Paging Lord Deben
I had debated with myself a couple of days as to whether or not to cover this particular bit of ugliness, after it first being brought to my attention by Bishop Hill. But then, Lord Deben of the UK made this observation:
I challenge Lord Deben to find examples of climate skeptics doing anything remotely close to this sort of ugliness that is much like of the tactics of the Klu Klux Klan – showing up at somebody’s house with mask covered faces, torches, and a threat:
Source:
‘The People’ Confront Enbridge Executive In Solidarity With MI CATS 3
http://www.tarsandsblockade.org/enbridge-home-demo/
(update: their website is no longer serving that page, so here it is as a PDF Tar Sands Blockade – Enbridge )
One of these days, they’ll show up at the wrong house, like their comrades did with the wrong petrol station, and the person inside won’t be as tolerant as Mr. Maki was, and that won’t be pretty:
In case Lord Deben doesn’t know, this “tar sands blockade” is an organization that is part of Bill McKibben’s 350.org and their mission to stop Keystone XL due to their concerns about the supposed effect on the climate.
(Update: Amazingly, McKibben supported this action, see screencap below)
And, perhaps Lord Deben doesn’t recall this example of ugliness from like minded people in the UK on climate, who decided that blowing up school children would be a great way to get the message of climate obedience and compliance across:
It was so bad, 10:10 tried to disappear it, but they were unsuccessful.
And, maybe Lord Deben hasn’t seen this:
Lefty Feud Over Keystone Worsens, Ed Schultz Telling Enviros to ‘Go to Hell’
It seems even the left leaning media is realizing the KXL people are going off the rails.
I challenge Lord Deben to find similar examples from climate skeptics. I’ll even given you a guest essay here to highlight it if you like.
Reference:
‘your journey towards the dark side will be complete’ with apologies to “Emperor Palpatine”
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Dave in Canmore says:
February 9, 2014 at 11:57 am
“Gareth Phillips gets paid for his opinions?
http://www.sindicatum.com/author/gareth-phillips/
Gareth can you confirm if this is you?
PS it won’t lower my assement of the quality of your observations.”
Nice find! It will lower my assessment of everything he says; as he seems to be a corporate shill for the climate change corruptocracy.
richardscourtney says:
February 9, 2014 at 11:30 am
“Gareth Phillips
Indeed, I think it likely that the response you say you obtain is universal when people discover you are a shill employed to spread disinformation and propaganda on behalf of the Carbon Trading industry. People may want to see this link which – by the way – has a nice photo of you
http://www.sindicatum.com/author/gareth-phillips/
Richard”
Ouch! That’s gonna leave a mark.
Lord Deben obviously has not been at the climate thing long enough. Just go to the Guardian and place a dissenting comment and you will have all kinds of abuse, innuendo and general unpleasantness hurled at you.
I could name you a number of cold blooded murderers and terrorists who are convinced for the case to ‘take action’ on climate.
Now who is Lord Deben? He was one of the ministers under Margaret Thatcher also known as John Selwyn Gummer. In 1990 he was the then agricultural minister during the ‘Mad Cow Disease‘ scare in the UK. To show his confidence in British beef he gave his 4 year old daughter a beef burger which she ate in front of the cameras. Eight years later 32 people had died of CJD, the human form of BSE. A daughter of a friend of Lord Deben died of CJD in 2007.
Lord Deben is not someone whose judgment is good.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/369625.stm
Isn’t Lord Deben living proof of why the ordinary people wrote the Constitution and formed the United States?
Dave in Canmore says:
February 9, 2014 at 11:57 am
Gareth Phillips gets paid for his opinions?
http://www.sindicatum.com/author/gareth-phillips/
Gareth can you confirm if this is you?
PS it won’t lower my assement of the quality of your observations.
Hullo Dave and thanks. No, it is not me, though it could be seen as a compliment to have his looks!. I do lobby politicians on a regular basis and sit on select committees when required, however my brief is with regard to health, particularly Mental health and Oncology (or Cancer care) It is not my main role, but comes as part of the package of my main activity. Not so exciting, but good old motormouth is convinced the EU chap is me so nothing I can say is likely to convince him otherwise. Cheers G
Sorry got it wrong. It’s the “Klimate Khange Klan”
“Its the CCC, the Climate Change Clan” (Feb 7, 2014 at 10:21 PM | Unregistered Commenterc777)
No it’s not. Make no mistake, it’s a masked KKK once again, this time the ‘Klimate Khange Klan’.
Ugly, sad, reprehensible, destructive, cowardly and distressing. The antithesis of civilised society.
The sole province of the weak and curiously desperate.
Feb 8, 2014 at 8:00 AM | Unregistered CommenterManfred
ed mister jones says:
February 9, 2014 at 12:07 pm
richardscourtney says:
February 9, 2014 at 11:30 am
“Gareth Phillips
Indeed, I think it likely that the response you say you obtain is universal when people discover you are a shill employed to spread disinformation and propaganda on behalf of the Carbon Trading industry. People may want to see this link which – by the way – has a nice photo of you
http://www.sindicatum.com/author/gareth-phillips/
Richard”
Ouch! That’s gonna leave a mark.
@Garethman
It certainly would have Ed if there were any truth in it, but I’m afraid old Motormouth has only a hazy view of reality sometimes.
REPLY: After checking, this particular Gareth Phillips lives far away in Wales, too far for a daily commute to the Sindicatum office in London – anthony
Lord Deben of the UK seems to be doing a bit of projection. It is the “CO2 is a poison” side that changes the historical record (“adjusts” the past) as in 1984, refuses to meet in open and fair debate, seeks to silence people through intimidation, calls others “deniers” as if they denied the WWII Holocaust, accuses skeptics of seeking to destroy the world, and continually goes to personal attack rather than cite honest data.
I have yet to meet a catastrophic anthropogenic global warming fanatic that does not use ad hominem as his first line of debate. (preferred even over dishonest statistical manipulation)
I say let the Lord clean his own house before talking about the housekeeping of others.
Gareth Phillips says:
February 9, 2014 at 11:23 am
….. “I suspect a persons attitude on a given subject owes more to their own personality than the subject in hand, and such people tend to express unresolved anger through the medium of the debate. ” …..
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Your closing and final words on a previous post on WUWT Friday, Feb 7 was quote: ….” See you next Tuesday.” It was related to your use of metaphors. Are you a couple of days early or did it reflect an expression of unresolved anger?
Google search: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=See-you-next-Tuesday
See You Next Tuesday
A clandestine method of calling someone a cunt.
Particularly effective when used prior to a three day week end.
C: See
U: You
N: Next
T: Tuesday
Perhaps you really meant to return to that thread in a couple more days, maybe.
I haven’t met a person who is in a postition to naysay climate, so I can only assume “naysayer” is a pejorative directed at the likes of me. It’s odd that Lord Deben can’t refrain from a term of abuse even in this context. Cloaking his insult in prissiness and whining does not make it less of an insult.
This is a mind-boggling example of the extent to which climate change extremists will sink for their cause while unjustly accusing skeptics.at the same time.
To this day I cannot fathom what 10:10 were thinking. What was the message? Be deathly afraid of environmentalists?
Gareth Phillips:
re your post at February 9, 2014 at 12:08 pm.
Firstly, I was not the discoverer of your identity. That was Randle Dewees in the ‘Black Swan’ thread and his post is here here.
Subsequently in that thread several people have commented on your being an employed shill while you have made a number of posts in that thread and not rebutted it not even with a PS to one of your posts on that thread.
Secondly, in this thread you have claimed in the post I am answering that it is not you.
Perhaps you would be willing
(a) to explain why you did not correct Randle Dewees despite all the comments on that thread which mentioned the information?
and
(b) to explain why anybody should believe your rebuttal in this thread given the documented falsehoods you have posted on two recent WUWT threads?
Richard
Being attacked by John Selwyn Gummer is like being mauled by a dead sheep.
I did have a chuckle when I saw Debben’s comment. How he starts off with a silly bit of name-calling (Climate “naysayers”, no less) then accuses his targets of resorting to “abuse and innuendo.” Priceless irony! Thanks for the laugh, Debs!
Now let’s look at Lord Debens financial interests.
According to the UK Parliament’s Register of Interests Lord Deben has shareholdings in a sustainable home building firm called Zero C Ltd.
He is also the Chairman of the Committee on Climate Change. Here is what they say they do.
According to the UK Parliament’s Register of Interests (above) he also has shareholdings in Valpak Limited. What does Valpak do? According to Valpak’s website they are a
There is absolutely no suggestion at all that the committee might advise government to initiate legislation or impose regulations that might benefit sustainable home builders or co2 reduction compliance companies.
That is Lord Deben.
Video: Who’s the parasite? Amazing restraint by Mr. Maki. Loved the comment: “How did you get here?” Perhaps Bill drove them over …
eyesonu says:
February 9, 2014 at 12:18 pm
Hi Eyesonu, thanks for the explanation. New one on me, but very enlightening, I will note that for future reference. Sadly many people are conflating my identity with some other chap employed by the EU. This looks to be more of the same. I’m beginning to feel like an international man of mystery! Maybe a look at the thread leading up to that comment may shed some light on the subject ? I am also in an important meeting a few hundred miles away on Tuesday so I doubt I will have time to blog, but I will try though it’s likely to be late. In the meantime I shall try and refrain from calling you next thursday or discussing climate yearly national trends. Cheers G
‘Lord’ Deben and the truth – are never closely associated, e.g.:
http://youtu.be/YSwulZAvKyA
The alarmists have failed on global warming debate because their terms are never clear what they are on about. I come to terms that they always use a straw-man argument. Again what does the heck, “climate naysayers” mean? Not surprisingly they always get mixed up with the behavior of people supporting their view, compared to other people with skeptical one.
glenndc says:
February 9, 2014 at 11:44 am
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Did you ever watch “All in the Family”? Archie Bunker often would express a conservative view of the times but the liberal writers would give him a stupid reason for holding it. (I’m using “liberal” and “conservative” in the context of the US. This is an international blog and often those words hold different connotations outside of the US.)
Alarmist blogs might edit out the reasoned comments and leave the “stupid” behind.
http://bestmomstv.com/files/2013/03/Tongue-stuck-to-pole-girl-150×150.jpg
Stuck on Stupid.
I run into this on every Blog especially Greenfry or I manage to get setting printed. Let the dumb mules freeze to death.
Seldom Glummer only debates with people of the same mind. He hates the little and finds anyone who doesn’t follow his advice annoying. From direct experience.
Gareth Ph1ll1ps:
It seems you have overlooked my post at February 9, 2014 at 12:23 pm which is here.
This is understandable because my post was held in moderat1on for a few minutes.
However, now I have drawn it to your attention I feel sure that you will want to answer my questions both here and on the continuing ‘Black Swan’ thread.
Richard
Lord Deben’s hypocritical remarks are no different than racism. He lumps “the climate naysayers” together and calls them “so personally unpleasant”.
Lord Deben has not met all the climate naysayers. At most he has met a small sample, so his remarks show prejudice. He is judging all members of the group to be the same, having never met the majority of the group. This is racism.
Then, to top it all off, he labels the group and with derogatory labels. Which clearly establishes that he is personally unpleasant. So we have a case of the pot calling the kettle black. A hypocrite dressed in Lord clothing.