Guest post by David Middleton
First up: Yoko Ono and friends…
‘Fracking kills’: Yoko Ono joins star-studded cast fighting against hydraulic natural gas drilling in upstate New York
John Lennon’s son Sean Lennon, actress Debra Winger, songstress Natalie Merchant and “The Avengers” actor Mark Ruffalo have also spoken out in opposition to the extraction process criticized for potentially contaminating water supplies and damaging the environment.
By Glenn Blain / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Published: Friday, January 11, 2013
ALBANY — Hydrofracking is not the most glamorous of issues but the gritty subject is bringing a lot of glitz to the state Capitol.
Yoko Ono, the widow of ex-Beatle John Lennon, and son Sean Lennon became the latest celebrities to visit Albany Friday to press for a ban on the controversial natural gas drilling.
“Fracking kills,” Ono said at a press conference with other drilling opponents. “And it doesn’t just kill us, it kills the land, nature and eventually the whole world.”
[…]
Now it’s the 4th graders’ turn…
Fourth-graders have concluded fracking’s bad
By Steve Israel
Published: 2:00 AM – 01/13/13
If it were up to nearly four dozen future voters at a Middletown elementary school, fracking would be banned in New York — and the rest of the world.
Just listen to what those fourth-graders at Maple Hill Elementary School have to say about the controversial natural gas extraction method of hydraulic fracturing, or fracking:
“It could cause methane explosions, poison water and kill people. It killed cattle,” says 9-year-old Philip Gazer.
“Sometimes, because of fracking, earthquakes could happen,” says 9-year-old Sagnik Chakraborty, citing minor earthquakes in Ohio apparently caused by the underground injection of fracking waste.
Bottom line for the fourth-graders in the classes of Mary Hayes and Patricia McGorry?
“We don’t want to be poisoned by fracking,” says 11-year-old Nancy Jaime.
[…]
There you have it. Yoko Ono is either not smarter than a 4th grader or she has a strong desire to spend winters freezing in the dark. The wellhead price for natural gas in the US is currently in the range of $3.00 to $3.50/mcf.
The shale boom is the single biggest reason why natural gas prices are so low in the USA compared to most of the rest of the world…
Without fracking, there would be no shale boom and US natural gas prices could be $8/mcf or higher.
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Yoko can take direct personal action to offset her carbon emissions from jetting about and limo use by visiting my blog and voluntarily buying carbon credits – which will keep me cycling througout this winter. Come on Yoko, you know it’s the right thing to do. Help me help save the planet today. Peace out..
Nothing to do with Yoko or fracking, but this item certainly tells you the absurd lengths some Greens will go to to further their dogma: http://www.iiwsoc.com/wordpress/?p=3174
Interesting and relevant blog post on gas prices in New England.
http://nohotair.co.uk/gas-guru-blog/shale-gas-2012/164-lng/2737-new-england-s-lack-of-shale-lesson-for-old-england
Yoko & Sean get a mention.
As nite01007 says, they won’t be doing any shivering….
A few days ago the midland counties of the UK were jolted by an earth tremor which was rated at 2.9 on the Richter scale. If I understand the scale correctly, that is close to double the strength of the two tremors linked to fracking recently, and it covered a much bigger area.
It was reported as a harmless curiosity – no mention of damage. One interviewee said that a few CDs fell off a shelf!
Imagine the furore and spurious alarms if it had been linked to fracking in any way.
Can anyone here list all the chemicals used by the fracking companies ?
Can anybody tell me what quantities of said chemicals are used ?
Can anybody tell me what regulation’s, oversight and inspections are carried out ?
Why do you think many people are concerned about fracking ?
Yes, if we were all to have cheap fuel that would diminish their ability to direct our life styles and their control over us. You can see why they are worried. A bit stupid to do it while it’s cold though.
Not only is she not smarter than a fourth grader, the teacher isn’t smarter than Yoko Ono. Those kids are being horribly mis-taught.
As someone from the same country I’m sorry for this farce……….
A few things:
A web-site discloses the frac water composition and has tons of information:
http://fracfocus.org/
The industry is pushing for regulations to have everything disclosed and use only natural and eco substances – this is true for USA and Canada.
Another site is here;
http://www.hydraulicfracturing.com
It has never been demonstrated that hydraulic fracturing causes noticeable earthquakes – but we have seen some small ones associated with the injection well sites, where the water gets injected into the ground. This was possibly caused because existing faults then slipped when high amounts of water that got pumped in.
Fracturing is an activity that is dangerous and tight safety rules are in place. Driving cars is also dangerous – but we still educate people and let them do it. Same with fracking. No industry is willing to take risks or do jobs where their business gets shut down. Fracking has been done for more than 60 years. Yes, over 1 million frac jobs have been completed since then.
When hydraulic fracturing – the most critical thing is to have a good casing, so the cementing job is absolutely critical. With deep fracturing jobs (>3000 ft or 1000 m), rock layers of 10-300 ft or ~100 m get stimulated – most often only 40-50 ft thick packages. There is no way that these could produce fracture networks that penetrate all the way up to the surface. Several studies and microseismic data have demonstrated that.
In shallow fracturing jobs (<3000 ft or 1000m), regulations are in place to use only fluids that if they enter waterways or aquifers, the water quality falls within the boundaries of drinking water. I.e. they cannot exceed chemical levels of drinking water standards.
So again, how can fracturing kill unless you physically get hit by a truck or by an well-site accident? I guess we should start talking about banning cars!
All these little twits are obvious victims of “cracking”, i.e having smoke blown up their ass.
BTW, I am wondering where they got that sign, 4th grade art class?
@Karen 3:41am. Actually, er, Karen, on this site people who have some technical knowledge on a subject simply provide that knowledge in their post. Do you have the knowledge you ask us about or are you off on a sophomoric rant?
John Lennon…
Imagine there’s no heaven
It’s easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people living for today
Imagine there’s no countries
It isn’t hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people living life in peace
You, you may say
I’m a dreamer, but I’m not the only one
I hope some day you’ll join us
And the world will be as one
Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people sharing all the world
You, you may say
I’m a dreamer, but I’m not the only one
I hope some day you’ll join us
And the world will live as one
Maybe she needs more money?
If they’re sincere, these Noble New Yorkers, why don’t they simply boycott natural gas that originates from fracking and just heat their homes and business with natural natural gas, or solar, or wind, or … hot air?
I say put your money where your mouth is and practice what you preach. Adopt a new motto too….
New Yorkers For Higher Energy Costs and Less Warmth.
“AnotherQlder says:
January 23, 2013 at 4:32 am”
We should ban water too, far too many people die from the fact they cannot breathe in water.
Some of those children will grow up, and get curious and investigate the propaganda they were fed. And become very upset with public education for lying to them.
I know I did.
Karen says: January 23, 2013 at 3:41 am
Why do you think many people are concerned about fracking ?
Because of all the collaborationist posts they read? Am I right?
Fracking has already doubled the estimates of recoverable reserves of oil and natural gas.
There is too much money to be made and too much demand for the products to stop it now.
Get used to plentiful and cheap natural gas. Get used to the fact that the US will rely less and less on imported oil.
Get used to increasing use of cheap natural gas lowering CO2 emissions in the US and world-wide.
Why would the Greens be against it? Not logical.
I watched FrackNation last night. Very informative and highly recommended. This is just another environmental “movement” started by exaggerated or outright false claims.
Imagine there’s no carbon
It’s easy if you try
No warming-hell before us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people curbing their emissions
Imagine there’s no companies
It isn’t hard to do
Nothing to drill or frack for
And no more CO2
Imagine all the people living in peace with Gaia
You, you may say
I’m a dreamer…
Yes.
“Fourth-graders have concluded fracking’s bad”
What that actually means is they’ve been indoctrinated with anti-producer propaganda. They know little of critical thought, of real history, and of real science, yet time is taken away from proper teaching to indoctrinate them to bite the hand that feeds them, to hate the producers even as they have electricity, warmth, food, and much else contributed to by such. If those who railed against production had to not use the fruits of such and be less hypocritical, there would be fewer doing so, yet, via government, when becoming voters, they get to spread the harm from their ideology to others. Starting indoctrination at about as young an age as possible is a classic tactic for an ideology weakened by higher levels of rational thought, knowledge, and mathematical literacy (such as being able to semi-quantitatively compare benefits versus hyped tradeoffs).
johnny old boy ” In the UK there have been minor Earthquakes causes by exploratory fracking and some measured pollution.”
I would keep very quiet if I were you johnny, old boy as your statement is typical of the hysterical Green unsubstantiated drivel presently available.
Minor earthquake it was, so low that only modern instruments could record it.
Any idea how much radiation was released at the same time? Water pollution at a level so low it is below any EU water purity scale.
Nothing to see here – “move on”
The child repeating that lie about cattle and killing people is a sad reminder that even bad movies, like “Promised Land” have the power to deceive the young and naive. As for Yoko and the celebritycrats, who gives fig what those self absorbed ignorant puppets say?
When Yoyo Nono shows up, you know it’s the beginning of the end.
Maybe she’ll do for the green movement what she did for the Beatles.
Seriously?
This is the woman who broke up the Beatles. For that sin alone, there is a special place in hell for the incredibly ignorant Yoko Ono.
The airing of FrackNation last night on aXsTV was an excellent, rational documentary on fracking. Encourage all to see it, if you have the opportunity.
Nothing burns cleaner than natural gas. Shale gas will provide enormous benefits to this country. It has brought down the price natural gas and the price of crude oil, which will go lower as shale gas is brought into production in the rest of the world.