EPIC weather reportng FAIL at International Business Times

I would not have believed this unless I had seen it with my own eyes. Below is the screencap. There are just no words for this level of stupid.

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Source: http://www.ibtimes.com/tropical-storm-flossie-2-dead-north-carolina-after-flossie-barrels-through-us-mainland-storm-touches

(Yes the story is STILL THERE)

Meanwhile back in reality, the Baltimore Sun gets it right (as if that is hard):

The former tropical storms Dorian and Flossie are similarly facing unfavorable conditions thousands of miles apart, making it unlikely either will regenerate into tropical cyclones.

Dorian, which late last week was tracking toward the Bahamas with 60 mph winds, had a 20 percent chance of regaining tropical storm strength within the next 48 hours, National Hurricane Center forecasters said Tuesday morning. The storm’s remnants were disorganized thunderstorms a few hundred miles east and northeast of Turks and Caicos.

Flossie passed over the Hawaiian islands Monday, weakening into a tropical depression. Forecasters expect the storm to remain a depression for the next day or so, but to dissipate within three days.

The flooding in North Carolina was caused by flash flooding from a line of thunderstorms:

A series of thunderstorms moving across western North Carolina has triggered what meteorologists are calling major flash flooding. The Charlotte Observer reported that parts of Catawba and surrounding counties were under water Saturday.

http://www.charlottestar.com/index.php/sid/216080732/scat/a6c0447118ba14fb

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POST-TROPICAL CYCLONE FLOSSIE DISCUSSION NUMBER 23

NWS CENTRAL PACIFIC HURRICANE CENTER HONOLULU HI EP062013

500 AM HST TUE JUL 30 2013

FLOSSIE HAS WEAKENED TO A POST-TROPICAL REMNANT LOW. SATELLITE AND

RADAR DATA AND SURFACE OBSERVATIONS SHOW NEITHER A WELL-DEFINED

CIRCULATION CENTER NOR ANY WELL-ORGANIZED CONVECTION. IT IS NOT

CERTAIN THAT THERE IS EVEN STILL A LOW PRESSURE CENTER AT ALL.

OUTFLOW BOUNDARIES ASSOCIATED WITH A BURST OF CONVECTION DURING THE

EVENING MAY HAVE DISRUPTED THE CIRCULATION. AN OSCAT PASS AT 1045

UTC SUGGESTS THE SYSTEM HAS OPENED UP INTO A TROUGH. THE REMNANT

LOW OR TROUGH WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE WEST AT 10 TO 15 KT AND WEAKEN.

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT  30/1500Z 22.3N 159.8W   25 KT  30 MPH

 12H  31/0000Z 22.6N 161.0W   20 KT  25 MPH...DISSIPATING

 24H  31/1200Z DISSIPATED$$

FORECASTER DONALDSON
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GlynnMhor

Clearly a little problem with geographical knowledge here…

Mark Bofill

Oh, picky picky! It made good copy!
/sarc

David

So Much Hot Air, but it is coming from Donaldson!

And you thought that only CO2 had supernatural powers. Hurricanes, even weak ones, can morph into superstorms that can leap tall continents in a single bound!

Mark Bofill

Was the storm ‘barrelling through the US mainland’ to hit Hawaii supposed to be because of AGW? Ladies and gentlemen – another miracle, praise CO2, another miracle!

SOMEONE has to hold down the left side of a ‘Bell curve’ *; we now have our representative in this category.
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* A Gaussian function, a specific kind of function whose graph is a bell-shaped curve.
See also: “The Bell Curve: Intelligence and Class Structure in American Life”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bell_Curve
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Warmists will believe anything ….

Gene Selkov

Let the coachman know geography. It’s not a noble thing to know.

Stevec

No doubt they verified the facts with their meteorological expert Mo War Ming!

Ian W

Teleconnection?

The first sentence now reads Two people in North Carolina were killed over the weekend when Tropical Storm Flossie heavy rains flooded the Piedmont area, prompting officials to declare a state of emergency.
There’s still a fair amount of confusion trying to blend two stories into one (and the headline writer helps by including a tornado with Storm Touches Down In Hawaii).

Onlooker

This is really a head scratcher. Surely there’s no way that idiot really thought this was accurate in any way. It reads like The Onion; as a parody of CAGW alarmism.
Bizarre in any case.

A good discussion of the “Dorian saga” is here: http://sunriseswansong.wordpress.com/2013/07/29/dorians-ghost-still-haunting/

WOW! A storm that passed all the way across the mainland and then reformed off the pacific coast would be something! Sorry I missed it. I was snoozing.

polistra

Flossie got caught up in a Sharknado, and the sharks gently lowered it back down after it passed over California.

RT

So these are the people writing the “it’s global warming, stupid” articles? Makes sense.

tadchem

It’s called ‘multitasking’ – talking about several different thinkgs at once, in the same sentence. It is also called ‘political rhetoric’ or ‘dissociative schizophrenia’ in other contexts. 🙂

ZootCadillac

Story has gone now and the url has altered to http://www.ibtimes.com/do-not-publish-tropical-storm-flossie-2-dead-north-carolina-after-flossie-barrels-through-us-1362291
I hope they thanked you for the education.

Just tried the original. Access is now denied. Shame that nothing ever dies on the net.

M Courtney

Come on.
This is just a complete muck up by someone who was having a bad day.
We all have bad days sometimes.
These guys got a little geographically mixed up. No big problem.
My thoughts are with the families of the two real victims of the weather in the US.

lowercasefred

If the author has the correct socio/political opinions or belongs to a protected group one can be sure that his/her hand is being held and comforting words are being cooed, “Everybody makes mistakes, you’ll do better next time.”

Duncan

Is it a new thing to describe flooding as flash flooding? Surely flooding is always rapid by the nature of it? Well most of the time anyway. Is this flash business all just part of the climate change narrative?

John West

We’re actually in a flood drought here in NC:
http://ncpedia.org/climate/floods
No doubt the decreasing trend in floods is due to Global Warming. (/sarc)

Don

Did Obama fire his speech writers?

dccowboy

That baby was traveling FAST to be able to flood North Carolina on Saturday and hit Hawaii on Monday ~ 4,719 miles in 48 hours ~ 98mph. Is that a new speed record for a tropical storm?
They say ‘The Stupid, it burns’ but, in this case it burns like the interior of the earth (At Al Gore’s temperatures). 🙂

Tom in Florida

Obviously Carey Vanderborg (by line) is a blonde. Carey only missed it by……. that much.

milodonharlani

With news media like these, who needs comedians?

Quick question: In these turbulent times of weather pattern change, has there been any Hurricanes yet this year?

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gary turner

Duncan says:
July 30, 2013 at 12:10 pm
Is it a new thing to describe flooding as flash flooding? Surely flooding is always rapid by the nature of it?
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Not at all. Most flooding occurs as an overall rise in waters as from a lengthy/heavy rain. Flash floods are commonly the result of heavy rains on the watershed causing excessive runoff to create a sudden rise in creek and river levels. Since the flooding may occur where it’s not even raining, by simply being downstream, it can be especially dangerous. Rains in hilly or mountainous terrain can cause terrible destruction in the downstream flatlands.
cheers,
gary

clipe

Nobody notice that there might be Sum Ting Wong with their sources?
Ho Lee Fuk!
http://www.christianpost.com/news/ktvu-producers-fired-for-naming-asiana-sf-crash-pilot-as-sum-ting-wong-wi-tu-lo-video-100933/
Bang Ding Ow on some heads to follow.

Traditionally the titles/headlines were created by the EDITORS, not the reporters. (Something which makes this even funnier while also scarier.)

Resourceguy

Send them a boat load of money for mass transit and high speed rail. They deserve it for the climate damage they suffered. And that is just the warm up for the next real storm. Testing, Testing

dp

State University of New York at Plattsburgh owes somebody a refund and apology though it seems clear Carey should probably have been a deserving exception to the No Child Left Behind policy so as to not become the embarrassment he is.
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/carey-vanderborg/31/14b/a60

@ Duncan: Flash Flooding and Flooding are indeed separate phenomena and have been for a long time; it’s not a CAGW thing.
Flash flooding is typically related to exceptional heavy and possibly highly localized rainfall events; they can be very, fast, on the order of tens of minutes, as opposed to hours. Normally low or dry river beds may, for example, suddenly fill and overtop their banks, or low-lying areas may fill because the drainage system (often designed for a particular storm, such as a 10-year statistical return period and at some “one-hour” average rainfall intensity) can’t cope with the significantly greater rainfall event that only happens less frequently (again, on a statistical basis). The Trinity River in the Dallas-Ft Worth Metroplex is subject to flash flooding, as I recall, as are other areas. Flash floods may result from a particularly intense thunderstorm, but that same storm is unlikely to trigger traditional flooding, which is usually a buildup of water levels over a period of many hours or days. Note that designing for larger storms gets hugely expensive very fast.
Flash flooding in the Cincinnati area about a decade ago caused a number of deaths as car engines flooded out and occupied vehicles were swept away, or their occupants were overpowered by water flow crossing a roadway when they attempted to flee on foot. We also had in that particular set of storms, very many homes with indoor pools where there used to be basements. In one case, the water came into the house so fast that the teenager who had been sleeping there lost her life because the water rose so fast she could not get to and up the stairs (in the dark after the power failed).

TRM


Why does AGW headlines remind me of this all the time?

PaulH

This reminds me of that classic John Belushi speech from 1978’s ‘Animal House’…
“Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbour?!”
“Germans?” “Forget it, he’s rolling.”
Don’t let a poor sense of geography get in the way of a big story.
(snark)

Fred from Canuckistan

Mann have a new job?
Or Hansen?

I spent the weekend in Catawba County (Newton) this weekend. No one mentioned that very heavy rain and flooding was caused by a Pacific tropical storm. My kids would have been much more impressed that they knew were navigating roads flooded by Flossie than a mean line of thunderstorms.
At least the local weather folks got it right.
I’m not sure about NC’s flood drought, but Newton got a lot of rain over the July 4 weekend, with, I believe, minor flooding. It’s been a bit wetter this summer than in the past few.

John Blake

This just in: Chelyabinsk meteor strike drops boatloads of Japanese carp directly on North Carolina weather forecasters. Commentators assert, “Global Climate Models forecast just this event, aggravated by flatulence in newsroom areas off-limits to FOI requests.”

IanE

Some weird new quantum effect, I imagine.

H.R.

Got the planet right. Give ’em props where they are due ;o)

stevenlibby

Living in the upstate of SC, I believe this line of storms went through our area too and our boys, along with a friend, couldn’t resist playing in the flooded stream in our back yard…with significant supervision and *after* it had gone down a lot!comment image
The storm and flooding came up very quickly.

jones

Hmmm……
Butterfly flaps it’s wings in the Amazon……the giant red spot on Jupiter gets a bit bigger..er or summat…

tz2026

Do we have a “picture of Dorian Grey”scale?
I didn’t know Teleportation was a reality.
Flossie sounds like she could get between my teeth.

clipe
clipe

clipe says:
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July 30, 2013 at 3:20 pm
Anthony, as per ZootCadillac says:
July 30, 2013 at 11:59 am
[http://www.ibtimes.com/do-not-publish-tropical-storm-flossie-2-dead-north-carolina-after-flossie-barrels-through-us-1362291]

Gary Hladik

Carey Vanderborg’s next job will be Federal judge! 🙂