Global Warming: Anthropogenic or Not?

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AN ALTERNATIVE VIEW FROM DOWN UNDER

Professor Robert (Bob) Carter

Geologist & environmental scientist

Katharine Hayhoe, PhD, who wrote the December AITSE piece “Climate Change: Anthropogenic or Not?”, is an atmospheric scientist and director of the Climate Science Center at Texas Tech University. She is senior author of the book “A Climate for Change: Global Warming Facts for Faith-Based Decisions”.

I am a senior research geologist who has published more than 100 peer-reviewed papers on palaeo-environmental and palaeo-climatic topics and also author of the book, “Climate: the Counter Consensus”.

Quite clearly, Dr. Hayhoe and I are both credible professional scientists. Given our training and research specializations, we are therefore competent to assess the evidence regarding the dangerous global warming that the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) alleges is being caused by industrial carbon dioxide emissions.

Yet at the end of her article Dr. Hayhoe recommends for further reading the websites RealClimate.org and SkepticalScience.com, whereas here at the outset of writing my own article I recommend the websites wattsupwiththat.com and www.thegwpf.org (Global Warming Policy Foundation). To knowledgeable readers, this immediately signals that Dr. Hayhoe and I have diametrically opposing views on the global warming issue.

The general public finds it very hard to understand how such strong disagreement can exist between two equally qualified persons on a scientific topic, a disagreement that is manifest also on the wider scene by the existence of equivalent groups of scientists who either support or oppose the views of the IPCC about dangerous anthropogenic (human-caused) global warming (DAGW).

In this article I shall try to summarize what the essential disagreement is between these two groups of scientists, and show how it has come to be misrepresented in the public domain.

Common ground amongst DAGW protagonists

Though you wouldn’t know it from the antagonistic nature of public discussions about global warming, a large measure of scientific agreement and shared interpretation exists amongst nearly all scientists who consider the issue. The common ground, much of which was traversed by Dr. Hayhoe in her article, includes:

· that climate has always changed and always will,

· that carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas and warms the lower atmosphere,

· that human emissions are accumulating in the atmosphere,

· that a global warming of around 0.5OC occurred in the 20th century, but

· that global warming has ceased over the last 15 years.

The scientific argument over DAGW is therefore about none of these things. Rather, it is almost entirely about three other, albeit related, issues. They are:

· the amount of net warming that is, or will be, produced by human-related emissions,

· whether any actual evidence exists for dangerous warming of human causation over the last 50 years, and

· whether the IPCC’s computer models can provide accurate climate predictions 100 years into the future.

Dr. Hayhoe’s answers to those questions would probably be along the line of: substantial, lots and yes. My answers would be: insignificant, none and no.

What can possibly explain such disparate responses to a largely agreed set of factual climate data?

How does science work?

Arguments about global warming, or more generally about climate change, are concerned with a scientific matter. Science deals with facts, experiments and numerical representations of the natural world around us. Science does not deal with emotions, beliefs or politics, but rather strives to analyse matters dispassionately and in an objective way, such that in consideration of a given set of facts two different practitioners might come to the same interpretation; and, yes, I am aware of the irony of that statement in the present context.

Which brings us to the matter of Occam’s Razor and the null hypothesis. William of Occam (1285-1347) was an English Franciscan monk and philosopher to whom is attributed the saying ‘Pluralitas non est ponenda sine necessitate’, which translates as ‘Plurality should not be posited without necessity.’ This is a succinct statement of the principle of simplicity, or parsimony, that was first developed by Aristotle and which has today come to underlie all scientific endeavour.

The phrase ‘Occam’s Razor’ is now generally used as shorthand to represent the fundamental scientific assumption of simplicity. To explain any given set of observations of the natural world, scientific method proceeds by erecting, first, the simplest possible explanation (hypothesis) that can explain the known facts. This simple explanation, termed the null hypothesis, then becomes the assumed interpretation until additional facts emerge that require modification of the initial hypothesis, or perhaps even invalidate it altogether.

Given the great natural variability exhibited by climate records, and the failure to date to compartmentalize or identify a human signal within them, the proper null hypothesis – because it is the simplest consistent with the known facts – is that global climate changes are presumed to be natural, unless and until specific evidence is forthcoming for human causation.

It is one of the more extraordinary facts about the IPCC that the research studies it favours mostly proceed using an (unjustified) inversion of the null hypothesis  – namely that global climate changes are presumed to be due to human-related carbon dioxide emissions, unless and until specific evidence indicates otherwise.

What hypothesis do we wish to test?

Though climate science overall is complex, the greenhouse hypothesis itself is straightforward and it is relatively simple to test it, or its implications, against the available data. First, though, we need to be crystal clear about precisely what we mean by the term.

In general communication, and in the media, the terms greenhouse and greenhouse hypothesis have come to carry a particular vernacular meaning – almost independently of their scientific derivation. When an opinion poll or a reporter solicits information on what members of the public think about the issue they ask questions such as “do you believe in global warming”, “do you believe in climate change” or “do you believe in the greenhouse effect”.

Leaving aside the issue that science is never about belief, all such questions are actually coded ones, being understood by the public to mean “is dangerous global warming being caused by human-related emissions of carbon dioxide”. Needless to say, this is a different, albeit related, question. These and other sloppy ambiguities (“carbon” for “carbon dioxide”, for example) are in daily use in the media, and they lead to great confusion in the public discussion about climate change; they also undermine the value of nearly all opinion poll results.

The DAGW hypothesis that I want to test here is precisely and only “that dangerous global warming is being caused, or will be, by human-related carbon dioxide emissions”. To be “dangerous”, at a minimum the change must exceed the magnitude or rate of warmings that are known to be associated with normal weather and climatic variability.

What evidence can we use to test the DAGW hypothesis?

Many different lines of evidence can be used to test the DAGW hypothesis. Here I have space to present just five, all of which are based upon real world empirical data. For more information, please read both Dr. Hayhoe’s and my book.

Consider the following tests:

(i)     Over the last 16 years, global average temperature, as measured by both thermometers and satellite sensors, has displayed no statistically significant warming; over the same period, atmospheric carbon dioxide has increased by 10%.

Large increases in carbon dioxide have therefore not only failed to produce dangerous warming, but failed to produce any warming at all. Hypothesis fails.

(ii)   During the 20th century, a global warming of between 0.4O C and 0.7O C occurred, at a maximum rate, in the early decades of the century, of about 1.7O C/century. In comparison, our best regional climate records show that over the last 10,000 years natural climate cycling has resulted in temperature highs up to at least 1O C warmer than today, at rates of warming up to  2.5O C/century.

In other words, both the rate and magnitude of 20th century warming falls well within the envelope of natural climate change. Hypothesis fails, twice.

(iii)  If global temperature is controlled primarily by atmospheric carbon dioxide levels, then changes in carbon dioxide should precede parallel changes in temperature.

In fact, the opposite relationship applies at all time scales. Temperature change precedes carbon dioxide change by about 5 months during the annual seasonal cycle, and by about 700-1000 years during ice age climatic cycling. Hypothesis fails.

(iv)  The IPCC’s computer general circulation models, which factor in the effect of increasing carbon dioxide, project that global warming should be occurring at a rate of +2.0O C/century.

In fact, no warming at all has occurred in either the atmosphere or the ocean for more than the last decade. The models are clearly faulty, and allocate too great a warming effect for the extra carbon dioxide (technically, they are said to overestimate the climate sensitivity). Hypothesis fails.

(v)    The same computer models predict that a fingerprint of greenhouse-gas-induced warming will be the creation of an atmospheric hot spot at heights of 8-10 km in equatorial regions, and enhanced warming also near both poles.

Given that we already know that the models are faulty, it shouldn’t surprise us to discover that direct measurements by both weather balloon radiosondes and satellite sensors show the absence of surface warming in Antarctica, and a complete absence of the predicted low latitude atmospheric hot spot. Hypothesis fails, twice.

One of the 20th century’s greatest physicists, Richard Feynman, observed about science that:

In general we look for a new law by the following process. First we guess it. Then we compute the consequences of the guess to see what would be implied if this law that we guessed is right. Then we compare the result of the computation to nature, with experiment or experience; compare it directly with observation, to see if it works.

It’s that simple statement that is the key to science. It does not make any difference how beautiful your guess is. It does not make any difference how smart you are, who made the guess, or what his name is. If it disagrees with experiment it is wrong.

None of the five tests above supports or agrees with the predictions implicit in the greenhouse hypothesis as stated above. Richard Feynman is correct to advise us that therefore the hypothesis is invalid, and that many times over.

Summary

The current scientific reality is that the IPCC’s hypothesis of dangerous global warming has been repeatedly tested, and fails. Despite the expenditure of large sums of money over the last 25 years (more than $100 billion),  and great research effort by IPCC-related and other (independent) scientists, to date no scientific study has established a certain link between changes in any significant environmental parameter and human-caused carbon dioxide emissions.

In contrast, the null hypothesis that the global climatic changes that we have observed over the last 150 years (and continue to observe today) are natural in origin has yet to be disproven. As summarised by an seo consultant in the reports of the Nongovernmental International Panel on Climate Change (NIPCC), literally thousands of papers published in refereed journals contain facts or writings consistent with the null hypothesis, and plausible natural explanations exist for all the post-1850 global climatic changes that have been described so far.

Why is this conclusion not generally understood?

I commented earlier that science is not about emotion or politics, despite which it is uncomfortably true also that public discussion of the global warming issue is conducted far more in accordance with those criteria than it is about science. As discussed at more length in my book, there are three prime reasons for this.

First, as a branch of the United Nations, the IPCC is itself an intensely political and not a scientific body. To boot, the IPCC charter requires that it investigate not climate change in the round, but solely global warming caused by human greenhouse emissions.

Second, from local green activist groups up to behemoth NGOs like Greenpeace and WWF, over the last 20 years the environmental movement has espoused saving the planet from global warming as its leit motif. This has had two devastating results. One is that radical environmentalists have worked relentlessly to sow misinformation about global warming in both the public domain and the education system. And the other is that, faced with this widespread propagandization of public opinion and young persons, and by also by strong lobbying from powerful self-interested groups like government research scientists, alternative energy providers and financial marketeers, politicians have had no choice but to fall into line. Whatever their primary political philosophy, all active politicians are daily mindful of the need to assuage the green intimidation and bullying to which they and their constituents are incessantly subjected.

Third, and probably most influential of all, with very few exceptions major media outlets have provided unceasing support for measures to “stop global warming”. This behaviour appears to be driven by a combination of the liberal and green personal beliefs of most reporters, and the commercial nouse of experienced editors who understand that alarmist environmental reporting sells both product and advertising space.

But given that the science remains uncertain, shouldn’t we give earth the benefit of the doubt?

This famous slogan (and note its deliberately emotive phrasing) is attributed to News Corporation’s Rupert Murdoch; it bears all the hallmarks of having been produced by a green focus group or advertising agency. The catchy phrase also reveals a profound misunderstanding of the real climatic risks faced by our societies, because it assumes that global warming is more dangerous, or more to be feared, than is global cooling; in reality, the converse is likely to be true.

It must be recognized that the theoretical hazard of dangerous human-caused global warming is but one small part of a much wider climate hazard that all scientists agree upon, which is the dangerous natural weather and climatic events that Nature intermittently presents us with – and always will. It is absolutely clear from, for example, the 2005 Hurricane Katrina and 2012 Hurricane Sandy disasters in the US, the 2007 floods in the United Kingdom and the tragic bushfires in Australia in 2003 (Canberra), 2009 (Victoria) and in January this year (widespread), that the governments of even advanced, wealthy countries are often inadequately prepared for climate-related disasters of natural origin.

We need to do better, and squandering money to give earth the benefit of the doubt based upon an unjustifiable assumption that dangerous warming will shortly resume is exactly the wrong type of “picking winners” approach.

Because many scientists, including leading solar physicists, currently argue that the position that the Earth currently occupies in the solar cycle implies that the most likely climatic trend over the next several decades is one of significant cooling rather than warming.  Meanwhile, the IPCC’s computer modellers assure us with all the authority at their command that global warming will shortly resume – just you wait and see.

The reality is, then, that no scientist on the planet can tell you with credible probability whether the climate in 2030 will be cooler or warmer than today. In such circumstances the only rational conclusion to draw is that we need to be prepared to react to either warming or cooling over the next several decades, depending upon what Nature chooses to serve up to us.

What is the best way forward?

Given that we cannot predict what future climate will be, do we still need national climate policies at all?

Indeed we do, for a primary government duty of care is to protect the citizenry and the environment from the ravages of natural climatic events. What is needed is not unnecessary and penal measures against carbon dioxide emissions, but instead a prudent and cost-effective policy of preparation for, and response to, all climatic events and hazards as and when they develop.

As Ronald Brunner and Amanda Lynch have argued in their recent book, Adaptive Governance and Climate Change, and many other scientists have supported too:

We need to use adaptive governance to produce response programs that cope with hazardous climate events as they happen, and that encourage diversity and innovation in the search for solutions. In such a fashion, the highly contentious ‘global warming’ problem can be recast into an issue in which every culture and community around the world has an inherent interest.

Climate hazard is both a geological and meteorological issue. Geological hazards are mostly dealt with by providing civil defense authorities and the public with accurate, evidence-based information regarding events such as earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, tsunamis, storms and floods (which represent climatic as well as weather events), and by mitigating and adapting to the effects when an event occurs.

New Zealand’s GeoNet natural hazard network is a world-best-practice example of how to proceed. GeoNet is New Zealand’s national natural hazard monitoring agency. GeoNet operates networks of geophysical instruments to detect, analyse and respond to earthquakes, volcanic activity, landslides and tsunami. The additional risk of longer-term climate change, which GeoNet currently doesn’t cover, differs from most other natural hazards only in that it occurs over periods of decades to hundreds or thousands of years. This difference is not one of kind, and neither should be our response planning.

The appropriate response to climate hazard, then, is national policies based on preparing for and adapting to all climate events as and when they happen, and irrespective of their presumed cause. Every country needs to develop its own understanding of, and plans to cope with, the unique combination of climate hazards that apply within its boundaries. The planned responses should be based upon adaptation, with mitigation where appropriate to cushion citizens who are affected in an undesirable way.

The idea that there can be a one-size-fits-all global solution to deal with just one possible aspect of future climate change, as recommended by the IPCC and favoured by green activists and most media commentators, fails entirely to deal with the real climate and climate-related hazards to which we are all exposed every day.

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Robert (Bob) Carter is a marine geologist and environmental scientist with more than 40 years professional experience who has held academic positions at the University of Otago (Dunedin) and James Cook University (Townsville), where he was Professor and Head of School of Earth Sciences between 1981 and 1999. His career has included periods as a Commonwealth Scholar (Cambridge University), a Nuffield Fellow (Oxford University) and an Australian Research Council Special Investigator. Bob has acted as an expert witness on climate change before the U.S. Senate Committee of Environment & Public Works, the Australian and N.Z. parliamentary Select Committees into emissions trading, and was a primary science witness in the U.K. High Court case of Dimmock v. H.M.’s Secretary of State for Education, the 2007 judgement from which identified nine major scientific errors in Mr Al Gore’s film “An Inconvenient Truth“. Carter is author of the book, Climate: the Counter Consensus (2010, Stacey International Ltd., London).

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Bruce Cobb
January 30, 2013 5:15 am

“Given that we cannot predict what future climate will be, do we still need national climate policies at all?
Indeed we do, for a primary government duty of care is to protect the citizenry and the environment from the ravages of natural climatic events.”
Here in the U.S. we have FEMA, the Federal Emergency Management Agency for that. I don’t believe we need a “climate policy” overlaid on top of that, especially since there is no agreement as to where climate is headed.

January 30, 2013 5:22 am

Reblogged this on gottadobetterthanthis and commented:
In this lengthy article, Dr. Carter makes the point that the Greenies are pushing for drastic measures to curtail one possible future climatic condition. The fact is, there are many possible future climatic conditions. The earth might do something completely unexpected. Mother Nature doesn’t care. I’ll repeat, Mother Nature DOES NOT care. Not at all. She will minimize Gibbs Free Energy, nothing more, nothing less. The natural systems will alter to equilibrate in the long run. Since cooling is also possible, even likely, why not prepare to respond to change, rather than try to prevent it? (That is Dr. Carter’s suggestion, if you read it all.) To answer myself, I’ll say the Greenies care not for preparation, they only care for control. Political power and control. Progressivism at its worst.

Alan D McIntire
January 30, 2013 5:35 am

In addition to relying on the scientific method and rational argument, which for most people won’t work most of the time- we cannot all be knowledgeable about EVERYTHING- we can back up our skepticism by observing human behavior. Everyone,, even religious fundamentalists who believe the world is only 6000 years old, interacts with and observes other humans. We all
become aware of con artists who try to get us to donate to
questionable charities, try to sell us products which will make us
appear younger, slimmer, and have more hair on our heads
IF CAGW were a legitimate concern, would believers be burning CO2 by
flying to conferences in Kyoto, Copenhagen, and Rio? If human produced
CO2 is such a serious threat, wouldn’t it make more sense to
have “teleconferences” instead of meeting in person? Shouldn’t CAGWers
who actually believe in the seriousness of the situation be setting an
example on drastically cutting back energy use? . Our natural
ability to detect “huxterism” helps us spot the CAGW scammers
who preach “do as I say, not as I do”.

Dr. Paul Mackey
January 30, 2013 5:36 am

Wow – what a lucid piece of argument. If only all protagonists in the climate change debate had such clarity.

DirkH
January 30, 2013 5:37 am

philjourdan says:
January 30, 2013 at 4:59 am
“@DirkH – “She tries to sell “regional climate modeling” and looks for suckers to be parted from their money.”
But is not her rabid denial of reality a deal killer in the end? ”
I did not say she is successful. I said she tries. Maybe with success – The US govt finances many idiotic endeavours, for instance.
On the other hand, universities churn out a whole generation of climate modeling leeches so I guess it’s tough business.

Reply to  DirkH
January 30, 2013 6:53 am

@DirkH – “I did not say she is successful. I said she tries. Maybe with success – The US govt finances many idiotic endeavours, for instance.”
Ah yes! Label her company green, and she needs no customers, just the federal trough.
And yes, you did not say she was successful. My mistake in assuming that everyone who starts a business wanted a successful one.

January 30, 2013 5:43 am

TheBigYinJames says
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/01/30/global-warming-anthropogenic-or-not/#comment-1212223
Henry says
no worries. I think Bob Carter is even a bit optimistic by showing a zero line for 15 or 16 years.
Actually it is like this:
http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/hadcrut4gl/from:2002/to:2013/plot/hadcrut4gl/from:2002/to:2013/trend/plot/hadcrut3vgl/from:2002/to:2013/plot/hadcrut3vgl/from:2002/to:2013/trend/plot/rss/from:2002/to:2013/plot/rss/from:2002/to:2013/trend/plot/gistemp/from:2002/to:2013/plot/gistemp/from:2002/to:2013/trend/plot/hadsst2gl/from:2002/to:2013/plot/hadsst2gl/from:2002/to:2013/trend
i.e. a negative trend over the past 11 years – in other words: earth is cooling.
All this while CO2 is still going up
http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/esrl-co2/from:1993/to:2013/plot/esrl-co2/from:1993/to:2013/trend
By plotting the Gleissberg solar/weather cycle I was able to ascertain that all warming in the past was natural and therefore it is just plain fact that climate change will occur now due to further global cooling.
The worst of the cooling period will be around 2028 – 2038, similar to 1940-1950 (the Gleissberg cycle is 88 years)
http://blogs.24.com/henryp/2013/01/24/our-earth-is-cooling/

Peter Stilbs
January 30, 2013 5:45 am

Thanks Bob – spot on

Chuck Nolan
January 30, 2013 5:46 am

One complaint is the use of DAGW
Where did this term come from?
Why didn’t you use CAGW?
Do you think alarmists could accept the word Dangerous instead?
cn

richardscourtney
January 30, 2013 5:47 am

TheBigYinJames, Grizzled Bear and Surfer Dave:
I write to comment on your different views of the Null Hypothesis as it applies to AGW in hope of clarifying the issue.
Your different views are stated in your posts in this thread which I list here:
TheBigYinJames writes at January 30, 2013 at 12:59 am
Grizzled Bear writes at January 30, 2013 at 4:30 am
Surfer Dave writes at January 30, 2013 at 1:24 am.
My comment is as follows.
The Null Hypothesis says it must be assumed a system has not experienced a change unless there is evidence of a change.
The Null Hypothesis is a fundamental scientific principle and forms the basis of all scientific understanding, investigation and interpretation. Indeed, it is the basic principle of experimental procedure where an input to a system is altered to discern a change: if the system is not observed to respond to the alteration then it has to be assumed the system did not respond to the alteration.
In the case of climate science there is a hypothesis that increased greenhouse gases (GHGs, notably CO2) in the air will increase global temperature. There are good reasons to suppose this hypothesis may be true, but the Null Hypothesis says it must be assumed the GHG changes have no effect unless and until increased GHGs are observed to increase global temperature. That is what the scientific method decrees. It does not matter how certain some people may be that the hypothesis is right because observation of reality (i.e. empiricism) trumps all opinions.
Please note that the Null Hypothesis is a hypothesis which exists to be refuted by empirical observation. It is a rejection of the scientific method to assert that one can “choose” any subjective Null Hypothesis one likes. There is only one Null Hypothesis: i.e. it has to be assumed a system has not changed unless it is observed that the system has changed.
In the case of global climate no unprecedented climate behaviours are observed so the Null Hypothesis decrees that the climate system has not changed.
Importantly, an effect may be real but not overcome the Null Hypothesis because it is too trivial for the effect to be observable. Human activities have some effect on global temperature for several reasons. An example of an anthropogenic effect on global temperature is the urban heat island (UHI). Cities are warmer than the land around them, so cities cause some warming. But the temperature rise from cities is too small to be detected when averaged over the entire surface of the planet, although this global warming from cities can be estimated by measuring the warming of all cities and their areas.
Clearly, the Null Hypothesis decrees that UHI is not affecting global temperature although there are good reasons to think UHI has some effect. Similarly, it is very probable that AGW from GHG emissions are too trivial to have observable effects.
The feedbacks in the climate system are negative and, therefore, any effect of increased CO2 will be probably too small to discern because natural climate sensitivity is much, much larger. This concurs with the empirically determined values of low climate sensitivity.
Empirical – n.b. not model-derived – determinations indicate climate sensitivity is less than 1.0deg.C for a doubling of atmospheric CO2 equivalent. This is indicated by the studies of Idso from surface measurements
http://www.warwickhughes.com/papers/Idso_CR_1998.pdf
and Lindzen & Choi from ERBE satelite data
http://www.drroyspencer.com/Lindzen-and-Choi-GRL-2009.pdf
and Gregory from balloon radiosonde data
http://www.friendsofscience.org/assets/documents/OLR&NGF_June2011.pdf
Indeed, because climate sensitivity is less than 1 .0deg.C for a doubling of CO2 equivalent, it is physically impossible for the man-made global warming to be large enough to be detected (just as the global warming from UHI is too small to be detected). If something exists but is too small to be detected then it only has an abstract existence; it does not have a discernible existence that has effects (observation of the effects would be its detection).
To date there are no discernible effects of AGW. Hence, the Null Hypothesis decrees that AGW does not affect global climate to a discernible degree. That is the ONLY scientific conclusion possible at present.
Richard

January 30, 2013 5:47 am

But given that the science remains uncertain, shouldn’t we give earth the benefit of the doubt?
The benefit of who’s doubt?
From the beginning, the AGW scam has been foisted upon the public in terms of carbon credits, taxes, subsidies and mandates. Like all scams, money is the key factor in it’s advancement. $$$ for grants to endlessly study the scam, $$$ to build solutions for well placed cronies, $$$ for environmental groups preaching the end of the world to concerned contributors, $$$ in taxes for politicians to squander in a manner not even related to the problem.
IF this were one of purely scientific concern or exploration, then the $$$ would be minimal, and as a result spent very wisely to economically determine IF there was a problem. What we have instead is the Piltdown Man hoax.
Doubt is nothing more than the inability of the advocate to convince a quorum and for this we should go along with naive and the gullible to lower our standard of living? I say let the naive and gullible be fleeced today, because maybe tomorrow they will learn their lesson.

dcfl51
January 30, 2013 5:51 am

To Peter White,
Take a look at the following chart :-
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/879/co2lagkz2.png
There is a remarkable correlation between the temperature graph and the CO2 advanced by 5 months. Now try to imagine how it would look if the CO2 line were moved forward 7 months rather than back 5 months – nothing like the same correlation. I don’t think there’s any doubt that it is the temperature changes which lead the CO2 changes.

richardscourtney
January 30, 2013 5:55 am

Johan E G Silén:
At January 30, 2013 at 1:45 am you write

when I am at it:
I have never exactly understood what the global mean temperature GMT is a measure for. Even less how the validity and realibility criteria can be met. Nor I have ever been told the ideal value of GMT, but many times what it shouldn’t be.
Climate has always changed and always will. If we want to measure deviation why don’t we use the standard deviation, the statistical measure for this purpose. All the job is done already.

The answers to your question are in Appendix B of the item at
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200910/cmselect/cmsctech/memo/climatedata/uc0102.htm
I think you will also want to read all of that item and also the WUWT article and all of its thread at
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/01/23/a-question-for-zeke-hausfather/
I hope this helps.
Richard

izen
January 30, 2013 6:01 am

@- Bob Carter
(i) Over the last 16 years, global average temperature, as measured by both thermometers and satellite sensors, has displayed no statistically significant warming; over the same period, atmospheric carbon dioxide has increased by 10%.
Of course the warming IS statistically significant over 14 or 18 years, the 16 year period is a cherry pick.
But more to the point, there has been no statistically significant cooling over sixteen years while the natural factors that are attributed to be the cause of cooling in the past, the PDO, AMO, ENSO and a deep solar minima are all in play. Either these natural factors are having no influence this decade, or something else is offsetting the expected effect of these factors.
As John N-G shows the warming measured is entily consistant with the warming predicted from the CO2 rise.
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(ii) During the 20th century, a global warming of between 0.4O C and 0.7O C occurred, at a maximum rate, in the early decades of the century, of about 1.7O C/century. In comparison, our best regional climate records show that over the last 10,000 years natural climate cycling has resulted in temperature highs up to at least 1O C warmer than today, at rates of warming up to 2.5O C/century.
The past extremes are local phenomina not global and synchronous. The obvious evidence for the exceptionality of the present warming is on the lack of past sea level rise during those historical extremes compared to the thmal expansion of the oceans seen now.
(iii) If global temperature is controlled primarily by atmospheric carbon dioxide levels, then changes in carbon dioxide should precede parallel changes in temperature.
In fact, the opposite relationship applies at all time scales. Temperature change precedes carbon dioxide change by about 5 months during the annual seasonal cycle, and by about 700-1000 years during ice age climatic cycling. Hypothesis fails.
An old canard. The season changes in CO2 are related to differences in the biosphere between the north and south hemispheres. The ice age cycle is initiated by orbital changes, the CO2 changes are required to explain the full amount of temperature change from glacial to interstadal however.
(iv) The IPCC’s computer general circulation models, which factor in the effect of increasing carbon dioxide, project that global warming should be occurring at a rate of +2.0O C/century.
That is an equilibrium figure not expected to be reached until all the effects of the extra energy from raised CO2 have impacted the system.
(v) The same computer models predict that a fingerprint of greenhouse-gas-induced warming will be the creation of an atmospheric hot spot at heights of 8-10 km in equatorial regions, and enhanced warming also near both poles.
Wrong. Basic physics predicts that ANY warming, including from El Nino events will cause a ‘hot spot’.
But present day measurement methods are not yet sufficiently sensitive to detect these small divergences in temperature from the background noise. They are certainly not yet good enough to detect the change in a hot spot for the <1degC warming seen so far.
Polar amplification has been seen at the North pole of course, the Antarctic however is significantly decoupled from the global climate and still effected by the ozone depletion from CFCs causing an intensification of the circumpolar vortex.
Pretending that the inability to measure changes in the hot spot refutes it, or ignoring other known factors that modify polar climate is disingenuous at best.

Chuck Nolan
January 30, 2013 6:02 am

Excellent stuff, Bob.
I found one too many bys in a sentence
“young persons, and by also by strong lobbying from “

Bobl
January 30, 2013 6:03 am

I have corresponded with Bob before and he is a remarkably clear thinking Sober person. I Happen to agree with most everything he writes. It was Bob that converted me from a believer to a scientific literate on this subject. There is enormous risk in plonking all our eggs into an enormous multi-billion dollar warming basket. The risk is we’ll forget the other side and be totally unprepared for a cold shift, after all we are effectively being told such a shift is impossible. The 2011 Queensland Australia flood was a stark example of what such a folly does, The government wanted to believe that in the land of droughts and flooding rains, the flooding rains were gone for all time and they could hold the flood mitigation dam at maximum, How wrong they were, and now that government is just a memory, just 7 left of that party after the election.
Bob, also makes the case for misdirection of funds away from solving the human problems of poverty and disease into the trendy green Behemoth NGOs who then proceed to waste it all on anti-human campaigns. This is where Agenda 21 derives from.
I have said before we need to target the greens soft vulnerable underbelly, the anti-human agenda which does not represent the beliefs of most of their naive followers. Most greens supporters really don’t think we should kill pensioners by forcing them into fuel poverty, or process the food eaten by the poor into ethanol to burn in our cars, or even throw money at windmills that could be spent on cures for cancer, or immunizing poor children against death by measles. I find pointing out that the next best fuel to coal is flour works. Burns great in blast furnaces. Most intelligent supporters believe Humans first, then the environment – Their lack of morality, the antihumanism is the key to their downfall

richardscourtney
January 30, 2013 6:04 am

izen:
I write to comment on your post at January 30, 2013 at 3:26 am because I very rarely find myself in agreement with you. You say

Sorry, but the idea that Hayhoe and Carter are equally credible scientists in the research community could only be greeted with incredulity.

Yes! Absolutely!
It is a ridiculous idea that Hayhoe comes near to Carter’s high standards of scientific ability and credibility. Carter’s suggestion that he and Hayhoe could be considered to be comparable shows Carter’s great humility.
Richard

David L. Hagen
January 30, 2013 6:06 am

Bob
Excellent summary.
Where more time/space is available, we can appeal to “Einstein’s Razor”

Make things as simple as possible, but not simpler

The DAGW hypothesis is too simple – by attributing too much to anthropogenic CO2 without adequately accounting for the null hypothesis of nonlinear chaotic solar, atmospheric and oceanic fluctuations, especially the highest uncertainty of clouds.

Editor
January 30, 2013 6:06 am

TheBigYinJames says:
January 30, 2013 at 12:59 am

Good article, one small beef though: Although it pains me to say it, the lack of warming in the last 16 years does not automatically void the assumption of a link between CO2 and warming, because there could be hysteresis, time delays in the system.

Except then you have to explain the 20 years of warming before that. Assuming the CO2 increase is primarily due to burning fossil fuel (I accept that, in other eras oceans warming could lead to CO2 release later), then the temperature increase has to lag CO2, and it’s hard to explain the warming followed by level just by relying on CO2.
Where did “DAGW” come from? I don’t think I’ve seen it before. And how do we distinguish between it and Beneficial AGW? 🙂
Always nice to see a new essay from Bob Carter. He was the first scientist I contacted directly about climate stuff. His videos defending the scientific method were very good. That and his geologist’s common sense make him one of the most valuable people in the battle.

Mark Hladik
January 30, 2013 6:07 am

An excellent summary. It is my opinion that anyone who disagrees with this analysis has no interest in science.
Please feel free to cut and paste this comment somewhere on “RealClimate” and “SkepticalScience”, WITH my real name and contact information.
But do not forget the post by Dr. Carter also!
Mark H.

January 30, 2013 6:13 am

There is a correlation between atmospheric CO2 content and ice ages in the geological past.. Certainly CO2 has no warming effect but its reaction to LIR could make the atmosphere cool faster.

RockyRoad
January 30, 2013 6:13 am

The article states:

The DAGW hypothesis that I want to test here is precisely and only “that dangerous global warming is being caused, or will be, by human-related carbon dioxide emissions”. To be “dangerous”, at a minimum the change must exceed the magnitude or rate of warmings that are known to be associated with normal weather and climatic variability.

My question is this: Why is it considered dangerous that “the change must exceed the magnitude or rate of warmings that are known to be associated with normal weather and climatic variability”??
By analogy, man traveled by horse-drawn chariot or buggy for thousands of years. Along comes mechanized transportation that lets man travel many times faster and that’s somehow considered “dangerous”?
I think this relatively new term “dangerous” applied to the CAGW meme simply demonstrates the Warmistas are lowering the bar and stepping back from the term “catastrophic”. I wouldn’t be surprised in the future if they drop the “dangerous” term altogether, then try to dissociate themselves from all this silly scaremongering.
They used to chase witches–now they chase CO2 goblins. I wonder what they’ll be chasing next?

January 30, 2013 6:24 am

vukcevic says:
January 30, 2013 at 2:15 am
Another alternative view, suggest that the more comprehensive records of the N. Hemisphere suggest that the natural temperature oscillations origins are combination of factors from ‘down under’ (the Earth’s interior) and ‘up above’ (solar output)
It is this kinds of nonsense that mars WUWT and detracts from the valid points Carter makes.

January 30, 2013 6:25 am

Gerald Wilhite says:
January 30, 2013 at 3:07 am
Professor Carter, your logic and presentations always make me yearn to sit in your classroom. Would you please elaborate on the differences in the websites you and Dr. Hayhoe recommend?
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January 30, 2013 6:28 am

HenryP says:
January 30, 2013 at 5:43 am
By plotting the Gleissberg solar/weather cycle I was able to ascertain that all warming in the past was natural
There is no such weather cycle and there is currently no such solar cycle [it is more like 105 years, but is not a real cycle].

Latitude
January 30, 2013 6:30 am

that a global warming of around 0.5OC occurred in the 20th century, but
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I don’t even believe that any more……………
http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/data-tampering-at-ushcngiss/