I guess we must be having an effect

This ad has been running on some WUWT stories, urging people to save the EPA from the “deniers” that are apparently “running the conversation”. Heh.

When you see the ad, clicking on it allows you to use a form to send a message, along with adding your own. I found it humorous for this line behind the ad:

For too long, big power companies have been able to dump unlimited amounts of industrial carbon pollution into our air.

That could just as easily say:

For too long, [humans and animals] have been able to[breathe] unlimited amounts of [natural] carbon [dioxide] into our air.

You can add your own message too via the League of Conservation Voters website, should you wish.

But, be careful of the fine print:

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Charlie H
March 22, 2012 11:11 am

Photoshop for the win…

Richard deSousa
March 22, 2012 11:13 am

The EPA must be getting desperate… they lost a Supreme Court ruling earlier this week so WUWT must be rattling their cage. They’re beginning to sound like Mike Mann who has been pummeled by responses to his WSJ article. Laugh, it drives them crazy!

DJ
March 22, 2012 11:13 am

I clicked on the link some time ago, and was tempted to change the “message” appropriately, wherein I was going to admonish the EPA to attack the misuse of the greatest greenhouse gas of them all, H2O. On second thought, I figured they’d just edit my comment out, change it, and/or use my message as a “vote” in their favor if they didn’t just dismiss me as a whack-denier.
In any case, I disagree with the premise that they can’t let ‘deniers run the conversation’. All that’s ever been asked is equal time.

wermet
March 22, 2012 11:17 am

If all of the WUWT readers become “members” of LCV, then we could vote in a whole new set of Directors to the Board! 🙂
LCV should be very careful about who they try to “influence”.
Mahahahaha… /nosarc

DanSanto
March 22, 2012 11:20 am

Clicking on it also costs them a bit of money. I would suggest clicking on it often, but then do nothing further. They could be paying anywhere from a penny to fifty cents per click.

crosspatch
March 22, 2012 11:21 am

I don’t see the ads anymore. Ghostery.

Bloke down the pub
March 22, 2012 11:22 am

Do they think we will take pity on them and stop running the conversation?

Larry Hamlin
March 22, 2012 11:23 am

For far too long the people of the U.S. have been subjected to politically driven junk science regulations of the EPA and been forced to pay massive costs in direct fees, higher costs for goods and services and negative impacts on our economy based on nothing but ideological beliefs of environmental special interest groups, the media establishment and government agencies feeding off tax payer dollars. Unless these ridiculous and out of control practices are severely curtailed the U.S. will simply decline into a second or third rate economic power.

March 22, 2012 11:24 am

I changed the message to this, and sent it:
I DO NOT support the EPA. They are an anti-free market, dictatorial, unelected group of busybody zealots who have gone far beyond their mandate.
CARBON DIOXIDE IS GOOD. MORE IS BETTER! CO2 is NOT a pollutant! The demonization of harmless, beneficial CO2 is being promoted to make “carbon” appear evil. WE ARE MADE OF CARBON! It is the EPA that is EVIL.
The EPA must be put out of existence. It must be DEFUNDED. America is a cleaner country than just about any other. Pollution has been all but completely eliminated. The EPA is run by self-serving cranks, who intend to raise the cost of energy on already hard-bitten Americans. Don’t let them do it! Cheap energy is GOOD for America!
DEFUND THE EPA!!

With enough anti-EPA messages, they may think twice about asking for the public’s input after this.

March 22, 2012 11:24 am

What I want to know is: who’s funding this? I insist on total transparency on the donors behind the “League of Conservation Voters”. I’m sure the Washington Post and New York Times will jump right on that.

March 22, 2012 11:25 am

wow, look at all that dirty steam

orkneylad
March 22, 2012 11:25 am

TELL THE EPA TO STAY WRONG
surely, that’d be on-message

William Abbott
March 22, 2012 11:25 am

We do have great conversations here at WUWT. You’re driving them crazy Anthony.

kbray in california
March 22, 2012 11:41 am

The League of Conservation Voters:
Contact them directly…
send an email with your request to feedback@lcv.org or call (202) 785-8683.

Brian H
March 22, 2012 11:41 am

Richard S;
What was the Supreme Court ruling/case? Got a link?

dorsai123
March 22, 2012 11:42 am

also every click costs them money …

March 22, 2012 11:44 am

“I’m sure the Washington Post and New York Times will jump right on that.”
Now that was funny.

Brian H
March 22, 2012 11:48 am

OK, found it. Sacketts vs. EPA, won right to challenge wetland ruling in court.

Richard deSousa
March 22, 2012 11:49 am

This is what I posted on the EPA/League of Conservation Voters page:
NO, I DO NOT SUPPORT THE EPA. IT’S HEADED BY A BUREAUCRAT, STAFFED BY CHICKEN LITTLES AND THE EPA SHOULD BE DEFUNDED!!! ACCORDING TO SATELLITE DATA THERE HAS BEEN NO RISE IN TEMPERATURE DURING THE PAST DECADE
DESPITE THE CONTINUED RISE IN CO2 SO THAT THEORY HAS BEEN DEBUNKED!!!!
http://www.drroyspencer.com/latest-global-temperatures/
YOU CAN FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE SOME OF THE TIME AND SOME OF THE PEOPLE ALL OF THE TIME BUT NEVER ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL OF THE TIME!
Yeah, I know, I’ve shouted at them…. because I’m really angry!!!!!

Robertvdl
March 22, 2012 11:49 am

Why do they always show water vapor when they talk about CO2.?

Slide2112
March 22, 2012 11:51 am

My note to them:
I support clean air and a SANE energy economy!
Our nation must have a REALISTIC energy policy– BUT these new clean air standards would FORCE innovation into NON-PRODUCTIVE UNSESTANABLE technologies that DESTROY more jobs then they can create.
Start drilling for oil here in the U.S. The economic boom that will result will fund tomorrows innovation for a better world.

March 22, 2012 11:54 am

lol, and I thought it was a joke of some sort…..

March 22, 2012 11:55 am

Let’s not get ahead of ourselves here. PR-wise we are massively outgunned in terms of resources and media support, which in out case case translates to media hostility. It’s thanks to the Internet and the blogosphere that we’ve been able to disrupt the one-way propaganda, but this advantage won’t last forever, as big piles of money can eventually turn the tables. As things are, we are split into hundreds of indicidual researchers and blogs, each with his own message, a cacophony that’s not the most efficient. No time for lollygagging, kids.
At the very least, what we can do with our pocket change is to utilize our blogs and harness the “idle capacity” talent we already have. We have the brains. We have the scientists, writers, publicists and artists. And we have a base of sstirring support from a rapidly growing mass of fidgety people who know that they are being had, who are beginning to understand what has happened and how, and who are finally impatient for alternatives.
What is to be done?…to steal from Chernyshevsky’s classic question. I’d say keep on doing what we;ve been doing, but more of it. We don’t need stiff leadership hierarchies and secretive strategies. While the Warmies plot and scheme, hang on to sinecures and battle over positions; hide, lie and steal, and get caught with their pants around their ankles to the public’s amusement, we own the gold bond of integrity and unlike our dishonourable opposition, we can work openly and transparently…and more importantly, fluidly and speedily… to hammer-out honest in-you-face information campaigns. Not rocket science, this. And when we move our butts a even a little, as even this “little blog that grew” shows, the impact will be significant. B-b-b-baby, baby, they ain’t nothin’ yet!

kramer
March 22, 2012 11:57 am

For too long, big power companies have been able to dump unlimited amounts of plant and tree food into our air.

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