The revelation that the UN predicted 50 million climate refugees by 2010, it failed , and then the UN “disappeared” the evidence that they ever made such a prediction brightly illustrates a common theme to global warming aka climate change that has been repeated again and again.
Many times, these climate failures get a mention, and then fade into obscurity. When we try to find them later, search engines aren’t as useful or cooperative as we’d like. I want to change that by providing a central repository for such failed claims. I’ll make it a special page, part of our menu bar, with an icon link on the sidebar, suitable for placement on other websites. The Climate FAIL files page exists here.
To populate the page, as a starting seed resource, we have the excellent NumberWatch UK warm list, which lists all manner of claims about global warming, some contradictory, some silly, some serious. It is a good place to start.
Like with surfacestations.org, this project can benefit from crowd-sourcing the work. WUWT readers are already quite sharp-eyed, providing hundreds of items to our Tips & Notes section each month. I see this as simply a logical extension of what is already being done.
Here’s a good example, posted in Tips & Notes today:
Predicator says on 2011/04/16 at 9:10 am
I’ve been searching for those ‘by 2010′ things that didn’t exactly come true. Here’s one find:
Solar costs to match coal by 2010
http://www.carbonpositive.net/viewarticle.aspx?articleID=645
Monday, 9 April 2007
The cost of producing solar power will fall to that of coal-fired electricity by the end of the decade, according to a report by Europe’s Photon Consulting.
There, a perfect example of a testable prediction. That prediction can be easily documented as true/false today with available data at hand. Have at it folks.
I wish to make it clear that this new feature isn’t to be as free form as simply dropping a comment, as I don’t have time to research and chase down every claim, that’s where the crowd-sourcing comes in. I want each entry to be testable, and documented. Let’s use the scientific method, applied to claims made by figureheads, government, science and media.
For each entry, we’ll need the following:
- The claim itself – what was stated as factual or predicted? A clear unambiguous statement, such as “50 million climate refugees by 2010”
- Proof of the original claim – website, documents, photos, audio, video that clearly and unambiguously show the claim being made sometime in the past.
- A test of the of the claim, and the results – website, documents, photos, audio, video that clearly and unambiguously show the claim not coming true or not meeting the claim.
and /or
- Proof of change in the claim (if applicable) – often, when the claim fails to materialize, goalposts get moved, such as we saw with the “50 million climate refugees” story that was originally set with a due date of 2010, is now set for the year 2020.
All of this, once documented fully, will be added to the list. It will give a reference which can be used to debunk overhyped, modified on demand, or simply false claims that we see over and over again.
Some tools to help you are listed below
General purpose search engines
Obviously there’s Google, but Google has clearly made a recent change to algorithms that may not give the results you are looking for, here’s some alternates:
Obvious ones: Bing.com Yahoo.com Ask.com Aol Search
Some “not so obvious” ones:
http://www.dogpile.com/ http://www.yandex.com/
http://duckduckgo.com/ http://www.altavista.com/ http://startpage.com/
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Specialty search engines
engine for scientific enquiries: http://www.scirus.com
Google scholar: http://scholar.google.com/
Gooble Books: http://books.google.com/
The Wayback Machine (finds old versions of websites)
Archive.org (even broader search to include audio, images, books)
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Archiving tools
Webcite (makes a permanent copy of any web page, free)
Tinypic (free storage of screencaps and images)
Local website archive (free and paid versions, allows saving entire websites to disk)
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I’ll add to this list as new ones are suggested in comments.
The new page on WUWT is Climate FAIL Files and is ready to be populated. Start your discussions here and if you have subjects to tackle, list them in comments. I’ll add them as we go.
Discussion will move to a new thread at some point, but let’s start here first.
Here’s how I propose to format the entries:
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The Claim: 50 million climate refugees will be produced by climate change by the year 2010. Especially hard hit will be river delta areas, and low lying islands in the Carribean and Pacific. The UN 62nd General assembly in July 2008 said: …it had been estimated that there would be between 50 million and 200 million environmental migrants by 2010.
The Test: Did population go down in these areas during that period, indicating climate refugees were on the move? The answer, no.
The Proof: Population actually gained in some Carribean Islands for which 2010 census figures were available. Then when challenged on these figures, the UN tried to hide the original claim from view. See: The UN “disappears” 50 million climate refugees, then botches the disappearing attempt
The Change in claim: Now it is claimed that it will be 10 years into the future, and there will be 50 million refugees by the year 2020.
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Anthony: Dr. Robert Davidson is a music teacher. But I would still be interested in hearing any proof of his allegations, despite his total lack of credentials in climate change.
From the website his name is linked to:
Robert Davidson is currently a lecturer in Composition at the University of Queensland. Davidson studied composition with Terry Riley in California and New York, and completed a PhD in composition at the University of Queensland. He previously studied South Indian vocal music in Kerala, India. He was a bassist in the Australian Opera, Sydney Symphony, and Queensland Symphony orchestras before working as a freelance computer programmer. Davidson formed Topology with its four other principals in 1996 and has played at numerous festivals and venues around the world.
This is a great idea Anthony. Do we put suggestions in the Tips and Notes? It would be nice to have a dedicated page to post suggestion on the menu bar.
Failed AGW Predictions And Forecasts
http://www.c3headlines.com/predictionsforecasts/
Eight failed environmental predictions and forecasts
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/12/30/botched-environmental-forecasts/
Here are some that failed:
“It seems unthinkable, but for the first time in human history, ice is on course to disappear entirely from the North Pole this year.” [2008]
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/exclusive-no-ice-at-the-north-pole-855406.html
“Snowfalls are now just a thing of the past” [2000]
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/snowfalls-are-now-just-a-thing-of-the-past-724017.html
http://nofrakkingconsensus.wordpress.com/2010/01/07/climate-psychics-10-year-old-snow-prediction-fails-miserably/
You could just have a permanent link to the “New Scientist” site. Here’s a piece of theirs that I still had from a couple of years ago:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn13779-north-pole-could-be-ice-free-in-2008.html
Dr Robert Davidson says:
April 16, 2011 at 8:37 pm
“Hey contrarians, remember that over 97% of the experts (who know better than you) agree with the young people. They are not going to idly put up with your nonsense for much longer.”
Dr. Davidson, be careful what you wish for; the tables might be turned on *you* more easily than you might imagine.
Some failures can be found here:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/04/03/the-big-self-parodying-climate-change-blame-list/
One suggestion is to only include peer reviewed claims and IPCC claims. Warmists defend themselves by stating that the claim was not peer reviewed.
Further to my last comment is may be worth having a dedicated page for Al Gore’s predictions. He needs dedicated rebuttals.
Hi Mr Lynn,
Show me a Warmist blog that does this?
BTW WUWT links to Real Climate while the last time I looked Real Climate does not link to WUWT (though some others do). Warmists don’t play fair so why should we? They are the ones making claims so let them list it for themselves; WUWT is a sceptic blog not a confirmist blog.
Most of the predictions by Sir Nicholas Stern from earlier in the 21st century should be easily falsifiable by now.
Very useful, a climate change science, ‘Graveyard of Failed Predictions’. Thanx Anthony.
Brilliant idea! I’m sure no one has ever thought of this bef…….oh, wait……there’s that c3 headlines site that your readers mention from time to time. Sure enough that sites got a ‘prediction failure’ page with multiple pages of links to climate fail articles. Hey, what the heck, save yourself some time, and ahem, just borrow that site’s content also!
http://www.c3headlines.com/predictionsforecasts/
Bob Diaz says:
April 16, 2011 at 7:45 pm
RE: Solar costs to match coal by 2010
I don’t want to nitpick you, but if you look at the price of solar electric per watt from 1980 to today, there is a clear downward trend. –>> IF <<– the trend continues, solar will match coal in around 30 or so years. You are correct, the prediction of 2010 was flat out wrong. However, around 2040, it MIGHT be possible. This raises an interesting question of how to rate a prediction that gives the date as too soon, but it happens much later on.
REPLY: Oh but you are nitpicking, and it’s a lame nitpick if ever I saw one. Fair enough, if someone makes a claim that we’re all going to Hell in a handcart sometime between the next, say, ten and fifty years, then fine, you can’t hold them to account when it doesn’t come to pass within ten years (although one can and should ridicule such flimsy, cynical “predictions” for the very reason that they are unaccountable). On the other hand there are the all-too-arrogant claims designed to alarm us into believing the world as we know it is going to end at some definitive point in the future if we don’t change our evil ways. When the prediction fails to come to pass, I’m not going to “rate the prediction” any more kindly just because it “might” yet come to pass some time later.
Anthony,
I beg you to reconsider.
If you proceed with this plan it will be disastrous. Based upon my models and data (proprietery) the planet will run out of pixels by 2015. 98% certainty.
May I suggest that the Fail Files be organised into a table with categories. For example Arctic melt, Gulf Stream, Temperature, etc. as it would be much quicker to track down and use the appropriate category.
The scientist was attempting to deceive. The Arctic has been ice-free during the last 11,000 years.
http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.quascirev.2010.08.016
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2007AGUFMPP11A0203F
http://geology.geoscienceworld.org/cgi/content/abstract/21/3/227
Anthony, with regards to “Specialty search engines” you could put archived news searches such as these:
http://news.google.com/archivesearch/advanced_search
http://trove.nla.gov.au/
This is where you find claims. For example search between 1980 and 2000 for claims and compare to the present. Steven Goddard gets plenty of failed claims there.
Regarding “Dr” Robert Davidson.
As an Australian I cannot tolerate the not so veiled threat of violence against scientific sceptics who disagree with Mr Davidson.
Australia is a country that has a sad history when it comes to violence against women, indigenous peoples and minorities who refuse to accept the “consensus” line. People of good will would do well to disown this reactionary posturing and remember that there are laws in Australia against Incitement and Hate Crimes (vilification and incitement to violence on the basis of person’s beliefs).
I wonder if the other members of the band (Topology) are aware of Dr Davidson’s activities, after all, they have a lot of government funding supporting them; perhaps they would like to keep it.
From “Dr” Davidson’s website
“Topology is assisted by the Commonwealth Government through the Australia Council its arts funding and advisory body and by the Queensland Government through Arts Queensland. Topology also gratefully acknowledges the support of the Brisbane Powerhouse and Boyd’s The Piano Shop.This website was proudly funded by the Queensland Government’s Gambling Community Benefit Fund. Topology is supported by the Australian Government through the Australia International Cultural Council, an initiative of the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade”.
Dr Davidson, learn a bit of moderation (then a bit of science).
Marine_Shale
Excellent project, and guaranteed to spoil many an AGW alarmist’s day for the foreseeable future (or more accurately, unforeseeable future).
Watch out for hackers, man made computer viruses, and an effort to overwhelm the site.
“Noting that Himalayan glaciers which feed the rivers are melting due to global warming, India’s Strategic Foresight Group last year estimated that in the coming 20 years India, China, Nepal and Bangladesh will face a depletion of almost 360 billion cubic yards of annual renewable water.”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42630131/ns/world_news-world_environment
View from the Solent says:
April 17, 2011 at 2:14 am
Proof that the claim was false? Where to start? Any report of snowbound UK during the last winter will do. And the previous winter.
The picture of the UK in white out would do it for the sentient amongst us. 🙂
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/topics/weather/6947586/Snow-covers-Britain-from-head-to-toe.html
This is very good idea. Thanks for taking it on.
However.. you may find it rather more work than you probably expect. In particular you’ll find that WP is not designed to deal with the rapid fire change this kind of thing requires for success. What that means is that you’ll find yourself spending time doing the things it doesn’t – and because that seems a waste of your time, I’d like to offer a small suggestion.
You need a wiki type system for this – one in which lots of people can make changes, but those changes can be tracked and managed by subject experts. More, to back this up, you probably need to maintain a repository of linked web pages (so the people who put them up can’t make you look like an idiot by changing them). Once that’s all in place, the page link from the main WUWT site can be maintained within your WP environment and things will work with a minimum of fuss and bother.
If you want to discuss this, or want help making it work.. well, you have my email and I’ll be happy to help.
I think this compilation of information should result in one or more creatively named ‘awards’ being presented to persons or institutions who, in the reader’s opinions, represent the zenith of failed prediction. The award’s monetary component would of course never materialize.
slow to follow says: April 17, 2011 at 12:45 am Bob Davidson – I think you mean “It’s a marketing issue”?
slow, Speaking of marketing I am dealing with a slightly inconvienent issue with my 95% efficient propane furnace. The idiot lights on my 9 year old system keep telling me different issues are causing my primary heating system to turn itself off. The problem is only slightly inconvienent- it’s getting a bit warmer in my foothill location in Northern CA- as my back up portable electric heaters are able to warm things up so that it is only slightly inconvenient temperature wise in the morning. I wonder how much CO2 is being generated by the HVAC guys who have been out to diagnose the problem (let alone fit it- I am awaiting their recommendations). The propane supply company is due out on Tuesday to check their part of the system to ensure adequate flows (and quality of the gas). I wonder if it’s only me that has issues with their energy efficient appliances requiring more maintenance and having a shorter lifespan then the older less energy efficient appliances. There must be some reason that Maytag doesn’t market their appliances as never needing the repair guy………..
An article by Cynthia Mitchcell, et al entitled “Stabilizing CA Demand- The real reasons behind the state’s energy savings” http://www.fortnightly.com/exclusive.cfm?o_id=159 is an enlightening review of the factors that influenced the stable kw/capita usage in CA.
“In 2005, California’s energy policymakers and regulators established energy efficiency (EE) as California’s highest priority resource for meeting future needs in a clean, reliable, and low-cost manner.1 In 2006, the California legislature and governor positioned energy conservation and efficiency as the cornerstone of the state’s Global Warming Solutions Act. The Act mandates a 2020 statewide limit on greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions to 1990 levels. Compliance will be nothing short of Herculean: California will have to reduce per capita energy usage in a manner that accommodates continued brisk population growth and protects the state’s economy from economic dislocations and recessionary pressures”
May I suggest that you dedicate this project to the memory of Julian Simon?