Chicago snow 2011 and 1967 – global warming then too?

Here’s the national snow depth, Chicago has between 20-30 inches of snow by this map:

Source: http://www.nohrsc.nws.gov/nsa/

Dr. Richard Keen writes in an email:

I was a college student in Chicago for the 1967 Big Snow, so here’s a couple of photos I took back then.  There will be lots of comparing of yesterday’s storm with the ’67 snow, so I’ve thrown in some current pictures from the Chicago Tribune of the two storms to compare with my ’67 photos.  Kind of looks the same!

After the storm, I looked under the hoods of a few cars and it was solid packed snow.

Here’s Chicago yesterday:

And another from yesterday:

Now let’s have a look at 1967:

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Al Gored
February 3, 2011 11:48 am

I wonder how Rahm is taking advantage of this “crisis”?/only sort of sarc

Dave Springer
February 3, 2011 11:52 am

Meanwhile in Del Rio, Texas right on the Mexican border (I was there for a wedding on 1/1/11) a record was set yesterday:

record event report
National Weather Service Austin/San Antonio, TX
923 am CST Thu 3 2011
… Record low maximum temperature set at del Rio…
A record low maximum temperature of 30 degrees was set at del Rio
International Airport on Wednesday February 2nd. This breaks the
previous record of 36 degrees set in 1956.

That’s quite a low maximum record. I expect a buttload of them will be set today as it’s barely 24 degrees in Austin right now. Not sure what the record is but it hasn’t been below 34 degrees on this date in at least 16 years. It is rare to get any daytime maximum in Austin that isn’t above freezing. I can only recall a couple of times in the past 18 years and it wasn’t this far below freezing on those occasions. The AGW faithful are going to be using the “weather isn’t climate” meme like crazy.

February 3, 2011 12:14 pm

Doug Proctor says:
February 3, 2011 at 8:41 am

Fine summary of data significance, etc. I’ve saved the entire thing for future reference.
Thanks.
___
As for Juraj V.’s opening shot, it was an IQ test. Those who appreciate the obvious sarcasm get a pass. Everyone else … I extend my sympathy. But will henceforth ignore your opinions.

Al Gored
February 3, 2011 12:22 pm

TC in the OC says:
February 3, 2011 at 11:42 am
“Also I haven’t seen anyone mention the article by Stephanie Pappas Live Science where she gets Michael Mann to say that this storm is the result of global warming and that we should expect more like this.”
Thanks for that link. This first sentence plus pretty much sums up the talking points:
“No single weather event can be directly attributed to climate change. But…”
P.S. I once had a 1970 Bronco too, and I think you are right about the identity of the vehicle in the photo.

Kitefreak
February 3, 2011 12:22 pm

The photo’s of Chicago now and then are great documentary evidence.
And I loved the old Movietone footage of winter 62/63 in the UK (I was born that year) posted on an earlier thread.
This whole “cold is the new warm” thing is getting a bit silly really. Talk about contortions! Orwell warned us all about all of this years ago; he knew what he was talking about.
“Cold is warm”, “war is peace”. Two and two make four but they can also make five. Easy when you sit in front of the TV for 3-4 hours per day, getting brainwashed to Falkirk.
The idea that there is an imminent victory for the skeptics is – I believe – optimistic at best.
Orwell said “if you want an image of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face, for ever”.
But, as an individual human being with no political of religious affiliation, I would say that people can, working together, change things for the better on a large scale.
If Orwell’s warnings are heeded, then his prediction above can be avoided.

DesertYote
February 3, 2011 1:17 pm

In ’67 I was a little boy living in a Chicago suburb. Our house was mostly buried. My dad lifted my brother and I out the top of the only clear window so that we could clear the front door. My dad, brother and I then spent the morning helping neighbors dig out. It was great fun. We moved to Phoenix that summer for some reason.

erik sloneker
February 3, 2011 1:20 pm

I’ve got 12 inches here in Central Illinois. There’s also a lot of snow on the ground 🙂

Dave Bob
February 3, 2011 1:32 pm

Olen said:
“Great pictures. Google New York blizzard 1888 shows pictures indicating it was just as bad and maybe worse.”
Warning! Entering sarcasm zone…
But clearly global warming has made things vastly worse since then–just compare the number of automobiles stuck in snowdrifts in 1888 vs 2011!

February 3, 2011 1:37 pm

Did any of the models predict the change from global warming to climate change?

Baa Humbug
February 3, 2011 1:53 pm

We’re told these (in)famous Global Circulation Models hindcast global climate very very well. This was their validation I believe.
In the spirit of challenges being thrown down (Hi Roy) I challenge anyone to produce a GCM that hindcast the 1967 snow storms, or the 1974 Brisbane floods and TC Tracey.

Richard Keen
February 3, 2011 1:58 pm

Jimmy Haigh says:
“Did any of the models predict the change from global warming to climate change?”
No, but they nailed the “global climate disruption”.

February 3, 2011 2:31 pm

Al Gore saying that this snowstorm was “consistent with” global warming
Of course it is !!! EVERYTHING is consistent with global warming !!! You know what you are if you think otherwise !!!
/sarc
PG-13: Contains shouting and repeated bangs. May contain traces of nuts.

Tenuc
February 3, 2011 3:33 pm

…Just love it when Earth climate sits up and clouts the useless IPCC climate cabal across the face :-))
This winter and the doctored ‘warmest year ever’ data will be the final nail in the coffin of the CAGW scam and the more they try to deny the truth, the less even their die-hard hard ‘green’ supporters will believe them!

Theo Goodwin
February 3, 2011 5:33 pm

Americans are suffering from some serious memory problems. Maybe most of us are recently arrived illegal immigrants. Who knows?
Anyway, the blizzard of 2011 and that of 1967 are not that big a deal. I won’t take the time to remind you of ’76-79. Let me take 1982 in St. Louis. On February 28, 1982, I arrived home in a heavy snowfall. To get home, I had to park in what remained of a municipal parking lot about three blocks from my fashionably downtown apartment. In the parking lot, I was parking on top of maybe two inches of snow and next to a mountain of snow that filled the central lanes of the parking lot. In other words, a mountain of snow about 12 feet tall extended from one end of the rectangular public to the other, a distance of about 65 yards. That night another 18 inches was added. (The mountain of snow was created by city workers using front-end loaders over the preceding two months.) None of us thought any of this was extraordinary. And it wasn’t. What we have today is not extraordinary. No one would think it is except for the constant drumming of the media shouting that each weather event is UNPRECEDENTED. If this continues much longer, our children are going to be idiots, having no true beliefs about nature. Most people will tell you that annual summer heat is extraordinary. It is not. It is just the constant media drumbeat. What slime they are. (Maybe Trenberth and those guys who are trying to reverse the burden of proof are just victims of the media, thinking that all weather is now extraordinary.)

February 3, 2011 6:17 pm

Speaking here as a survivor of the ’67 Blizzard, where just outside Battle Creek I witnessed first hand _their_ recorded 28 inches of the ‘white stuff’ … I had never before seen whole cars buried in drifts nor drifts extending up to rooftops …
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February 3, 2011 6:51 pm

Also – RADAR in Central Texas is now showing the snow prog’d to dump 1 to 3 inches on Texas again …
.

rbateman
February 3, 2011 7:53 pm

Global Warming causes unpreparedness for the advent of reality.
The reality is that the heat of the Planet is escaping out the poles.
Man has nothing at all to do with Global Warming, which has passed, except to prepare for the fall of Global temps.
And no, AGW did NOT predict these falling global temps until reality hit them in the face too.
And you can say that Global Cooling caused AGW to remake it’s sales pitch.
It’s still a highly backpeddled Lemon.

Maverick
February 3, 2011 8:03 pm

D Patterson. Thanks for the list. I lived in Chicago from ’98 to ’02, and I vividly remember the New Year’s day snow in ’99. I don’t know what the fuss is about. Snow, in Chicago, in winter? Hell yes!

Rhoda R
February 3, 2011 8:19 pm

The Weather Channel is talking about ‘historic’ snowfall. And they wonder why people stop hearing them.

rblackbird
February 3, 2011 9:32 pm

Back in the day, “global warming” meant…warming. It is amazing what people believed back then. Luckily, our science has progressed to the point that we now understand that global warming is actually the cause of cooling. Isn’t science great!

Steve from rockwood
February 3, 2011 9:46 pm

Jurag’s post was accurately summed up by maggieblanco (if that is your real name).
And I don’t get the Bush thing. It was his fault.
Gore to Clinton “yes I did smoke pot but I never exhaled”.
Never mind. It’s a CO2 joke.
Sarc $?
Crap I hate these ipads

February 4, 2011 5:55 am

… and then, there were six more inches of snow on our ground; that’s the report out of McKinney, Texas just to my north ….
BTW, they have brought in snow plows from Amarillo to help keep the highways clear in the DFW and Arlington Texas area … witnessed them in action via CBS11 video feed off a TXDOT (Texas Dept. of Transportation) highway camera not 15 mins ago.
.

Dan Pangburn
February 4, 2011 6:40 am

From 2001 through Dec, 2010 the atmospheric CO2 increased by 21.8% of the total increase from 1800 to 2001 while the average global temperature has not increased significantly and the average of the five reporting agencies has been declining rapidly since the peak of the last El Nino in March 2010. The 21.8% CO2 increase is the significant measurement, not the comparatively brief time period.
THE FACTORS THAT RESULTED IN THE 20th CENTURY GLOBAL TEMPERATURE RUN-UP HAVE BEEN DISCOVERED.
The contribution of added atmospheric carbon dioxide is between small and insignificant. The time-integral of sunspot numbers (which correlates with the average altitude and thus average temperature of clouds) and effective sea surface temperature are the main contributors.
A simple equation, with inputs of accepted measurements from government agencies, calculates the average global temperatures since 1895 with 88% accuracy (87.6% if CO2 is assumed to have no influence). See the equation, links to the source data, an eye-opening graph of the results and how they are derived in the pdfs at http://climaterealists.com/index.php?tid=145&linkbox=true (see especially the pdfs made public on 4/10/10 and 6/27/10).
The future average global temperature trend that this equation calculates is down.

Wayne Westgate
February 4, 2011 11:32 am

Maybe the beginning of an ice age (or “little ice age”, 1650 to 1750) starts with the warming of the equatorial oceans. This might make since because to have significant ice and snow pile up in the northern hemisphere (Chicago and Great Lakes) requires large quantities of water vapor to be transported to the Polar Regions where it falls as snow. In this way global warming or equitorial warming occurs at the same time that the poles cool down.

Wrangler Wayne
February 5, 2011 6:59 am

Increased snowfall is NOT a consequence of man made global warming. It is a consequence of a natural increase in warm moist air hitting cold dry air to form snow as the dew point drops at or below the freezing point. Just as there is natural warming to put the moisture in the air, there has to be a counter balancing natural cooling event to take it out. All of this is withing the natural variability of changing global temperatures. Check out this site:
http://www.c3headlines.com/2011/01/noaa-confirms-recent-global-temperature-change-is-historically-small-warming-is-decelerating.html
The first chart depicts NOAA/NCDC dataset of the annual global temperature changes from 1880 to 2010 vs rising levels of CO2. It is obvious that these rising levels of ppm CO2 have had little to no impact on the annual global temperatures. Look at the 3d chart. Those who claim unprecedented global temperature increases in the last decade due to CO2 must be reading a page from the book of scientific stupidity.