Super Typhoon Haiyan, '…as intense as a tropical cyclone can get. '

Haiyan_eye

Prepare yourselves for the second coming of Katrina, because you can bet that this storm will be hyped as an indicator of “global warming”.

As of this writing, the storm is in the process of making landfall in the Philippines and it is moving west at 20-25 knots and estimated winds of 170 knots (195mph).

Hurricane expert Dr. Ryan Maue has been monitoring the Super Typhoon for the past several days and remarked about the historic nature of Haiyan.  In this upper echelon of cyclone intensity, it is difficult to assign rankings or compare Typhoons due to inhomogeneous observing networks and tools.  But it’s fair to say that Super Typhoon Haiyan is as intense as a tropical cyclone can get

Presented at AMS Tropical in 2004, Hoarau et al. asked if there were any Typhoons stronger than Tip (1979).  Two likely candidates emerged including Super Typhoon Angela from 1995 which has been compared with today’s storm.  Satellite estimates through Dvorak technique yielded an intensity of 90 m/s or 175 knots which is greater than Tip’s maximum of 165 knots.  A quick comparison between Angela and Haiyan at maximum intensity suggests the latter is actually stronger.  Dvorak estimates are at the top of the scale — T = 8.0 and even touched 8.1, which according to this chart, means 170-knot maximum 1-minute sustained winds.  That is Category 5 with three pluses.

Dvorak BD imagery comparing Super Typhoon Angela (left) 1995 at 175-knots maximum estimated intensity vs. Super Typhoon Haiyan at 170-knots.

The actual best-tracks have Tip at 165-knots and there are many others that exceeded 155-knots.  Here’s a handy list of advisories that met or exceeded 155 since 1950.  The JTWC best tracks are increasingly uncertain prior to the satellite era (1979) but there is some confidence primarily due to routine aircraft recon from 1944-1987 in the Western Pacific.  Aside from field studies (e.g. TPARC) run by NASA in coordination with neighboring nations, routine hurricane hunting does not occur outside of the Western Hemisphere.

Global landfalls were discussed in a recent J. Climate paper by Weinkle, Maue and Pielke Jr. Weinkle_2012.04

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Above: as morning breaks in the Philippines, one of the first two visible satellite images

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Above: animation from IntelliWeather.com showing the last 12 hours of motion as of 1PM PST 11/7/13. – may take up to a minute to load and animate, depending on your connection speed.

With winds like that, expect to see complete devastation as it makes landfall. That of course will be hyped into an AGW caused storm, just like Katrina. Al Gore and Bill McKibben are already testing lies language on Twitter. Bear in mind that we have a very short historical record of Typhoon strength, and any claims that this is the strongest storm ever need to be qualified with that fact. Nobody has any credible record of typhoon strength back more than a few decades.

I’ll add updates and additional content to this article today – Anthony

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UPDATE1:  NOAA image as Haiyan prepares to make landfall:

Haiyan_closeup

UPDATE2: Haiyan is expected to make it all the way to China. Maue on Twitter:

12z ECMWF model shows #Haiyan maintaining deep central pressure of 947 mb as it moves quickly west thru S. China Sea

Haiyan_post_phil_model

UPDATE3: Radar image from Cebu City shows the eye of Haiyan approaching, click image for animation:

haiyan_radar_cebucity

UPDATE4: Dr. Heidi Cullen of Climate Central wins the “First Haiyan BS award” with this missive.

As Bob Tisdale observes, there’s nothing to support this along the track of Haiyan:

Lots of the typical BS accumulating already about Typhoon Haiyan.  Let’s push some of it aside and present the sea surface temperature anomalies for the early portion of Haiyan’s storm track.

There was nothing unusually warm about the sea surface temperature anomalies for the early portion of Typhoon Haiyan’s storm track last week, the week of Wednesday October 30, 2013.  We’ll have to wait for Monday to see what the values were for this week.

Early Typhoon Haiyan SSTa Weekly

UPDATE5:  Jeff Masters, makes this claim:

Super Typhoon Haiyan has made landfall. According to PAGASA, Haiyan came ashore at 4 am local time (20 UTC) November 7, 2013 near Guiuan, on the Philippine island of Samar. At the time, Guiuan reported sustained 10-minute average winds of 96 mph, with a pressure of 977 mb. Contact has since been lost with the city. Two hours before landfall, the Joint Typhoon Warning Center assessed Haiyan’s sustained winds at 195 mph, gusting to 235 mph, making it the 4th strongest tropical cyclone in world history. Satellite loops show that Haiyan weakened only slightly, if at all, in the two hours after JTWC’s advisory, so the super typhoon likely made landfall with winds near 195 mph. This makes Haiyan the strongest tropical cyclone on record to make landfall in world history. The previous record was held by the Atlantic’s Hurricane Camille of 1969, which made landfall in Mississippi with 190 mph winds.

Sorry, no. Super Typhoon Ida in 1958 is said to have central pressure of 877mb and 200 mph 1 minute sustained winds: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typhoon_Ida_%281958%29

C. L. Jordan (September 1959). “A Reported Sea Level Pressure of 877 MB.” (PDF). Monthly Weather Review. Retrieved 2011-11-23.

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November 8, 2013 6:32 am

“the hurricane pushed a storm surge of 22 feet above mean seal level ”
Those poor seals! First polar bears, now seals…is there anything that global warming cant do?

Bill Illis
November 8, 2013 6:38 am

Technically, the sea surface temperatures in the region have cooled somewhat in the last few months beyond the normal seasonal peak in September. Close to average temps right now at 30C.
http://www.ospo.noaa.gov/data/sst/anomaly/2013/anomc.11.7.2013.gif

jbird
November 8, 2013 6:47 am

Keith: “…..appears to be a rather rapid weakening over recent hours….”
Fortunate for the Philippine islanders, unfortunate for the AGW alarmists.

November 8, 2013 7:12 am

Bill Illis says
Technically, the sea surface temperatures in the region have cooled somewhat in the last few months beyond the normal seasonal peak in September.
henry says
yes
you are right
it is globally cooling:
http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/hadcrut4gl/from:1987/to:2014/plot/hadcrut4gl/from:2002/to:2014/trend/plot/hadcrut3gl/from:1987/to:2014/plot/hadcrut3gl/from:2002/to:2014/trend/plot/rss/from:1987/to:2014/plot/rss/from:2002/to:2014/trend/plot/hadsst2gl/from:1987/to:2014/plot/hadsst2gl/from:2002/to:2014/trend/plot/hadcrut4gl/from:1987/to:2002/trend/plot/hadcrut3gl/from:1987/to:2002/trend/plot/hadsst2gl/from:1987/to:2002/trend/plot/rss/from:1987/to:2002/trend
hence, because of this, you will get more precipitation around the equator and less at the higher latitudes.
Natural forces.

November 8, 2013 7:15 am

“Haiyan had winds of 190 – 195 mph at landfall, making it the strongest tropical cyclone on record to make landfall in world history…” This has been reported all night long on CNN here in Baja which is the only TV news channel I get. They lead with “strongest tropical cyclone on record to make landfall in world history”. They also say that there are no direct measurements of wind speed – no anemometers that can withstand that wind-speed without being destroyed. There are no planes which fly into the storms – the measurements are all done from space.

Ljhooge
November 8, 2013 7:16 am

The last update should be update 5?

Pamela Gray
November 8, 2013 7:32 am

I can imagine the quick email sent out to MSM reporters:
“Re: Typhoon Haiyan. All jargon related to ‘recorded climate history’ will be officially changed to ‘world history’. If it bleeds it leads. Worse, if few people die in this storm, we have to make the headline bleed even if the people don’t. Now get back to your keyboards and make the headline look like a human-caused killing monster from hell!!!!”

Jeff Alberts
November 8, 2013 7:56 am

Presented at AMS Tropical in 2004, Hoarau et al. asked if there were any Typhoons stronger than Tip (1979). Two likely candidates emerged including Super Typhoon Angela from 1995 which has been compared with today’s storm.

What about Super Duper Typhoon We-Didn’t-Know-You-Existed back in 10,000bc? We’ve been watching these things for an eyeblink in time, and we get all worked up about them as if they’ve only started happening now. It’s really amazing watching the scurrying ants.

DaveF
November 8, 2013 8:27 am

Mumble McGuirk 5:43 am.
Thanks, Mumble. Dave.

Mac the Knife
November 8, 2013 8:59 am

My heart goes out to the negritos hill people of the Philippines. They live a subsistence existence in the forests and hills, are the least likely to be prepared, and the most vulnerable. The heavy rains will wash out access ‘roads’ (that jeeps have difficulty navigating under normal conditions) and destroy their meager crops just as harvest season was approaching. They will be the last folks to receive any formal aid or assistance, except from Christian ministries that already have working relationships with some of these disparate and isolated villages.

November 8, 2013 9:18 am

DaveF says:
November 8, 2013 at 2:08 am
Excuse my ignorance, but, since the Philippines are north of the equator, and the storm in the video appears to be turning anti-clockwise, why is it a tropical cyclone and not a tropical anticyclone? (Genuine question.)
“”
DaveF. I learned in meteorology:
” In the N Hemisphere, it’s clockwise around a high.”

November 8, 2013 9:38 am

The typhoon reveals the current state of climate schizophrenia. The global average has not increased for the past 15+ years because advocates argue the heat has been stored at ocean depths below 700 meters. Somehow the global warming advocates still try to connect that hidden heat to every extreme event. The warmth can affect temperatures so how can cause extreme weather. Like the world hottest temperatures at Death Valley in 1913 when both solar activity and CO2 levels were low, natural dynamics cause the greatest extremes. The typhoon also shows how different methods of averaging can create different records extremes depending on whether or not 1 minute or 10 minute averages are used.

DaveF
November 8, 2013 9:54 am

RobRoy 9:18 am:
Thanks, Rob. Dave.

Power Grab
November 8, 2013 10:39 am

Bob Weber says:
November 7, 2013 at 4:12 pm
I believe that recent solar X-flares are responsible for this particular extreme weather event. Conversely, the ongoing lack of solar activity until recently explains the dearth of tornadoes and hurricanes in North America this season. Does anyone remember that a large X-flare preceded Katrina?
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Yes, I remember that.
It made quite an impression on me. I figured that whenever we got into a solar minimum, the number of big hurricanes would drop. It did. The authorities (esp. the Weather Channel) kept predicting high numbers of big named storms, but their predictions always came to naught as the seasons fizzled out.

Power Grab
November 8, 2013 10:40 am

By the way, Bob Weber and Tom in Florida, did you notice that there was an X-class flare on Nov. 5, right before the wind speeds accelerated? 😉
P.S., Tom, thanks for the wind speed history.

November 8, 2013 10:58 am

u.k.(us) says:
November 7, 2013 at 4:32 pm
Willis Eschenbach says:
November 7, 2013 at 2:36 pm
In addition, preparation seems to serve both functions, under the old idea that “God helps those that help themselves” …
w.
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Of the old “mantras”, that is the only one I’ll repeat when asked to.

Though you might want to include its’ companion and corollary – “There are no atheists in foxholes.”

jonny old boy
November 8, 2013 11:04 am

this storm will make history if its track prediction is accurate…. it is shaping up to be Vietnams biggest natural disaster in its modern history. This is nothing proven to AGW/climate blah blah blah but this IS unusual and extremely violent.

TomRude
November 8, 2013 12:28 pm

It’s been a long time since Jeff Masters could be taken seriously…

November 8, 2013 12:55 pm

One thing I think most of us have missed (and if I missed a comment addressing this, my apologies).
Haiyan is a pussy cat of a storm! How do we know? Climate Alarmists tell us this.
They claim Sandy was a superstorm because of the billions in damages done! Haiyan’s damage total is going to come no where near that. So it cannot be a bad storm.

Tim Clark
November 8, 2013 12:58 pm

I’d rather not say says:
November 8, 2013 at 6:32 am
“the hurricane pushed a storm surge of 22 feet above mean seal level ”
Those poor seals! First polar bears, now seals…is there anything that global warming cant do?
What did it do to the friendly seals?

November 8, 2013 1:18 pm

“a bloke says:
November 8, 2013 at 12:13 am
anyone who thinks this is normal as to get a checkup mate this storm is not a simple event this is something we can expect from now on”

You’re just another bloke and this is just another tropical cyclone..
Panic much?

November 8, 2013 2:55 pm

Ryan Maue firing on Twitter :
– First of many garbage articles to come. http://t.co/Ll3n7TfQGW
– Most Climate change & cyclone articles follow same flawed template that require a Bull**** button. Google search level of knowledge.
– Over past 1,000 years, Philippines have been hit by 10-20 thousand tropical cyclones. Don’t be so arrogant to believe man caused Haiyan.

Larry Ledwick (hotrod)
November 8, 2013 3:14 pm

This is nothing proven to AGW/climate blah blah blah but this IS unusual and extremely violent.

There is a very big difference between “rarely happens” and “unusual” where unusual implies that the event is a symptom of a undesirable.
Drawing a royal flush in poker is not at all unusual, it is in fact a certainty of statistical probability of the game if you are using a fair deck, but it is never the less, a rare event. Likewise “perfect storms” where everything comes together in just the right way for the storm to build rapidly to peak intensities we rarely see must be rare events but that does not make them symptomatic of some “unusual” or sinister change in the climate system.
These big and powerful storms are a perfectly normal event, they have been happening for thousands of years, the fact we have not actively documented them due to our feeble ability to observe weather with precision does not make them special in any way. They are rare but not unusual.
It is the height of human arrogance to presume we have seen the full range or “normal” weather in the very brief eyeblink of human history and even shorter period of effective observation tools like satellite observations. Given the probabilities of weather it is in fact highly unlikely that we even know what extreme weather is in the long view of climate and weather history.

Richards in Vancouver
November 8, 2013 3:21 pm

I have both a son and a good friend in Cebu City. No word yet, of course.

Richards in Vancouver
November 8, 2013 9:25 pm

Update: Cebu must have its power back on. That’s fast! Heard from both parties an hour ago via Facebook.

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