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Steve McIntyre writes:
Last fall, Geoff Chambers and Barry Woods established beyond a shadow of a doubt that no blog post linking to the Lewandowsky survey had ever been published at the Skeptical Science (SKS) blog. Chambers reasonably suggested at the time that the authors correct the claim in the article to reflect the lack of any link at the SKS blog. I reviewed the then available information on this incident in September 2012 here.
Since then, information obtained through FOI has shown that responses by both Lewandowsky and Cook to questions from Chambers and Woods were untrue. Actually, “untrue” does not really do justice to the measure of untruthfulness, as the FOI correspondence shows that the untruthful answers were given deliberately and intentionally. Chambers, in a post entitled Lewandowsky the Liar, minced no words in calling Lewandowsky “a liar, a fool, a charlatan and a fraud.”
Even though the untruthfulness of Lewandowsky and Cook’s stories had been clearly demonstrated by Geoff Chambers in a series of blog articles (e.g. here), in the published version of the Hoax paper, instead of correcting prior untrue claims about SKS, Lewandowsky doubled down, repeating and substantially amplifying the untrue claim.
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philjourdan says:
March 28, 2013 at 11:59 am
any possibility Alarmist will ever learn the meaning of the words “integrity” and “ethics”?
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You can’t teach ethics, or integrity.
The State of Illinois required me to attend a 4 hour (bi-annual) seminar that was supposed to install/reinstall said traits.
It always struck me, as an insult.
Simply amazing …
And it seems that Lewandowsky’s Recursive Fury-paper has been withdrawn (again!) by Frontiers in Personality ..
Lewandowsky is as valuable as Mann … and soon Cook will be too
To Fred from Canuckstan and others who suggest emailing the Chancellor of the University, you might want to think about emailing the Vice Chancellor instead . The Vice Chancellor (or VC) of a university is basically the CEO. The Chancellor is like the Chairman of the Board. The behavior of an individual staff member is likely to be below the Chancellors notice. The Chancellor is likely to regard it as an operational matter and therefore the responsibility of the VC.
3×2 (March 28, 2013 at 12:46 pm) says:
“While shooting Lewpaper in a barrel is always fun I feel that SM is seriously wasting his many and obvious talents on this half-wit.”
I’d agree, but as Steve generously acknowledges, this was very much a team effort. Barry Woods, Foxgoose, Jeff Condon, DGH, Simon Turnull of Australian Climate Madness, Brandon Schollenberger, A Scott and I, and a lot of others worked on this, mostly independently, exchanging information on threads like this. Steve’s talent for clear exposition of a complex story, and the authority he commands, was a vital ingredient.
Lewandowsky and Cook have an influence on the debate out of all proportion to their talent. Why this is, and how to counteract it , are complicated questions. Lots of people are working on the answers. Without the aid of Steve and Anthony, our work would be a waste of time.
u.k.(us) wrote: “You can’t teach ethics, or integrity.”
Yes you can, but it must start in early childhood and must progess into adulthood.
I look at the photo of Cook and Lewandowsky and just see a couple of otherwise nonentities who have found what probably seems to them a loving intellectual home in the AGW movement. Only a doctrinaire, jackbooted mob like the Greenshirts would accept the likes of such a pair of otherwise losers. Useful idiots being in relatively short supply they are welcomed and patted and petted as part of “the Team” and their pockets pissed until they feel so warm and loved but most importantly, listened to. They will do anything for more – which is rather the point and how the LSD Left works basically.
It is all pretty sad at the human level. I wonder what their parents think?
Lewandowsky, the Baghdad Bob of Climate Science?
“There are no American infidels in Baghdad. Never!”
“Our initial assessment is that they will all die”
“God will roast their stomachs in hell at the hands of Iraqis.”
“These cowards have no morals. They have no shame about lying”
“They’re not even [within] 100 miles [of Baghdad]. They are not in any place. They hold no place in Iraq. This is an illusion … they are trying to sell to the others an illusion.”
“They do not even have control over themselves! Do not believe them!”
“Faltering forces of infidels cannot just enter a country of 26 million people and lay besiege to them! They are the ones who will find themselves under siege. Therefore, in reality whatever this miserable Rumsfeld has been saying, he was talking about his own forces. Now even the American command is under siege.”
“They tried to bring a small number of tanks and personnel carriers in through al-Durah but they were surrounded and most of their infidels had their throats cut.”
“We made them drink poison last night and Saddam Hussein’s soldiers and his great forces gave the Americans a lesson which will not be forgotten by history. Truly.”
“On this occasion, I am not going to mention the number of the infidels who were killed and the number of destroyed vehicles. The operation continues”
“We’re giving them a real lesson today. Heavy doesn’t accurately describe the level of casualties we have inflicted.”
“I can say, and I am responsible for what I am saying, that they have started to commit suicide under the walls of Baghdad. We will encourage them to commit more suicides quickly.”
“Their infidels are committing suicide by the hundreds on the gates of Baghdad. Be assured, Baghdad is safe, protected.”
“We defeated them yesterday. God willing, I will provide you with more information. I swear by God, I swear by God, those who are staying in Washington and London have thrown these mercenaries in a crematorium.”
philjourdan says:
March 28, 2013 at 11:59 am
any possibility Alarmist will ever learn the meaning of the words “integrity” and “ethics”?
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In a word…. NO
to both items…
Lewandowsky should be nominated for the Lysenko Prize. [Yes, there is such a thing.]]
Did you ever notice that if you rearrange the letters in “What Lysenko Spawned” you get “Stephan Lewandowsky?”
@ur momisugly jorgekafkazar says: March 28, 2013 at 5:55 pm
“What Lysenko Spawned” = “Stephan Lewandowsky”.
Now that is truly remarkable. When what should be a complete co-incidence occurring as a result of an association of random elements is so utterly true it makes one wonder as to the extent of the mysteries of the universe.
Determining the total number of phrases that could be formed from Lewandowsky’s name and evaluating the probability that any of them reflect anything about Lewandowsky himself by random association, would be a far more valuable endeavour than the compulsion to “prove” mans evil utilizing the proxy of CAGW.
Such an exercise would have the virtue of undeniable evidence at least which immediately elevates it above CAGW.
Kajajuk says:
March 28, 2013 at 2:25 pm
If you have evidence to the contrary just speak your mind.
We are in the last days of the CAGW industry in Australia. Take some heart from the fact that the Green-ALP alliance which spawns opportunists like Lewandowski, Cook et al will be trounced in our Federal elections in Sepptember. Then the gravy train stops. Dead in its tracks. It is not an exagerration to say that the CAGW industry is despised by the vast majority of hard working Australians who will dispose of the whoile scam democratically with an election. So many Australian workers are just waiting for their vote to be cast and decency to be restored to what was once an honourable country.
What is sadder? The fact that (many) Alarmists have yet to demonstrate a comprehension of ethics and integrity? Or the fact that no one (who answered the question here) believes the alarmists are capable of attaining such knowledge?
The former demonstrates a character flaw in the individuals (and to even the poster who said “Organizations also lie”, organizations are merely groups of people). The latter demonstrates a resignation that Alarmists are incapable of education and learning.
dbstealey says:
March 28, 2013 at 11:16 am
“The alarmist crowd has no integrity, none at all. They have been given permission to lie by the late Stephen Schneider, and now they lie like children caught with chocolate on their faces, standing next to an open cookie jar.”
And who was Schneider to give anyone “permission” to lie? Did he request (or was granted) that right by the US Government? Was he elected to any position that allowed him to write that?”
No!!! It was just hyperbole.
Anthony – I can’t help but wonder why SS is still listed on the rhs as merely “unreliable”. It seems to me that the site in general, and Cook in particular, should be listed further up the page.
Irreverently I note that the heading a little above “Unreliable” is “Tools”. I don’t know how well the word tool as an epithet translates into American but to many in the UK, a tool is exactly how we would describe Cook. Maybe it’s time to move him up, although you may think it wiser to ignore my suggested destination.
Kajajuk says: March 28, 2013 at 2:25 pm
Find myself having a hard time following the climate “debate” here…
warmist = socialism; akin to non-integrity and unethical…
anti-warmist = anti-socialism; akin to integrity and ethics…
So warmist bad and anti-warmist good.
Am i on the right page?
Nah, not really …ya gotta do your own thinking around here … come along with an opinion, express it, and discuss it if need be.
@Gail C
Good post. I would like to point out that the difference between the light/dark and true/false comparison is that darkness is the absence of something. A falsehood could, of course be made by omission but that facts in this case are the the presence of a false statement, not the mere absence of truth. There is a stinking pile on the carpet that must be expunged.
We do not only battle against the darkness by letting in the light, we refute what is false and vain.
In the post-normal academic world, there is no such thing as “truth”, which is an imperialistic conceit. There are only points of view and feelings. How else can you explain that a journal would even allow articles with such titles as these two into print? “recursive fury”? what does that even mean? It is just seeking attention.
@ur momisugly Craig Loehle says: March 29, 2013 at 6:45 am
…”recursive fury”? what does that even mean?…
True. And the use and acceptance of such things illustrates your point about views and feelings, that is, the personal “sense” of things having primacy over a truth that can exist independently of the possessor, and that to question such terminology amounts to an assault on the individuals proffering it. They and it are sacrosanct.
DirkH says:
March 29, 2013 at 4:39 am
If you have evidence to the contrary just speak your mind.
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I have no “evidence” of labels and assumed generalities; as well i have no mind for the tactics expressed or the camaraderie of any ‘circle of jerks’…whatsoever.
Anyways, i did find this article interesting;
http://news.yahoo.com/storm-became-big-enough-span-atlantic-165848194.html
Such a large storm system, a twice winter event (?), must have a massive effect on the heat content of the Atlantic basin as well as the atmospheric dynamics on a colossal scale. I wonder if climate models include such realities in the fantasies?
This is shaping up like the Bellesiles affair.
I’ll always remember one of Lewandowski’s Australian students commenting about him: ‘Have a shave and take a bath, you grub!’
LOL!!
geoffchambers
I’d agree, but as Steve generously acknowledges, this was very much a team effort. Barry Woods, Foxgoose, Jeff Condon, DGH, Simon Turnull of Australian Climate Madness, Brandon Schollenberger, A Scott and I, and a lot of others worked on this […]
Sorry Geoff. Apologies to all who have worked to expose this crap for what it really is. I guess that I have so little respect for those attempting to pass Lewpaper off as science that it is easy for me to forget that they do get ‘airtime’ and are taken seriously by some. As far as I am concerned Lew has about as much to add to ‘the science’ as the guy proclaiming ‘end of the world’ outside my train station at 5pm every night. Take him or leave him (I choose the latter).
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