CRISES IN CLIMATOLOGY

Guest essay by Donald C. Morton

Herzberg Program in Astronomy and Astrophysics, National Research Council of Canada

ABSTRACT

The Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change released in September 2013 continues the pattern of previous ones raising alarm about a warming earth due to anthropogenic greenhouse gases. This paper identifies six problems with this conclusion – the mismatch of the model predictions with the temperature observations, the assumption of positive feedback, possible solar effects, the use of a global temperature, chaos in climate, and the rejection of any skepticism.

THIS IS AN ASTROPHYSICIST’S VIEW OF CURRENT CLIMATOLOGY. I WELCOME CRITICAL COMMENTS.

1. INTRODUCTION

Many climatologists have been telling us that the environment of the earth is in serious danger of overheating caused by the human generation of greenhouse gases since the Industrial Revolution. Carbon dioxide (CO2) is mainly to blame, but methane (CH4), nitrous oxide (N2O) and certain chlorofluorocarbons also contribute.

“As expected, the main message is still the same: the evidence is very clear that the world is warming, and that human activities are the main cause. Natural changes and fluctuations do occur but they are relatively small.” – John Shepard in the United Kingdom, 2013 Sep 27 for the Royal Society.

“We can no longer ignore the facts: Global warming is unequivocal, it is caused by us and its consequences will be profound. But that doesn’t mean we can’t solve it.” -Andrew Weaver in Canada, 2013 Sep 28 in the Globe and Mail.

“We know without a doubt that gases we are adding to the air have caused a planetary energy imbalance and global warming, already 0.8 degrees Celsius since pre-industrial times. This warming is driving an increase in extreme weather from heat waves to droughts and wild fires and stronger storms . . .” – James Hansen in United States, 2013 Dec 6 CNN broadcast.

Are these views valid? In the past eminent scientists have been wrong. Lord Kelvin, unaware of nuclear fusion, concluded that the sun’s gravitational energy could keep it shining at its present brightness for only 107 years. Sir Arthur Eddington correctly suggested a nuclear source for the sun, but rejected Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar’s theory of degenerate matter to explain white dwarfs. In 1983 Chandrasekhar received the Nobel Prize in Physics for his insight.

My own expertise is in physics and astrophysics with experience in radiative transfer, not climatology, but looking at the discipline from outside I see some serious problems. I presume most climate scientists are aware of these inconsistencies, but they remain in the Reports of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), including the 5th one released on 2013 Sep 27. Politicians and government officials guiding public policy consult these reports and treat them as reliable.

2. THEORY, MODELS AND OBSERVATIONS

A necessary test of any theory or model is how well it predicts new experiments or observations not used in its development. It is not sufficient just to represent the data used to produce the theory or model, particularly in the case of climate models where many physical processes too complicated to code explicitly are represented by adjustable parameters. As John von Neumann once stated “With four parameters I can fit an elephant, and with five I can make him wiggle his trunk.” Four parameters will not produce all the details of an elephant, but the principle is clear. The models must have independent checks.

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Fig. 1. Global Average Temperature Anomaly (°C) upper, and CO2 concentration (ppm) lower graphs from http://www.climate.gov/maps-data by the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. The extension of the CO2 data to earlier years is from the ice core data of the Antarctic Law Dome ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/paleo/icecore/antarctica/law/law_co2.txt.

The upper plot in Fig. 1 shows how global temperatures have varied since 1880 with a decrease to 1910, a rise until 1945, a plateau to 1977, a rise of about 0.6 ºC until 1998 and then essentially constant for the next 16 years. Meanwhile, the concentration of CO2 in our atmosphere has steadily increased. Fig. 2 from the 5th Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (2013) shows that the observed temperatures follow the lower envelope of the predictions of the climate models.

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Fig. 2. Model Predictions and Temperature Observations from IPCC Report 2013. RCP 4.5 (Representative Concentration Pathway 4.5) labels a set of models for a modest rise in anthropogenic greenhouse gases corresponding to an increase of 4.5 Wm2 (1.3%) in total solar irradiance.

Already in 2009 climatologists worried about the change in slope of the temperature curve. At that time Knight et al. (2009) asked the rhetorical question “Do global temperature trends over the last decade falsify climate predictions?” Their response was “Near-zero and even negative trends are common for intervals of a decade or less in the simulations, due to the model’s internal climate variability. The simulations rule out (at the 95% level) zero trends for intervals of 15 yr or more, suggesting that an observed absence of warming of this duration is needed to create a discrepancy with the expected present-day warming rate.”

Now some climate scientists are saying that 16 years is too short a time to assess a change in climate, but then the rise from 1978 to 1998, which was attributed to anthropogenic CO2, also could be spurious. Other researchers are actively looking into phenomena omitted from the models to explain the discrepancy. These include

1) a strong natural South Pacific El Nino warming event in 1998 so the plateau did not begin until 2001,

2) an overestimate of the greenhouse effect in some models,

3) inadequate inclusion of clouds and other aerosols in the models, and

4) a deep ocean reservoir for the missing heat.

Extra warming due to the 1978 El Nino seems plausible, but there have been others that could have caused some of the earlier warming and there are also cooling La Nina events. All proposed causes of the plateau must have their effects on the warming also incorporated into the models to make predictions that then can be tested during the following decade or two of temperature evolution.

3. THE FEEDBACK PARAMETER

There is no controversy about the basic physics that adding CO2 to our atmosphere absorbs solar energy resulting in a little extra warming on top of the dominant effect of water vapor. The CO2 spectral absorption is saturated so is proportional to the logarithm of the concentration. The estimated effect accounts for only about half the temperature rise of 0.8 ºC since the Industrial Revolution. Without justification the model makers ignored possible natural causes and assumed the rise was caused primarily by anthropogenic CO2 with reflections by clouds and other aerosols approximately cancelling absorption by the other gases noted above. Consequently they postulated a positive feedback due to hotter air holding more water vapor, which increased the absorption of radiation and the backwarming. The computer simulations represented this process and many other effects by adjustable parameters chosen to match the observations. As stated on p. 9-9 of IPCC2013, “The complexity of each process representation is constrained by observations, computational resources, and current knowledge.” Models that did not show a temperature rise would have been omitted from any ensemble so the observed rise effectively determined the feedback parameter.

Now that the temperature has stopped increasing we see that this parameter is not valid. It even could be negative. CO2 absorption without the presumed feedback will still happen but its effect will not be alarming. The modest warming possibly could be a net benefit with increased crop production and fewer deaths due to cold weather.

4. THE SUN

The total solar irradiance, the flux integrated over all wavelengths, is a basic input to all climate models. Fortunately our sun is a stable star with minimal change in this output. Since the beginning of satellite measures of the whole spectrum in 1978 the variation has been about 0.1% over the 11-year activity cycle with occasional excursions up to 0.3%. The associated change in tropospheric temperature is about 0.1 ºC.

Larger variations could explain historical warm and cold intervals such as the Medieval Warm Period (approx. 950 – 1250) and the Little Ice Age (approx. 1430 – 1850) but remain as speculations. The sun is a ball of gas in hydrostatic equilibrium. Any reduction in the nuclear energy source initially would be compensated by a gravitational contraction on a time scale of a few minutes. Complicating this basic picture are the variable magnetic field and the mass motions that generate it. Li et al. (2003) included these effects in a simple model and found luminosity variations of 0.1%, consistent with the measurements.

However, the sun can influence the earth in many other ways that the IPCC Report does not consider, in part because the mechanisms are not well understood. The ultraviolet irradiance changes much more with solar activity, ~ 10% at 200 nm in the band that forms ozone in the stratosphere and between 5% and 2% in the ozone absorption bands between 240 and 320 nm according to DeLand & Cebula (2012). Their graphs also show that these fluxes during the most recent solar minimum were lower than the previous two reducing the formation of ozone in the stratosphere and its absorption of the near UV spectrum. How this absorption can couple into the lower atmosphere is under current investigation, e. g. Haigh et al. (2010).

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Fig. 3 – Monthly averages of the 10.7 cm solar radio flux measured by the National Research Council of Canada and adjusted to the mean earth-sun distance. A solar flux unit = 104 Jansky = 10-22 Wm-2 Hz-1. The maximum just past is unusually weak and the preceding minimum exceptionally broad. Graph courtesy of Dr. Ken Tapping of NRC.

Decreasing solar activity also lowers the strength of the heliosphere magnetic shield permitting more galactic cosmic rays to reach the earth. Experiments by Kirkby et al. (2011) and Svensmark et al. (2013) have shown that these cosmic rays can seed the formation of clouds, which then reflect more sunlight and reduce the temperature, though the magnitude of the effect remains uncertain. Morton (2014) has described how the abundances cosmogenic isotopes 10Be and 14C in ice cores and tree rings indicate past solar activity and its anticorrelation with temperature.

Of particular interest is the recent reduction in solar activity. Fig. 3 shows the 10.7 cm solar radio flux measured by the National Research Council of Canada since 1947 (Tapping 2013) and Fig. 4 the corresponding sunspot count. Careful calibration of the radio flux permits reliable comparisons

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Fig. 4. Monthly sunspot numbers for the past 60 years by the Royal Observatory of Belgium at http://sidc.oma.be/sunspot-index-graphics/sidc_graphics.php.

over six solar cycles even when there are no sunspots. The last minimum was unusually broad and the present maximum exceptionally weak. The sun has entered a phase of low activity. Fig. 5 shows that previous times of very low activity were the Dalton Minimum from about 1800 to 1820 and the Maunder Minimum from about 1645 to 1715 when very few spots were seen. Since

these minima occurred during the Little Ice Age when glaciers were advancing in both Northern and Southern Hemispheres, it is possible that we are entering another cooling period. Without a

physical understanding of the cause of such cool periods, we cannot be more specific. Temperatures as cold as the Little Ice Age may not happen, but there must be some cooling to compensate the heating that is present from the increasing CO2 absorption.

Regrettably the IPCC reports scarcely mention these solar effects and the uncertainties they add to any prediction.

5. THE AVERAGE GLOBAL TEMPERATURE

Long-term temperature measurements at a given location provide an obvious test of climate change. Such data exist for many places for more than a hundred years and for a few places for much longer. With these data climatologists calculate the temperature anomaly – the deviation from a many-year average such as 1961 to 1990, each day of the year at the times a measurement

is recorded. Then they average over days, nights, seasons, continents and oceans to obtain the mean global temperature anomaly for each month or year as in Fig. 1. Unfortunately many parts of the world are poorly sampled and the oceans, which cover 71% of the earth’s surface, even less so. Thus many measurements must be extrapolated to include larger areas with different

climates. Corrections are needed when a site’s measurements are interrupted or terminated or a new station is established as well as for urban heat if the meteorological station is in a city and altitude if the station is significantly higher than sea level.

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Fig. 5. This plot from the U. S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Agency shows sunspot numbers since their first observation with telescopes in 1610. Systematic counting began soon after the discovery of the 11-year cycle in 1843. Later searching of old records provided the earlier numbers.

The IPCC Reports refer to four sources of data for the temperature anomaly from the Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research and the European Centre for Medium-range Weather Forcasting in the United Kingdom and the Goddard Institute for Space Science and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration in the United States. For a given month they can differ by several tenths of a degree, but all show the same long-term trends of Fig. 1, a rise from 1978 to 1998 and a plateau from 1998 to the present.

These patterns continue to be a challenge for researchers to understand. Some climatologists like to put a straight line through all the data from 1978 to the present and conclude that the world is continuing to warm, just a little more slowly, but surely if these curves have any connection to reality, changes in slope mean something. Are they evidence of the chaotic nature of climate with abrupt shifts from one state to another?

Essex, McKitrick and Andresen (2007) and Essex and McKitrick (2007) in their popular book have criticized the use of these mean temperature data for the earth. First temperature is an intensive thermodynamic variable relevant to a particular location in equilibrium with the measuring device. Any average with other locations or times of day or seasons has no physical meaning. Other types of averages might be more appropriate such as the second, fourth or inverse power of the absolute temperature, each of which would give a different trend with time. Furthermore it is temperature differences between two places that drive the dynamics. Climatologists have not explained what this single number for global temperature actually means. Essex and McKitrick note that it “is not a temperature. Nor is it even a proper statistic or index. It is a sequence of different statistics grafted together with ad hoc models.”

This questionable use of a global temperature along with the problems of modeling a chaotic system discussed below raise basic concerns about the validity of the test with observations in Section 2. Since climatologists and the IPCC insist on using this temperature number and the models in their predictions of global warming, it still is appropriate to hold them to comparisons with the observations they consider relevant.

6. CHAOS

Essex and McKitrick (2007) have provided a helpful introduction to this problem. Thanks to the pioneering investigations into the equations for convection and the associated turbulence by meteorologist Edward Lorenz, scientists have come to realize that many dynamical systems are fundamentally chaotic. The situation often is described as the butterfly effect because a small change in initial conditions such as the flap of a butterfly wing can have large effects in later results.

Convection and turbulence in the air are central phenomenon in determining weather and so must have their effect on climate too. The IPCC on p. 1-25 of the 2013 Report recognizes this with the statement “There are fundamental limits to just how precisely annual temperatures can be projected, because of the chaotic nature of the climate system.” but then makes predictions with confidence. Meteorologists modeling weather find that their predictions become unstable after a week or two, and they have the advantage of refining their models by comparing predictions with observations.

Why do the climate models in the IPCC reports not show these instabilities? Have they been selectively tuned to avoid them or are the chaotic physical processes not properly included? Why should we think that long-term climate predictions are possible when they are not for weather?

7. THE APPEAL TO CONSENSUS AND THE SILENCING OF SKEPTICISM

Frequently we hear that we must accept that the earth is warming at an alarming rate due to anthropogenic CO2 because 90+% climatologists believe it. However, science is not a consensus discipline. It depends on skeptics questioning every hypothesis, every theory and every model until all rational challenges are satisfied. Any endeavor that must prove itself by appealing to consensus or demeaning skeptics is not science. Why do some proponents of climate alarm dismiss critics by implying they are like Holocaust deniers? Presumably most climatologists disapprove of these unscientific tactics, but too few speak out against them.

8. SUMMARY AND CONCLUSIONS

At least six serious problems confront the climate predictions presented in the last IPCC Report. The models do not predict the observed temperature plateau since 1998, the models adopted a feedback parameter based on the unjustified assumption that the warming prior to 1998 was primarily caused by anthopogenic CO2, the IPCC ignored possible affects of reduced solar activity during the past decade, the temperature anomaly has no physical significance, the models attempt to predict the future of a chaotic system, and there is an appeal to consensus to establish climate science.

Temperatures could start to rise again as we continue to add CO2 to the atmosphere or they could fall as suggested by the present weak solar activity. Many climatologists are trying to address the issues described here to give us a better understanding of the physical processes involved and the reliability of the predictions. One outstanding issue is the location of all the anthropogenic CO2. According to Table 6.1 in the 2013 Report, half goes into the atmosphere and a quarter into the oceans with the remaining quarter assigned to some undefined sequestering as biomass on the land.

Meanwhile what policies should a responsible citizen be advocating? We risk serious consequences from either a major change in climate or an economic recession from efforts to reduce the CO2 output. My personal view is to use this temperature plateau as a time to reassess all the relevant issues. Are there other environmental effects that are equally or more important than global warming? Are some policies like subsidizing biofuels counterproductive? Are large farms of windmills, solar cells or collecting mirrors effective investments when we are unable to store energy? How reliable is the claim that extreme weather events are more frequent because of the global warming? Is it time to admit that we do not understand climate well enough to know how to direct it?

References

 

DeLand, M. T., & Cebula, R. P. (2012) Solar UV variations during the decline of Cycle 23. J. Atmosph. Solar-Terrestr. Phys., 77, 225.

Essex, C., & McKitrick, R. (2007) Taken by storm: the troubled science, policy and politics of global warming, Key Porter Books. Rev. ed. Toronto, ON, Canada.

Essex, C., McKitrick, R., & Andresen, B. (2007) Does a Global temperature Exist? J. Non-Equilib. Thermodyn. 32, 1.

Haigh. J. D., et al. (2010). An influence of solar spectral variations on radiative forcing of climate. Nature 467, 696.

IPCC (2013), Climate Change 2013: The Physicsal Science Basis. Contribution of Working Group I to the Fifth Assessment Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, http://www.ipcc.ch

Li, L. H., Basu, S., Sofia, S., Robinson, F.J., Demarque, P., & Guenther, D.B. (2003). Global

parameter and helioseismic tests of solar variability models. Astrophys. J., 591, 1284.

Kirkby, J. et al. (2011). Role of sulphuric acid, ammonia and galactic cosmic rays in atmospheric

aerosol nucleation. Nature, 476, 429.

Knight, J., et al. (2009). Bull. Amer. Meteor. Soc., 90 (8), Special Suppl. pp. S22, S23.

Morton, D. C. (2014). An Astronomer’s view of Climate Change. J. Roy. Astron. Soc. Canada, 108, 27. http://arXiv.org/abs/1401.8235.

Svensmark, H., Enghoff, M.B., & Pedersen, J.O.P. (2013). Response of cloud condensation nuclei (> 50 nm) to changes in ion-nucleation. Phys. Lett. A, 377, 2343.

Tapping, K.F. (2013). The 10.7 cm radio flux (F10.7). Space Weather, 11, 394.

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Ian W
February 17, 2014 4:15 pm

There is no controversy about the basic physics that adding CO2 to our atmosphere absorbs solar energy resulting in a little extra warming on top of the dominant effect of water vapor.
There isn’t but there is a blind spot that only a few point out.
Nitrogen and oxygen are non-radiative gases. An atmosphere made up of only these two gases would not radiate much if any heat at all until extreme temperatures. Add a radiative gas CO2 to the mix and the heat in the atmosphere will be radiated as infrared as the CO2 gains sensible heat from the non-radiative gases by collision and then radiates that heat. Therefore, adding CO2 to the atmosphere cools the atmosphere. This aspect is not shown in any of the Mickey Mouse diagrams preferred by the climate ‘scientists’ as it would remove much of the effect of absorption of infrared radiated from the surface. It is probably because of this effect that in previous epochs when the CO2 levels were many times higher than they are now that the atmospheric temperatures did not become extreme. Like atmospheric enthalpy, the radiative effects of CO2 are being deliberately ignored and only the absorption used in the models.

Chad Wozniak
February 17, 2014 4:19 pm


Yes, belief – or perhaps better characterized, dogma – is all they have left. But belief of the wrong sort can do horrific things, as the Nazi and Stalinist and Maoist Holocausts so plainly demonstrated.
And now we have the so-called “science” adviser to another ruthless dictator calling for the elimination of 6 billion people, “to save the planet”. Where is this leading? Does our government want to be the world champion of genocide? There are certainly enough of its adherents and sycophants and lapdogs that would seem to want it to be.

Gail Combs
February 17, 2014 4:25 pm

Allan M.R. MacRae says: February 17, 2014 at 9:11 am
AMEN! you hit a very major point. It is the oceans that rule CO2 and not the other way round.

Gail Combs
February 17, 2014 4:29 pm

Jeff L says: February 17, 2014 at 9:21 am
…Does anyone know if a water vapor data set exists? & if so a link to it online ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
See my comment: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/02/17/crises-in-climatology/#comment-1570584

Gail Combs
February 17, 2014 4:38 pm

R. de Haan says: February 17, 2014 at 9:35 am
….We have an integrity crisis in politics.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
And an integrity crisis in science.
Despite the fact I am a chemist I would like to see ALL public funding of science and universities yanked. We tax payers can no longer afford the price tag especially when a cow produces more useful material out of her back end when compared to the idiots and other dreck coming out of universities.

For 10 years, William Schmidt, a statistics professor at Michigan State University, has looked at how U.S. students stack up against students in other countries in math and science. “In fourth-grade, we start out pretty well, near the top of the distribution among countries; by eighth-grade, we’re around average, and by 12th-grade, we’re at the bottom of the heap, outperforming only two countries, Cyprus and South Africa.”
Source

… Surveys of corporations consistently find that businesses are focused outside • the U.S. to recruit necessary talent. … One respondent to the survey even noted, “If I wanted to recruit people who are both technically skilled and culturally aware, I wouldn’t even waste time looking for them on U.S. college campuses.”
Source

Gail Combs
February 17, 2014 4:44 pm

Lance Wallace says:
February 17, 2014 at 9:45 am
…The remaining problem then is to find a mechanism in the real atmosphere where the sulfuric acid can be replenished….
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Volcanoes
http://volcanoes.usgs.gov/hazards/gas/
http://www.mitosyfraudes.org/Ingles/Cloro.html

Gail Combs
February 17, 2014 4:52 pm
February 17, 2014 4:58 pm

Thanks, Donald. Very broad article with good detail.

February 17, 2014 5:05 pm

Gail Combs says on February 17, 2014 at 4:25 pm
Allan M.R. MacRae says: February 17, 2014 at 9:11 am
AMEN! you hit a very major point. It is the oceans that rule CO2 and not the other way round.
Allan Says:
Thank you Gail.
I suggest that even more than the oceans it is the land masses, dominated by the larger Northern Hemisphere land masses, that rule atmospheric CO2.
Please examine the beautiful 15fps AIRS data animation of global CO2 at
http://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/vis/a000000/a003500/a003562/carbonDioxideSequence2002_2008_at15fps.mp4
It is difficult to see the impact of humanity in this impressive display of nature’s power.
In the animation, does anyone see the impact of industrialization? USA? Europe? India? China? Anything related to humanity? I don’t.
I do see evidence of natural seasonal fluxes on land, and also evidence of deep ocean currents.
The animation does make it look like we Canadians and the Russians have lots of heavy industry emitting megatonnes of CO2 in the far northern Arctic. Not so.
This is no proof, but it appears that atmospheric CO2 flux and CO2 concentration have significant natural drivers. This does out rule out a humanmade component to the observed CO2 increase due to fossil fuel combustion, deforestation, etc.
But remember good people, CO2 lags temperature at all measured time scales.
Regards, Allan

Gail Combs
February 17, 2014 5:05 pm

asybot says: February 17, 2014 at 11:17 am
Herkimer 8.52
Re: your observations that the last 10 years have seen a return to what was happening during the 70′s
….
As a farmer since the early 70′s. I could not agree more….
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Since the Government is starting up these Regional Climate Hubs, we as farmers should get our other farmer friends to individually go to these hubs and ask them for more winter hardy plants/animals since the climate is OBVIOUSLY getting colder.
I have plans to go to The Southeast Regional Climate Hub and ask them where I can get some good winter hardy, parasite resistant cashmere bucks for my goat herd and some good winter hardy, parasite resistant wool sheep to cross with my blackbelly barbadoes ewes.
I can not wait to see them sputtering.

February 17, 2014 5:07 pm

Ian W says:
February 17, 2014 at 4:15 pm
There is no controversy about the basic physics that adding CO2 to our atmosphere absorbs solar energy resulting in a little extra warming on top of the dominant effect of water vapor.
There isn’t but there is a blind spot that only a few point out.
Nitrogen and oxygen are non-radiative gases. An atmosphere made up of only these two gases would not radiate much if any heat at all until extreme temperatures. Add a radiative gas CO2 to the mix and the heat in the atmosphere will be radiated as infrared as the CO2 gains sensible heat from the non-radiative gases by collision and then radiates that heat. Therefore, adding CO2 to the atmosphere cools the atmosphere. This aspect is not shown in any of the Mickey Mouse diagrams preferred by the climate ‘scientists’ as it would remove much of the effect of absorption of infrared radiated from the surface.

Actually it’s in just about every one I’ve ever seen! You appear to misunderstand the physics of the process though.
Including this one for instance:
http://www.goes-r.gov/users/comet/volcanic_ash/impacts/media/graphics/global_energy_flows.jpg

4TimesAYear
February 17, 2014 5:16 pm

I very much admire Essex and McKitrick for their stance on the “global temperature” – I found the term somewhat maddening when our local reporters used it. I knew there could be no such animal. I’ve noticed alarmists have taken to saying “global average temperatures” (plural) now, which is just as mystifying to me. Exactly which “global average temperatures” are they referring to? Like its predecessors “global climate change” and “global climate disruption”, it begs the question “What do you mean when you say that?”

Gail Combs
February 17, 2014 5:18 pm

Dr Morton,
Thank you for writing a level headed, simple article that lays out the problems of CAGW without getting too lengthy or getting into very controversial areas.
Well done!

drumphil
February 17, 2014 5:54 pm

2kevin said:

So now I should be thanking you for your freely given information that was bookended in snark and implications of false motivation? Wow. As for false flag trolling that would require that you once againg could divine intent. Telling you clearly why I was asking what I asked is apparently a form of feeling victimized now. So really you’re just rationalizing your behaviour because, again, you think you you know intent and with that knowledge comes justification of action. Attitudes like that are certainly not going to make for any more converts. So much for civil discourse.”
Nah. You have it wrong. It’s your fault that richardscourtney carries on like he does. And mine, if he is talking to me.. and anyone else he feels like lashing out at. He isn’t responsible for his actions. What he does is fine and well justified because anyone who says anything he doesn’t like is just a sniveling troll like us.
Brilliant how that works eh?

Robin.W
February 17, 2014 6:16 pm

An earlier comment said..”The reality is that the IPCC was set up by Maurice Strong to find a way of demonizing Co2 for his own dubious political ends and that is why we get harangued morning noon and night about climate change.”
Yes, Agenda 21 is driving this CAGW stuff. That’s the heart of the issue but no one wants to go there it seems. If ordinary folks new about it they might be more informed and therefore more skeptical. Most people have never heard of Agenda 21, it’s about time they did.
Anthony you could assist in this please.

drumphil
February 17, 2014 6:17 pm

In Richards defense, he has only recently stopped finding reds under his bed, so he tendency to assume malicious intent is actually grounded in long experience…

February 17, 2014 6:21 pm

Good essay Dr. Morton.
The answer to your first question “Are these views valid?” depends upon whether one is capable of analyzing signal strength relative to background.
What sort of climate should one expect at an already half-precession old interglacial? The answer to that is derived from examination of the many lines of evidence accumulating as to what the ends of the other most recent interglacials have been like. The worst case predication of AGW from the IPCC would appear to be a few degrees C and less than 1 meter of sea level rise by 2099. The Eemian, the interglacial which precedes this one, the Holocene, experienced a minimum of two strong thermal pulses right at its very end. Estimates of the sea level stillstands and final highstand come in from +6 to +52 meters above today’s means sea level.
The highstand during the closing stages of MIS-11 (the Holsteinian) reached +21.3 meters amsl. If an anthropogenic signal of ~1 meter is to be considered anomalous for such a perilous time as a half-precession old interglacial, then we have new science that has turned all previous science upside down, such that the number 1 now represents a larger quantity than say the numbers +6, +21.3 and +52, at the very least.
Perhaps a few questions are in order here:
1. Is it possible or even likely that the Holocene will actually never end?
2. Aside from Loutre and Berger’s 2003 astronomical model, which was soundly trounced by Lisiecki and Raymo’s 2005 rebuttal, there has only been one well-accepted means of preventing glacial inception discussed in the literature: greenhouse gases. This, of course, is not how it is meant to be discussed in the “new science.” Can anyone suggest another means of delaying or preventing glacial inception except GHGs?
3. But perhaps the most important question of all might be should we attempt to delay or prevent onset of the next glacial? Would a ~90,000 year long glacial (aka ice age) be just what the doctor ordered for at least (as reported today) say 42% of the US population?

Konrad
February 17, 2014 6:22 pm

“There is no controversy about the basic physics that adding CO2 to our atmosphere absorbs solar energy resulting in a little extra warming on top of the dominant effect of water vapor”
Amatør1 says:
February 17, 2014 at 9:10 am
Allan M.R. MacRae says:
February 17, 2014 at 9:11 am
Pat Frank says:
February 17, 2014 at 9:22 am
HenryP says:
February 17, 2014 at 11:10 am
Alex Hamilton says:
February 17, 2014 at 3:19 pm
Ian W says:
February 17, 2014 at 4:15 pm
It is good to see so many prepared to challenge. Donald C. Morton has indicated he is happy to accept critical comments. I am more than happy to challenge the above statement on the basis of empirical experiment.
Climate scientists have made the mistake of applying Stefan Boltzmann calculations to moving fluids in a gravity field and to transparent materials. This leads to two false conclusions –
1. That the oceans would freeze in the absence of radiative gases.
2. That adding radiative gases to the atmosphere will reduce the atmospheres radiative cooling ability.
There is a radiative greenhouse effect on earth, but not a NET radiative greenhouse effect. In claiming a net radiative greenhouse effect, climate scientists have calculated that the oceans would freeze in the absence of radiative gases and the surface would have an average temperature of -18C. This claim is false. If our oceans could be retained in the absence of an atmosphere, SW from the sun would drive them to near 80C. This means that the net effect of the atmosphere over the oceans is cooling. And the atmosphere has only one effective cooling mechanism – radiative gases.

Soren F
February 17, 2014 6:25 pm

I welcome here in particular the article Morton 2014 in that it not only presents solar-climatic coupling using the relevant proxies and time-scales – the work of Holocene geology – but also does so in the additional context of this coupling being deliberately disregarded by IPCC assessments and climate simulation, and furthermore, all on top of the astronomy.
It thus stays out of the other modeling-centered center stage, looking more like an informed skeptic-side’s proper focus and what I’ve been expecting from a candidate for its called-for main ‘killer’ reference.

Chad Wozniak
February 17, 2014 6:43 pm

Thank you, Gail Combs, for your very cogent and hard-hitting commentary.

Gail Combs
February 17, 2014 7:23 pm

Robin.W says: February 17, 2014 at 6:16 pm
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Agenda 21/Sustainability gets brought up quite frequently by me and others.

Gail Combs
February 17, 2014 7:29 pm

drumphil says: February 17, 2014 at 6:17 pm
In Richards defense, he has only recently stopped finding reds under his bed…
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Nah, they aren’t under his bed. Some are in the US government but most are at US newspapers. {:>)
I am reading:
http://www.amazon.com/Spies-The-Rise-Fall-America/dp/0300164386

Gail Combs
February 17, 2014 7:33 pm

William McClenney says: February 17, 2014 at 6:21 pm …
William, I do not know if anyone else here appreciates your wit, but you have me ROTFLMAO with that last zinger.

Gail Combs
February 17, 2014 7:41 pm

Konrad says:.
…..And the atmosphere has only one effective cooling mechanism – radiative gases.
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I am no physicist but a very effective cooling mechanism is evaporation of water and the rise of that water vapor to significant heights where the energy is released as the water vapor condensed into water droplets aka clouds. (Willis’s Thermostat Theory) There is also convection where warm air rises and we get all the various circulation cells that drive our weather.
In other words radiative gases play a minor role.

Greig
February 17, 2014 8:19 pm

Hi Don,
The knaves over at HotWhopper are “twisting the truth you have spoken”, here. Whilst you say critical comments are welcome, deliberate misinterpretation perhaps deserves to be challenged.

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