EPIC weather reportng FAIL at International Business Times

I would not have believed this unless I had seen it with my own eyes. Below is the screencap. There are just no words for this level of stupid.

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Source: http://www.ibtimes.com/tropical-storm-flossie-2-dead-north-carolina-after-flossie-barrels-through-us-mainland-storm-touches

(Yes the story is STILL THERE)

Meanwhile back in reality, the Baltimore Sun gets it right (as if that is hard):

The former tropical storms Dorian and Flossie are similarly facing unfavorable conditions thousands of miles apart, making it unlikely either will regenerate into tropical cyclones.

Dorian, which late last week was tracking toward the Bahamas with 60 mph winds, had a 20 percent chance of regaining tropical storm strength within the next 48 hours, National Hurricane Center forecasters said Tuesday morning. The storm’s remnants were disorganized thunderstorms a few hundred miles east and northeast of Turks and Caicos.

Flossie passed over the Hawaiian islands Monday, weakening into a tropical depression. Forecasters expect the storm to remain a depression for the next day or so, but to dissipate within three days.

The flooding in North Carolina was caused by flash flooding from a line of thunderstorms:

A series of thunderstorms moving across western North Carolina has triggered what meteorologists are calling major flash flooding. The Charlotte Observer reported that parts of Catawba and surrounding counties were under water Saturday.

http://www.charlottestar.com/index.php/sid/216080732/scat/a6c0447118ba14fb

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POST-TROPICAL CYCLONE FLOSSIE DISCUSSION NUMBER 23

NWS CENTRAL PACIFIC HURRICANE CENTER HONOLULU HI EP062013

500 AM HST TUE JUL 30 2013

FLOSSIE HAS WEAKENED TO A POST-TROPICAL REMNANT LOW. SATELLITE AND

RADAR DATA AND SURFACE OBSERVATIONS SHOW NEITHER A WELL-DEFINED

CIRCULATION CENTER NOR ANY WELL-ORGANIZED CONVECTION. IT IS NOT

CERTAIN THAT THERE IS EVEN STILL A LOW PRESSURE CENTER AT ALL.

OUTFLOW BOUNDARIES ASSOCIATED WITH A BURST OF CONVECTION DURING THE

EVENING MAY HAVE DISRUPTED THE CIRCULATION. AN OSCAT PASS AT 1045

UTC SUGGESTS THE SYSTEM HAS OPENED UP INTO A TROUGH. THE REMNANT

LOW OR TROUGH WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE WEST AT 10 TO 15 KT AND WEAKEN.

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT  30/1500Z 22.3N 159.8W   25 KT  30 MPH

 12H  31/0000Z 22.6N 161.0W   20 KT  25 MPH...DISSIPATING

 24H  31/1200Z DISSIPATED$$

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Tom in Florida
July 30, 2013 12:24 pm

Obviously Carey Vanderborg (by line) is a blonde. Carey only missed it by……. that much.

milodonharlani
July 30, 2013 12:27 pm

With news media like these, who needs comedians?

July 30, 2013 12:37 pm

Quick question: In these turbulent times of weather pattern change, has there been any Hurricanes yet this year?

gary turner
July 30, 2013 12:45 pm

Duncan says:
July 30, 2013 at 12:10 pm
Is it a new thing to describe flooding as flash flooding? Surely flooding is always rapid by the nature of it?
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Not at all. Most flooding occurs as an overall rise in waters as from a lengthy/heavy rain. Flash floods are commonly the result of heavy rains on the watershed causing excessive runoff to create a sudden rise in creek and river levels. Since the flooding may occur where it’s not even raining, by simply being downstream, it can be especially dangerous. Rains in hilly or mountainous terrain can cause terrible destruction in the downstream flatlands.
cheers,
gary

clipe
July 30, 2013 12:46 pm

Nobody notice that there might be Sum Ting Wong with their sources?
Ho Lee Fuk!
http://www.christianpost.com/news/ktvu-producers-fired-for-naming-asiana-sf-crash-pilot-as-sum-ting-wong-wi-tu-lo-video-100933/
Bang Ding Ow on some heads to follow.

July 30, 2013 12:46 pm

Traditionally the titles/headlines were created by the EDITORS, not the reporters. (Something which makes this even funnier while also scarier.)

Resourceguy
July 30, 2013 1:01 pm

Send them a boat load of money for mass transit and high speed rail. They deserve it for the climate damage they suffered. And that is just the warm up for the next real storm. Testing, Testing

dp
July 30, 2013 1:02 pm

State University of New York at Plattsburgh owes somebody a refund and apology though it seems clear Carey should probably have been a deserving exception to the No Child Left Behind policy so as to not become the embarrassment he is.
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/carey-vanderborg/31/14b/a60

July 30, 2013 1:02 pm

Duncan: Flash Flooding and Flooding are indeed separate phenomena and have been for a long time; it’s not a CAGW thing.
Flash flooding is typically related to exceptional heavy and possibly highly localized rainfall events; they can be very, fast, on the order of tens of minutes, as opposed to hours. Normally low or dry river beds may, for example, suddenly fill and overtop their banks, or low-lying areas may fill because the drainage system (often designed for a particular storm, such as a 10-year statistical return period and at some “one-hour” average rainfall intensity) can’t cope with the significantly greater rainfall event that only happens less frequently (again, on a statistical basis). The Trinity River in the Dallas-Ft Worth Metroplex is subject to flash flooding, as I recall, as are other areas. Flash floods may result from a particularly intense thunderstorm, but that same storm is unlikely to trigger traditional flooding, which is usually a buildup of water levels over a period of many hours or days. Note that designing for larger storms gets hugely expensive very fast.
Flash flooding in the Cincinnati area about a decade ago caused a number of deaths as car engines flooded out and occupied vehicles were swept away, or their occupants were overpowered by water flow crossing a roadway when they attempted to flee on foot. We also had in that particular set of storms, very many homes with indoor pools where there used to be basements. In one case, the water came into the house so fast that the teenager who had been sleeping there lost her life because the water rose so fast she could not get to and up the stairs (in the dark after the power failed).

TRM
July 30, 2013 1:12 pm


Why does AGW headlines remind me of this all the time?

PaulH
July 30, 2013 1:18 pm

This reminds me of that classic John Belushi speech from 1978’s ‘Animal House’…
“Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbour?!”
“Germans?” “Forget it, he’s rolling.”
Don’t let a poor sense of geography get in the way of a big story.
(snark)

Fred from Canuckistan
July 30, 2013 1:22 pm

Mann have a new job?
Or Hansen?

Bob
July 30, 2013 1:26 pm

I spent the weekend in Catawba County (Newton) this weekend. No one mentioned that very heavy rain and flooding was caused by a Pacific tropical storm. My kids would have been much more impressed that they knew were navigating roads flooded by Flossie than a mean line of thunderstorms.
At least the local weather folks got it right.
I’m not sure about NC’s flood drought, but Newton got a lot of rain over the July 4 weekend, with, I believe, minor flooding. It’s been a bit wetter this summer than in the past few.

John Blake
July 30, 2013 1:29 pm

This just in: Chelyabinsk meteor strike drops boatloads of Japanese carp directly on North Carolina weather forecasters. Commentators assert, “Global Climate Models forecast just this event, aggravated by flatulence in newsroom areas off-limits to FOI requests.”

IanE
July 30, 2013 1:35 pm

Some weird new quantum effect, I imagine.

H.R.
July 30, 2013 1:49 pm

Got the planet right. Give ’em props where they are due ;o)

stevenlibby
July 30, 2013 2:00 pm

Living in the upstate of SC, I believe this line of storms went through our area too and our boys, along with a friend, couldn’t resist playing in the flooded stream in our back yard…with significant supervision and *after* it had gone down a lot!comment image
The storm and flooding came up very quickly.

jones
July 30, 2013 2:14 pm

Hmmm……
Butterfly flaps it’s wings in the Amazon……the giant red spot on Jupiter gets a bit bigger..er or summat…

tz2026
July 30, 2013 2:28 pm

Do we have a “picture of Dorian Grey”scale?
I didn’t know Teleportation was a reality.
Flossie sounds like she could get between my teeth.

clipe
July 30, 2013 3:20 pm
clipe
July 30, 2013 3:21 pm

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July 30, 2013 at 3:20 pm
Anthony, as per ZootCadillac says:
July 30, 2013 at 11:59 am
[http://www.ibtimes.com/do-not-publish-tropical-storm-flossie-2-dead-north-carolina-after-flossie-barrels-through-us-1362291]

Gary Hladik
July 30, 2013 3:37 pm

Carey Vanderborg’s next job will be Federal judge! 🙂