The full article from Forbes here is quite interesting to read, but the comments are even more interesting. I particularly got a chuckle out of Bell’s rebuttal to serial regurgitator Tenny Naumer, who unfailingly reposts most anything that agrees with her worldview from CP on her website and does so without question and mostly without comment. This one from Tenny had me ROFL:
Tell them how the explorers trying to go through the Northwest Passage took 3 years to do so in the olden days, not a matter of days like they do now.
Its motors Tenny, motors trumps sails. Oh, and icebreakers. And precise maps, and GPS…and…oh never mind. As an example, here’s one Northeast Passage story that took days (thanks to nuclear powered icebreakers) Tenny never reposted if she read it:
The surprising real story about this year’s Northeast passage transit: The media botched it
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This is correct. Anybody that’s bothered to read Gore’s An Inconvenient Truth knows this to be an accurate assessment–elevating it to the form of a cult. And you know what happens to cults: They tailspin into oblivion.
cult /kʌlt/ Show Spelled
[kuhlt]
–noun
1. a particular system of religious worship, especially with reference to its rites and ceremonies.
2. an instance of great veneration of a person, ideal, or thing, especially as manifested by a body of admirers: the physical fitness cult.
3. the object of such devotion.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/cult
Northeast, Northwest… eh whats the difference? 😀
Not just motors. GPS navigation systems, radar, sonar, weather reports, ice breakers, accurate charts, known safe harbors and refitting communities etc. etc. etc. etc.
REPLY: Heh, thanks, you are correct. I just added much the same thing after another cup of coffee. The point is all of our travel is faster today than in “the olden days”, thanks to improved technology. – Anthony
Sorry, I find people like Tenny much too frightening to be laughable.
Just read where the Obama administration is proposing giving the EPA much more control over groundwater. He’s choking our country of energy. And people like Tenny are enablers.
If you like dystopian fiction, read D. Keith Mano’s speculative novel, The Bridge, for a look at Greenism taken to its logical conclusion. The Amazon reviews are at http://www.amazon.com/bridge-D-Keith-Mano/product-reviews/0385028709/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
Before, you would get the Salvation Army and other religious charities standing on street corners asking for donations, now you get the WWF and other greenies on these same street corners. Before, you got mendicant priests that depend on your goodness for a living, now you get mendicant scientists begging for grants and funding at every opportunity to maintain their lifestyle, but they tell you it’s because the salvation of mankind is at stake. The analogies don’t get any better.
Why isn’t anyone worried about the weakening of gravity? In 1850 we were totally incapable of flight, yet in 2011 we are able to lauch massive pieces of metal out of our atmosphere! My god in another 100 years we’ll all simply float off into oblivion unless something done! We cannot afford to wait!
Unfounded belief is a common facet of many politicized ideas. In adopting a belief, people tend to ignore or attack facts that are counter to their belief. Very often this behavior resembles a crowd of fans cheering on a team despite whatever many faults the team may have (unfair play, etc). In short, ‘belief’ is often the dangerous antithesis of ‘objectivity’. And unfortunately in a world of large numbers of people, it is the majority of people who lack critical thinking skills that become ‘believers’ of ideas that are false.
Also, how many miles could they sail through the Northwest passage during the winter during those 3 years trip? Not many, I guess. Same as if you try to use the passage on January.
Australia’s $180,000/yr Official Climate Archbishop, Dr. Tim Flannery is quoted revealingly in the Globe and Mail review of his latest book, Here on Earth:
“A leaf is a small miracle, for through it a transubstantiation occurs – of a lifeless gas into a solid, living being. It’s a sort of resurrection of CO2, the gas given off with death and decay, the gas that enshrouds dead planets. Yet from it plants forge beauteous forms that support all the hosts of earthly life, ourselves included.”
The whole review is well worth reading for an insight into the uncritical jettisoning of rational thought by those seized by the rapture.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/arts/books/here-on-earth-by-tim-flannery/article1987204/print/
Amen to that.
It’s getting closer and closer to the time where the climate change cultists will have to drink the Kool-aid.
More evidence of ‘cult’ in the comments section of this factual and well-written article by Ted Lapkin in ABC’s “The Drum” of all places. I can only surmise that education has been very seriously dumbed down if this is the sort of response he gets, why oh why do CAGW proponents have to resort to adhoms, smear and innuendo. They don’t seem to be able to recognside the difference between facts and fiction!
http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/387130.html
K2 says:
April 28, 2011 at 8:53 am
Good point. So now that guy on the corner with the sign that says “World Ends Tomorrow” could be a climate scientist or a religious believer.
That article on the Northeast Passage is most interesting as was the media’s attempt to portray a transit defined in 1934 as a novel product of Global Warming and hence bad. Stupid or calculating?
Your link to the Bell article didn’t work for me, but this does:
http://blogs.forbes.com/larrybell/2011/04/26/climate-change-as-religion-the-gospel-according-to-gore/
[Link fixed, thanx. ~dbs, mod.]
Not to mention the fact that in the really olden days, a lot of the explorers died of lead poisoning from the lead used to seal the cans of the provisions that they packed.
Mark Gibbas says:
April 28, 2011 at 8:58 am
Unfounded belief is a common facet of …..
ALL beliefs are unfounded!
Andy Revkin just posted an analysis by psychology fellow Stephan Lewandowsky that is related to climate change and deniers of facts. Guess who the fact denialists are…
“Ideology trumps facts.
And it doesn’t matter what the ideology is, whether socialism, any brand of fundamentalist religion, or free-market extremism. The psychological literature shows quite consistently that a threat to one’s worldview is more than likely met by a dismissal of facts, however strong the evidence. Indeed, the stronger the evidence, the greater the threat — and hence the greater the denial.”
“In its own bizarre way, then, the rising noise level of climate denial provides further evidence that global warming resulting from human CO2 emissions is indeed a fact, however inconvenient it may be.”
Perhaps it is also evidence that hypothesized catastrophic warming from human CO2 emissions is, ah, incorrect, and people are catching on. Or as Michael Tobis might calmly assert, the chickensh*t catastrophic fracking warming from fracking human fracking CO2 fracking emissions is fracking incorrect, you fracking fracker.
Achtung! Socialists and climate deniers (now we’re dropping catastrophic, anthropogenic and change?) are lumped into the same sorting bin.
What is climate denial?
http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/04/28/on-birth-certificates-climate-risk-and-an-inconvenient-mind/
Unfortunatly it is a religion to many, and they will be crying about global warming even as a Glacier reclaims NYC. Nothing will change their minds.
Mark Gibbas says: “Unfounded belief is a common facet of many politicized ideas. In adopting a belief, people tend to ignore or attack facts that are counter to their belief. Very often this behavior resembles a crowd of fans cheering on a team despite whatever many faults the team may have (unfair play, etc)….”
Yes. The presence of noisy fans can and often does influence the outcome in the desired direction. The desired direction in climate science is political subjugation of the population. Gore and the rent boys of science KNOW they can’t make AGW real, but that’s not their objective. Legislation to establish an irreversible oligarchy is the goal. .
@ur momisugly mkelly. If the sign says,”World Ends Tomorrow Unless You Give Me All Your Money”, it’s a climate scientist.
ew-3 says:
April 28, 2011 at 8:43 am
“Sorry, I find people like Tenny much too frightening to be laughable.
Just read where the Obama administration is proposing giving the EPA much more control over groundwater. He’s choking our country of energy. And people like Tenny are enablers.”
Just heard on the radio this morning where two “green” organizations were successful in litigation blocking some more oil drilling here in WY to save “sacred Indian” sites and some desert land. This while gas prices are skying and unemployment is rampant. This collateral damage to our country and economy was not even mentioned, of course. It was pesented more like a hero story with no rebuttal of any kind.
The greens continue to be the most dangerous bunch to our country’s economy and national security, much more negative in total impact than a few idiots with bombs that never seem to go off. They stop progress of any kind; energy production, refinery construction, nulear power plant development, and you name it. They are even trying to stop ranching, ie food production, using sage grouse ( not endangered) as an excuse. I am not surprised that water is on their list of issues to prevent progress.
Due to the constant litigation by these left wing fanatics many projects are not undertaken or even planned for fear of years of delay and legal costs. No wonder that the trial lawyers tend to be lefties as well. This disruptive activity ensures that small businesses that might get into a variety of productive areas never do as deep pockets are required to even consider entry. Of course, small businesses create most of the new jobs, another big loss due to our socialist friends the “greenies”. But it sure makes many of them them feel proud as they think they saved some snail or rat or whatever.
Rocky Road posted an accurate definition of cult–it is a pejorative for religion, like “the N-word” is a pejorative for blacks. I find it offensive that people pretend there is something wrong with being black, and I find it offensive that people find something wrong with religions. The cult word offends me greatly and I do not even believe in God.
However, when something pretends to be science, like politician Al Bore and his warmists, but then they function as a religion, that is offensive, too.
But I like Organic food, and fight against pollution when I can.
Fortunately what I believe or what you believe has no bearing or influence on whatever the truth is.
The truth will out and the people who knowingly tried to misrepresent the truth in science should be thoroughly expunged from science.
Politicians can still lie with impunity because that is what we expect them to do.