Neutrons and the 1970s cooling period

Note: the original title Solar Neutrons and the 1970s cooling period was unintentionally misleading as Dr. Svalgaard points out in comments:

What produces Solar Neutrons?

the title of the post is misleading. The cosmic rays are protons, not neutrons, and are not produced by the Sun, but by supernovae in the Galaxy. The ‘neutrons’ are produced in the Earth’s atmosphere when cosmic ray protons collide with air. Neutron Monitors can detect those ‘secondary’ neutrons.

I meant to convey the modulation effect of the sun’s magnetic field on cosmic rays, and hence neutrons. So I’ve truncated the title to: Neutrons and the 1970s cooling period – Anthony

Guest post by David Archibald

The world’s most eminent climatologist was Professor Hubert Lamb, who founded the Climate Research Unit at the University of East Anglia. Professor Lamb was guided by the principle that if a climatologist is to project future climates, he must understand what has happened in the past. In that vein, to understand the cool period coming post solar maximum of Solar Cycle 24, it is apposite to examine the last period of cooling that the Earth experienced. This was the 1970s cooling period. The CIA report on climate written in August, 1974, A Study of Climatological Research as it Pertains to Intelligence Problems, summarised it in these terms:

“Since the late 1960s, a number of foreboding climatic predictions have appeared in various climatic, meteorological and geological periodicals, consistently following one of two themes.

· A global climatic change was underway.

· This climatic change would create worldwide agricultural failures in the 1970s.

Most meteorologists argued that they could not find any justifications for these predictions. The climatologists who argued for the proposition could not provide definitive causal explanations for their hypothesis. Early in the 1970s a series of adverse climatic anomalies occurred:

  • The world’s snow and ice cover had increased by at least 10 to 15 percent.
  • In the eastern Canadian area of the Arctic Greenland (sic), below normal temperatures were recorded for 19 consecutive months. Nothing like this had happened in the last 100 years.
  • The Moscow region suffered its worst drought in three to five hundred years.
  • Drought occurred in Central America, the sub-Sahara, South Asia, China and Australia.
  • Massive floods took place in the Midwestern United States.

Within a single year, adversity had visited almost every nation on the globe.”

There was a 1970s cooling period – the CIA left a record of it, and by some measures, the 1970s was the coldest decade of the 20th Century. This is one of those measures:

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This is Figure 3 from a paper by Suckling and Mitchell in 2000 which examined variation of the C/D climatic boundary under the Koppen climate classification system for the central United States during the 20th Century (courtesy of Gail Combs).

The C/D boundary is the boundary between mild winters and cold winters. For the average of the 1970s, the C/D boundary was 200 km south of where it was for the rest of the century. Given that the Great Pacific Climate Shift of 1976 saw a sudden warming, analysis at a finer time resolution is likely to show a much larger move south for the first half of that decade.

What was the signature of the 1970s cooling period in the instrumental record? In terms of the changes in space weather that might have caused that cooling, what was different about the early 1970s was that the neutron count rose back to near-solar minimum levels relatively early in Solar Cycle 20:

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If neutron count is a significant determinant of climate, what is happening now? That is shown in the following graph which inverts the neutron count and plots it against F10.7 flux:

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F10.7 flux is preferred to sunspot number because it can’t be adjusted by the “sunspot fiddlers” amongst us. What this graph shows is that:

1. there is about a one year lag in neutron count from the F10.7 flux.

2. the divergence between the F10.7 flux and neutron count in the early 1970s.

It looks like F10.7 flux has peaked for Solar Cycle 24 and therefore the neutron count should start climbing again. The current count is not much higher than the pre-Solar Cycle 23 minima in the record.

The Ap index is currently 3.6 which is lower than the minimum monthly levels for pre-Solar Cycle 23 minima. For the last thirty years, the Ap index has been broadly tracking the F10.7 flux apart from the 1970s cooling period:

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In the graph above, the Ap Index is shown as 11 month-smoothed. In the big picture, the Ap index did start rising from the mid-19th Century at about the same time that the glaciers started retreating in 1859. In the early 1970s though, the Ap index had a significant departure from the F10.7 flux and the neutron count. If a higher Ap index is associated with warming, then countervailing effects were much stronger than the high Ap index in the 1970s.

Both the neutron count and Ap Index are now quite close to solar minimum levels in the modern instrumental record, suggesting that they will be particularly weak when the fall of Solar Cycle 24 begins. The question then will be how far south the Koppen C/D boundary will move and what will that do to the Corn Belt growing season? As this figure shows, the Corn Belt is a movable feast:

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Meanwhile, the fall of Solar Cycle 24 is upon us. This graph following kindly provided by Mike Williamson show the rise of solar cycles 18 to 24 from the month of minimum. Solar Cycle 24 is the bottom line and appears to be already in a steep decline.

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Reference

Suckling, P.W. and Mitchell, M.D.  2000.  Variation of the Koppen C/D climate boundary in the central United States during the 20th century.  Physical Geography 21: 38-45.

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January 4, 2013 1:30 pm

Tilo Reber says:
January 4, 2013 at 1:14 pm
Yes, yes, I know – “we have learned so much since 2006 and we don’t make mistakes any more.”
No, you obviously don’t know. We figured out back in 1978 how to predict solar cycles and have predicted every single one since correctly.

January 4, 2013 1:36 pm

Stephen Wilde says:
January 4, 2013 at 1:12 pm
What say Leif if the sun stays quiet and global temperatures do distinctly fall over the next 5 years ?
1) I say that solar activity will fall to very low levels [sunspot number ~10] for the next ~50 years [safe to say as I’ll be long dead before proven wrong 🙂 ]
2) Everybody is trying to convince me that the oceans have so large thermal inertia that it takes hundreds of years for the temperature to fall ‘distinctly’ [how much is that? BTW, without numbers how can one discuss anything?]. 5 years does not mean anything. Perhaps 20.

RACookPE1978
Editor
January 4, 2013 1:37 pm

True – For as many thousand images, websites, and I have seen on science and solar cycles as I have found since 2002, your 2004 prediction of 70 sunspots was never publicized nor visible until today. Thank you and Archibald for (at least now) pointing it out to those of us affected by the sun.
Note: Ira Glickstein has a more visible overlay of all of the wrong predictions here:
http://tvpclub.blogspot.com/2010/12/sunspots-prediction-of-new-dalton.html

January 4, 2013 1:39 pm

Tilo Reber says:
January 4, 2013 at 1:19 pm
Yes, one must give Hathaway credit for being smart enough not to have his predictions contradict current data.
You are completely wrong about his ‘predictions’. They are not predictions based on theory or anything like that, but simply a fit of a standard solar cycle to current data, so a ‘forecast’ may be a better word, and will by definition always fit current data. Yes, I know that he labels his plot ‘prediction’, but that does not change what it actually is.

BobG
January 4, 2013 1:40 pm

@Lsvalgaard
Thanks for all your comments. I consider you “the expert” here(well anywhere) on solar cycles and the sun in general as I believe most on the board probably do. I don’t post many comments because this is not my area of expertise but do enjoy learning more about the sun, solar cycles and its possible impact on climate. My impression from some of your comments in the past is that you believe GCRs may cause some cooling but you are not thinking it is a major contributor to climate? Is this correct?

January 4, 2013 1:51 pm

David Archibald says:
January 4, 2013 at 1:11 pm
With respect to the methodology of predicting climate using Friis-Christensen and Lassen’s cycle length-temperature relationship, everything remains on track.
The F-L ‘methodology’ is as flawed as they come.
RACookPE1978 says:
January 4, 2013 at 1:37 pm
For as many thousand images, websites, and I have seen on science and solar cycles as I have found since 2002, your 2004 prediction of 70 sunspots was never publicized nor visible until today
You must have frequented a lot of fringe places 🙂
It is hardly conceivable that this is the FIRST you hear of this, but if you say so…

Gail COmbs
January 4, 2013 1:57 pm

Jim Clarke says:
January 4, 2013 at 8:47 am
Bob Shapiro says:
January 4, 2013 at 7:23 am
Sorry Bob, but Snopes disagrees:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
More interesting history direct from the navy: http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq107.htm
And yes we are a curious bunch.

January 4, 2013 2:05 pm

BobG says:
January 4, 2013 at 1:40 pm
My impression from some of your comments in the past is that you believe GCRs may cause some cooling but you are not thinking it is a major contributor to climate? Is this correct?
My thinking is that GCRs are an even smaller contributor than CO2 and friends, thus not major. The Laschamps excursion is one of the reasons for this belief http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2012E%26PSL.351…54N

January 4, 2013 2:07 pm

lsvalgaard says:
January 4, 2013 at 2:05 pm
As wordpress mangles URLs you should copy/paste it into your browser’s address field:
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2012E%26PSL.351…54N

January 4, 2013 2:09 pm

“What was the signature of the 1970s cooling period in the instrumental record? In terms of the changes in space weather that might have caused that cooling, what was different about the early 1970s was that the neutron count rose back to near-solar minimum levels relatively early in Solar Cycle 20 …
Science is to recognise coherence. First in structure, then in mechanism.
http://www.volker-doormann.org/images/ghi_11_vs_solar_neut5.gif
http://www.volker-doormann.org/images/solar_neutrino_rate.gif
It seems there is a coherence between the terrestrial climate and the nuclear process in the inner Sun and the solar tide function. Is there a causality? And if, what follows what?
Who knows?
V.

January 4, 2013 2:20 pm

lsvalgaard says:
January 4, 2013 at 12:51 pm
…………..
Why would you think I am upset? I never had so much fun, while I had to work for living, now I enjoy my hobby, have produced more than 100 unique graphs; my website had 167,731 hits to date, all the way from Petaluma to Port Moresby.
You are far too clever not to understand the ‘destructive’ meaning of what is in the data, the main reason for shadowing my posts; so much for ‘not worth discussing’.
Thanks for all the ‘encouragement’.
.

January 4, 2013 2:33 pm

vukcevic says:
January 4, 2013 at 2:20 pm
Why would you think I am upset? I never had so much fun
You sound rather desperate to me. And pissed to.

BobG
January 4, 2013 3:00 pm

lsvalgaard says:
“The Laschamps excursion is one of the reasons for this belief ”
I don’t see it as strong evidence that GCRs are not impactful given it was in a cold period already. The method that GCRs impact climate is given by theory which does not seem to be completely worked out. When solar cycles are small, many believe that it is a combination of GCRs, changes in the spectrum (less ultraviolet) may be the driver. While I’m not convinced the theory is true. I find the Laschamps excursion less persuasive that GCRs have little effect than I do something like the following: http://arxiv.org/pdf/0804.1938.pdf – part of the conclusion reads:
“Numerous palaeoclimatic observations, covering a wide range of time scales, suggest that galactic cosmic ray variability is associated with climate change. The quality and diversity of the observations make it difficult to dismiss them merely as chance associations. But is the GCR flux directly affecting the climate or merely acting as a proxy for variations of the solar irradiance or a spectral component such as UV? Here, there is some palaeoclimatic evidence for associations of the climate with geomagnetic and galactic modulations of the GCR flux, which, if confirmed, point to a direct GCR-climate forcing. Moreover, numerous studies have reported meteorological responses to short-term changes of cosmic rays or the global electrical current, which are unambiguously associated with ionising particle radiation.”
Thanks again for your response.

January 4, 2013 3:14 pm

BobG says:
January 4, 2013 at 3:00 pm
lsvalgaard says:
“The Laschamps excursion is one of the reasons for this belief ”
One of my reasons.
The method that GCRs impact climate is given by theory which does not seem to be completely worked out.
And the empirical evidence seems weak as well:
http://www.leif.org/EOS/swsc120049-GCR-Clouds.pdf
“it is clear that there is no robust evidence of a widespread link between the cosmic ray flux and clouds”
Hugh Hudson’s expression “The data is weak, and the theory is weaker” seems to be applicable.
In general, I find that ‘dueling’ links is not a fruitful way of dealing with the problem.
You asked for my reasons, I gave them. I look at the papers and draw my conclusions. You could call me a ‘fence-sitter’, but I have not found anything that compels me to come off the fence.

January 4, 2013 3:16 pm

“RACookPE1978 says:
January 4, 2013 at 1:37 pm
True – For as many thousand images, websites, and I have seen on science and solar cycles as I have found since 2002, your 2004 prediction of 70 sunspots was never publicized nor visible until today. Thank you and Archibald for (at least now) pointing it out to those of us affected by the sun. ”
I have seen his 70 sunspot prediction around 2-3 years ago and it is definitely a good prediction after making it before S24 even showed up.
But that second peak of this cycle….. hmmm…..

george e smith
January 4, 2013 3:17 pm

Well, so cosmic Protons (I agree) just come waltzing into earth’s atmosphere and neutrons happen.
Howzat happen ??
Presumably, the proton has to hit something; why not N2, O2, Ar in that order of priority, followed by the junque. well hit as in get within the cross-section of whatever nuclear reaction takes place.
Now the proton could be captured, and the nucleus spit out a neutron. So N would morph into O and similarly for the others.
So this is bass ackwards from the 14N > 14C process.
I suppose the proton could steal an electron from somebody, but why wouldn’t it then become H, instead of N. Mashing the electron into the nucleus, would seem tougher, than just capturing an orbital electron.
So maybe nobody else cares who makes neutrons out of cosmic protons; but I surely do.
And no; I do not doubt that it happens; I just want to know what the hell it is that happens !!
Seems like 14N has to lose a proton and gain a neutron, to become 14C.

January 4, 2013 3:37 pm

lsvalgaard says:
January 4, 2013 at 2:33 pm
You sound rather desperate to me. And pissed to.
… too?
Wouldn’t your current ‘desperate’ (hopeless; critical situation of great distress) diagnosis
contradict your previous often reported ‘Denning-Kruger’ (a cognitive bias in which unskilled individuals suffer from illusory superiority). diagnosis
Did you mean p..ssed as in pi..sed off, or the faculty overpowered by excessive C2H6O consumption, or maybe both ?
Hmmm… you might make more money advising on soul instead of soleil.
It’s my bed time. TTFN.

January 4, 2013 3:45 pm

You sound desperate and pissed all the time, Leif.
Your self-aggrandizement and vituperation in illiterate English destroyed your credibility long ago.
Ah well, every forum has its couple of insufferable bullies. You and Willis meet the case on WUWT.

January 4, 2013 3:46 pm

Becuase of oceanic thermal inertia the time lag between solar activity and global temperatures is about probably about 12 years- see fig 3 in http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/2005ESASP.560…19U
The effect of 50 years of low SSN (Hlgh GCRs ) is estimated for the NH at about 1 -2 degrees see
http://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/docs/2001/2001_Shindell_etal_1.pdf
For a ball park handy dandy GCR/ Temp estimate Spencer says:
(see http://www.drroyspencer.com/2011/05/indirect-solar-forcing-of-climate-by-galactic-cosmic-rays-an-observational-estimate/ )
“What the above three plots show is that for a 1,000 count increase in GCR activity as measured at Moscow (which is somewhat less than the increase between Solar Max and Solar Min), there appears to be:
(1) an increase in reflected sunlight (SW) of 0.64 Watts per sq. meter, probably mostly due to an increase in low cloud cover;
(2) virtually no change in emitted infrared (LW) of +0.02 Watts per sq. meter;
(3) a Net (reflected sunlight plus emitted infrared) effect of 0.55 Watts per sq. meter loss in radiant energy by the global climate system.”
Now its all perfectly clear !!! No need to wait 50 years – sleep easy.

January 4, 2013 3:49 pm

sunsettommy says:
January 4, 2013 at 3:16 pm
…………………..
… Correct, Dr. S quoted 72 about 4 years ago, then he asked for mine prediction. I do not do predictions, but the extrapolation made in 2003 (published in Jan 2004) suggested ~80 for the monthly non-smoothed SIDC number:
http://www.vukcevic.talktalk.net/SSN.htm
it was laughed of by NASA’s Dr. Hathaway some years later.

January 4, 2013 3:57 pm

sunsettommy says:
January 4, 2013 at 3:16 pm
But that second peak of this cycle….. hmmm…..
Solar cycle 14: http://www.solen.info/solar/cycl14.html hmmm… how many peaks? …
Multiple peaks are normal.
george e smith says:
January 4, 2013 at 3:17 pm
And no; I do not doubt that it happens; I just want to know what the hell it is that happens !!
Seems like 14N has to lose a proton and gain a neutron, to become 14C.

When a cosmic ray proton slams into a 14N atom, it may kick out one neutron and 4 protons to become 10Be. The point is that the target atom is shattered ino many pieces. The neutron kicked out may hit another 14N and kick out a proton to become 14C. There are many other ways this can happend invloving 16O as well.

January 4, 2013 4:02 pm

Alexander Feht says:
January 4, 2013 at 3:45 pm
Ah well, every forum has its couple of insufferable bullies. You and Willis meet the case on WUWT.
it seems we have some useful idiots too.
vukcevic says:
January 4, 2013 at 3:37 pm
Wouldn’t your current ‘desperate’ (hopeless; critical situation of great distress) diagnosis
contradict your previous often reported ‘Denning-Kruger’ (a cognitive bias in which unskilled individuals suffer from illusory superiority) diagnosis

that is what happens when the latter discover their illusion.

January 4, 2013 4:08 pm

Let’s not get nasty – Leif is properly skeptical about what he sees as speculation unsupported by data that he is familiar with. On various sites and threads he is unfailingly helpful to the neophytes in this business and a great source of solid information and historical context.
Thanks Leif for all your input – keeps everyone honest and grounded in data.

Editor
January 4, 2013 4:19 pm

Can anybody here do and interpret a Fourier analysis (specifically a FFT)? The Pentiction solar flux site has data going back to 1947. I’ve cobbled together the data, approximately 24,000 days’ worth. There were quite a few holes at the beginning of the record (e.g. no obs on weekends). If we only go back to 1968, that’s 16384 daily records. I’ve filled in the few missing obs with strictly linear interpolation.
I can follow instructions on how to generate a FFT output. I simply don’t understand what the numbers mean. My Google searches have returned mostly electrical circuit design and analysis hits.

January 4, 2013 4:44 pm

” lsvalgaard says:
January 4, 2013 at 3:57 pm
sunsettommy says:
January 4, 2013 at 3:16 pm
But that second peak of this cycle….. hmmm…..
Solar cycle 14: http://www.solen.info/solar/cycl14.html hmmm… how many peaks? …
Multiple peaks are normal.”
DR. Svalgaard,
Not once have I disputed PAST multiple peaks but THIS solar cycle is not alike cycle 14 at all and your own link show that.
The cycle 14 cycle had numerous identifiable peaks at fairly regular intervals but cycle 24 does not have it as plainly shown to date.