Hilarious video clip of climate crusader turned opportunistic occupier Bill McKibben leading a flock of protestors in chant.
It reminds me of this classic scene…
h/t to The Daily Bayonet who named McKibben “hippie of the week”. Kenji got props too.
BTW, those wiggly five fingers in the air you see behind McKibben are “twinkles”, which is hippie sign language for “I agree”.
I can’t suffer through 6+ minutes of this. When is the punch line?
I liked the “Free Obama” part. When Obama’s thugs decide that this attempt and replacing ACORN is off the rails, this guy is likely to be one of the first ones to disappear.
Bob Johnston, I reckon this will make you as uncomfortable as it makes me, but nonetheless, I’m wiggling my spirit fingers at you…
Dave Snoozooka weighs in…
He amazes me…he’ll start out in first gear, the launch into diatribe mode all of a sudden. Same old meme.
Are you drinking tonight? Jones was the classic case of a cult, of his own design. His defining characteristic was of being a Socialist/Communist, with a side order of San Francisco rainbows thrown in.
Suzuki, Gore, McKibben. All spouting support for the anti-capitalist anarchy cabal.
Once a few more climate kooks chime in, the usual gang of moderation that say: “Climate Scientology is NOT an organ of the leftists” will have to shut up. Or not.
Quick, someone put a microphone in Hansen’s face. And Ehrlich, and Pachauri, and Mann, and Tamino, and Holdren, and …
Nah, don’t bother. We know that every single one of them side with these Socialists.
Blade says:
October 18, 2011 at 3:23 am
Anton [October 17, 2011 at 11:29 am] says:
“’Jim Jones was a Christian.’
“Are you drinking tonight? Jones was the classic case of a cult, of his own design. His defining characteristic was of being a Socialist/Communist, with a side order of San Francisco rainbows thrown in.”
Jones was as much a representative of Christianity as the primitives G. Karst referred to were representative of paganism. Funny, Christians and Muslims who insist each other’s and everyone else’s religion is wrong and backward can find lots of examples to prove their point, but completely ignore even worse examples within their own faiths. The Christian pot calling the pagan kettle black is beyond stupid, since the three Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity, and Islam) have inflicted more death, disease, misery, and ignorance on this planet than all pagan religions in history combined. Yes, they’ve inflicted many good things too. So have pagan religions.
There are literally thousands of so called Christian denominations in the world today. By any definition, they are ALL cults, and the fact that many are huge makes no difference. Every time some dufus comes along and says, “I have a NEW interpretation of this or scripture; follow me!” and people follow him or her, you have another cult. Every time somebody says, “I believe this because my parents believed it and their parents believed it, blah, blah,” you have a cult. And every time someone says “This is the truth because a consensus says so,” you have a cult.
The AGW religion is retarded, but you can’t fight retardation with another version of it. For one to sneer at the Warmists for being stupid “pagans,” while one is simultaneously thumping ones own bible isn’t logical or reasonable. It’s ridiculous.
DirkH says:
October 17, 2011 at 12:50 pm
“WetMan, you are the very first commenter on this thread who used the word “communist”.”
This is not the first thread on which the protesters are bashed. And likely also not the last. I’m not going to check, but I am pretty sure I read a commie comment or two on another thread.
It is clear that the opportunist warmists are trying to hijack the protests and this should be condemned in the strongest possible language.
However, some of the protesters are genuinely angry about what is happening, particularly here in Europe, and it is a sentiment widely shared by the common folk.
I live in Belgium and here the government is bailing out a bank again, for the second time in three years, which is just going to be another bill for the taxpayers. We are asked to accept 10 billion in cuts (read tax increases, and I already pay 55% in income tax. Yes, you read that right…55%), next year while the government is going to guarantee the debts of the Dexia bank for 45 billion. And there is nobody here that believes that this guarantee will not be turned into a bill in the near future. Adding 15% to our national debt overnight. So hell yeah, we are pretty angry!
Although the numbers are small (per George Will, the total of all OWS rallies/camps is less than the single Washington DC Tea Party event), the media is hyping it to the skies.
Ironically, another fave target of the Greens may stop the pipeline for them:
Hilarious.
(my bolding)
Rent-seekers of the World, Unite!
Anton says:
October 16, 2011 at 10:47 pm
……..”Yes, the global warming scare has turned into a substitute religion for crazy people, but don’t try to disparage it by labeling it pagan. These are not real pagans; they’re political activists cashing in, and wouldn’t know a genuine pagan teaching if someone shoved it down their throats. And in case you missed the news, the current Pope is a True Believer in AGW.”
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If you’re not a troll, don’t behave like one.
Paganism is not a belief, it is defined as those individuals who are not believers in one of the three predominant monotheistic religions.
Moreover, if the following statement makes Pope Benedict a “True Believer in AGW.” then I’m a monkey’s uncle.
PAPAL STATEMENT TO CLIMATE CHANGE MEETING
“The Earth Is Indeed a Precious Gift of the Creator”
VATICAN CITY, SEPT. 24, 2009 (Zenit.org).- Here is the text of a videostatement from Benedict XVI that was sent to the Sept. 22 U.N. summit on climate change. It contained the words he said on this issue Aug. 26, 2009, during the Wednesday general audience.
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I wish to reflect today upon the relationship between the Creator and ourselves as guardians of his creation. In so doing I also wish to offer my support to leaders of governments and international agencies who soon will meet at the United Nations to discuss the urgent issue of climate change.
The Earth is indeed a precious gift of the Creator who, in designing its intrinsic order, has given us guidelines that assist us as stewards of his creation. Precisely from within this framework, the Church considers that matters concerning the environment and its protection are intimately linked with integral human development. In my recent encyclical,Caritas in Veritate, I referred to such questions recalling the “pressing moral need for renewed solidarity” (no. 49) not only between countries but also between individuals, since the natural environment is given by God to everyone, and so our use of it entails a personal responsibility towards humanity as a whole, particularly towards the poor and towards future generations (cf. no. 48).
How important it is then, that the international community and individual governments send the right signals to their citizens and succeed in countering harmful ways of treating the environment! The economic and social costs of using up shared resources must be recognized with transparency and borne by those who incur them, and not by other peoples or future generations. The protection of the environment, and the safeguarding of resources and of the climate, oblige all leaders to act jointly, respecting the law and promoting solidarity with the weakest regions of the world (cf. no. 50). Together we can build an integral human development beneficial for all peoples, present and future, a development inspired by the values of charity in truth. For this to happen it is essential that the current model of global development be transformed through a greater, and shared, acceptance of responsibility for creation: this is demanded not only by environmental factors, but also by the scandal of hunger and human misery.
With these sentiments I wish to encourage all the participants in the United Nations summit to enter into their discussions constructively and with generous courage. Indeed, we are all called to exercise responsible stewardship of creation, to use resources in such a way that every individual and community can live with dignity, and to develop “that covenant between human beings and the environment, which should mirror the creative love of God” (Message for the 2008 World Day of Peace, 7)
The OWS people don’t know who they are, what they believe or what exactly they want (except other people’s money), so it’s no surprise we can’t get a good handle on them either.
It’s a heterogeneous group — part Marxist, part anarchist part (economic) fascist (oh yes, and part Jew-hating fascist), part unionist, part homeless, part free-love hippie, part nihilist, etc. Good ole ‘communist’ has to fit into their somewhere.
Pope Benedict has repeated spoken and written on the issue of so called manmade global warming, and has flip-flopped.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-501316/The-Pope-condemns-climate-change-prophets-doom.html
So, I will retract my statement concerning him. If he has changed his mind, that may be a good thing, though his clear indifference to animal welfare indicated in the article is discouraging. Too bad St. Augustine didn’t declare that animals had immortal souls. Since this pope and all before him have proved incapable of thinking for themselves or recognizing the animals are sentient beings, such a pronouncement would have a world of difference and spared trillions of animals untold suffering. The scandal of animal misery infinitely surpasses that of human misery.
Had you bothered to read all of my posts and responses before jumping in, you would see that I was defending pagans against unwarranted generalized smears. Do you think Buddhists are primitives who go around sacrificing babies? The original poster clearly did think so, making cracks about Earth-worshiping pagans and, later, about Beelzebub and human sacrifices. The Western Greenies are not pagans by any historical definition; they’re political activists, and they don’t represent pagans historically or globally. Even those who claim to be pagans are just wannabes following silly trends.
Calling me a troll is interesting, since I’ve been posting here for years. As a former devout pagan, I am always annoyed by Christians and others who call “my people” names and try branding them as savages. The word, from Latin paganus, means villager, country-dweller, or peasant. It doesn’t mean devil-worshiper, Democrat, dirty hippie, pothead, barbarian, ignoramus, or crackpot. That’s how the Church has used it.
Anton,
Thanks for the partial retraction. Please show where the Pope has flipped, or flopped, or where the Pope has encouraged harm to animals. Otherwise, retract your latest libel.
I repeat, there is no such thing as “paganism”. Your OT post about your religious convictions,while bashing others’ is trollish. Moreover, please don’t put words in my mouth.
A devout pagan? Is that an atheist?
His view of animals as inferior to humans is clearly stated in the very article I linked to. Some people claim he is a defender of animal rights and welfare, but actions speak louder than encyclicals. When a reigning pope finally states to the world that animals (1) have immortal, not temporal, souls (what good is a temporal soul?), and (2) that cruelty to animals is a mortal sin, then I will re-script my entire position on Christianity. Till then, it’s just another Abrahamic nightmare to me.
I am not, and have never been, an atheist.
Anton:
If everyone became a vegan today, there would not be a single cow, pig, sheep, chicken alive next week. Unless they are bred specifically for animal sacrifices on your altar. Or did you think farmers would keep them around for pets? They would die by the billions. How very hateful of you.
Btw, many people regard Buddhism as a philosophy, NOT a religion. There are many religions based somewhat, on Buddhist thought, however, that is not the same thing. Ancestor worship is only slightly better than animal worship. Get a life that doesn’t require either.
As long as you keep mentioning me in your comments, I will have to keep coming back to this non-scientific, religious discussion. Please stop, the back of my hand, is getting sore. GK
Karst, the only people I know who engage in animal sacrifices are followers of Santaria, Voodoo, some strange sects of Hinduism, some versions of Orthodox Judaism, Greek Orthodox Christianity, and in Spain, Roman Catholicism. Oh, yes, and some branches of Satanism.
There will always be animals bred for food; our pets have to eat, and they eat meat. But, if humans stopped eating meat, all the farm animals would not die by the billions, except for old age, if the humans responsible for them took care of them. Until humans stop treating fellow creatures as objects, I’m not holding my breath.
I’ve spent my life rescuing animals from Christians; my vet bills are more than ten thousand dollars a year. I actually live by my principles.
No sacrifices in my religion, not now, not ever. I happen also to be pro-life with regard to humans; fancy that.
Are you sure it’s the back of your hand, and not your palm, that’s getting sore? You’ve obviously already gone blind….
Anton,
Take your meds.
The quote from the article you posted is: “The 80-year-old Pope said the world needed to care for the environment but not to the point where the welfare of animals and plants was given a greater priority than that of mankind”.
You said: “His view of animals as inferior to humans is clearly stated in the very article I linked to.”
Nuf said?
If you’re not an atheist describe witch, or how many Gods you worship, or whatever your beliefs expect you to do for her/him?
Is masochism part of your system of belief? Apparently so.
Anton says:
October 20, 2011 at 1:01 pm
Karst, the only people I know who engage in animal sacrifices are followers of Santaria, Voodoo, some strange sects of Hinduism, some versions of Orthodox Judaism, Greek Orthodox Christianity, and in Spain, Roman Catholicism…….
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Anton,
Check your facts. See below for another persons answer for a clumsy libel against the Church
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Originally Posted by puzzleannie
animal sacrifice is not and never has been part of Catholic worship and practice. It sounds like you are describing a cultural practice, not anything endorsed by the church. since you have provided no link I will take this as urban legend until some evidence is forthcoming, but even if it were true, it is not something the Church undertakes. Your agenda for this thread is?
Hi,
I have provided no link since all the websites linking to this horrible practice have graphic images. A quick search on youtube with the term “Galgo” will yield plenty of (terrible) videos.
Since this practice is publicized in some videos as a form Marian devotion, (which I know is utter rubbish) I thought that maybe together we can educate people on this subject. A person stumbling across this kind of practice would obviously be disturbed, and it certainly isn’t good publicity for Catholics, especially since it is not part of Catholicism. I’m sorry if I came across as stating it is a practice sanctioned by the Church, I only meant that , unfortunately, some people think it is.””””””””
To say that Galgo is a Roman Catholic practice is like saying that rape is a Wiccan practice.
So much disinformation, and so little time.
Chris,
It may be a cultural thing, but there is at least one church in Spain where every year the priest climbs to the top of a spire and throws a live baby lamp into the stone courtyard below. The Vatican has not intervened.
So you’re in the same boat I am. People think Catholics worship statues and practice cannibalism, and they think pagans sacrifice animals on altars to bloodthirsty demons posing as gods. The truth is, stupid people, no matter what their religion, do stupid horrible things. Then they hide behind their religion and its scriptures to justify their barbarism. None of the pagans I grew up around would dream of harming an animal or sacrificing anything to any god, real or imaginary. But, some pagans do, and some Christians do. It’s up religious leaders to stop them.
The religion Bon–a sister to Buddhism–forbids sacrifices or cruelty to animals or even eating meat, yet some followers perform terrible animal sacrifices. The Dalai Lama finally stepped in and told them to knock it off.
I believe in a unified intelligence, conscious or not, that controls the entire Universe as a single organism, which is what keeps it from falling apart: the same intelligence that maintains homeostasis in our bodies, and keeps everything running a concerted whole. But, I also accept that one can address aspects of this intelligence individually, rather than collectively, and that these may be defined as gods by some people. I also believe that if enough people believe in something, they can create it, so that some “gods” are actually thought-forms. I think of all gods as cosmic Web browsers, giving one access to the whole by enabling an emotional bond with something on a level one can relate to. It’s easier praying to a “god” one can imagine than to one beyond human conception. Since people of all religions claim their prayers are answered, it’s obviously their faith, not the god, who produces the response.
There may be no atheists in fox holes; there are also no former pagans. In a pinch or crisis, I would pray to anything benevolent that might be of help, and I couldn’t care less what this or that religion teaches about such things. I lost my fear of God when I began studying comparative religions as a teenager.
I also believe that deliberately harming an animal is every bit as bad as harming a human baby. Animals ARE babies compared to humans, and every bit as innocent. There are also a hundred times as many animals as humans on this planet, so, yes, I think their need surpasses even ours, and that the Pope is wrong for not recognizing this. The Church rightly rails against elective abortion, but says nothing about cruelty to animals. Why do you think that is? I already know. I went to Catholic schools are heard the official explanation time and again. But, why the loony philosophical mutterings of Thomas Aquinas should take precedence over the evidence of our own senses is inexplicable.
Typo: That’s baby lamb, not baby lamp.
BTW, the “gods” I refer to are things in our own minds, like imaginary friends, that somehow resonate with us. I don’t believe in gods out there meddling in our affairs. It doesn’t matter. If praying to an imaginary friend produces results, why not do it? We answer our own prayers, but to do so we have to set something in motion, and faith is the trick. The bigger trick is to imagine something higher, not lower, and better, not worse.
In a hundred years, who is going to care?
I’m speechless, I rest my case.
Btw: A lamb is a baby sheep. A baby lamb is a baby baby. You would know that if your cognitive abilities were not inhibited by a protein deficiency. GK
So if someone says “baby kitten” or “what an adorable little pup” that negates the statement? A lamb is a young sheep, not necessarily a baby. A kitten is a cat who isn’t fully grown, not necessarily a baby. The priest on the roof throws a baby (lamb) down into the courtyard. It is an animal sacrifice performed by a Christian for a Christian audience.
If you can’t defend your idiotic comments about pagans and pagan bigotry with something better than erroneous word-parsing, you can’t defend it, period.
For someone who is speechless, you keep yapping. And how can you rest your case, if you keep going on? Seems to me, you have the grammar problem. I’m an editor, and I’m pretty careful with the words I use, though this is a blog, not a newspaper. Baby lamb (specific), not lamb (general). Now, why don’t you look up “speechless” and “resting ones case?”
Anton says:
October 20, 2011 at 3:50 pm
Chris,
It may be a cultural thing, but there is at least one church in Spain where every year the priest climbs to the top of a spire and throws a live baby lamp into the stone courtyard below. The Vatican has not intervened.
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I’m assuming you meant lamb, and not a baby lam(p), which presumably is a small light fixture.
At the risk of prolonging the torture, do you have any evidence of this claim of yours? If not, please refrain from your persistent anti-Christian bigotry.
[NOTE: This has gone on for far too long. Please take note of the WUWT policy here. Any further attempts at prolonging this discussion will be trashed. -REP]
Moderator REP,
I read the policy, and agree that discussing religion on WUWT is counter productive. My issue is that false claims against any religion, or group, or individual, should either not be allowed, or should not go unchallenged. That puts you as a moderator in a tough spot.
I’m glad that this line of discussion has been, mercifully, ended.
Thank you.
C