Oh, this is rich. via Junkscience.com, Mann claimed he was “baited” into filing a lawsuit.
Satirical cartoon from Cartoonsbyjosh.com
Michael Mann filed three briefs last week in the ongoing defamation lawsuit. In one he claims:
In view of the defendants’ initial public bravado regarding Dr. Mann, their latest attempt to avoid a trial on this matter rings hollow–and basic principles of equity and fairness should estop them from now seeking an appeal. Defendants baited Dr. Mann to file this lawsuit.
After he asked for a retraction and apology, the defendants told their readers that they would welcome a lawsuit because it would give them the opportunity to take discovery from Dr. Mann and his colleagues.
They boasted they would hire dedicated staff to sift through that discovery and make it publicly available.1 They raised hundreds of thousands of dollars from their readers to pursue this discovery. They proclaimed they would “kick” Dr. Mann’s “legal heinie” in court.
LEGAL_17107968v1_OppositiontoMotionforInterlocutoryCertification Click for the brief.
One only has to look at Dr. Mann’s Twitter account to see examples of his ‘climate baiting’ in action on a daily basis. #kochmachine #kochtopus #deniers #antiscience, etc.
Dr. Mann is conflating satire at his hockeystick driven web antics with defamation. His claim of “baiting” is nothing more than a psychological projection of his own immature actions and he seems clueless that his own super-sized monolithic ego is the reason that he’s in the position he’s in.
As Dr. Roger Pielke Jr. once quipped:
If Michael Mann did not exist, the skeptics would have to invent him.
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To continue with the theme: Oh, what a lucky Mann he was!
I say: Follow the money.
Because, to me, it looks like Michael Mann only recently was notified that he would have to pay all incoming legal bills by himself, instead of getting them payed by his Alma Mater and, thus, he is trying to cut an expectably very long legal battle as short as possible, in order to save him some serious bucks.
Mann is correct. Just look at the ClimateGate emails. In one of them, he is excited at the prospect of suing David Keene because Keene accused Phil Jones and his coauthor Wang of lying about temperature records in China. It is obvious from reading that that Mann would jump at the chance to sue people.
Rhonda, if Mann was paying his own fees, he would have given up long ago.
Discovery should ascertain who actually is paying his fees; the answer might be amusing.
At 1:37 PM on 19 August, Peter Miller had speculated:
Is such information legitimately discoverable?
Were that the case, it wouldn’t surprise me none to learn that it’s coming by way of Perkins Coie from the accounts of Obama For America.
Climatology members are fond Mannsterbaiters.
Safe for work: http://oi41.tinypic.com/2ln9s13.jpg
Bated or baited? Bated probably applied better in this case.
“The full import of the title “The Tethered Goat” took a few minutes to sink in … I wonder if the warmists will at all comprehend the meaning?”
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Giles Goat Boy? Bill Grogan’s Goat?
Climate FUNding….a Moveable Feast….
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Finding out who’s paying for this ….. sore a$$ perhaps
(aka Soros) or maybe the Goreacle….
There’s money to be had, be it good or be it bad
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probable would not be so much push back from the Mannekin’s part
if there were not something to hide/protect/whatever….
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Oh science, where are you now?
Tucci78 says: @ur momisugly August 19, 2013 at 11:39 am
….Did competent counsel not advise Dr. Mann that in filing this suit against the defendants, all of his work would be subject to discovery in order to explore the legitimate substantive defense that their assertions regarding Dr. Mann had been nothing more than truthful statements about his conduct?
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It is worse than that. Mann sued Dr. Ball Apr 8, 2011 He went though all sorts of gyrations to escape Discovery in THAT SUIT. There is now way in hades the guy is ignorant of the process at this point. He just likes to intimidate people with his free lawyers. In other words Mikey is a bully.
Time for the “yeah, so grow a pair defense.”
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hunter says:
August 19, 2013 at 11:27 am
Read the filing. They call the ruling against the dismissal motion ‘well reasoned’ apparently with a straight face.
The judge made two very dubious factual conclusions in her SLAPP ruling 1) that Mann had be investigated 8 time and been exonerated – actually only two times and 2) that subsequent studies have proven Mann’s work to be “accurate”.
A second point is that while the the DC court has a strong anti-slapp provision, the judge ruled in Mann’s favor which is unlikely to get reversed on appeal. Therefore the case goes to a jury in made up of peers from DC. While the general US population has approximately half question the validity of AGW, virtually everyone in DC embraces the concept.
Quoting from memory
“Mann is the Jerry Sandusky of climate science, instead of molesting children, he molested data. ”
The NSF report which supposedly exonerated him stated that Mann selectively chose which data sets to include and selectively chose the statistical methods employed.
It’s time Mann et al line up to have their CO2 emitting lungs removed. Fair policy.
In order to bait, lecture, harass-with-words a person, you have to be in contact with that person. So somehow he has been forced to read, listen to or otherwise be part of a conversation in which these things were done. Since no one has been sitting in his office talking at him, or standing outside his windows with a bullhorn, I can’t see any “baiting” or other verbal or written action that he has compelled upon him.
Mann may not like the statements made about him and his work, and may feel some of them are defamatory, but any baiting or any such action is only in his mind.
He is whining to the school principal that kids are making fun of him.
In other words, “It wasn’t my fault! He made me do it!”
Yeah, right. That’s not an adult’s argument, that shows all the reasoning of a three year-old. And Michael Mann claims to be a scientist?
Facts? We ain’t got no facts! I don’t have to show you no stinking facts!!
It does seem to fit. ;-))
So, true. Mann is too good to be true for anyone seeking (rightful or not) to discredit climate warming. After all, he is just another guy publishing bad science. And most of these, by far, return to the shadows once they collect the allegorical check. He just couldn’t resist the lure of the candelabra and, well, here he still is, begging for attention.
More Mannatee, than baitee.
He is just climate disaster master baiter himself.
It seems everyone is missing the point – it was the defendants that asked for the dismissal, not Mann. When I see comments like
or
it is obvious that many people are not reading the brief.
Actually, he is making fun of them for baiting him and now trying to run away.
Basically, if they wanted to see his papers in discovery, then why are they trying to stop this before they have seen anything?
I think the cartoon also has this backwards — or am I the one who is confused?
This is all very amusing and we always root for justice to be served but regardless of these sort of antics, as well as the propaganda, rhetoric and misleading to, at times completely false statements about weather, climate, CO2, plants and creatures on this planet………….you can hide/or try to disguise the mounting, powerful empirical evidence from the legit science world for only so long.
Biased scientists, politicians and alarmists can give it their best shot but in the end, both sides/everyone will be overwhelmed by the forces controlling/effecting our climate..
The sun isn’t going anywhere and will outlast all of us X 1 billion. Same with the oceans and atmosphere………..including how we do and don’t effect them.
Theories, guesses and speculation only count until those massive entities speak to us long enough through the language of measurable empirical data.
Just so sad to see so much damage happening before the science really is settled.
Clearly, if one side is right, then the other side has done horrendous damage.
Again, the unbiased judges will be telling us who is right over the next decade. Measure, interpret and listen!
Gail Combs says:It is worse than that. Mann sued Dr. Ball Apr 8, 2011 He went though all sorts of gyrations to escape Discovery in THAT SUIT. There is now way in hades the guy is ignorant of the process at this point. He just likes to intimidate people with his free lawyers. In other words Mikey is a bully.
I Had a twitter chat with mr.mann and asked him about Dr.Ball and he told me it is still held up in discovery ,I’m sure Dr.Ball is not dragging his feet.
Lorne50
Tying the ‘baitee’ theme with the facial hair, shouldn’t the title of the cartoon be “The Tethered Goatee”?
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No. He’s still trying to play the victim. “It’s not my fault I’m such an A-ho…”
He’s no longer a respected part of the “consensus” even among the “consensus”. His antics are now part of the “smoke and mirrors” department.
One or two open and honest debates would show just what kind of climate “expert” he is. Heck, he even even does the “duck and cover” maneuver in the Q&A part of his presentations!
I think this is probably procedural, but also I think the claim of baiting to gain legal discovery over his work is designed to help him avoid discovery later
Like you have to bait a junk yard dog.