Congenital Cyclomania Redux

Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach

Well, I wasn’t going to mention this paper, but it seems to be getting some play in the blogosphere. Our friend Nicola Scafetta is back again, this time with a paper called “Solar and planetary oscillation control on climate change: hind-cast, forecast and a comparison with the CMIP5 GCMs”. He’s posted it up over at Tallbloke’s Talkshop. Since I’m banned over at Tallbloke’s, I thought I’d discuss it here. The paper itself is here, take your Dramamine before jumping on board. Dr. Scafetta has posted here on WUWT several times before, each time with his latest, greatest, new improved model. Here’s how well Scafetta’s even more latester, greatester new model hindcasts, as well as what it predicts, compared with HadCRUT4:

scafetta harmonic variabilityFigure 1. Figure 16A from Scafetta 2013. This shows his harmonic model alone (black), plus his model added to the average of the CMIP5 models following three different future “Representative Concentration Pathways”, or RCPs. The RCPs give various specified future concentrations of greenhouse gases. HadCRUT4 global surface temperature (GST) is in gray.

So far, in each of his previous three posts on WUWT, Dr. Scafetta has said that the Earth’s surface temperature is ruled by a different combination of cycles depending on the post:

First Post: 20 and 60 year cycles. These were supposed to be related to some astronomical cycles which were never made clear, albeit there was much mumbling about Jupiter and Saturn.

Second Post: 9.1, 10-11, 20 and 60 year cycles. Here are the claims made for these cycles:

9.1 years : this was justified as being sort of near to a calculation of (2X+Y)/4, where X and Y are lunar precession cycles,

“10-11″ years: he never said where he got this one, or why it’s so vague.

20 years: supposedly close to an average of the sun’s barycentric velocity period.

60 years: kinda like three times the synodic period of Jupiter/Saturn. Why three times? Why not?

Third Post9.98, 10.9, and 11.86 year cycles. These are claimed to be

9.98 years: slightly different from a long-term average of the spring tidal period of Jupiter and Saturn.

10.9 years: may be related to a quasi 11-year solar cycle … or not.

11.86 years: Jupiter’s sidereal period.

The latest post, however, is simply unbeatable. It has no less than six different cycles, with periods of 9.1, 10.2, 21, 61, 115, and 983 years. I haven’t dared inquire too closely as to the antecedents of those choices, although I do love the “3” in the 983 year cycle. Plus there’s a mystery ingredient, of course.

Seriously, he’s adding together six different cycles. Órale, that’s a lot! Now, each of those cycles has three different parameters that totally define the cycle. These are the period (wavelength), the amplitude (size), and the phase (starting point in time) of the cycle.

This means that not only is Scafetta exercising free choice in the number of cycles that he includes (in this case six). He also has free choice over the three parameters for each cycle (period, amplitude, and phase). That gives him no less than 18 separate tunable parameters.

Just roll that around in your mouth and taste it, “eighteen tunable parameters”. Is there anything that you couldn’t hindcast given 18 different tunable parameters?

Anyhow, if I were handing out awards, I’d certainly give him the first award for having eighteen arbitrary parameters. But then, I’d have to give him another award for his mystery ingredient.

Because of all things, the mystery ingredient in Scafetta’s equation is the average hindcast (and forecast) modeled temperature of the CMIP5 climate models. Plus the mystery ingredient comes with its own amplitude parameter (0.45), along with a hidden parameter for the zero point of the average model temperatures before being multiplied by the amplitude parameter. So that makes twenty different adjustable parameters.

Now, I don’t even know what to say about this method. I’m dumbfounded. He’s starting with the average of the CMIP5 climate models, adjusted by an amplitude parameter and a zeroing parameter. Then he’s figuring the deviations from that adjusted average model result based on his separate 6-cycle, 18-parameter model. The sum of the two is his prediction. I truly lack words to describe that, it’s such an awesome logical jump I can only shake my head in awe at the daring trapeze leaps of faith …

I suppose at this point I need to quote the story again of Freeman Dyson, Enrico Fermi, “Johnny” Von Neumann, and the elephant. Here is Freeman Dyson, with the tale of tragedy:

By the spring of 1953, after heroic efforts, we had plotted theoretical graphs of meson–proton scattering.We joyfully observed that our calculated numbers agreed pretty well with Fermi’s measured numbers. So I made an appointment to meet with Fermi and show him our results. Proudly, I rode the Greyhound bus from Ithaca to Chicago with a package of our theoretical graphs to show to Fermi.

When I arrived in Fermi’s office, I handed the graphs to Fermi, but he hardly glanced at them. He invited me to sit down, and  asked me in a friendly way about the health of my wife and our newborn baby son, now fifty years old. Then he delivered his verdict in a quiet, even voice.

“There are two ways of doing calculations in theoretical physics”, he said. “One way, and this is the way I prefer, is to have a clear physical picture of the process that you are calculating. The other way is to have a precise and self-consistent mathematical formalism. You have neither.”

I was slightly stunned, but ventured to ask him why he did not consider the pseudoscalar meson theory to be a self-consistent mathematical formalism. He replied, “Quantum electrodynamics is a good theory because the forces are weak, and when the formalism is ambiguous we have a clear physical picture to guide us.With the pseudoscalar meson theory there is no physical picture, and the forces are so strong that nothing converges. To reach your calculated results, you had to introduce arbitrary cut-off procedures that are not based either on solid physics or on solid mathematics.”

In desperation I asked Fermi whether he was not impressed by the agreement between our calculated numbers and his measured numbers. He replied, “How many arbitrary parameters did you use for your calculations?” I thought for a moment about our cut-off procedures and said, “Four.” He said, “I remember my friend Johnny von Neumann used to say, with four parameters I can fit an elephant, and with five I can make him wiggle his trunk.”

With that, the conversation was over. I thanked Fermi for his time and trouble, and sadly took the next bus back to Ithaca to tell the bad news to the students.

Given that lesson from Dyson, and bearing in mind that Scafetta is using a total of 20 arbitrary parameters … are we supposed to be surprised that Nicola can make an elephant wiggle his trunk? Heck, with that many parameters, he should be able to make that sucker tap dance and spit pickle juice …

Now, you can expect that if Nicola Scafetta shows up, he will argue that somehow the 20 different parameters are not arbitrary, oh, no, they are fixed by the celestial processes. They will likely put forward the same kind of half-ast-ronomical explanation  they’ve used before—that this one represents (2X+Y)/4, where X and Y are lunar precession cycles, or that another one’s 60 year cycle is kind of near three times the synodic period of Jupiter and Saturn (59.5766 years) and close is good enough, that kind of thing. Or perhaps they’ll make the argument that Fourier analysis shows peaks that are sort of near to their chosen numbers, and that’s all that’s needed.

The reality is, if you give me a period in years, I can soon come up with several astronomical cycles that can be added, subtracted, and divided to give you something very near the period you’ve given me … which proves nothing.

Scafetta has free choice of how many cycles to include, and free choice as to the length, amplitude, and phase of each those cycles. And even if he can show that the length of one of his cycles is EXACTLY equal to some astronomical constant, not just kind of near it, he still has totally free choice of phase and amplitude for that cycle. So to date, he’s the leading contender for the 2013 Johnny Von Neumann award, which is given for the most tunable parameters in any scientific study.

The other award I’d give this paper would be for Scafetta’s magical Figure 11, which I reproduce below in all its original glory.

kepler trigon II

Figure 2. Scafetta’s Figure 11 (click to enlarge) ORIGINAL CAPTION: (Left) Schematic representation of the rise and fall of several civilizations since Neolithic times that well correlates with the 14C radio- nucleotide records used for estimating solar activity (adapted from Eddy’s figures in Refs. [90, 91]). Correlated solar-climate multisecular and millennial patterns are recently confirmed [43, 44, 47]. (Right) Kepler’s Trigon diagram of the great Jupiter and Saturn conjunctions between 1583 to 1763 [89], highlighting 20 year and 60 year astronomical cycles, and a slow millennial rotation. 

First off, does that graphic, Figure 11 in Scafetta’s opus, make you feel better or worse about Dr. Scafetta’s claims? Does it give you that warm fuzzy feeling about his science? And why are Kepler’s features smooched out sideways and his fingers so long? At least let me give the poor fellow back his original physiognomy.

kepler painting

There, that’s better. Next, you need to consider the stepwise changes he shows in “carbon 14”, and the square-wave nature of the advance and retreat of alpine glaciers at the lower left. That in itself was good, I hadn’t realized that the glaciers advanced and retreated in that regular a fashion, or that carbon 14 was unchanged for years before and after each shift in concentration. And I did appreciate that there were no units for any of the four separate graphs on the page, that counted heavily in his favor. But what I awarded him full style points for was the seamless segue from alpine glaciers to the “winter severity index” in the year 1000 … that was a breathtaking leap.

And as you might expect from a man citing Kepler, Scafetta treats scientific information like fine wine—he doesn’t want anything of recent vintage. Apparently on his planet you have to let science mellow for some decades before you bring it out to breathe … and in that regard, I direct your attention to the citation in the bottom center of his Figure 11, “Source: Geophysical Data, J. Biddy J. B. Eddy (USA) 1978″. (Thanks to Nicola for the correction, the print was too small to read.)

Where he stepped up to the big leagues, though, is in the top line in the chart. Click on the chart to enlarge it if you haven’t done so yet, so you can see all the amazing details. The “Sumeric Maximum”, the collapse of Machu Pichu, the “Greek Minimum”, the end of the Maya civilization, the “Pyramid Maximum” … talk about being “Homeric in scope”, he’s even got the “Homeric Minimum”.

Finally, he highlights the “20 year and 60 year astronomical cycles” in Kepler’s chart at the right. In fact, what he calls the “20 year” cycles shown in Kepler’s dates at the right vary from 10 to 30 years according to Kepler’s own figures shown inside the circle, and what he calls the “60 year astronomical cycles” include cycles from 50 to 70 years …

In any case, I’m posting all of this because I just thought folks might like to know of Nicola Scafetta’s latest stunning success. Using a mere six cycles and only twenty tunable parameters plus the average of a bunch of climate models, he has emulated the historical record with pretty darn good accuracy.

And now that he has explained just exactly how to predict the climate into the future, I guess the only mystery left is what he’ll do for an encore performance. Because this most recent paper of his, this one will be very hard to top.

In all seriousness, however, let me make my position clear.

Are there cycles in the climate? Yes, there are cycles. However, they are not regular, clockwork cycles like those of Jupiter and Saturn. Instead, one cycle will appear, and will be around for a while, and then disappear to be replaced by some longer or shorter cycle. It is maddening, frustrating, but that’s the chaotic nature of the beast. The Pacific Decadal Oscillation doesn’t beat like a clock, nor does the El Nino or the Madden-Julian oscillation or any other climate phenomena.

What is the longest cycle that can be detected in a hundred year dataset? My rule of thumb is that even if I have two full cycles, my results are too uncertain to lean on. I want three cycles so I can at least get a sense about the variation. So for a hundred year dataset, any cycle over fifty years in length is a non-starter, and thirty-three years and shorter is what I will start to trust.

Can you successfully hindcast temperatures using other cycles than the ones Scafetta uses? Certainly. He has demonstrated that himself, as this is the fourth combination of arbitrarily chosen cycles that he has used. Note that in each case he has claimed the model was successful. This by no means exhausts the possible cycle combinations that can successfully emulate the historical temperature.

Does Scafetta’s accomplishment mean anything? Sure. It means that with six cycles and no less than twenty tunable parameters, you can do just about anything. Other than that, no. It is meaningless.

Could he actually test his findings? Sure, and I’ve suggested it to him. What you need to do is run the analysis again, but this time using the data from say 1910 to 1959 only. Derive your 20 fitted variables using this data alone.

Then test your 20 fitted variables against the data from 1960 to 2009, and see how the variables pan out.

Then do it the other way around. Train the model on the later data, and see how well it does on the early data. It’s not hard to do. He knows how to do it. But if he has ever done it, I have not seen anywhere that he has reported the results.

How do I know all this? Folks, I can’t tell you how many late nights I’ve spent trying to fit any number and combination of cycles to the historical climate data. I’ve used Fourier analysis and periodicity analysis and machine-learning algorithms and wavelets and stuff I’ve invented myself. Whenever I’ve thought I have something, as soon as it leaves the training data and starts on the out-of-sample data, it starts to diverge from reality. And of course, the divergence increases over time.

But that’s simply the same truth we all know about computer weather forecasting programs—out-of-sample, they don’t do all that well, and quickly become little better than a coin flip.

Finally, even if the cycles fit the data and we ignore the ridiculous number of arbitrary parameters, where is the physical mechanism connecting some (2*X+T)/4 combination of two astronomical cycles, and the climate? As Enrico Fermi pointed out, you need to have either “a clear physical picture of the process that you are calculating” or a precise and self-consistent mathematical formalism”. 

w.

PS—Please don’t write in to say that although Nicola is wrong, you have the proper combination of cycles, based on your special calculations. Also, please don’t try to explain how a cycle of 21 years is really, really similar to the Jupiter-Saturn synodic cycle of 19+ years. I’m not buying cycles of any kind, motorcycles, epicycles, solar cycles, bicycles, circadian cycles, nothing. Sorry. Save them for some other post, they won’t go bad, but please don’t post them here.

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July 23, 2013 11:48 pm

For the records.
Willis Eschenbach has shown Dr. Scafetta’s Figure 11:
“Figure 2. Scafetta’s Figure 11 (click to enlarge) ORIGINAL CAPTION: (Left) Schematic representation of the rise and fall of several civilizations since Neolithic times that well correlates with the 14C radio- nucleotide records used for estimating solar activity (adapted from Eddy’s figures in Refs. [90, 91]).
The complex near 900 year period in the Eddy’s 14C figure I have overlayed with the two solar tide functions of Pluto/Neptun plus Quaoar/Pluto back in time 5000 years in this graph created 26th February 2010 :
http://www.volker-doormann.org/images/ghi_23_eddy.gif
Because the strength of the solar tidal force is a square root function of the tide frequency the strength of the near 900 year solar tide period of Quaoar/Pluto is 2 times that of the 246 year solar tide time period of Pluto/Neptun. The solar tide period is t = 1/[2 * (|f1-f2|)], while f1 and f2 are the frequencies of the bodies.
If Dr. Scafetta now comes up with a 900 year cycle out of the box, when I have informed him years ago about my discovery without an answer, the history of this discovery on the 11th February 2010 should be known to anybody
Thank you, Anthony.
V.

Clive E. Birkland
July 23, 2013 11:55 pm

Willis Eschenbach says:
July 23, 2013 at 11:15 pm
How on earth would you know how hard I looked? That’s just hubristic posturing, you weren’t there when I was looking, you have no clue what I’ve done.
I have been watching your comments on this topic for years. At no time have you showed even a basic understanding.
Give me some detail on your knowledge, what major concept does Theo use to predict grand minima??

richard verney
July 23, 2013 11:55 pm

Willis Eschenbach says:
July 23, 2013 at 10:12 am
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I am well acquainted with the story of the elephant; heaven knows, it has been so often recounted. It might have been amusing the first time one heard, but after a dozen or more times it becomes rather stale. It is like a stand up comedian peddling the same old jokes that he was telling 20 years ago, and when challenged, claiming that the old ones are the best..
In fact, I would have thought that the majority of the readers of this blog were equally familiar with it, such that there was no need for you to recount the story at length, and to do so is an insult to their knowledge. It adds nothing as to whether some or all of the parameters used by Scaffeta are relevant and/or in some way determinative. It merely suggests that in some incidences there may be no more substance than mere coincidence.
You raise a valid underlying point but the article is marred by the tone. Your article might have been better had it briefly dealt with cyclomania and curve fitting, but then go on to focus on Mr Scafetta not dealing with your enquiries, not providing data and codes etc. That is just my opinion, and will therefore not be equally shared by all, but likewise it will be as valid as anyone elses.

July 23, 2013 11:56 pm

LBR says:
July 23, 2013 at 11:08 pm
But here have been lots of other dips in solar activity for the last 10,000 years, e.g. Figure 9 of http://www.leif.org/research/swsc130003p.pdf without any LIAs. First you claimed ‘the largest dips in the whole Holecene’, then you shortened that to 5000 years, and if you look at the dips the last 400 years, they are not particularly spectacular.

July 23, 2013 11:58 pm

The discussion continues. As I said above the interested readers should read my paper and not trust Willis comments. My paper can be downloaded from here
http://people.duke.edu/~ns2002/pdf/Scafetta_EE_2013.pdf
Willis comment is filled of errors also because he did not read my paper, he simply skimmed it, as I have already demonstrated above and also numerous people noted.
Very likely also Antony did not read it as he continuously repeats his Barycentric convinction ignoring the result from tidal forcings, electromagnetic forcings etc.And he did not note that my data and the equations are clearly written in the paper and easily accessible.
Willis continues with his handwave argument. At my challenge to try to predict the ocean tides that need much more astronomical harmonics (up to 40) than my 6, the only thing that he was able to do was to copy and past a list of tidal harmonics names from somewhere.
Try to do some homework, Willis. Take a tidal record with a sufficient resolution (e.g. 10 minutes) for a month, and let us see how you use it to predict the tides starting from nothing. Develop your own tidal theory from the beginning, do not use the recipes that were already developed. Start to identify the harmonics, from the data, try to give them a physical meaning and we will see whether or not you also will end up using a large number of oscillations.
I need to agree with Ian Wilson that Anthony, Willis and Leif are isolating themselves on this issue due to their inability to see how scientific things are moving around. New papers in the peer reviewed literature are coming out.

July 23, 2013 11:59 pm

Clive E. Birkland says:
July 23, 2013 at 11:55 pm
what major concept does Theo use to predict grand minima??
the golden ratio and the five fingers [giving us the middle finger as the maximum]:
http://bourabai.narod.ru/landscheidt/golden.htm
This is not science.

July 24, 2013 12:00 am

Leif Svalgaard says:
July 23, 2013 at 11:56 pm
But here have been lots of other dips in solar activity for the last 10,000 years, e.g. Figure 9 of http://www.leif.org/research/swsc130003p.pdf without any LIAs. First you claimed ‘the largest dips in the whole Holecene’, then you shortened that to 5000 years, and if you look at the dips the last 400 years, they are not particularly spectacular.

July 24, 2013 12:03 am

Willis
re: comment
Two primary spectral components (16.13 & 21.4 years) of the geomagnetic field change at core-mantle boundary (Jackson-ETHZ & Bloxham–Harvard data) produce the AMO’s periods from the sum and difference of the two relevant frequencies.

LBR
July 24, 2013 12:18 am

Leif Svalgaard says:
July 24, 2013 at 12:00 am
But here have been lots of other dips in solar activity for the last 10,000 years, e.g. Figure 9 of http://www.leif.org/research/swsc130003p.pdf without any LIAs. First you claimed ‘the largest dips in the whole Holecene’, then you shortened that to 5000 years, and if you look at the dips the last 400 years, they are not particularly spectacular.
You are misquoting me, I said the LIA contained some of the deepest grand minima of the Holocene and 4 of them happened in a row (last one not so strong) which is the significant point. But you choose to right off the era as nothing unusual, this is how you do science…all smoke and mirrors.

July 24, 2013 12:20 am

Just an addition on Anthony, Willis and Leif who are isolating themselves on this issue due to their inability to see how scientific things are moving around.
One of the major aspect of science is to be able to distinguish among plausible theories.
When people do not have a sufficient physical and mathematical background, such as Anthony, Willis and Leif, they should avoid stating non-senses and showing up with an attitude finalized to deny everything.
Anthony, Willis and Leif are simply arguing that the theory that I propose must be wrong because they do not understand it a-priory. Which evidently is not a valid argument because they do not even try to read my paper to try to understand what is written there.
A simple way to evaluate theories is to check whether an agreement with the data exists.
In the case of the IPCC AGW Anthony and the like can say that those models are not trustful not because Anthony understand their physics, very likely he has no clue about it as he has no clue about the solar-planetary theory. Anthony and the like can say that those models are not trustful because the models fail to properly hindcast the data such as the post 2000 standstill.
In this they express a reasonable argument.
however, in the case of the theory that I propose, Anthony do not find any disagreement with the data. My hind casts and forecasts are succeeding.
But instead of wondering, they handwave just for denying. This is not a mature way to act. It is very childish indeed.

July 24, 2013 12:28 am

LBR says:
July 24, 2013 at 12:18 am
You are misquoting me, I said the LIA contained some of the deepest grand minima of the Holocene and 4 of them happened in a row (last one not so strong)
You said:
LBR says:
July 23, 2013 at 8:45 pm
What a joke, the LIA has 4 of the deepest grand minima of the Holocene, in a row!
As you can see form Steinhilbers data Figure 9 of http://www.leif.org/research/swsc130003p.pdf
there were something like 9 deep minima the past 9,400 years [the later part of the Holocene]. Only one of those occurred during the LIA. The other minima during the LIA were not deep [compare with all the other about 50 such dips]. But you are correct that all dips happen in a row: first one, then another one, followed by yet another one, and lo-and-behold one more, etc.

LdB
July 24, 2013 12:39 am

Wilson
What I think Anthony is telling you is he has learnt to stay more firmly with a hard science approach supposed correlations come and go but unless you can firmly and scientifically link the correlations they likely mean nothing.
What I personally have noticed is a younger Anthony might have gone off science reservation and got all excited about supposed correlations but now he sticks with the hardened scientific edge which I suspect has something he has hardened by actually publishing scientific publications.
Anthony is in no danger of any sort of personal damage because he is simply echoing a line that all hard science does … we call it prove it or shut up publishing.
Most of the problems climate science has got itself into is because it hasn’t taken hard science approach because it had a political agenda that it felt it needed to compel the public to act. So it bent scientific approach and finds itself in the mess that it is at the moment.
Anthony will never get into any problem taking the approach he has he can simply blame it on the rest of us scientists 🙂
Take the alternative and see how much of a mess Mr Monckton is going to be in going forward …… whats next he can get a correlation between AGW with Aliens, Pink rabbits, Pirates, number of not corrupt politicians the list goes on and on. According to Christopher any correlation will do so long as you can show a correlation its a science fact apparently.
I applaud you Anthony … I have now seen you take on greenhouse effect dragon slayers and Scafetta voodoo you qualify to call yourself an establishment scientist in my book … welcome to the club.

July 24, 2013 12:44 am

Nicola Scafetta says:
July 23, 2013 at 11:58 pm
New papers in the peer reviewed literature are coming out.
I have repeatedly asked you to tell us if your peaks, periods, and ‘mechanisms’ match those claimed in the ‘New’ papers. And you still evade that issue.

LBR
July 24, 2013 12:48 am

Leif Svalgaard says:
July 24, 2013 at 12:28 am
The “in a row” comment is the point you seem to be missing, but I know you do not know the relevance of multiple deep grand minima. Keep watching the new science and you will learn.

Clive E. Birkland
July 24, 2013 12:54 am

Leif Svalgaard says:
July 23, 2013 at 11:59 pm
Clive E. Birkland says:
July 23, 2013 at 11:55 pm
what major concept does Theo use to predict grand minima??
—————-
the golden ratio and the five fingers [giving us the middle finger as the maximum]:
http://bourabai.narod.ru/landscheidt/golden.htm
This is not science.

I agree most of it is rubbish, which you are happy to trot out. But the answer is incorrect and nothing to do with the main concept of predicting grand minima. One of his theories is close to reality and shows that amongst the chaff you can find a gem.
C’mon guys the question is not hard if you understand the theory and concepts. What major concept did Theo use to predict grand minima?

July 24, 2013 12:56 am

LBR says:
July 24, 2013 at 12:48 am
The “in a row” comment is the point you seem to be missing, but I know you do not know the relevance of multiple deep grand minima.
Several consecutive minima are always in a row.
But is is good to see that you do not object [how can you, considering the data] to “there were something like 9 deep minima the past 9,400 years [the later part of the Holocene]. Only one of those occurred during the LIA. The other minima during the LIA were not deep [compare with all the other about 50 such dips].” So, as you noted, nothing special.

LBR
July 24, 2013 1:03 am

Leif Svalgaard says:
July 24, 2013 at 12:56 am
Several consecutive minima are always in a row.
But is is good to see that you do not object [how can you, considering the data] to “there were something like 9 deep minima the past 9,400 years [the later part of the Holocene]. Only one of those occurred during the LIA. The other minima during the LIA were not deep [compare with all the other about 50 such dips].” So, as you noted, nothing special.

The Wolf, Sporer and Maunder minima are the deepest of the Holocene, you must be living in another universe.
http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/image6.png

July 24, 2013 1:09 am

LBR says:
July 24, 2013 at 1:03 am
The Wolf, Sporer and Maunder minima are the deepest of the Holocene, you must be living in another universe.
No, I just have better data [Steinhilber 2010]:
http://www.leif.org/research/Holocene-HMF-B.png

LdB
July 24, 2013 1:19 am

@Nicola Scafetta
I second Leif Svalgaard … link the correlations scientifically or drop this garbage.
Want me to show you the problem Nicola perhaps I should publish this … see your figure 17 it shows a lot of proposed links.
However you do realize there I can think of one you left out ….. aliens pulling a gravitational slingshot around earth that takes energy out of earth and imparts it into the spaceship.
So now one wonders have the number of UFO sightings increased lately .. google is good for that sort of thing
http://www.openminds.tv/wp-content/uploads/MUFON-Sightings.jpg
WOW it even explains why global warming has leveled lately …. LOL
There you go so the increase in aliens preforming gravitational slingshots around earth is a possible cause of global warming and you don’t have that on your figure 17.
Come on Nicola give me any statistic you care and I promise I can make up a pseudoscience junk connection to global warming trend I have played this for hours with friends.
I already gave a good one above also not on your figure 17 … gravity waves from aircraft overhead I mean your whole theory is about gravity waves isn’t it?
Should I publish my findings Nicola and will you support them?

LdB
July 24, 2013 1:46 am

Wait stop the press this is a corker I have solved the whole climate change debate
Thinking about airplanes and a little google and I found a scientific report “Climate change could intensify airplane turbulence”
http://www.expedia.com.au/travel-news/travel/flights/climate-change-could-intensify-airplane-turbulence-419055.aspx
Now planes also create air turbulence so it’s obvious using Nicola Scafetta logic that we have a positive feedback mechanism and that’s what is causing global warming.
Just need to draw some pretty graphs and pictures and write my paper and I am pretty sure I can have the whole climate thing wrapped up then … don’t you love science in the fast lane.

William Astley
July 24, 2013 4:31 am

As stated, I believe I understand the physical reason why there is correlation of tides, sea level, planetary temperate, planetary orbital position, and with solar magnetic cycle changes. There is also correlation of the geomagnetic field changes (abrupt axial changes to the field of 10 to 15 degrees which are called archeomagnetic jerks and cyclic excursions where the field intensity drops by a factor of 5 to 10) with solar magnetic cycle changes.
Fundamental errors in models and in theory are found by looking for and analyzing anomalies. For example the physical reason for the glacial/interglacial cycle and abrupt cyclic climate change is an anomaly. There is no physical explanation as to what could cause abrupt climate changes or abrupt changes to the geomagnetic field. The changes are too large, too fast, and are pseudo cyclical which cannot be explained by the current models. There is no explanation as to why the glacial/interglacial cycle from 3 million years ago to 800,000 years ago followed a 41,000 year cycle and then 800,000 years ago changed to a 100,000 year cycle. There is a very long list of anomalies that indicate the Milankovitch insolation theory is not correct. Something else is causing the glacial/interglacial cycle and is causing the cyclic geomagnetic excrusions. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Five_Myr_Climate_Change.svg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cycles
Milankovitch cycle Problems (William: In your face anomalies which indicate theory failure.)
2.1 100,000-year problem
2.2 Stage 5 problem
2.3 Effect exceeds cause
2.4 The unsplit peak problem
2.5 The transition problem
2.6 Identifying dominant factor
http://www.agu.org/pubs/sample_articles/cr/2002PA000791/2002PA000791.pdf
The 41 kyr world: Milankovitch’s other unsolved mystery
As I have stated there is a very impressive set of mature investigated astronomical anomalies that support the assertion that there are fundamental errors in the stellar model which explain past and current correlations to solar magnetic cycle changes.
As we are in the middle of a climate war and premature discussion of issues related to solar magnetic cycle interruption could be disruptive, I am waiting to discuss the details to support the above assertions until there is unequivocal evidence the solar magnetic cycle has been interrupted. (Yes I understand that it is not possible based on the current solar model for the solar magnetic cycle to be interrupted. I disagree that there is no observational evidence that an interruption is underway; there is no point however in arguing that point as there will be confirming evidence and a NASA announcement of a significant unexplained solar magnetic cycle anomaly if the assertion is correct.)
In the 20th century there were two significant geomagnetic anomalies appeared correlating with solar magnetic cycle changes: 1) The South Atlantic geomagnetic field anomaly (Discovered in 1958, likely started to appear when the solar magnetic super cycle started) and 2) the abrupt increase (by a factor of 5) in the drift velocity of the North magnetic pole (appeared suddenly in 1990s).
What Caused Recent Acceleration of the North Magnetic Pole Drift?
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/2010EO510001/abstract
…During the 1990s the NMP drift speed suddenly increased from 15 kilometers per year at the start of the decade to 55 kilometers per year by the decade’s end. This acceleration was all the more surprising given that the NMP drift speed had remained less than 15 kilometers per year over the previous 150 years of observation. Why did NMP drift accelerate in the 1990s? Answering this question may require revising a long-held assumption about processes in the core at the origin of fluctuations in the intensity and direction of the Earth’s magnetic field on decadal to secular time scales, …
Solar observations and questions:
1) Sunspot group counting problems. Look at this picture of the sun. How many sunspot groups?
Is you answer three? No, the correct answer – Boulder (NOAA/SWPC) – is five. Two of the sunspots groups are not visible.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/reference-pages/solar/
2) Sunspots are turning into pores
Why? No official answer to data.
http://www.solen.info/solar/
3) Is the fact that sunspots are turning into pores related to the fact that magnetic field strength of newly formed sunspots is decaying linearly? Yes
4) Has what is currently happening to the sun happened before? Yes
5) Based on what has happened before what will be the consequences the solar magnetic cycle change? Cooling of the planet, followed by a geomagnetic excursion
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/view.php?id=24476
Glacial Records Depict Ice Age Climate in Synch Worldwide
“Because the Earth is oriented in space in such a way that the hemispheres are out of phase in terms of the amount of solar radiation they receive, it is surprising to find that the climate in the Southern Hemisphere cooled off repeatedly during a period when it received its largest dose of solar radiation,” says Singer. “Moreover, this rapid synchronization of atmospheric temperature between the polar hemispheres appears to have occurred during both of the last major ice ages that gripped the Earth.”
http://eprints.whiterose.ac.uk/416/
Is the geodynamo process intrinsically unstable?
Recent palaeomagnetic studies suggest that excursions of the geomagnetic field, during which the intensity drops suddenly by a factor of 5 to 10 and the local direction changes dramatically, are more common than previously expected. The `normal’ state of the geomagnetic field, dominated by an axial dipole, seems to be interrupted every 30,000 to 100,000 kyr; it may not therefore be as stable as we thought. … ….Recent studies suggest that the Earth’s magnetic field has fallen dramatically in magnitude and changed direction repeatedly since the last reversal 700 kyr ago (Langereis et al. 1997; Lund et al. 1998). These important results paint a rather different picture of the long-term behaviour of the field from the conventional one of a steady dipole reversing at random intervals: instead, the field appears to spend up to 20 per cent of its time in a weak, non-dipole state (Lund et al. 1998). One of us (Gubbins 1999) has suggested that this is evidence of a rapid natural timescale (500 yr) in the outer core, and that the magnetic field is usually prevented from reversing completely by the longer diffusion time of the inner core (2 to 5 kyr). This raises a number of important but difficult questions for geodynamo theory. How can the geomagnetic field change so rapidly and dramatically? Can slight variations of the geomagnetic field affect the dynamics of core convection significantly? If so, is the geodynamo process intrinsically unstable?
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v374/n6524/abs/374687a0.html
New evidence for extraordinary rapid change of geomagnetic field during a reversal
Palaeomagnetic results from lava flows recording a geomagnetic polarity reversal at Steens Mountain, Oregon suggest the occurrence of brief episodes of astonishingly rapid field change of six degrees per day. The evidence is large, systematic variations in the direction of remanent magnetization as a function of the temperature of thermal demagnetization and of vertical position within a single flow, which are most simply explained by the hypothesis that the field was changing direction as the flow cooled.

Mark Bofill
July 24, 2013 5:51 am

Nicola said

However, other papers were published and there may be a need to read them all to know the details, including the references.

and he wasn’t kidding. Slow going.

July 24, 2013 6:15 am

I just realized that Willis did not report the abstract of my paper.
Some readers may be interested in it to have a more balanced summary of my work that does not appear in Willis (unprofessional) comments.
So this is the full reference
SOLAR AND PLANETARY OSCILLATION CONTROL ON CLIMATE CHANGE:
Hind-cast, Forecast and a Comparison with the CMIP5 GCMs
by Nicola Scafetta
take it from
http://people.duke.edu/~ns2002/pdf/Scafetta_EE_2013.pdf
or visit my web-site
http://people.duke.edu/~ns2002/
Abstract:
Global surface temperature records (e.g. HadCRUT4) since 1850 are characterized by climatic oscillations synchronous with specific solar, planetary and lunar harmonics superimposed on a background warming modulation. The latter is related to a long millennial solar oscillation and to changes in the chemical composition of the atmosphere (e.g. aerosol and greenhouse gases). How- ever, current general circulation climate models, e.g. the CMIP5 GCMs, to be used in the AR5 IPCC Report in 2013, fail to reconstruct the observed climatic oscillations. As an alternate, an empirical model is proposed that uses: (1) a specific set of decadal, multidecadal, secular and millennial astronomic harmonics to simulate the observed climatic oscillations; (2) a 0.45 attenuation of the GCM ensemble mean simulations to model the anthropogenic and volcano forcing effects. The proposed empirical model outperforms the GCMs by better hind-casting the observed 1850-2012 climatic patterns. It is found that: (1) about 50-60% of the warming observed since 1850 and since 1970 was induced by natural oscillations likely resulting from harmonic astronomical forcings that are not yet included in the GCMs; (2) a 2000-2040 approximately steady projected temperature; (3) a 2000-2100 projected warming ranging between 0.3°C and 1.6°C , which is significantly lower than the IPCC GCM ensemble mean projected warming of 1.1°C to 4.1°C; (4) an equilibrium climate sensitivity to CO2 doubling centered in 1.35°C and varying between 0.9°C and 2.0°C .

July 24, 2013 6:49 am

Clive E. Birkland says:
July 24, 2013 at 12:54 am
I agree most of it is rubbish, which you are happy to trot out. But the answer is incorrect and nothing to do with the main concept of predicting grand minima. One of his theories is close to reality and shows that amongst the chaff you can find a gem.
When it was found that the spoon bender cheated at least two thirds of the time, the devoted followers exclaimed: “so what, at least one third is the genuine article”.
William Astley says:
July 24, 2013 at 4:31 am
As stated, I believe I understand the physical reason why there is correlation of tides, sea level, planetary temperate, planetary orbital position, and with solar magnetic cycle changes.
At an asylum for the insane there are three Napoleons and two Einsteins. At least so the inmates claim. Go join them, and don’t forget to reserve your ticket to Stockholm to go collect your Nobel Prize. Perhaps it will be a split prize as there seems to be another candidate here who also understands it all.

July 24, 2013 7:09 am

Clive E. Birkland says:
July 24, 2013 at 12:54 am
What major concept did Theo use to predict grand minima?
Ah, here is the gem you are seeking:
“A phase reversal [an irregular maximum instead of the regular minimum] occurs when the starting phase of a big finger collides with the initial phase of a small finger. The new rhythm continues until the next starting phase of a big finger intervenes”.
All is clear.

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