Al Gore's global warming claims on Kilimanjaro glacier – finally dead and buried in the Climategate 2.0 emails – even Phil Jones and Lonnie Thompson don't believe it

Al Gore said in his AIT bag of BS that Mount Kilimanjaro was losing its snow/ice cover due to global warming. Here’s the Transcript of “An Inconvenient Truth”:

Effects of Global Warming

And now we’re beginning to see the impact in the real world. This is Mount Kilimanjaro more than 30 years ago, and more recently. And a friend of mine just came back from Kilimanjaro with a picture he took a couple of months ago. Another friend of mine Lonnie Thompson studies glaciers. Here’s Lonnie with a sliver of a once mighty glacier. Within the decade there will be no more snows of Kilimanjaro.

I’ve said this many times, Kilimanjaro’s loss of ice cover has to do with sublimation, not warming. The picture of Thompson next to the sliver of ice proves it. Note there’s no meltwater near him. That sliver is a symptom of sublimation – ice evaporating directly into the air, just like ice cubes shrink when left in the freezer too long.

Almost a year ago I wrote this:

OSU’s Dr. Lonnie Thompson pushes gloom and doom, still thinks the snows of Kilimanjaro are melting due to global warming

This is an OSU press release, timed to appear in Eurekalert for Cancun’s COP16 on December 8th, and reposted here verbatim, including the all caps headline. Even though the “melting on Kilimanjaro due to global warming” has been fully debunked by a recent peer reviewed paper (see Kilimanjaro’s snow – it’s about land use change, tree cutting) Dr. Thompson continues to push this false information.

For example, this is a photo (at left) of Dr. Thompson standing next to an ice spire on Kilimanjaro. Notice any meltwater pools nearby? You won’t, because they aren’t there. Read this quote from this entry to understand why:

The ice cap on Kilimanjaro consists of ice on the 5,700-meter-high flat summit, some with vertical edges, and several slope glaciers, mostly at altitudes where temperatures stay well below freezing and the major source of energy is solar radiation. Considerable infrared radiation is emitted from the glacier surface into the surrounding air, and the glaciers lose the most mass through sublimation-the direct conversion of ice to water vapor. Observers have seen only a trickle of meltwater.

Dr. Thompson seems not to want to understand the process of sublimation on Kilimanjaro

And now today, here’s indication in the Climategate 2.0 emails that I was right.

5315.txt

date: Sat Sep 18 08:48:09 2004

from: Phil Jones <p.jones@uea.xx.xx>

subject: Re: kilimanjaro

to: “Jenkins, Geoff” <geoff.jenkins@metoffice.xx.xx>

Geoff,

The data that are used for the grid box should be within the grid box. They will be low

elevation sites though, and this may be part of the reason. It might be worth seeing if

there is anything in the U/A data – but I reckon there won’t be much in that region.

I’ve heard Lonnie Thompson talk about the Kilimanjaro core and he got some local temperatures – that we don’t have access to, and there was little warming in them. The same situation applies for Quelccaya in Peru and also some of his Tibet sites. Lonnie thinks they are disappearing because of sublimation, but he can’t pin anything down. They are going though.

Lonnie’s email is “Lonnie G. Thompson” <thompson.3@osu.xxx.xxx>

You could try emailing Ellen as well both might be in the field.

Ellen Mosley-Thompson <thompson.4@osu.xxx.xxx>

I’m off much of the next 6 weeks at meetings.

I hear you’re retiring soon – hope all goes well !  I’m sure you’ll still be in the field somewhere.

Cheers

Phil

At 10:32 16/09/2004, you wrote:

phil

<<kilimanjaro.doc>>

we have been concerned that people often use the melting glacier on kilimanjaro as an

example of impacts of man-made warming. you may have seen some stories countering this on the sceptics websites.

I got philip brohan to look at temps there (see attached) and there isnt any convincing consistent recent warming in the station data. but your gridded CRUtem2V does show a recent warming. presumably that is because (as philip suggests) the gridded stuff has influences from quite a large radius, and hence may reflect warming at stations a long way from kilimanjaro?

would you agree that there is no convincing evidence for kilimanjaro glacier melt being due to recent warming (let alone man-made warming)?

be grateful for your help

cheers

geoff

Dr Geoff Jenkins

Head, Climate Prediction Programme

Hadley Centre

Met Office

FitzRoy Road, EXETER, EX1 3PB, UK

tel: +44 (0) 1392 xxxxxx

mobile: 0787 966 1136

[1]www.hadleycentre.xxxx.xx

Prof. Phil Jones

Climatic Research Unit        Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090

School of Environmental Sciences    Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784

University of East Anglia

Norwich                          Email    p.jones@uea.ac.uk

NR4 7TJ

UK

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Compare that to this press release Dr. Thompson put out a year ago right before COP16 in Cancun.

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CLIMATE SCIENTIST WARNS WORLD OF WIDESPREAD SUFFERING IF FURTHER CLIMATE CHANGE IS NOT FORESTALLED.

COLUMBUS, Ohio – One of the world’s foremost experts on climate change is warning that if humans don’t moderate their use of fossil fuels, there is a real possibility that we will face the environmental, societal and economic consequences of climate change faster than we can adapt to them.

Lonnie Thompson, distinguished university professor in the School of Earth Sciences at Ohio State University, posed that possibility in a just-released special climate-change edition of the journal The Behavior Analyst.

He also discussed how the rapid and accelerating retreat of the world’s glaciers and ice sheets dramatically illustrates the nature of the changing climate.

Lonnie Thompson
Photo by Thomas Nash

It is the first time in a published paper that he has recommended specific action to forestall the growing effects of climate change.  During the last three decades, Thompson has led 57 expeditions to some of the world’s most remote high altitude regions to retrieve cores from glaciers and ice caps that preserve a record of ancient climate.

In the past Thompson has let his research data and conclusions speak for him but in this paper, intended for social scientists and behavior experts, he voiced his concern regarding  the risks that ignoring the evidence of climate change may bring.

“Unless large numbers of people take appropriate steps, including supporting governmental regulations aimed at reducing greenhouse gas emissions, our only options will be adaptation and suffering,” he wrote in the concluding paragraph.

“And the longer we delay, the more unpleasant the adaptations and the greater the suffering will be.”

In the paper (available here), Thompson said that virtually all climate researchers “are now convinced that global warming poses a clear and present danger to civilization.”

His opinion isn’t hyperbole, he said, but instead is based on a “very clear pattern in the scientific evidence documenting that the Earth is warming, that the warming is due largely to human activity, that warming is causing important changes to many of the Earth’s support systems, and that rapid and potentially catastrophic changes in the near future are possible.


“Unless large numbers of people take appropriate steps, including supporting governmental regulations aimed at reducing greenhouse gas emissions, our only options will be adaptation and suffering.”


“Such future scenarios,” he says, “emerge not, as is often suggested, simply from computer simulations, but from the weight and balance of the empirical evidence as well.”

Thompson listed three options humanity has for dealing with global warming which, he says, “is here and is already affecting our climate, so prevention is no longer an option.”

“Clearly mitigation is our best option, but so far most societies around the world, including the United States and the other largest emitters of greenhouse gases, have done little more than talk about the importance of mitigation,” he says.

He says that there are currently no technological quick fixes for global warming.

“Our best hope,” he says, “is to change our behavior in ways that significantly slow the rate of global warming, thereby giving engineers and scientists time to devise, develop, and deploy technological solutions where possible.”

Thompson prefaced his advice with examples of the Earth’s diminishing ice cover, examples that constitute some of the strongest supporting evidence of the current threat of global climate change:

– The ice fields atop Mount Kilimanjaro have lost 85 percent of their coverage since 1912;

– The Quelccaya ice cap in southern Peru – the largest tropical ice field on Earth, has retreated 25 percent since 1978;

– Ice fields in the Himalayas that have long shown traces of the radioactive bomb tests in the 1950s and 1960s have since lost that signal as surface melting has removed the upper layers and thereby reduced the thickness of these glaciers;

– All of the glaciers in Alaska’s vast Brooks Range are retreating, as are 98 percent of those in southeastern Alaska.  And 99 percent of glaciers in the Alps, 100 percent of those in Peru and 92 percent in the Andes of Chile are likewise retreating;

– Sea levels are rising and the loss of ice coverage in the North Polar region continues to increase annually.

“Everyone will be affected by global warming,” Thompson wrote.  “But those with the fewest resources for adapting will suffer the most.”

A research scientist with Ohio State’s Byrd Polar Research Center, Thompson is a member of the National Academy of Sciences and a foreign member of the Chinese Academy of Sciences.  In 2007, he received the National Medal of Science, the highest honor the United States gives to American scientists.

#

Contact:  Lonnie Thompson, (614) 292-6652: Thompson.3@osu.edu

Written by Earle Holland, (614) 292-8384; Holland.8@osu.edu.

=================================================================

I got into a tiff with Earle Holland in comments over my post on it. The point of all this is that Kilimanjaro has lost much of the lowland surround forest due to firewood cutting and land clearing for Agriculture. This limits the evapotranspiration available to upslope winds, the wind carry less moisture, less moisture falls on the top due to orographic lifting effect creating precipitation.

It’s just that simple, and “global warming” does not have one damn thing to do with it.

Dr. Thompson, you need to come clean and stop pushing this disinformation. Ditto for Mr. Holland. To say Kilimanjaro is losing its ice due to “global warming” is patently false.

Ditto for Gore, but he has no scruples so I don’t expect him to acknowledge it at all.

UPDATE: I’m reminded by “jeez” that Dr. Lonnie Thompson and his wife served as advisors for Gore’s AIT movie as mentioned in this glowing press release from OSU:

Lonnie and Ellen both served as advisers to former Vice President Al Gore in the production of his 2006 documentary, “An Inconvenient Truth.” Gore said, “Lonnie Thompson’s research has yielded some of clearest, most definitive evidence of the dangerous state of global climate change that we’re all facing.

Thompson shocked the scientific community in 2001 when he predicted that the famed snows of Africa’s Mount Kilimanjaro in Tanzania would melt within the next 20 years, a victim of climate change across the tropics. Return expeditions to that same mountain have shown that changes in the mountain’s ice fields may signal an even quicker demise of its snowy cover.

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major
November 23, 2011 9:25 pm

The propagandists are cleverly and subtly modifying their propaganda as various pieces of their assertions are systematically discredited. Global Warming becomes climate change. CO2 becomes just greenhouse gases. Immediate crisis by 2020 becomes “may advance more rapidly than we can adapt” whatever that means. Normal climate cycles as elucidated by research are taken out of time scale context and become crises because only selected timeframes and data are used.
Once highly reputable scientists now have to continue to portray their belief in the bogus theorey because to do otherwise would expose them either as deliberate liars or just plan stupid.

November 23, 2011 10:09 pm

This is a very well researched post! I’m glad to hear Kilimanjaro wont loose its snow because of us sneezing or cows releasing gas etc.!

Spector
November 24, 2011 1:55 am

RE: Rosco: (November 23, 2011 at 2:29 pm)
“I also have a problem with the so called radiative balance – I think there never has been nor ever will be such a thing on Earth.
Think of it like your bank account. If you receive your regular payment from your employer and never spend any money, your account will get progressively higher (warmer) but if you spend all the money you receive, your average account balance will remain the same. It does not matter how you spend your money as long as you always spend all you get and what you receive remains constant.

Dwight Wise
November 24, 2011 2:02 am

If Anthony Watts needs a break from polemics, why doesn’t he take a vacation in Africa and visit Mount Kilimanjaro to look for pools of melt water? It is ridiculous that this question remain unsettled, when it could be so easily settled by inspection.
And if Mr. Watts does find the pools of meltwater, we can count on him to expose the grant-seeking scientists with hair dryers who doctored the evidence.

Dwight Wise
November 24, 2011 2:09 am

Roger Knight: You wrote: “Most (maybe nearly all) of these glaciers began shrinking long before 1950, when manmade CO2 emissions became a significant factor in the atmosphere. Prof. Akasofu and others have documented this. Therefore it’s likely that natural variation accounts for most of their shrinking.”
I have two questions:
1) Didn’t the industrial revolution start considerably before 1950?
2) What are these “natural variations” caused by? It is “likely” that a large visible change such as the disappearance of the world’s glaciers would have an identifiable cause. Or does nature simply decide, from time to time, to behave differently for a while, yielding to a sort of cosmic whim?

November 24, 2011 7:39 am

RE: Dwight Wise says:
November 24, 2011 at 2:09 am
“….2) What are these “natural variations” caused by? It is “likely” that a large visible change such as the disappearance of the world’s glaciers would have an identifiable cause. Or does nature simply decide, from time to time, to behave differently for a while, yielding to a sort of cosmic whim?”
Back when “Climate Science” hadn’t been corrupted, this is exactly the question it sought to answer. Because so much time and money has been squandered pursueing a political agenda, this question remains largely unanswered.
The simple fact of the matter is that Climate has certain swings we don’t understand. Why did Greenland get warm enough to grow crops there, and dig graves in thawed soil there? Why did it then turn so cold that a society which survived longer than the United States has survived had to pack up and quit? Why has the ground frozen so hard it is now impossible to dig graves by hand, despite recent warming?
How stupid it was to pretend Greenland wasn’t all that warm, or that the ability to grow crops there was a bizzarre local effect that only effected one spot on earth, (due to an incredible loop in the jet stream that stayed stalled for three hundred years, I suppose.) Yet this stupidity, to “erace the MWP,” was a stated goal of people who put their politics ahead of scientific truth.
The original goal of “Climate Science” was noble, and might still help mankind, if it could alert us to a true danger, such as the return of the “Little Ice Age.” However to achieve this end we must rid it of the corrupt sludge which pollutes it’s hallways and sucks up all its funding. Furthermore, we must step beyond shaming the corrupted scientists, and move on to finding, exposing, and shaming the people who bribe weaker-willed scientists into warping science for the briber’s personal wealth or power. Besides the bribed, we must locate the people doing the bribing.
I think these people may be named in the 20,000 remaining emails. They are the real culprets, and the real danger.

Tim Clark
November 25, 2011 7:33 am

“Ditto for Gore, but he has no scruples so I don’t expect him to acknowledge it at all.”
Typo alert!!
Ditto for Gore, but he has no intelligence so I don’t expect him to acknowledge it at all.
Fixed.

November 25, 2011 8:45 am

Here is an article in Forbes
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2011/11/23/climategate-2-0-new-e-mails-rock-the-global-warming-debate/
which summaries the new batch of emails:
“Three themes are emerging from the newly released emails: (1) prominent scientists central to the global warming debate are taking measures to conceal rather than disseminate underlying data and discussions; (2) these scientists view global warming as a political “cause” rather than a balanced scientific inquiry and (3) many of these scientists frankly admit to each other that much of the science is weak and dependent on deliberate manipulation of facts and data.”

December 4, 2011 11:27 am

This issue is catching on around The Ohio State University and this exact topic was covered in the recent documentary “The Changing Climate of Global Warming.”