From the James Hansen said the oceans would boil and the Tabloid Climatology™ department…
As a long-suffering member of the television news media, some-days, I just want to find the reporter and slap him upside the head and tell him to do some basic science research before making wild claims on national TV. This is one of those days. The graphic below says it all.
From the Business and Media Institute comes this howler from CBS News about the latest IPCC report.
“[CBS] Evening News” took a different tack, airing a story about oyster farming and complaints that climate change is ruining a man’s business. But in Ben Tracy’s story, which mentioned the IPCC’s latest report, he said that oceans have absorbed much of the heat caused by CO2 and that ocean temperatures have risen only slightly. Then he made a claim that Principal Research Scientist Dr. Roy Spencer of the University of Alabama in Huntsville called “totally misleading and irresponsible.”
Here’s what the reporter said, after telling us most of the heat went into the oceans:
“Had all that heat gone into the atmosphere, air temperatures could have risen by more than 200 degrees [showed 212 degrees onscreen],” Tracy warned.
Watch the video here, be sure to leave a comment for CBS News.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57605102/oyster-is-a-canary-in-a-coal-mine-as-oceans-warm/
Spencer told the MRC’s Business and Media Institute,
“The oceans have warmed by an average of less than 0.1 deg. C (only the SURFACE by about 0.5 deg.) since the 1950s, and since that is so much water mass, the absorbed heat equivalent to 0.1 deg. IF RELEASED ALL AT ONCE IN THE ATMOSPHERE [it] would, indeed, be hundreds of degrees. But this is physically impossible. It is a meaningless statistic. The heat actually had to go through the atmosphere before it reached the ocean.”
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Yes, I spelled “homey” wrong.
Am I ever having fun with the IPCC 5AR let’s start with sea level rise and do some simple math for you
Loss of ice measured 150 GT per year ( claimed 300 but no measurement to justify this number) i.e 150x10E9 m3/y
Area of the oceans 3.55x10E14 m2 ( wolfram alpha)
Addition to the sea level = 15xE9/3.55E14 m/yr
That equals 0.294mm/yr or 42.25E-5 m/yr = 0.4225mm/yr
So in 100 years we have 42.25mm which equals 1.66 inches per century
Simple math but it proves the IPCC drastically wrong yet again
Please show me my error in calculation.
Can anyone tell me what the difference is between the National Enquirer and CBS News?
@Gail Combs – Re: National Enquirer v. CBS
Yes, the National Enquirer gets it right on occasion. (See; John Edwards).
Won’t someone think of the oysters!
davidmhoffer says:
October 2, 2013 at 3:26 pm
I’m looking for a half decent analogy
That is as likely as having all the noise generated in a Stanley Cup final hockey game coming back ten years later and causing a sonic boom and shattering one of your windows.
I wonder if this might be CBS’ “jumping the shark” incident for climate change?
Where did all this Climate BS come from? Are those the right initials?
That’s some sneaky heat! Hope it doesn’t all come out at once this Friday; I’m playing golf.
wayne says: @ur momisugly October 2, 2013 at 5:57 pm
…I learned to use the very same principles of large mass to keep my house cool in the summer and warm in the winter with diurnal temperature variances and is why my gas and electric bills are always about half of all of my neighbors, you do have to open the windows at the right time….
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I do the same and use big box window fans and a couple of attic fans. Cut my bill in half.
I think I’ve got it.
I’m going to heat a big pot of water. Then I’m going to worry that all that heat that went into the water will come out all at once and melt the stove top.
@ur momisugly davidmhoffer
How is this:
Put a drop of ink in a bathtub full of water. What’s the chance that the drop will come out of the bathtub and stain your best shirt?
S. Meyer says:
October 2, 2013 at 6:42 pm
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Finally, somebody who ‘gets’ the 2nd law.
So Obama’s “War on Coal” is really a war on canaries?
Or maybe he’s just out to make them homeless? (At least an awful lot of them seem to like to hang out in coal mines.)
Do the PETAphiles know about this?
Jtom says:
October 2, 2013 at 5:59 pm
“Just submitted this article to Drudge. Could be fun if they pick up on it.”
Yep – Drudge picked it up! Ha ha ha ha ha!!! Let the derision begin…
http://www.drudgereport.com/
“CBSNEWS warns ‘global warming’ could raise temperatures 212 degrees!”
Quite, you have A sky and B deep ocean. You first need the Global warming theory to be right and work, heating the sea surface and doing all the water vapour feedback ie The sky and sea surface where we measure should have been a lot warmer. And after all that then you can try and claim that 83% of your global warming heat went south, in the deep ocean. But instead they said it first just went B, deep ocean, completely by passing the global warming event above.
And of course we don’t measure this deep ocean, so even if we started tomorrow no past anomaly or lack of it would be seen, and no trend found until 30 years into the future. It’s strange that a 15 year flat trend can be dismissed because it’s not 30 years. But a deep ocean guess is given instant credibility and the reason to spend billions and trillions on windmills.
Wouldn’t the scientific method be to investigate this deep ocean myth. Get some Empirical data before we chuck more good money after bad. But of course they won’t and they don’t need to because they know its just a temporary bit of wool.
If some hippies some decades back had approached a politician telling him to spend Billions on giant energy pointless windmills that blew over in a strong wind because one day in the future the oceans would have 83% extra heat, but that no one could measure it and the rest of planet would look pretty much the same, they would have been shown the door. But now with the Cult of Climatology behind them it’s gospel.
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Maybe they mean “Global Warming” has necessitated that many degrees of “adjustment” to that area’s past temperature records?
“DirkH says:
October 2, 2013 at 2:43 pm
… My question is, if the government has shut down, why is CBS News on air?”
Answer:
The Department of State is not shut down.
Global birdseed supply threatened by massive influx of canaries!
We’re dumbed! Dumbed, I tell ya! Oops, “doomed” I mean…
I live in an old stone house. During the day, the stone walls absorb heat. I calculated that if all the walls have up all their heat at once I would spontaneously combust in my living room. Gosh darn I hope that doesn’t happen anytime soon.
“If some hippies some decades back had approached a politician telling him to spend Billions …”
— John Spencer
1) Theoretical politics is purchasing votes through sound reason and good governance.
2) Criminal politics is purchasing votes with cash and without some third party to blame for the commerce.
3) Crony politics is purchasing votes with cash and blaming science or philosophy.
4) Modern politics is purchasing votes with cash and blaming the science or philosophy the politician purchased.
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Cannary Row!
Hey, Werner Brozek and David L., LOL, love your ideas. I just wanted you to know your posts are not invisible. Uh, oh. Since mine apparently are, this was futile. Well, just in case… .
@David Hoffer — I forgot to address the second half of your question. How do you not let a distinct note of sarcasm not enter your voice? For me, it would take a miracle, so the answer, if you are like me (perish the thought, hm? lol) would be: pray.
Alan Watt, Climate Denialist Level 7 says:
October 2, 2013 at 5:26 pm
I was there once around age 5 when we lived in northern Indiana for a little while, and again at age 23 while returning to Ohio from a bicycle tour in the Pacific Northwest.
The coal mine really impressed me when I was 5, I thought it would be really neat to have a coal mine under our house (many folks in Pennsylvania would disagree).
When I went back, I remembered enough to determine there was something weird about how far down the elevator went. It looked a lot more like a fake wall moving by at 23 than it did at 5. Still, it was a bit odd to leave by going down a few steps.
I was also amazed at how little progress they made on that coal face. Perhaps they brought in some more powerful technology in the last 40 years. 🙂
“dumbed” — Frank Kotler — lol.
Just out of curiosity, does anyone know the sum of how much all the climate models’ projections have diverged from reality? Is it anywhere near 212?