If this had been summer, and the numbers reversed, you’d see Seth Borenstein writing articles for AP telling us this is ‘what global warming cooling looks like’.
Maybe Bill McKibben will chime in about “melted frozen street lamps“.
Here’s the lows plotted on the US map:
Many of the records in the Dakotas were in the teens. Here’s the total numbers:
| Total Records: | 2079 |
| Rainfall: | 402 |
| Snowfall: | 74 |
| High Temperatures: | 138 |
| Low Temperatures: | 386 |
| Lowest Max Temperatures: | 768 |
| Highest Min Temperatures: | 311 |
Total number of high temperature type records: 138+311= 449
Total number of low temperature type records: 386+768= 1154
Source: NOAA data via HW Records Center here
Here’s all of the temperature records for the past week plotted on the map:
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My bad…. Forget to add /SARC!!! to my posting.
Brendan said:
October 9, 2012 at 6:44 am
If a few days of record lows (compared to months of record highs) are your best argument against global warming then congratulations to you, champ!
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Dang – people see what they want to see, huh? Nowhere in the article did I read anything about a few days of record lows being a argument against man-made global warming; it was about how the press report on climate issues.
Brendan is prolly all puffed up thinking he scored a bit hit for the warmunists 🙂
LazyTeenager says:
October 8, 2012 at 5:17 pm
David L on October 8, 2012 at 4:45 pm
Let me see: 1) this was predicted by warming models 2) this is weather not climate 3) this is regional not global 4) look over there; polar bears are dying and Greenland is melting
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Well your learning and your marks are getting better.
1. Correct. Climate models predict short term variability that is larger than the long term trend.
2. Correct. 1 week of temperature extremes proves neither long term cooling or warming.
3. Correct. Regional trends are only weakly affected by global trends.
4. Wrong. Polar bears is a future prediction not a current situation.
4. Correct . Greenland is melting.
4. Wrong. Look over there are the drought in the USA and hope its going to end soon.
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1. And those “short terms” keep getting longer. (What is it now? 10? 15 years?)
2. But to the press it does … and long it was warming. Cooling is just “Climate Change” caused by “Warming”.
3. Unless you live in that region. Then a warm spell is “proof” of CAGW. (In the press.)
4. Based on the CAGW crowds’ prediction records, polar bears are are will be in fine shape. (Not so sure about all those baby seals though.)
4. Maybe the Vikings will be able to come back?
4. When has a drought not ended? Did CAGW cause the Dust Bowl of the ’30’s? Or, like the MWP, did it not happen?
5. Just how did Man and his CO2 cause any this either way?
The AGW people, media and “scientific”, to be honest must either:
1) Stop using local and regional data as confirmation when it agrees with their views.
2) Accept local and regional data that does not confirm their views.
3) Honestly, speak only of GLOBAL data.
Bets anyone?
Interested Says:
This fits in with the anecdotal evidence that South Africa has simultaneously had its coldest winter in 100 years. (Regrettably I don’t have any hard data, though. Sorry.)
I’m sorry to pour cold water (or should that be warm water?) on your anecdotal evidence, but in my part of the central Highveld of South Africa – about 100 miles west of Johannesbug – the winter was 0.3 degress above average at 10.9 C (51.6 F). There was a very rare, and well publicised snowfall in Johannesburg in August. At the same time, my own weather station recorded its lowest ever maximum temp of 6.5 C (44 F). on 7th August. Two weeks later, we set records for the highest ever August maximum on 4 consecutive days, with the temperature making its way from 30.5 to 31.5 degrees C (87 to 89 F) and the August mean temp of 13.8 (56.9 F) was a full one degree C above average.
I love it. We argue about “climate change” and “what did we do to cause it?”
School was different back then. We were taught that a lot of Ohio was covered by glaciers. And that the northern part was smoothed by them coming down from the north….. They told us it was natural and that global climates would oscillate and continents moved and all kinds of stuff happened before there was a civilization.
Obviously they lied !!!! Those b&*^%&^$%$s!!!
Since those glaciers are gone, there must have been a really nasty civilization that caused the global warming that receded them. We should sue them for being so environmentally unfriendly and starting the natural oscillation of temperatures across the globe.
Sue the Sun also.
@Ric Werme – To what extent can this meridonal flow, this big swing in the jet stream, be attributed to more open water, more heat and humidity, in the Arctic?
To me, this path from global heating to Arctic heating to continental cooling seems to be the most direct path from an abstract concept to an effect many people in the NH can feel for themselves.
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Tim Folkerts says:
October 8, 2012 at 8:59 pm
Now, compare this to last March. In one week, over 3000 record high temperatures were set across the US, and over 7500 record high’s for the month.
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Not surprising given the increasing UHIE at the stations.
High/Low temperature record streaks happen throughout the year, every year. Ratios of highs v. lows over time would seem a good indicator of trend. The shorter the time line, the less value of indicated trend. YTD 2012 there’ve been 56,466 record highs recorded and 12,691 record lows. Over the same period in 2011 there were 50,002 highs and 21,952 lows recorded. The question that begs to be asked: What’s the point of this thread? It’s seemingly desperate in character.
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