What California says about zero-emission vehicles, and why Tesla is committing fraud

Guest essay by Alberto Zaragoza Comendador
I didn’t create this essay because I dislike electric vehicles. While I’m skeptical of their potential, I have nothing against EVs per se.
Sure, electric cars enjoy a laundry list of incentives. I totally disagree with these policies, but a bajillion people have already pointed out why electric car subsidies are dumb. I cannot add much value there, and EV advocates will argue they’re doing nothing illegal anyway.
The fundamental reason this blog exists is to tell the world about the fraud Tesla is committing. This has resulted in tens of millions dollars’ worth of fraudulent carbon credits being received by the company, and if nothing is done the tally will get into the hundreds of millions. This blog exists not to tell people about EV incentives, but about the illegal incentives a particular EV company is getting. I covered much of the same ground in my first post, but here I’ll give California’s own regulations as sources.
You don’t have to take my word for it.
Click here and go to slide 13. It shows how many Zero Emission Vehicle credits a car gets. ZEVs are divided into seven categories:
· Type 0: less than 50 miles, 1 credit
· Type I: 50-75 miles, 2 credits
· Type I.5: 75-100 miles, 2.5 credits
· Type II: 100-200 miles, 3 credits
· Type III: 200+ miles, 4 credits. (Also: 100+ miles with fast refuelling).
· Type IV: 200+ miles with fast refuelling, 5 credits
· Type V: 300+ miles with fast refuelling, 7 credits
This system is regulated by the California Air Resources Board. And by “fast refuelling” they mean refuelling to 95% of capacity within 10 minutes (Type III) or 15 minutes (Types IV and V). This is impossible for batteries, so it could only be done with hydrogen. Indeed, you’ll hear complaints that the regulations are designed to favor hydrogen over batteries. Well, tell California.
The Model S is clearly a Type III vehicle: it gets between 200 and 300 miles, but even in the fastest Superchargers it needs about one hour to reach 95% of battery capacity. Tesla itself quotes 75 minutes for 100% charging. So it gets 4 credits per car…or at least it should. Let’s go back to 2012.
As of June 15, the 85KWh version (called S3 here) was considered a Type III vehicle. But by October 12 it had morphed into a Type V. So the upgrade happened at some point between these two dates. Presumably, the 60KWh version was also upgraded in the same time frame. Here is a December 20 confirmation that both versions had been upgraded, showing how the 60KWh model went from Type III to Type IV. And here is an restatement in April 2013 of basically the same things, but including the cancelled 40KWh version. (CARB doesn’t seem very well organized).
In any case, production of the Model S only ramped up in the last quarter of 2012, so the vast majority of them qualified under the new classification. The real question is, why the upgrade?
Because of the battery swap. If the car can exchange batteries in 90 seconds, then it’s totally crushing the 15-minute requirement established by the California Air Resources Board. Notice that, even in this case, the 85KWh version still doesn’t meet the range requirement to be a Type V vehicle, as it’s rated by the EPA at 265 miles. So it would be stuck at 5 credits. It seems CARB bent the rules a little, or perhaps they concluded that the superb refuelling time “offset” a deficiency in range. In any case it’s no reason for alarm.
What is a reason for alarm is that CARB gave Tesla these extra credits before any battery swap station had been built. In fact, it happened about nine months before the feature was publicly demonstrated (June 2013). I’ve emailed CARB officials and Tesla twice, to find out more about this issue. Did Tesla demo the battery swap to CARB officials? If so, when and where? Did Tesla bring its own car, or does CARB have one for testing purposes? Did CARB officials check and drive the car before, during and after the swap?
They haven’t answered.
By May, the battery swap was becoming a problem: CARB openly discussed removing it from the fast refuelling category. Perhaps other carmakers were complaining to CARB that Tesla was getting credits for a feature nobody could use. In any case, the agency deferred a decision to October.
In June, after weeks of teasing, Tesla demonstrated the 90-second, fully automated battery swap in public. It was their biggest event this year. Or ever: I can’t remember any other Tesla event with such a level of media coverage.
And guess what, the company brought its own cars and didn’t let anybody near them. The official video doesn’t even show what’s happening under the car.
By August, Tesla forum users were openly calling the feature a stunt. You see, some Model S owners have already put their battery warranties to use, and the battery change takes three or four hours, and a few workers. It’s impossible to automate it, let alone to do so in 90 seconds. This somehow went unnoticed for the Internet.
The company itself hasn’t made a statement about the swap feature for several months. And looking at their SEC filings, there is exactly one reference to this swapping thing.
our capability to rapidly swap out the Model S battery pack and the development of specialized public facilities to perform such swapping, which do not currently exist;
I won’t give you a link, because the exact same sentence has been appearing in every earnings report for a couple years. No estimates of how much the swap stations could cost, or when they could open, or what areas they could serve, or any meaningful information.
The writing was in the wall all this time. Tesla never intended to build the “specialized public facilities to perform such swapping”.
October came, CARB met, and the same issue came up: does a battery swap qualify as fast refuelling? See slide 12:
Some [battery electric vehicles] have been qualifying under the fast refueling definition by means of battery exchange. However, it has not been publically demonstrated that battery exchanges have occurred on the vehicles earning credits. Though staff does recognize the potential for a battery exchange to help market the vehicle, other vehicles earning Type IV and V ZEV credit depend on fast refueling for vehicle operation and success. Staff is proposing to remove battery exchange from qualifying under the fast refueling definition, starting in 2015 model year.
Translation: we know Tesla is a scammer, but we don’t want them to go bankrupt so we’ll let them milk the battery swap cow for another couple years.
As it happens, starting in 2018 all ZEV credits will be awarded on range alone, not on refuelling time (see slide 66). This means the battery swap will no longer give Tesla any extra credits. So if CARB actually takes action in 2015, Tesla could only exploit this loophole for two or three years, out of five in total. Maybe the scam could stop before reaching $200 million. Phew! Good to see those regulators doing their job.
Tesla has reported sales of the 85KWh version at 70-90% of the total. Remember this version was upgraded from four ZEV credits to seven, and the other version from four to five. If that’s the case, then 35-40% of all ZEV credits they earn in California come because of the battery swap. Only Tesla knows how much they’ve made off these credits, but over the last four quarters their ZEV revenue has been $170M. Do the math.
And that doesn’t include figures for the current quarter. Or credits they have earned but haven’t sold yet. If you check the document I just linked to, but in slide 68, you’ll see that all credits can be “banked” (stockpiled) without penalty. Presumably, this could only change starting in 2018 when the ZEV program will revamped. So even if the market is weak one quarter, they can make it up the next.
Here you can see the transfers of ZEV credits among carmakers. It seems Tesla has sold 1,311.52 “credits” from October 2012 to September 2013, which is precisely the period we’re interested in, and they still have 276.080 left. But this is a different measure of credits (grams per mile of non-methane organic gases, and I don’t understand it either). To arrive at the ZEV number, you have to divide them by the number that appears at the bottom of the website, which for this period is 0.035. So Tesla has sold 37,472 credits, and they still have 7,888 in balance. This suggests their total ZEV credits earned for the period were 45,360, so they’ve sold 82% and kept the rest.
Note: this is not an audit. There is surely something I’m missing – credits transferred among states, carried over from previous periods, etc. So this is only an approximation. I suspect their credit generation in California was greater (it has provided 40-50% of their car sales), but they transferred those credits to other states. Also: the number of ZEV credits “generated” by other electric cars cannot be reliably calculated, because the big carmakers sell a lot of low-emission vehicles and they can also generate ZEV credits with those.
Still, we’re probably looking at $150 million in sales of California credits over this period, of which $60 million correspond to the battery swap. Including credits they haven’t sold yet, the respective figures grow by $30 and $12 million.
The bottom line is that ZEV credits are a key source of “revenue” for Tesla. Pure profit, in fact. And they will remain so for the foreseeable future.
And this has serious implications for entire ZEV program. Tesla “produced” about 45,000 ZEV credits in the state from October 12 to September 13. (For calendar 2013, the figure would be higher). Of this amount, about 18,000 (40%) were fraudulent. The only other electric car selling in decent amounts is the Nissan Leaf, but it only gets three credits per car and sells less than the Tesla. Everybody else is a rounding error, and the system as a whole probably produced less than 60,000 credits.
So if 40% of the credits Tesla gets are fraudulent, that’s 30% of the entire California market. In fact, it’s probably more than 20% of the entire US market. And that’s assuming the rest of the system is clean.
In short, the ZEV mandate is a joke.
So here we are, fifteen months after Tesla started getting carbon credits for the battery swap. The company has already cashed out, probably for more than $60 million. Without building a single swap station, or demonstrating the feature in consumer cars, or bothering to provide any sort of explanation.
I have emailed them, written on their Facebook page, posted in their forum. Their only “reaction” was to kinda make the battery swap disappear from their website. It’s impossible to get an actual response from the company.
Tesla intends to shut up its way out of this mess.
The question is, how could a scam so brazen go unnoticed for so long? I think other carmakers probably don’t want to get into trouble with California officials. So they’ve been lobbying to put an end to the special treatment Tesla gets, but they haven’t publicly denounced the situation or filed a lawsuit.
And for industry outsiders, well, the idea that the whole battery swap thing could be a fake is just surreal. How could Tesla sink that low?
The Tesla battery swap is the hoax of the year.
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The electric car is the car of the future. And it always will be. (I think this quote comes from the early days, like the 1900s, but I don’t know the source).
I see an opening for a little ‘business’ opportunity here; equip a pickup truck with a moderately-sized generator and start making use of the twitter ‘handle’ #I-will-charge-you-up and #Tesla-roadside-battery-charge
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Yes combined aerodynamic drag and rolling resistance on a small car at 60 mph is in the range of 15-20 hp lost to drag at a steady speed and level ground, with no wind. Going 60 mph into a 30 mph wind of course causes problems since power consumption goes up at the cube of the speed, and now you have a air speed of 90 mph.
In the Car and Driver test report for the tesla:
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2013-tesla-model-s-reviews
They claim the top speed is 130 mph and highest rated power output is 416 hp.
Since top speed is directly related to max power available, the combined aero drag and rolling resistance at 130 mph is approximately 350 hp (there will be some drive train losses of about 15%). Using the power cube law power required to go 130 mph is about 10x the power required to go 60 mph. The tesla appears to need about 34.4 hp to go 60 mph.
This of course assumes the power rating is accurate, and the stated top speed is correct drag limited top speed.
Using coast down testing most cars only need about 15 hp to go 60 mph at steady state speeds, so I suspect one or both rated hp and top speed is “fudged” a bit. The Subaru WRX is capable of going about 140 mph on only 265 hp ( been there done that myself ). Using the same cube power law, that implies total drag limited power needed to go 60 mph in the Subaru is about :
265 rated hp, = net to wheels of about 225 hp (drive train losses), 140/60 = 2.33
2.33^3 = 12.7
225/12.7= 17.7 hp total drag at 60 mph
The Subaru is also an all wheel drive system so a 2 wheel drive system with the same body shape would do better due to lower drive train losses.
“This of course assumes the power rating is accurate, and the stated top speed is correct drag limited top speed.”
I suspect top speed is limited by the motor RPM, not the motor power. I used to drive my old Lancia at 120mph, and that only had about 135HP; I can’t see how the Tesla would need 400+ to go 10mph faster.
Kaboom says:
December 22, 2013 at 1:40 am
It bears to remember that absent the carbon credit sales Tesla would not be profitable,
Absent C Credits Tesla would not exist.
Here’s a good case study with a ‘practical’ example of the horsepower required to do anything on the ‘other side’ of 150 MPH (700 HP vs 400 HP stock) –
From: http://www.autoblog.com/2013/12/17/first-c7-corvette-pass-200-mph-texas-toll-road-video/
“There’s also a 100-shot of nitrous oxide available from a Nitrous Express kit, just for that little extra bit of punch. The result is 700 horsepower, up from the standard Stingray’s 460 ponies.”
Notice the point where Nitrous Oxide is applied (watch the left hand and thumb):
“Hennessey C7 Corvette Runs 200 MPH on Texas Toll Road”
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Battery Swapping has been tried
From Wikipedia
“Main article: Better Place
The Better Place network was the first modern commercial deployment of the battery switching model. The Renault Fluence Z.E. was the first electric car enabled with switchable battery technology available for the Better Place network in operation in Israel and Denmark.[49] Better Place used the same technology to swap batteries that F-16 jet fighter aircraft use to load their bombs.[50] Better Place launched its first battery-swapping station in Israel, in Kiryat Ekron, near Rehovot in March 2011. The battery exchange process took five minutes.[43][51] As of December 2012[update], about 600 Fluence Z.E.s were sold in the country. Sales during the first quarter of 2013 improved, with 297 cars sold, bringing the total fleet in Israel close to 900.[52] As of December 2012[update], there were 17 battery switch stations fully operational in Denmark enabling customers to drive anywhere across the country in an electric car.[53] Fluence Z.E. sales totaled 198 units through December 2012.[54]
Better Place filed for bankruptcy in Israel in May 2013. The company’s financial difficulties were caused by the high investment required to develop the charging and swapping infrastructure, about US$850 million in private capital, and a market penetration significantly lower than originally predicted by Shai Agassi. Less than 1,000 Fluence Z.E. cars were deployed in Israel and around 400 units in Denmark.[55][56] Under Better Place’s business model, the company owns the batteries, so the court liquidator will have to decide what to do with customers who do not have ownership of the battery and risk being left with a useless car.[57”
Last Spring Bjorn Lomborg wrote an op-ed piece for the WSJ titled ‘Green Cars Have a Dirty Little Secret’. He pointed out the large energy requirement for manufacturing the battery packs for EVs and hybrids. Shortly after that, Unit Econometrics LLC (a market research firm serving mainly Institutional Investment companies) did an analysis comparing total CO2 emissions for manufacturing and operation of EVs and conventional gasoline powered cars (GPCs).
Several conservative estimates were made in the analysis, including a 100k mile lifetime of each car (I suspect very few car owners able to purchase an impractical $100k+ auto will be driving it that much; of course in California buyers qualify for $30-40k in subsidies). In any event, the results showed that the Tesla produced more CO2 per mile than a Jeep Grand Cherokee. Worse than that, because very few emission controls for NOx and SOx are required for electrical generation, while air pollution controls for GPCs are very tight, the Tesla emits thousands of times more of these health hazard pollutants than current generation GPCs.
The very interesting full report can be found here
(www.uniteconomics.com/files/Tesla_Motors_Is_the_Model_S_Green.pdf).
Hello, thanks everybody for the feedback. I’m sorry I cannot name the specific people who made some comments, but there are 83 responses right now so I’ll try to summarize everything.
Regarding “slide 13”: I said slide in every document, whether it was a Powerpoint, PDF or something else. So it’s not slide but page 13, but the info I mention (definition of EV types) is there.
Regarding the guy who posted something from Green Car Reports: wow. This is yet more evidence that the swap cannot be done as advertised. He tries to change his 60KWh pack for an 85KWh one…and they tell him the car will be ready THE FOLLOWING DAY!
With regards to FOIA, I see two problems. Fist, my lack of information: how does it work, what parts of government it affects, how to make a request, etc. Yeah, I could solve that with more screen time. But the second problem is bigger: I’m a Spanish citizen. I live in Spain, and have set foot in the US for about week of my life. And I suspect the act applies only to American citizens.
With respect to taking people to court, the problem is the same as above. I live in Spain and have no idea how to initiate a lawsuit in the US. It would be aimed at CARB and Tesla, but where do I start? How do I pay the lawyers? Or the plane ticket? I’m about to begin a 400€/month internship! Can you just email all the evidence to a judge and hope he will actually read it? How often, and how long would I have to be in the US? (Not to mention CARB has a $600 million budget, and Tesla makes about $1.5 billion a year in revenue. Sure they can hire lawyers and I could end up being the one in trouble).
Let me say I have already contacted a bunch of US government agencies. These were tips, not lawsuits.
DOJ: content-free response.
FTC: content-free response
FBI: no response
GAO: no response. (But they cover federal fraud, and this is a California issue. Still I tried).
That’s all for now, I will read the comments again later and see if there is something I can add.
MarkG says:
December 22, 2013 at 8:24 am
They made sense for a lady, who didn’t want to fuss with crank-starting her car, & who only drove two & fro the shops a few miles (40 centilitres, in metric, I think). They didn’t need to go more than 50 miles, nor exceed 30 mph, which is about where the technology is today if you find $80000 horrifying for a car.
Disclaimer: I paid $650 for a used Volvo in 2010. It runs. It’s far more efficient than buying a new car & driving it for 8-10 years while the cost amortizes.
One of the major arguments goes like this:
“This is just the early stages of a really good thing!”
Well, apart from it not being, in the end, a good thing because of the countless reasons against it, I’ll bet that the developer of the Hindenberg made a similar argument.
I think argumentum ad futurum should be a logical fallacy to be coined in addition to all the other fallacies broken willy-nilly by the warm-earthers.
I am an electronic engineer and have always been attracted by the electric car; but as an engineer, I see no advantage in them, only cost. The Internal Combustion Engine is as good as it gets, unless some future miraculous technology arrives.
Remember, folks, given vehicles of equal mass, cross-sectional area and drag factor, it doesn’t matter what power source drives the vehicles; it requires the same amount of energy.
The Green Car Reports article has another gem:
http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1089183_life-with-tesla-model-s-battery-upgrade-from-60-kwh-to-85-kwh/page-3
The 85KWh battery costs $44,564. Which sounds insane, but is totally in line with $500 per KWh, the typical price of li-ion batteries.
Driving 15,000 miles a year in a 20 mpg car, at $4/gallon costs $3,000/yr. The outlay of the new super-genius battery would pay for the gas of an average car for 14.85 years. This battery is a great deal! (for maroons).
I would guess this is the only model that could make battery-swapping feasible, for the many reasons adduced in the comments above. If you owned the car, and the company owned the batteries and maintained numerous battery-swapping stations, there would be no worries about swapping your new one for an old, tired one. You would just pay an annual fee, or a fee for each swap. Then, if the car were redesigned so that the large battery pack could be slid out of and back into a slot with something like a fork lift, and if each station had enough real estate to store large numbers of these battery packs, the system might work. But the initial investment would be huge, and the Tesla as it stands would have to be re-engineered.
My only question would be: Why bother? Gas and diesel engines, and natural gas ones too, work quite well enough, and we’ve cut their true pollution down to near-zero (CO2 is NOT a pollutant). Nice that Tesla built a cool, fast electric car. Now get the government(s) out of subsidizing them, and lets see if they can sell any. What’ll the true cost be? $200k?
/Mr Lynn
Mr. Lynn:
Unfortunately. your “What If” scenario has now at least tripled the cost of a battery to $!50K, minimum (by my reckoning) to cover labor, inventory, etc.
In my previous innovative business, we needed to achieve about an 33% COGS (cost of goods sold), then figuring pricing strategy, fixed overhead, inventory, profit margin, survival against innovation, longevity, etc. This is without sales and marketing—when this is added, our COGS was given at 15%. In other words, if we could not make something for less than 15% of the selling price, the project was not a go.
By this experience, $240,000 per battery would be a crude reckoning for what you envisaged.
I’m sure my taxpayer’s contribution to subsidize this would defray this a large bit, maybe bring it down to $175K or so. This is probably way above what is called the “psychological pricing”, that is, what the market will bear.
Of course, some gifted people in Hollywood and Martha’s Vineyard will pay whatever the price. Image costs money.
You have hit on two of the three technologies (liquid-fuel IC engine and pure electric). No mention of the kinetic (‘rolling’) energy recovery vehicles though. They, (hybrids) of course, make more sense in stop and go or hilly driving environs where recovery of a good portion of the kinetic energy imparted on the vehicle during accelerating (or adding potential energy in the case of climbing hills) can be recovered when ‘stopping’ (literally: re-generating energy back into the battery using the drive train in reverse fashion to the electric motor/generator).
PS. I have always thought of these ‘hybrids’ as making use of Kinetic Energy Recovery (KER) technology, rather than the simple marketing term ‘hybrids’ as applied by the manufacturers.
The ‘economics’ of a KER technology (which I’m not going to address) are another issue and a case study in themselves …
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Kinetic energy recovery also has some real world limitations. It becomes very difficult to make it smart enough to recover energy on slow down when the roads are very slick. It is largely limited to fair weather driving for maximum energy recovery. Like antilock brakes, the recovery system can only apply the tractive effort that is available on the road surface at the moment. It has to do that in coordination with brake application necessary to stop in the required distance on the road surface and tires in use. It sounds simple in concept but much more difficult in the real world, all weather all terrain (dirt roads, pavement, rail road tracks) all sorts of traffic conditions.
I suspect the next big jump in energy power plant efficiency, will be a combination of ultra high efficiency small displacement engine running at constant governed ideal speed to charge a hybrid, with an instant start on demand turbocharged booster engine directly coupled to the drive axle, and some means to recover waste heat from the exhaust / cooling system like a sterling engine all merged into an integrated package.
Current high efficiency internal combustion engines (diesel or direct injection ethanol) can approach 40% thermal efficiency, which throws away 60% of the fuels thermal energy as waste heat. Standard high tech IC engines today get into the low 30% range for thermal efficiency throwing away 70% of the fuels energy. Recover just a fraction of that waste heat and you can increase the specific power output (for fuel consumed) by 20% or more.
We have been able to build 50 mpg cars for 50 years but that has been the practical limit. Not much is going to change until we can routinely get 60-70 mpg in daily traffic and that will require some method of energy recovery or use of ultra high temperature tolerant engine components (ceramic pistons and cylinder heads/valves) to get thermal efficiencies up significantly above 35%-40%
bubbagyro at December 22, 2013 at 5:28 pm: The price that would yield a profit depends very much on the quantity of goods sold. Conceivably if millions of revised Teslas without batteries plus battery-swap contracts could be sold the huge upfront costs for creating the swap-stations and battery inventory could be amortized to the point where you could show a profit at a ‘reasonable’ price point. But it’s hard to see how you’d get there without a very rich sugar daddy. Maybe George Soros would like to bankroll the venture. I sure hope we can elect enough fiscal conservatives to get the federal government out of the business. And at some point the people of California will have had enough, too.
/Mr Lynn
Why do you suppose I chose the words: “where recovery of a good portion of the kinetic energy” Larry? Perhaps I, and many others, are aware NO system of ‘energy conversion’ is 100% (tempted to use the words: “even approach”)?
Good advice would be to stay off the roads when they are slick, Larry. Sage advice .. exercise good judgement and wait for the roads to become what is termed ‘passable’. I have no trouble with ice or snow, however, adding additional untrained/inexperienced drivers becomes the issue.
If you drive like I suppose most of us do, in a rational and sane manner, the system works just fine. Of course, I cannot assume rational action or practices on someone else’s part since they have brought these issues up.
Larry Ledwick is catching on; I don’t suppose they call you Larry ‘Leadfoot’ Ledwick by any chance or for any reason do they?
It’s a well known issue with regenerative braking, and if you were civil I would try to respond to your comments but you obviously have an axe to grind and I am not interested in feeding trolls today.
NTSB has received multiple complaints about regenerative braking on the Prius and is watching that issue.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/04/business/global/04prius.html?_r=0
http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/cars-trucks/Toyota-Recall/
http://www.nbcnews.com/business/toyota-recalls-prius-lexus-hybrid-faulty-brakes-6C10208931
Tom Meehan – I would like to add to what you wrote above:
I realize the “100K mile” lifespan for a “typical” car is something of a standard, but I think that’s a complete load of crap.
My last car had turned over 500,000 km when I finally sold it. Granted, I did my own maintenance and it probably would have been a cost nightmare for someone who had to pay a mechanic for every little thing.
My current car has just rolled over 155,000 km, and it’s like new. I’ve replaced ball joints and bearings, did the brakes in April and the alternator last month. Otherwise if you were to ride with me you’d think it was a 2013 car. My total cost for repairs is less than half my cost for tires, and it’s a 2008 Caliber SRT4.
In contrast, I know more than one person with a “hybrid” and one with an electric car. Their total repairs in similar time frames are very, very high. And I always found it ironic that someone with an electric car that spends a lot of time in the shop gets an SUV rental when it’s in there.
I guarantee that even with my 300HP “performance car” I’m creating far fewer emissions than my friends with “alternative” vehicles, the car was less expensive to buy, and I have a LOT more fun driving it. I love pointing that out to them, they get very annoyed.
I think it’s a pity Better Place failed. It seems they got a lot of their business model right, in terms of readily swappable battery packs, a workable network of swap stations in their initial core markets, a subscription system for batteries rather than ownership etc. Apparently, the main problems were management related (who could have guessed?) and failure to secure a critical volume of sales in time to avert bankruptcy.
The model appeals to me as a solution for what to do with all those ghastly wind turbines. Rather than destabilising the grid with their intermittent output, they could be used as battery charging stations, where the solution to intermittency is a large enough store of batteries to cover calm periods. That would also eliminate the problem of high-draw charging installations on local urban circuits. I suspect also that the concept would work better with smaller, lightweight 1 or 2 seater runabouts for going to work and shopping rather than full-sized family cars or up-market Tesla racers.
Perhaps we can rely on the Chinese to get it sussed first – see ZT’s post, 22nd Dec 8.05am.
If a farmer can conceive and build a working prototype in 3 months for a thousand pounds, plus whatever he had lying around in his shed, it is surely within the capacity of any industrial nation to build a safe, practical and affordable vehicle of this type. I would much rather see government “green” funds being invested in projects of this nature than being wasted on interminable meetings, conferences and supercomputers for modellers that achieve zip.
Once the Model E 25k Tesla ships:
Gas in cars = film in cameras.
Gas stations = blockbuster video.
Exxon = Kodak
Model S is the only car I trust my family’s safety with, and I’ll never again enter one of those gas car potential doom traps.
Go Tesla.