Some people say you shouldn’t poke a bear with a stick, for obvious reasons.
I’ll say one thing for Mr. Steyn, he never gives up poking the ‘MannBearPig’, even when being sued. Steyn writes on his web page today:
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Which brings us to Michael Mann, the fake Nobel laureate currently suing NATIONAL REVIEW for mocking his global-warming “hockey stick.” Of the recent congressional hearings, Dr. Mann tweeted that it was “#Science” — i.e., the guy who agrees with him — vs. “#AntiScience” — i.e., Dr. Judith Curry, chair of the School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at the Georgia Institute of Technology. That’s to say, she is by profession a scientist, but because she has the impertinence to dissent from Dr. Mann’s view she is “#AntiScience.” Mann is the climatological equivalent of those bozo imams on al-Arabiya raging about infidel whores: He can’t refute Dr. Curry, he can only label her.
He explains his aversion to appearing with anyone other than fawning groupies thus: “Getting on a debate stage signals that, while you might disagree, you respect the position of your opponent. #WhyWeDontDebateScienceDeniers.” But the reality is that he’s too insecure and dull-witted to argue. That’s why he’s suing me over a pun (“tree-ring circus”), why he threatened legal action in Minnesota over a song parody, and why he’s in court in Vancouver objecting to a bit of wordplay. “You can’t say that!” is the refrain of those who can’t hold their own. Michael Mann is seeking massive damages from me and this magazine. Nuts to that. But I would be willing to buy him a course in debating technique — because in free societies that’s how you win. I’d also like to buy the wee thin-skinned chap a sense of humor, but I don’t think there’s a course for that.
~You can help Mark defend himself against Dr Mann’s lawsuit by supporting the SteynOnline bookstore and by purchasing our new Steyn gift certificates.
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Source: http://www.steynonline.com/6079/yes-we-can-say-that
Readers might want to read what Dr. Curry has to say about all of this in her essay:
JC challenge to MM: Since you have publicly accused my Congressional testimony of being ‘anti-science,’ I expect you to (publicly) document and rebut any statement in my testimony that is factually inaccurate or where my conclusions are not supported by the evidence that I provide.
He has not responded to my challenge, other than to retweet some rather dubious blog posts.
See: http://judithcurry.com/2014/01/26/mann-versus-steyn/
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Don’t confuse bear with pig.
most pigs need to be poked.
““Getting on a debate stage signals that, while you might disagree, you respect the position of your opponent….”
And, since he doesn’t respect the position of anyone who disagrees with him, he won’t debate anyone.
Seems like perfect logic to me.
Using that same logic however, would mean that there isn’t anyone who would agree to debate Mann, would it not?
Although I do feel that using the phrase “tree-ring circus” to describe Mann’s shenanigans unfairly denigrates circuses everywhere.
🙂
The main source of ridicule of M.E. Mann is M.E. Mann .
He should sue himself that shut the f. up.
How someone who plays a main part in party political election broadcasts can claim to be a “reluctant” public figure is laughable.
Unless the court circuit finds an even more incompetant judge that judge Green who couldn’t even work out which party is which, I’d say he’s in for a rough ride.
‘How someone who plays a main part in party political election broadcasts can claim to be a “reluctant” public figure is laughable.’
Yep. I’m reminded of a headline here this weekend: “Corby family pleads for privacy.”
Perhaps Dr. Curry should sue the Mannpig for defamation of character.
A pity one cannot just send a contribution through PayPal.
Michael Mann is bitter because a statistician and an economist found ‘errors’ in what some might consider to be ‘Hokey‘ stick work works of fiction.
“Perhaps Dr. Curry should sue the Mannpig for defamation of character.”
She has actually declined to do just that.
“Many people have urged me to sue Mann; I can’t be bothered and I don’t have money to throw away on such stuff (The National Review has spent a half million already on this case?). Further, I would like to stand up for Michael Mann’s right to make insulting and defamatory tweets, statements in op-eds, etc. As an American, I am pretty attached to the right to free speech.”
Read this in full:
http://judithcurry.com/2014/01/26/mann-versus-steyn/#more-14467
“Mike’s Nature trick” tm , where he deliberately truncated data that was inconvenient from Briffa’s proxy record should seriously be examined as scientific fraud.
Getting the Tiljander proxy the wrong way up could be incompetence, if one were inclined to be kind. That such a degree of incompetence from someone who (less than reluctantly) chooses to be a key player for “the cause” should be the source of ridicule seems quite reasonable.
He is still trying to use his Machiavellian tactics to silence anyone who has the temerity to question his rotund porky person.
Pulling strings behind the screens and trying to orchestrate the dismissal of journal editors and professional scientists is probably the sort of game where you can just back off if there’s some blow-back.
He may find giving evidence under oath, with a closed door behind him less appealing.
““Perhaps Dr. Curry should sue the Mannpig for defamation of character.”
She has actually declined to do just that.”
Too bad, but it shows in glowing terms that Dr. Curry is a scientist with integrity where the Mannpig is anything but.
The other photo on the WP page looks more like Mickey.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Dog_The_Teddy_Bear.jpg
Or maybe these trough feeders:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pigs_July_2008-1.jpg
Reblogged this on Sierra Foothill Commentary and commented:
We are big fans of Mark Steyn and support his views on climate change and his challenge to Michael Mann and the fake “hockey stick.”
This is worth a listen: http://www.econtalk.org/archives/2013/12/judith_curry_on.html
“Judith Curry of the Georgia Institute of Technology and blogger at Climate Etc. talks with EconTalk host Russ Roberts about climate change. Curry argues that climate change is a “wicked problem” with a great deal of uncertainty surrounding the expected damage as well as the political and technical challenges of dealing with the phenomenon. She emphasizes the complexity of the climate and how much of the basic science remains incomplete. The conversation closes with a discussion of how concerned citizens can improve their understanding of climate change and climate change policy.”
Smart woman!
Actually as a non-American who believes in freedom of speech, I do not support the right to make defamatory statements. Defamation (the accusation of a crime committed without evidence) is a criminal offence and should remain so, otherwise freedom of speech will be destroyed by deliberate and malicious lies
As far as Dr Mann goes, this just another piece of evidence to his egotism and arrogance when faced with rational debate. If I were his lawyer, I’d fight tooth and nail to prevent him from taking the stand, because Mann will have nowhere to hide.
Science is serene, man is bereaved.
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John A says:
February 8, 2014 at 7:15 am
Actually as a non-American who believes in freedom of speech, I do not support the right to make defamatory statements. Defamation (the accusation of a crime committed without evidence) is a criminal offence and should remain so, otherwise freedom of speech will be destroyed by deliberate and malicious lies
As far as Dr Mann goes, this just another piece of evidence to his egotism and arrogance when faced with rational debate. If I were his lawyer, I’d fight tooth and nail to prevent him from taking the stand, because Mann will have nowhere to hide.
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At least in the United States, defamation IS NOT a crime. neither is libel, or slander. sorry.
The impunity this Mann behaves suggests his handlers are powerful.
Anthony have you ever looked at getting some Bit Coin addresses for the various good causes you point to.
REPLY: No, I consider BitCoin useless – Anthony
John Peter says:
February 8, 2014 at 6:44 am
A pity one cannot just send a contribution through PayPal.
I agree. Use the collective heat of realists to slay the MannQueerThug. NR where do we contribute?
“Dr. Curtry” ???????????
Be careful about getting into a pissing contest with a skunk.
An awful lot of people seem to be misunderstanding this suit. Mann doesn’t care if he wins. He doesn’t even care if he has a case. The only thing he cares about is how much the defense effort costs. And whatever that figure is, Mr.Suzuki can most certainly afford it.
When one can not defend ones work you do what M. Mann does.. I find it rather disheartening that he would publicly demean her and then refuse to back up his defamation with any sort of facts..
Dr. Curry is correct by addressing Mann and demanding open facts to back up his claim. Mann has already exposed his yellow streak as he runs away from real science.
Did Mann trade the end of the tree rings for the temperatures of record? Rough trade that.
Clarification: Suzuki can most certainly afford the cost of the offensive action (pun fully intended).