UPDATE: Mr. Marriott, perhaps fearful of legal action due to his own stupidity on the matter, has dropped the claim of “doctoring” and has also changed the title to remove the “dishonest” claim. Rather than admit he was wrong and published a defamatory article with malicious intent, he’s now using the “Gleick defense” citing his essay as a joke and a “throwaway” comment. All of this defamation was over what could have been a simple request: “Mr. Watts, would you add the NSIDC graph showing standard deviation (in addition to the one sans STD) to the WUWT Sea Ice page ?” I’m happy to do so and have done so. Instead of a simple request, we get ludicrous claims of doctoring images, dishonesty, and now the fallback position of “cherry picking” and the laughable “incomplete context” claim in order to avoid admission of wrongdoing. I suppose his next complaint will be to NSIDC to claim the “incomplete context” of showing only 2012 and 2013 on the NSIDC graph?
Now he’s modified the original essay, sending it down the memory hole, leaving late coming readers to believe his defamation never happened, but you can see the screenshot of the original below. There’s no clear apology, no admission that his hatred caused him to screw up the simplest issue and use it for the basis of defamation. Clearly his behavior is proof there’s no integrity with Mr. Mike Marriot, which of course is self evident by the title of his blog “Watching the Deniers”. – Anthony
False accusation that Watts “doctored” sea ice graph
Eric Worrall writes:
An Australian alarmist blog, Watching The Deniers, has just accused Anthony Watts of photoshopping one of the Sea Ice Graphs.
Click here (screencap here)to see the ridiculous accusation.
Note the original NSIDC graph, updated daily, which the the Watching the Deniers blog claimed Anthony Watts fabricated:
[ http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/daily_images/N_timeseries.png ]
Somehow WTD thinks that Anthony makes the above image by “doctoring” this one:
[ http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/daily_images/N_stddev_timeseries.png ]
I have of course lodged a complaint with the Australian Press Council about this lie. I encourage other Australians to complain through official channels about climate lies propagated by alarmists.
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Anthony adds:
This may be the dumbest accusation against me, ever. NSIDC used to put the same graph on their front page, in late 2009, without standard deviation bounds. It is the same one we’ve had since about then on our WUWT Sea Ice page.
By early 2010, NSIDC added one with standard deviation bounds, but keeps updating the original too.
(UPDATE: NSIDC has stopped updating the graph without STD bounds, and replaces any request for it automatically now with one including STD. You can see the NSIDC graph without standard deviation bounds as figure 4 in the Federal register here: http://www.federalregister.gov/articles/2008/05/15/E8-11105/endangered-and-threatened-wildlife-and-plants-determination-of-threatened-status-for-the-polar-bear )
It would be quite some feat for me to “doctor” that image with STD bounds everyday and place it in plain view for thousands to see every month and get away with it for three years. Sheesh.
According to the about page for WTD:
Mike Marriott, a 40+ year old living in Melbourne. I work as an information manager for a large professional services firm.
I’ve left a comment explaining Mr. Marriott’s absurd misconception and asked for an apology. We’ll see if it passes moderation, and if he lives up to his “professional services” label.
Here is a screencap of the comment:
In the meantime, you can leave comments here.
The original accusation by Marriott is in the screenshot below:
![wtdscreenshot[1]](http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/wtdscreenshot1.gif)
equally hilarious…CAGW is “past the point of no more change”:
7 July: News & Observer, NC: Reid Creager: Queens University professor helps tiny Micronesian islands adapt to global warming
The Micronesian island state of Yap is small and remote, about 21 hours of flying from North Carolina without counting airport stops along the way. “Paradise, if you can find it,” the Los Angeles Times once wrote. But there’s trouble in paradise. Queens University of Charlotte science professor Reed Perkins says global climate change has triggered a domino effect that he has witnessed on Yap, resulting in decreased food supply amid increasing demand…
Yap is one of four member states of the Federated States of Micronesia, where, according to Perkins, satellite altimetry shows global climate change is forcing sea levels to rise faster than the global average: 5 mm to 10 mm per year (0.2 to 0.4 inches), compared with 3 mm per year since 1993. ..
In their project – funded by a three-year, $150,000 grant from the U.S. Forest Service – Perkins and Yapese scientific colleagues are trying to find suitable places to relocate the agricultural areas with the help of geospatial analysis (GPS, remote sensing) and geographic information systems…
Climate change permanent
The global climate change of which Perkins speaks is a little different from global warming, he says. “The term ‘global climate change’ is typically preferred because it captures all aspects of the changing climate (wind, storms, variability, etc.), not just the warming part.”…
“Even if the world was somehow able to accomplish zero greenhouse gas emissions, the climate will continue to warm because of the climate change momentum that is happening. It’s really not past the point of no return, but it’s past the point of no more change. The question is, how much.”…
“Climate change isn’t just an issue facing the Pacific islands,” said Perkins, who plans at least four trips to Yap during the three-year grant period. “It’s impacting the Carolinas, too. Sea levels have risen In North Carolina about a foot over the past 80 years. That rate is expected to increase in the years ahead.”
http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/07/07/3006897/queens-university-professor-helps.html
A “Fail” of Peter Gleick proportions.
Lies and more lies and more desperate lies on the y-axis to try to keep the fraud alive. Now there’s a real hockey stick graph Mikey. See what you started.
ColdinOz says:
Please don’t think that we’re all that dumb down under
I agree, we down in this land don’t all belong to the no brainers! Sadly, common sense left their residence many year ago. They can’t debate because they have nothing to debate with, not even facts.
This has also brought something else up. Why does NSIDC use 2 sd the ‘normal’ is 3 sd . Also, in order to calculate sd you would need individual measurements otherwise the sd is based on an already normalised data set. For example, you would not consider using sd on a set of averages as it would not give you the true statistical standard deviation. So presumably the sd calculation is based on a set of individual data points and not averages.
For information
2 sd =~ 95.2% of data points
3 sd =~ 99.5% of data points.
Now, why would they not want to use standard statistical methods of data analysis. Unless they are only 95 percent confident of their data ?
Can anyone plot this chart with 3 sd on it ? It would look a lot different.
Edit to above … xx.x% of data points would fall with the range..
Gregory T wrote this in reply to K largo:
“To falsify or change in such a way as to make favorable to oneself: doctored the evidence.
So you are saying that Watts did not make the graph look favourable to himself by using the interactive features available ? Makes one wonder what other changes he makes inorder to look favourable to himself .”
I just replied to Gregory T:
“@Sunny T
As K Largo has provided in his first comment in the comments section:
http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/daily_images/N_timeseries.png
Look at the link. It is a .png file. Can you explain what “interactive features” you are talking about?”
My first comment on the site so it has gone into pre-moderation, but copied here for the record.
I hope Mariott thanks you for the traffic to his site. He will get more traffic in one day from WUWT than he probably gotten in all thw time the site has been launched.
WUWT, making alarmist dickheads famous, one idiot at a time.
Eugene WR Gallun says:
July 7, 2013 at 9:31 pm
“Complaint — i really hate this new small comment box. It is much harder to self-correct”
Second time for such a comment this week!
Prior to a few months ago I used MS-Word to draft a comment. Now I use LibreOffice Writer. So for me there is no recognition of a “new small comment box.” The “new” box works just like the “old” one apparently, but because I haven’t used the box except to place and insertion point and then “paste” it is a ‘makes no difference’ difference. After pasting, hit an up arrow key.
You can, if you like, click inside the box and then hit the Enter Key a few times. That will expand the box.
My two penneth – in moderation as well:-
roymustard says:
July 8, 2013 at 5:36 am
So the graph wasn’t Photoshopped, but contextual information was edited out. That is extremely dishonest in my books. That the deniers here think they’ve scored a win out of this post shows how little they currently have going for them.
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Doug UK says:
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
July 8, 2013 at 5:48 am
My goodness but you must be brave to post such nonsense.
“Contextual information was edited out” ?
The accusation was clear – it was stated that the graph had been altered, photoshopped.
Unbelievable!
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Doug UK says:
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
July 8, 2013 at 5:44 am
I see – so comments after Watts response appear – but Watts is still “in moderation”.
Not very good at this openness and honesty thing are you?
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@Unite Against Greenfleecing
You probably have a point. So far it just looks like never-ending clown dancing as opposed to admitting that the accusation was a false one (whether intentional or not).
There’s a point at which they’ve had more than enough opportunity to apologise. Beyond that they will just have to face upto whatever legal consequences come their way.
Unite Against Greenfleecing
I hope Mariott thanks you for the traffic to his site. He will get more traffic in one day from WUWT than he probably gotten in all thw time the site has been launched. WUWT, making alarmist dickheads famous, one idiot at a time.
If you don’t challenge liars, their lies don’t get challenged. Yes there is an issue of drawing attention to alarmists, but WTD gets a fair bit of attention anyway. Exposing their malice and incompetence to ridicule at least allows people to see them as they truly are.
myrightpenguin says:
July 7, 2013 at 10:31 pm
“Gregory T wrote this in reply to K largo:
“To falsify or change in such a way as to make favorable to oneself: doctored the evidence.
So you are saying that Watts did not make the graph look favourable to himself by using the interactive features available ? Makes one wonder what other changes he makes inorder to look favourable to himself .””
Great – alarmists are so insecure now that they consider scaling a graph manipulatiion if not done by an alarmist.
I see he has “allowed” your comment and made some changes to his post. I found the “Rottweiller attacks on a number of your supporters by his tame troll follow the usual pattern, of refusal to address their fault and raise a number of side-issues with which to obfuscate. Thus, in their new version, Anthony, you are guilty of “excluding” the version of the graph which has the “Standard Deviation” paramenters in order to mislead your readers. But I note the Rottweiler refuses to answer any questions and just keeps posting variations of his own in response to any challenge to his rationale. Typical behaviour of the closed mind.
Equally interesting on that site aer the six reasons for denial. I wonder how he and his supporters feel now that the last one, concerning the economic damage of “Cap and Trade” is beginning to bite in Australia? The recent eviction of Julia Gillard from the Premiership may clip the wings of the Greens there, but I suspect they have already done near fatal damage in their efforts to control the climate.
REPLY: I’ve asked him to change his headline. If he doesn’t he’ll not leave me much choice. – Anthony
He has not explained how you are able to do your dastardly deed on an image hosted by the NSIDC on their server, and to get away with this charade for years without being caught. I wonder why he claims to be a researcher when it is quite obvious he is not very good at research.
I wouldn’t hold my breathe waiting for a reply. Mike can his various lap-dog regulars live in a parallel universe where they are never wrong and ‘deniers’ are never right. And Mike’s activist approach to comments ensures that anything that shows him or his pals in error is ‘appropriately’ dealt with.
Two examples from my short time there trying to set them straight:
John Bryant, the site’s resident dill, made great play of the ‘fact’ that 300 million people a year die from carbon pollution. After I left the comment unchallenged for a few days to see if any of the other geniuses there would pick up the error I finally pointed out that approx 60 mill people die per year world wide from all causes. I was then informed that I’d somehow breached commenting rules by pointing out the error and put on notice.
A few days later Mike posted that our then Prime Minister needed to be sacked as the only way of defeating Tony Abbott who intended to repeal our CO2 tax. When I pointed out that a mere month early this same Mike had predicted that Abbott would never repeal the CO2 tax, I was promptly informed that I’d again breached commenting protocol, was summarily banned and all references to the brainless inconsistency of the blog owner were instantly removed… and remain so.
The site is an embarrassment to all Aussies. Hopefully this monumental error will push them into closure or at least a more reasoned approach.
Even with changes the intent to misrepresent WUWT still exists. NOTE:
…my interpretation remains reasonable.
The graph presented on WUWT is to my opinion an example of cherry picking. By removing reference to standard deviations in sea-ice extent, crucial and contextual information is excluded. WUWT is a site that exists to cast doubt on climate change: information is presented and crafted to undermine the scientific consensus.
So he is still claiming Anthony removed reference to standard deviation and crafting data. Hence, though he has made some edits his apology and retraction still remains disingenuous.
Mike Marriott is co-author, with John Cook and Stephan Lewandowsky, of the Recursive Fury paper which accuses Anthony Watt and others of conspiracist ideation.
There is also the very first paragraph; This is how you do denial and flagrantly misrepresent data.
Nothing has been denied, nor has nothing been flagrantly misrepresented.
UPDATE
Received the following response from the Australian Press Council:-
Dear Mr Worrall,
Complaint: Watching the Deniers, WordPress
Thank you for submitting a Complaint Form to the Australian Press Council today, Monday 8 July 2013.
We regret to advise we are unable to assist you with your complaint as WordPress is not a member of our organisation.
A list of our members can be found at the following link:
http://www.presscouncil.org.au/constituent-bodies/
As such, we are unable to consider your complaint further.
You may wish to contact the publisher to pursue the complaint further:
http://en.wordpress.com/complaints/
Yours Sincerely,
Justin
So what is the complaint here? That you removed the error bounds to hide the fact that this years variation is within the 1 std.dev bounds of the entire record while last year was outside.
Typical of “denierz” huh? They’re so underhanded even when the data shows change is within normal bounds they go out of their way to hide the fact.
For his employers’ sake, let’s hope his information management is better than his disinformation management.
I especially liked this part: “See, if you just remove that pesky piece of information that indicates that sea-ice decline is below average you remove the problem.” The pesky piece of information removed being the std dev area – the average is still there. Which means that these people are really, really ignorant.
Awh, I worked my photoshop skills to the bone and they trashed my comment QQ:
http://oi41.tinypic.com/k9e3q1.jpg
According to Mr Byatt, we are not just ‘deniers’, we are now retards and losers.
Of course that comment doesn’t get moderated…:)