It's the Sun stupid – The minor significance of CO2

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Guest post by Dr. Norman Page

1 The IPCC’s Core Problem

The IPCC  – Al Gore based  Anthropogenic Global Warming scare has driven global  Governments’ Climate and Energy Policies since the turn of the century. Hundreds of billions of dollars have been wasted on uneconomic renewable energy  and CO2 emission control schemes based on the notions  that it is both necessary and possible to control global temperatures by reducing CO2 emissions. All this vast investment is based on the simple idea that as stated in the IPCC AR4 report:

“we conclude that the global mean equilibrium warming for doubling CO2, or ‘equilibrium climate sensitivity’, is likely to lie in the range 2°C to 4.5°C, with a most likely value of about 3°C. Equilibrium climate sensitivity is very likely larger than 1.5°C.”

These values  can only be reached by adopting two completely unfounded and indeed illogical assumptions and procedures:

1. CO2 is simply assumed to be the main climate forcing .This is clearly illogical  because at all time scales CO2 changes follow temperature changes.

2.  Positive feedback  from the other GHGs – notably water vapour and methane is then added on to the effects of CO2 and attributed to it. Obviously, in nature,  the increase in  CO2 and  Humidity  are  both caused by rising temperatures. It is also impossible to have a net positive feedback because systems with total positive feed back are not stable and simply run away to disaster. We wouldn’t be here to tell the tale if it were true.

From its inception the IPCCs remit was to measure Anthropogenic  Climate Change and indeed Climate Change was defined as Anthropogenic until the 2011 SREX report when the definition was changed.The climate science community simply designed their models to satisfy the political  requirements of their funding agencies. – Publications, academic positions,peer approval , institutional advancement and grants were unlikely to be forthcoming unless appropriate forecasts of catastrophic warming were dutifully produced. The climate models have egregious structural errors and ,what is worse, in their estimates of  uncertainty the IPCC reports for Policymakers simply ignored this structural uncertainty and gave policy makers and the general public a totally false impression of the likely accuracy  of their temperature forecasts.It is this aspect of the AGW meme which is especially unconscionable.

The inadequacy, not to say inanity, of the climate models can be seen by simple inspection of the following Figure 2-20  from the AR4 WG1 report.

Figure 1 from IPCC AR4

The only natural forcing is TSI and everything else is anthropogenic. For example under natural should come such things as eg Milankovitch Orbital Cycles,Lunar related tidal effects on ocean currents,Earths geomagnetic field strength and all the Solar Activity data time series – eg Solar  Magnetic Sield strength, TSI ,SSNs ,GCRs ,( effect on aerosols,clouds and albedo) CHs, MCEs, EUV variations, and associated ozone variations and Forbush events. Unless the range and causes of natural variation are known within reasonably narrow limits it is simply not possible to calculate the effect of anthropogenic CO2 on climate.

The results of this gross error of scientific judgement is seen in the growing discrepancy between global temperature trends and the model projections. The  NOAA  SSTs show that with CO2 up 8% there has been no net warming since 1997, that ,the warming trend peaked in 2003 and that there has been a cooling trend since that time.

ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/anomalies/annual.ocean.90S.90N.df_1901-2000mean.dat

The gap between projections and observations  is seen  below

Fig 2 ( From Prof. Jan-Erik Solheim (Oslo) )

2, The Real Climate Drivers.

Earths climate is the result of resonances between various quasicyclic processes of varying wavelengths. The long wave Milankovich eccentricity,obliquity and precessional cycles are modulated by solar “activity” cycles with millennial centennial and decadal time scales .These in turn interact with lunar cycles and endogenous earth changes in Geomagnetic Field strength ,volcanic activity and at really long time scales plate tectonic movements of the land masses.The combination of all these drivers is mediated through the great oceanic current and atmospheric pressure systems to produce the earths climate and weather.

To help forecast decadal  and annual changes we can look at eg the ENSO  PDO, AMO NAO indices and based on past patterns make reasonable forecasts for varying future periods. Currently the PDO suggests we may expect 20 – 30 years of cooling in the immediate future.Similarly for multidecadal, centennial and millennial predictions we need to know where we are relative to the appropriate solar cycles.The best proxies for solar “activity”are currently ,the Ap index, and the GCR produced neutron count. The solar indices are particularly important  for their past history these can be retrieved from the 10 Be data.

In a previous post on   http://climatesense-norpag.blogspot.com  on  1/22/13 – Global Cooling – Timing and Amount(NH) I have made suggestions of possible future cooling based on a repetition of the solar millennial cycle. Here I point out for the modellers the value of using the Ap index as a proxy measure of solar activity. Compare the Northern Hemisphere HADSST3 Temperature anomaly since 1910 with the AP index since 1900 . Because of the thermal inertia and slow change in the enthalpy of the oceans there is a 10 – 12 year delay between the driver proxy  and the temperature.

Fig 3 – From Hadley Center

Fig 4  From  http://www.leif.org/research/Ap-1844-now.png

There are some good correlations .The 1900 and 1965 Ap lows correspond to the NH  temperature minima at 1910 and 1975 respectively . The 1992 Ap peak ( Solar Cycle 22)  corresponds to the 2003 temperature high and trend roll over- and as shown in the previous post referred to above might well represent  the roll over of the millennial solar cycle which brought the Medieval and Roman warming peaks. The NH is used because it is more sensitive to forcing changes and its greater variability makes correlation more obvious.

As a simple conceptual model the Ap index can be thought of as simple proxy for hours of sunshine especially when mentally integrated over a 10 -12 year period.  See Wang et al

http://www.atmos-chem-phys.net/12/9581/2012/acp-12-9581-2012.pdf

As far as the future is concerned the Solar Cycle  23/24 Ap minimum in end 2009 is as low as the 1900 minimum and would suggest both a secular change in solar activity in about 2006 and a coming temperature minimum at about 2019/20. This change is also documented for TSI by  Adbussamatov  2012 http://www.ccsenet.org/journal/index.php/apr/article/view/14754

Fig 5.

As a final example for this post  the following figure from Steinhilber et al http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2012/03/30/1118965109.full.pdf

shows the close correlation of successive Little Ice Age Minima with cosmic Ray intensity.

                                                                                                    Fig 6

CONCLUSION :    

It is now clear that the Ap/GCR/10Be data are the best proxy measures of the Earth’s temperature driver over millennial centennial and decadal time scales. The best way of forecasting the future is to predict future solar cycles at these wavelengths keeping in mind the Earth’s magnetic field strength and obliquity trends over longer time periods.

3. The Response of the Modellers, IPCC and Political Alarmists.

The modelling community and the IPCC have both recognized that they have a problem. For example both Hansen and Trenberth have been looking for the missing heat and generating epicycle type theories to preserve their models.Hansen thinks it might have something to do with aerosols and Trenberth first wanted to hide it down the deep ocean black hole. Death Train Hansen is a lost cause as far as objective science is concerned but Trenberth has always been a more objective and judicious scientist and has recently made excellent  progress in discovering a real negative feedback in the system. see

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/outreach/proceedings/cdw31_proceedings/S6_05_Kevin_Trenberth_NCAR.ppt

He says:

This is an encouraging start and its inclusion would improve models significantly. Clearly it would reduce very substantially the currently IPCC calculated temperature sensitivity to CO2 . He now also needs to add into the models the iris effect of the GCR modulation  of the global incoming radiation flux via clouds ,possibly related natural aerosols, and resulting  albedo changes on global temperatures.When this is done the sensitivity to doubling  CO2 will be 1 degree or less similar to  separate calculations by Lindzen, Spencer and Bjornbom:

http://hockeyschtick.blogspot.com/2013/01/new-paper-confirms-findings-of-lindzen.html

The IPCC ‘s response to the lack of warming is seen in the SREX  2011 report. they say

“Uncertainty in the sign of projected changes in climate extremes over the coming two to three decades is relatively large because climate change signals are expected to be relatively small compared to natural climate variability”.

In other words they realized  that they could no longer scaremonger on the basis of the trend and so in that report and in the forthcoming AR5 they have chosen to concentrate on “extreme” events to promote their scaremongering anti CO2 policy agenda  while keeping unchanged their climate sensitivity calculations. The core alarmists  Hansen, Mann, McKibben and Romm and their MSM ,Celebrity and Political  acolytes including Obama are simply following the IPCC script with their ever more hysterical predictions of future extreme disasters as the current earth obstinately refuses to warm up.

The AR5 Summary for Policymakers is currently in draft form.Obviously Trenberth and his associated modellers cannot restructure the models in time to change the science section but perhaps they could at least insist that the final report makes proper allowance for the structural uncertainty in the model outcomes .

CONCLUSION:

Trenberth’s latest work implies that when it is incorporated into the climate models the entire CAGW  scare will collapse.

The only effect of increasing CO2 will be to ameliorate slightly the coming cold  temperature trend and to help world food production by its fertilizing effect on crops.

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February 20, 2013 11:48 am

Here is another paper supportive of this thesis…
http://environmentalresearchweb.org/cws/article/yournews/50685

A. Crowe
February 20, 2013 11:51 am

Not sure if Dr Trenberth would be amused or dismayed by Dr Page’s misinterpretation of his tropical cyclone slide show.

apachewhoknows
February 20, 2013 11:52 am

Had Al Gore or Michael Mann spent some time out in the sun and not all the time in air conditioned homes, planes, offices, cars then it could have been they would have noticed.
Or in the case of some, 10,000 years out in the sun every day.
http://www.nps.gov/chcu/index.htm
Lots of understanding due to the need for food and shelter.

February 20, 2013 11:56 am

Vukcevik says
while equatorial area exhibits no warming.
Henry says
my random sample seems to indicate that that statement is generally not true.
Places like Honolulu, Hato, Caracas, Phuket, Brasilia, Rarotonga all show a warming rate above the global average of 0.014 degrees C per annum since 1974.

February 20, 2013 11:59 am

MODS
policycritic says:
February 20, 2013 at 11:12 am
There’s a typo, both here and in Dr. Page’s original article:
htpp://climatesense-norpag.blogspot.com
should read
http://climatesense-norpag.blogspot.com
REPLY: Your comment is totally unhelpful, WHERE
Mods, 6th paragraph – ‘acadmic’ academic. 10th paragraph ‘centenial’ centennial, there are some format errors with commas and fullstops.
[Thank you. ]

MarkW
February 20, 2013 12:03 pm

Scott Basinger says:
February 20, 2013 at 10:05 am
Is it still a tragedy?

It’s now officially a farce.

GeeJam
February 20, 2013 12:03 pm

Indeed, an excellent post. As has been correctly pointed out before, if anthropogenic CO2 emissions were wholly responsible for the LESS-than-HALF-a-DEGREE of increased celcius temperature (since 1997), then why haven’t the ‘politicians-with-a-vested-interest-in-thinking-they-can-save-the-planet’ kerbed the production of all man-made forms of this ‘catastrophic’ gas. Carbonated drinks, modified air packaging, welding gas, fire extinguishers, air bags, beer, wine, bread, snack foods, air-blasting, laser coolants and PCB manufacture to name but a few. Infact, if CO2 was so efficient at ‘warming’, then why isn’t it inside sealed double glazing units?

MarkW
February 20, 2013 12:04 pm

lsvalgaard says:
February 20, 2013 at 10:10 am
And the high Ap in the mid 19th century corresponds to the pronounced warming during that time…Moral: you can’t have it both ways.

Nobody ever claimed that the sun was the only thing that matters when it comes to temperatures.

February 20, 2013 12:04 pm

denniswingo says:
February 20, 2013 at 11:48 am
Here is another paper supportive of this thesis…
From the paper: “In fact, studies have suggested that the extremely cold European winters of 2010 and 2011 were the result of the North Atlantic Oscillation, which Sirocko and his team now link to the low solar activity during that time”.
What happened to the 10-yr lag that Dr. Page invokes in his article?
It seems that people will believe anything as long as it supports their thesis…

MarkW
February 20, 2013 12:07 pm

REPLY: Your comment is totally unhelpful, WHERE
Using a simple search function, I was able to locate the string in question at the start of the second paragraph of section 2. Took me all of 10 seconds.
REPLY: Yes, but search function doesn’t exist in the WordPress Editor, nor does CTRL-F in browser work in that mode. Telling me where in the first place takes all of ten seconds too. If people want to be pedantic, at least be HELPFULLY pedantic – Anthony

February 20, 2013 12:09 pm

MarkW says:
February 20, 2013 at 12:04 pm
Nobody ever claimed that the sun was the only thing that matters when it comes to temperatures.
so, what other things matter? and why are they not operating now [when we are saying ‘it’s the Sun, stupid’]?

February 20, 2013 12:09 pm

leif says
The Gleissberg ‘cycle’ has been ~107 years the past 400 years; there is no valid debate or doubt about that.
henry says
I am looking at maximum temps.
http://blogs.24.com/henryp/2012/10/02/best-sine-wave-fit-for-the-drop-in-global-maximum-temperatures/
I am not interested in the obscure (20/20 vision related) data like sunspot number you are looking at.

Theo Goodwin
February 20, 2013 12:09 pm

Rud Istvan says:
February 20, 2013 at 11:12 am
“A range of methods from Annan’s informed Bayesian priors to Lewis’ energy balance all suggest the most probable ECS is something between 1.6 and 1.9, and not the 0.5 in Lindzen and Choi’s 2011 paper.”
Bayes’ work can teach you about weaknesses in your betting behavior. It cannot teach you anything about the world that exists independently of you. Bayes’ Theorem is the last refuge of academic Decision Theorists who realized that their work was going nowhere.

February 20, 2013 12:13 pm

Here is one of my charts showing a trend between Solar activity and temperatures since 1865 from a study I’m doing, I have other charts with a the same trend from different temperature data.
This is using minimum temperatures from the Armagh Observatory, The maximum temperatures have an Identical trend to this.
http://thetempestspark.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/nov-ssn-v-feb-tmin-1875-20121.gif

February 20, 2013 12:13 pm

Excellent***** article !!!
So they are looking for the missing heat,
problem is,no one is holding them to the fire.
So Trenberth is stepping it back……Marx says
two steps forward one step back.
Bring back the Guillotine just saying <]"?)
Alfred

Theo Goodwin
February 20, 2013 12:16 pm

Kelvin Vaughan says:
February 20, 2013 at 11:15 am
‘“For example both Hansen and Trenberth have been looking for the missing heat ”
They are looking in the wrong place! It’s the cold that is missing!’
I wonder if Trenberth will some day tell us that his “deep ocean heat” hypothesis violates the foundation upon which he erected his “radiation in equals radiation out” climate theory. His new theory would be “radiation in equals radiation out – on the timescale of the natural processes through which radiation passes during its pilgrimage (to the deep oceans and back) on Earth.”

February 20, 2013 12:18 pm

It’s the Sun, and all the other things. CO2 may have a meager effect, but it’s dwarfed by the Sun et al. CO2 may have a meager effect, or it may no effect. The only support for the albeit widely accepted contention the CO2 effects climate temperatures is a theoretical model. Another theoretical model posits that CO2 has zero effect beyond 200ppm. What model is correct? The one with all the money and media behind it? That’s what we think because we like everyone has been conditioned.
There’s NO empirical evidence for CO2 having an effect, having any effect: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WK_WyvfcJyg&info=GGWarmingSwindle_CO2Lag
With no evidence, none, that CO2 affects the climate, what theoretical model should we give the benefit of the doubt to? I’d say to the one that is more easily consistent with the state of the actual evidence, to the theoretical model that says CO2 doesn’t have any effect higher than 200ppm.

Theo Goodwin
February 20, 2013 12:22 pm

lsvalgaard says:
February 20, 2013 at 12:04 pm
Leif, aren’t you concerned that some day you might get the title of naysayer? 🙂

February 20, 2013 12:26 pm

HenryP says:
February 20, 2013 at 12:09 pm
I am looking at maximum temps […] I am not interested in the obscure (20/20 vision related) data like sunspot number you are looking at.
Well, the Gleissberg ‘cycle’ is claimed to be in sunspot numbers, but it clearly not there http://sidc.be/html/wolfaml.html
What you are looking at is irrelevant as far as the existence of a Gleissberg cycle in sunspot numbers.

February 20, 2013 12:28 pm

CONCLUSION:
Trenberth’s latest work implies that when it is incorporated into the climate models the entire CAGW scare will collapse.

If this whole episode was based on science it might, but I’m afraid it’s not. There’s a long list of human failings tied into this hypothesis.
The models will stop generating abnormal warming, but that won’t stop scaremongering, at least for a while. Plus, as the Sun winds down, the meme will be that it stopped AGW, and as soon as it starts back up, it will start again warming again.
AGW won’t go quietly.

Theo Goodwin
February 20, 2013 12:28 pm

Pat Frank says:
February 20, 2013 at 11:23 am
Very well said. Thanks.

February 20, 2013 12:30 pm

Theo Goodwin says:
February 20, 2013 at 12:22 pm
Leif, aren’t you concerned that some day you might get the title of naysayer? 🙂
Saying ‘no’ to nonsense is an honorable thing I would think: “Science is a way to call the bluff of those who only pretend to knowledge” [Carl Sagan]

RockyRoad
February 20, 2013 12:34 pm

lsvalgaard says:
February 20, 2013 at 11:22 am

RockyRoad says:
February 20, 2013 at 10:29 am
So how many years does the average global temperature have to stay with no statistically significant warming against a continual annual rise in CO2 before you’re willing to concede that CO2 is not even close to being the controlling factor, Leif?
Awaiting your numerical answer….
the numerical answer is ZERO.
But you make the gross error to assume that if it is not CO2 then it must be the Sun.

NOPE! Never said that, Leif–quit putting words in my mouth (or on the Internet), sir–you’re the one making the “gross error” with your assumption, and you know what they say about the word “assume”. 🙂
And thanks for your answer, but from it I might conclude you don’t believe CO2 is a contributing factor AT ALL–it’s nearly impossible to tell!
(But even if it did contribute one insy binsy bit, the benefits of (human-contributed) CO2 FAR OUTWEIGH the negatives to the degree to which CO2 contributes, wouldn’t you agree?)
Of course, if I’m wrong in my comprehension (because the wonderful number ZERO can mean so many things), please enlighten me without telling me what I’m thinking. More specifically, define what you mean by “story”. I’m interested in what you conclude is the role of anthropogenic CO2 in this CAGW meme.
Thanks again–especially if you don’t assume.

Jim Braiden
February 20, 2013 12:45 pm

My apologies- this is pretty much off topic but I wonder if anyone could tell me what might the effect be on the temperature record since 1995 if the El Nino spike of 1998 was removed?
Yes- having an argument and need some help 🙂

davidmhoffer
February 20, 2013 12:48 pm

Rud Istvan
The climate model ECS is to high because the positive water vapor feedback (which must exist just based on basic physics)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Why must this be so? Yes warmer air can hold more water vapour and yes, water vapour is a GHG, but:
1. The atmosphere doesn’t hold maximum water vapour now, so there are factors at play which impose a maximum independent of temperature. Unless we know these mechanisms in detail, we cannot predict what effect increased temps will have on water vapour, and the models thus far have gotten this wrong (among the long list of things they have wrong).
2. Being a GHG means that water vapour absorbs and re-emitts IR in BOTH directions (up and down). The preponderance of water vapour exists in a thin layer close to earth surface while CO2 is relatively uniform from earth surface to top of troposphere. In other words, there must be a negative feedback to downward IR flux from all sources that radiate downward from altitudes above the water vapour layer.
I don’t think the assumption that increased water vapour is by default a positive feedback is as easily justified as one might think.

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