Greenpeace in our time

Josh from cartoonsbyjosh.com has been extra busy this week. He writes of the latest IPCC debacle:

Christopher Booker suggested a lovely idea for his latest article They did not use it there… it is here instead 😉

Oh but wait…there’s more…Josh also writes:

Also from the article, the sad fact that Wind Turbines, much loved by the renewable energy lobby, requires back up generators if they are going to supply continuous energy.

So what is the difference bewteen now and a greener future? More dead birds and a hideous view? Great.

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Cassie King
June 18, 2011 9:12 pm

From the ecofascists of the budding 4th Reich we have a supposed fanatical concern about wildlife, halting factory construction to protect toads or spiders and even halting a port expansion to protect some slime. However the silence from the eco green shirts is deafening about the vast numbers of birds and bats being killed by the growing number of windmills/bird manglers.
Suddenly from a total commitment to protecting all lifeforms like slime and bacteria even at the expense of jobs and economic prosperity to a total silence about decimated bird and bat populations, some of which are rare. Greenpeace should be called redconflict. Its a political organisation with political aims and as such views all things as tools to further its political ambitions. Poverty and misery and hate and jealousy is the perfect manure in which Marxism grows and prospers, they need it and thrive in it and without it they are nothing.
Prosperity and contentment, full employment and a vibrant economic environment, these are poison to Marxist agitators like greenpeace/redconflict. If it meant killing all wildlife on earth to bring about their warped political vision then that would be a small price for them. Everything is political and everything is expendable and everything is a political tool to be exploited.

Legatus
June 18, 2011 9:29 pm

The real question is, what are we going to do with all those dead birds? Some suggestions:
Fertilizer, we want green, right?
But wait, first mulch and make methane out of em, then use the remainder for fertilizer, we will need the methane to make some actual power anyway.
Animal feed, but we all know people eating meat is bad and evil (PETA, People Eating Tasty Animals).
Or we could gather them all up and mail them to certain government officials…

June 18, 2011 9:44 pm

bluedolly25 says:
June 18, 2011 at 6:00 pm
I beleive there are reasonable ways to use particular sources for energy. I want to save the earth but I wouldn’t want to rely on what makes the Hybrid runs. If you uses the right source of energy for whatever reasons then you help save the earth and . I explain more later.

Please don’t. More illiterate garbled nonsense is not wanted.

Amino Acids in Meteorites
June 18, 2011 10:26 pm

The bird choppers needs to be a t-shirt.

Phillip Bratby
June 18, 2011 11:02 pm

Josh forgot to draw in the power lines connecting the turbines to the grid and the roads connecting all the trurbines together.

June 18, 2011 11:48 pm

Just like in the case of Peace in our time, you’re negotiating about us without us! 😉

June 18, 2011 11:55 pm

On the web, by the way, the cool “Greenpeace in our time” headline was also used by Christopher here:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/8584210/The-IPCC-declares-Greenpeace-in-our-time.html

Blade
June 19, 2011 12:40 am

NikFromNYC [June 18, 2011 at 8:47 pm] says:

NikFromNYC, can you get your bird stuff past the socialists censors here?
Some select examples of comments to [guardian.co.uk] UK urges Ireland to build wind farms on west coast

“I have always been for wind farms but the bird killing issue disturbs me. Is there any concrete evidence for this?”

“Not as far as I know. I think some prototype models poorly situated did, but it’s pretty rare for modern turbines to kill birds. If you want to compare and contrast killing methods, I guess our entire planetary ecosystem is adversely affected by CO2 emissions …”

“Some seem quite happy to whine about birds and eyesores while failing to offer any alternative solution to the mining and burning of fossil fuels … In fact birds are not an issue if the turbines are placed correctly and onshore turbines can in fact protect an area’s biodiversity by not allowing any other construction in the area. More birds are killed by cats in the UK and Ireland than wind turbines. I don’t see any RSPB campaign against cats.”

“By the way, I don’t have any links but, from memory, studies have shown that wind farms pose very little threat to bird populations. Birds tend to be quite clever when it comes to avoiding large obstacles.”

“There has been a lot of work done on this issue, one big study tagged migrating birds and recorded their movements. It was found the birds were quite aware of the turbines and plotted a course around or in between them and they even managed this at night so it’s not really a problem. Sorry no I have no link for this, it was in a lecture.”

kim
June 19, 2011 12:49 am

Yep, I think ‘Greenpeace in our Time’ is a trenchant slogan. I’ve got precedence for it at CA, but I’m glad others think it’s effective.
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kim
June 19, 2011 12:52 am

Heh, on rereading, I like it even better now.
Oh God, please lift the
Guilt of achieving success.
Greenpeace in our time.
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kim
June 19, 2011 1:10 am

The bird and the bat killing, tragic though it is, and useful for demonstrating green hypocrisy, is only strike four against the windmills. Strike one is energy density, strike two is intermittency, and strike three is the noise pollution, subsonic even worse than audible.
We will always cherish a few of them as signal markers of how high the tide of human foolishness can rise.
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kim
June 19, 2011 1:13 am

If you’d told Fritz Lang of this, he’d have laughed his ass off and then gotten busy.
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June 19, 2011 2:27 am

Borrowed Josh’s cartoon for our fight against this wind farm, http://www.palmerston-north.info – hope that it’s OK to do so. Happy to remove it if it’s not. We are gaining traction in this 5 year battle and the website has been a great tool. I strongly recommend others in this situation build a website, and without courting a defamation lawsuit, be blunt and speak your mind. The promoters will not fight fair and will try every trick in the book. All it will cost is a domain name. We should have a final decision soon.

View from the Solent
June 19, 2011 3:10 am

In a similar vein. Our green and pleasant land http://fenbeagleblog.wordpress.com/2011/06/18/leaning-against-the-wind/

Mr Lynn
June 19, 2011 4:52 am

Steven Kopits says:
June 18, 2011 at 6:23 pm
Univ Colorado drawing fire for re-working sea level change rates.
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/06/17/research-center-under-fire-for-adjusted-sea-level-data/

I’m surprised that this hasn’t made WUWT yet—did I miss it?
/Mr Lynn

Jimbo
June 19, 2011 8:29 am

Mr Lynn says:
June 19, 2011 at 4:52 am
I think the sea level rise story was already been covered on WUWT.
5th May, 2011
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/05/05/new-sea-level-page-from-university-of-colorado-now-up/

Craig Goodrich
June 19, 2011 8:45 am

Not only do they devastate vast swaths landscape and kill birds in wholesale lots, they drive out wildlife for miles around. No deer, bear, squirrels, or even raccoons. We know this from experience in West Virginia, Pennsylvania, and Maine.
In Wisconsin, farmers are finding that the stress of constant subsonic noise is reducing the productivity of dairy herds and increasing livestock miscarriages. In the Yorkshire seal breeding grounds on the North Sea, vastly more seal pups have been found born dead or abandoned by their mothers, due to noise stress from the offshore wind farm — subsonic noise travels huge distances underwater.
These utterly useless monstrosities are doing more damage to more of the planet than all human pollution since the beginning of the industrial age. It is long past time to get serious about saving the environment from the environmentalists.
Visit wind-watch.org for more information.

grayman
June 19, 2011 9:33 am

Bob Tisdale, For those of us old enough to remember those machines that is CLASSIC!! LMAO

James Keenan
June 19, 2011 10:50 am

I doubt it would be possible to find a picture of an ugly scar from a coal strip-mining operation. (And I’m sure the acid rain has no effect on bird populations either directly for through the resulting destruction of environment. We also need not mention “black lung” other to say it is a recommended homeopathic treatment for all respiratory ailments).
No double standards observed here. None at all.
/sarc

phlogiston
June 19, 2011 11:19 am

Mr Lynn says:
June 19, 2011 at 4:52 am
Steven Kopits says:
June 18, 2011 at 6:23 pm
Univ Colorado drawing fire for re-working sea level change rates.
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/06/17/research-center-under-fire-for-adjusted-sea-level-data/
I’m surprised that this hasn’t made WUWT yet—did I miss it?
/Mr Lynn
Something odd is going on re sea level – here is Steve Goddard’s take:
http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2011/06/19/hiding-the-decline-in-sea-level/
REPLY: I covered it two months ago, old news. Just because Fox and Goddard and a bunch of people are caterwauling now doesn’t mean WUWT “missed” it.
– Anthony

phlogiston
June 19, 2011 11:26 am

Bob Tisdale says:
June 18, 2011 at 5:28 pm

Windmills = Birdamatic. Slices, dices, makes Julienne fries.

grayman says:
June 19, 2011 at 9:33 am

Bob Tisdale, For those of us old enough to remember those machines that is CLASSIC!! LMAO

Was this machine what Jim Carrey was advertising in the film “The Truman show”? In the kitchen scene with his “wife” near the end?

thisisgettingtiresome
June 19, 2011 12:33 pm

I do like the last line of the Brooker piece:-
“A spokesman for the IPCC was unavailable for comment.”
That’s probably just as well, given their propensity to completely balls things up every time they say something.

Craig Goodrich
June 19, 2011 1:20 pm

James Keenan, June 19, 2011 at 10:50 am —
Precisely. Notice that the real environmental problems of coal are from mining, not burning (the “acid rain” nonsense being another phony scare); the burning pollution is a solved problem (fluidized bed, scrubbers, etc.); the remaining challenge is to make these technologies cheaper so that China and India will include them in their designs.
The US is now spending the equivalent of $300 for every man, woman, and child in the population annually on subsidies to “wind power”. Can you imagine the progress that could have been made had even a small fraction of that sum been spent on research towards safer and cleaner coal mining?

Karoly
June 19, 2011 3:56 pm

Jimmy Haigh says:
June 18, 2011 at 6:30 pm
> Oliver Martin says:
> June 18, 2011 at 5:01 pm
>> A “Silent Spring” energy policy?
> Nice one – wind power will probably kill a lot more birds than DDT ever did.
And getting rid of it wouldn’t cause more people to go blind. It would in fact remove an eyesore.