Clueless bloggers attack Fox News for memo that says "show both sides" of the global warming/cooling story

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Joe Romm and Al Gore share one thing in common besides being paid for blogging, writing, and making opinions on climate to scare the dickens out of people: they don’t understand what journalism is supposed to be about. Not only that, Joe shows his own bias and hyprocrisy compared to how he dealt with Climategate emails a year ago:

Joe Romm at Climate Progress 11/21/2009:

Note:  No, I’m not thrilled with reprinting part of an illegally stolen e-mail, but this was in Wired and has been confirmed by the author and actually deals with the science.

Joe Romm at Climate Progress 12/15/2010:

Kudos to Media Matters for unearthing this story from the anti-earth folks at Fox News.  See also the Politico story, “Fox editor urged climate skepticism.”

He seems thrilled to publish such a “stolen email” now, when it suits his cause. And of course, he puts the Fox News email front and center, but you won’t find him doing that for any of the climategate emails, lest he scare the flock.

And here’s what he’s all bent out of shape about, this passage from the Fox News “illegally obtained” email, bold mine.

…we should refrain from asserting that the planet has warmed (or cooled) in any given period without IMMEDIATELY pointing out that such theories are based upon data that critics have called into question. It is not our place as journalists to assert such notions as facts, especially as this debate intensifies.

Gore writes on his blog today:

“Fox News has consistently delivered false and misleading information to its viewers about the climate crisis. The leaked emails now suggest that this bias comes directly from the executives responsible for their news coverage.

Heh, a year ago Gore wouldn’t even read the emails from CRU, and got caught with his foot in his mouth: Al Gore can’t tell time – thinks most recent Climategate email is more than 10 years old

Of course, there’s no mention of his movie, An Inconvenient Truth, being hauled into court in Britain and found to be “false and misleading”.

There’s also no mention of the CRU emails on Gore’s blog, the entire month of November last year, even after major media outlets such as the New York Times had reported on it. He was sure to wish everyone a “happy Thanksgiving” though. In fact it took Gore a full month, until Dec 18th, 2009 to make any mention of it at all, and then it was only a sideways glance, by reporting on a favorable story (for him) in Politico.

And let’s not forget this story, where Al locks our reporters from his presentation, and is even bold enough to put up a sign to that effect: Gore to press: Stay Out!

It seems to be a pattern with Mr. Gore: Journalists pan Gore secrecy

Neither Al or Joe seem to get what journalism is supposed to be about. Here’s a clue.

The Encyclopedia of American journalism, By Stephen L. Vaughn, page 38, says:

A “core journalistic value”.

As Lachlan Markay at Newsbusters writes:

So Sammon instructed staff to incorporate the most basic tenets of science and journalism – skepticism and political neutrality, respectively – into their reporting on contentious scientific issues with tremendous political implications. And this is a problem?

Only if you are MediaMatters, Joe Romm, or Al Gore.

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If you want some fun go read the comments at Huffpo. Take extra blood-pressure meds before you start reading.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/al-gore/post_1436_b_797323.html

Curiousgeorge

Did you know that you can’t even call a good looking woman a “Fox” now without incurring the wrath of leftists? What is the world coming to?

Al Gored

Romm notes “the anti-earth folks at Fox News.”
Really. How much denser can he get?

David L

So they have a problem because they found proof that Fox executives are requiring Fox to be “fair and balanced”? And the problem is……?

latitude

and this from Gore that locks reporters out, all reporters…….

hunter

In the topsy turvy world of AGW true believers, skeptics are evil and telling both sides of a story is wickedness through and through.
Does anyone wonder why Romm is rightfully considered the biggest jerk in the blogosphere?
REPLY: Actually your comment is misplaced, I know from experience there are far worse people. – Anthony

Old England

To me this shows how scared the warmists are of what is happening and that is very encouraging.
If you object, criticise and spin against what are correct and proper editorial instructions to journalists to report objectively then in doing so, as Al Gore and Joe Romm have done, it is a tacit admission that there is much you want to hide and don’t want anyone to see.
If you have nothing to hide then you have nothing to fear – and they seem to fear simple truth and fact.

John F. Hultquist

Who’s Al Gore?

Mike Jowsey

Yeah, no way do they want fair and balanced. Hell, no. They have had it all their way with the media for decades. I expect they will tout this as an example of the “denialist misinformation campaign”.
h/t to Bill Sammon for pointing out to his team what every one of them should have already been practicing for years. I hope other media bosses are doing likewise.

Douglas DC

Okay Al, get an Interview with say, Greta Van Sustren in NYC on January 20th,
Prepare for Kennedy and LaGurardia to be shut down and the city shut due to snow….

Grant

How is a modern-day journalist supposed to report differing viewpoints on the same subject! Its just so much more efficient to stick with one view, the ‘crusade’ view— http://www.thestar.com/news/sciencetech/environment/copenhagensummit/article/735124–star-joins-global-climate-crusade

R. de Haan

What’s new? That’s how totalitarian green ideologues behave.
No debate but dictate = dictatorship
http://notrickszone.com/2010/12/14/silence-of-the-greens/

John F. Hultquist

OT but these are worth looking at:
http://www.wkyc.com/news/local/news_article.aspx?storyid=164226&catid=49
Water, winds encase Lake Erie lighthouse in ice

John Wright

I see this as sign that the CAGW scam is now going into its death throes.

pyromancer76

Anthony, thanks for the consistency and the razor wit with which you skewer all those who cannot permit scientific unknowns and scientific discussions. Our world is safer and more truthful because of your efforts. Health and best wishes to you and your family.

Lou Skannen

My comment on Climate Progress in case it gets lost:
Apparently we overlooked these “Fox” beings.
Coordinates please.
The Borg

A few days ago NPR used accurate and objective phrasing in a report on the Cancun failure. It caught my attention and switched on my mental tape-recorder because the even-handed phrase was so completely unexpected:
“…once it became clear that there would be no overarching deal to cut emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases that have been linked to global warming.”
The standard media template would have been “…gases that cause global warming.”
Will Algore now attack NPR for following Fox? I doubt it.
I don’t know why Fox gets so much static anyway. Most of its people are hard-line Greenies. Shep Smith is just as screechy as Joe Romm on the subject.

R T Barker

Fox News “endorsed” by Gore and Romm. Works for me.

pat

[snip, as much as I got a chuckle out of your labeling of the two, I’d be just as bad as they are if I allowed such an ad hominen comment – Anthony]

James F. Evans

The post sums it up well: AGW doesn’t want both sides of the story told.
Why?
Because when both sides of the story is told…AGW loses.

Frank K.

Heh. This is good, actually. Let the world see Media Matters spew its “bombshell” e-mail to show the world how totally insane the whole global warming mania has become. And there is no better person than Al “Chokra” Gore to go to bat for Media Matters [double heh]!
Meanwhile, here in western New Hampshire, it’s about 10 F with snow on the ground, and I have my CO2 belching pellet stove going full blast keeping me and my family warm. Ahhh…life is good…

tarpon

Truth, it’s what science needs these days more than anything else. And what about that old saw, seek the truth…
I guess it’s best if you start out to tell lies, you hide the truth.
Sheesh what has happened to science.

higley7

When presenting both sides of an issue and promoting impartiality and factual reporting is considered evil, what does that make the clowns who think so? They simply cannot be cast in a good light.

So since when is going to sources and uncovering and reporting the actual facts and not blatantly misleading “controversy” not objective?
If I’m reporting on a resurgence of measles must I try to achieve “balance” by reporting that “controversy exists with respect to the validity of claims that the MMR vaccine may be among the causes of autism”?
If I’m reporting on fossil remains from, say, 100,000 BCE must I report that “controversy exists with respect to the actual age of the the fossils with some citing their interpretation of evidence indicating the Earth’s age cannot be more than about 6,000 years?”
With respect to hypocrisy this characteristic does not look good on anyone. It doesn’t look good on Romm when he uncritically publishes and pushes stolen or hacked Fox News emails having bemoaned the publication of the CRU emails, nor does it look good on skeptics who ludicrously take a phrase such as “it’s a travesty that we don’t” to imply that scientists secretly know that warming has stopped and then cry when Romm takes the quote above to imply that Fox is trying to hide the fact of a warming planet.
Rob Ryan

Schadow

Reading Romm’s sputtering post on the Sammon matter is all one needs to know about the utter bankruptcy of Climate Progress as a source of science commentary. Romm, who in Alinsky-esque rants continually attacks our host and us as “anti-science” and a threat to the planet cannot stand the time-tested maxims of science never being “settled” and the fact that consensus is a non sequitur in the sphere of science investigation. He is a non-person in my book and should be ignored. Al Gore is not worthy of mention.

Pete Olson

Rob, you are hilarious.

pat

i’d feel happier if whoever is involved with the short Fox Extra reports dropped all the alarmist CAGW stories.
yesterday murdoch’s newspapers throughout australia ran with the alarmist coastal maps story, yet today we have ABC including mention of the disclaimer which was not referred to yesterday:
16 Dec: ABC: Council rejects rising sea level forecast
“They’re using all sorts of assumptions that aren’t necessarily accurate in the local conditions.”
Cr Young says council will be releasing more accurate maps early next year.
“I’m concerned that people might take these maps as being really accurate – they’re clearly not,” he said.
“I’d encourage people to give consideration to the disclaimer that precedes the maps – it basically says, ‘don’t rely on these’.”…
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/12/16/3094581.htm
anthony, start packing!
15 Dec: Mercury News: Dana Hull: California to adopt ‘cap and trade’ to combat climate change
Taking the lead where Washington has wavered, California on Thursday is expected to adopt the nation’s most ambitious plan yet to curb global warming…
http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_16868556?nclick_check=1

Media Matters, Al Gore and Joe Romm all have one thing in common: George Soros.
If Romm wasn’t bought and paid for, and kept on the Soros leash payroll, he would be nothing.
Same with Media Matters – a 100% Soros-funded propaganda organization.
Al Gore is a little different. He’s part of Big Tobacco, and was Vice-President, and the Democrat nominee who ran against G.W. Bush – and lost what should have been a sure thing: with great name recognition, and a great economy, how could he possibly lose?? Well, for one thing, he couldn’t even carry his home state. Gore is a real Bozo, doubled and squared.
So Albert made globaloney his fallback position. Lucrative for Gore – but at everyone else’s expense. Just like his tobacco farming.

Justa Joe

To paraphrase Steve Schneider I can’t accept the validity of redacted memos leaked by people whose values I don’t trust.

chip

“…we should refrain from asserting that the planet has warmed (or cooled) in any given period without IMMEDIATELY pointing out that such theories are based upon data that critics have called into question. ”
Even Phil Jones says the earth hasn’t warmed recently, so the fact that Fox wants to treat assertions of warming with caution is eminently reasonable.
“It is not our place as journalists to assert such notions as facts, especially as this debate intensifies.”
And this is controversial because …?
Sorry, if the AGW movement is getting enervated over this there is something seriously wrong with their reasoning skills.

When it comes to good reporting, more people trust FoxNews than any other media. That surely does not mean most people are stupid!
Bill Sammon is fair and balanced, I think.

P Walker

A former Enron employee’s view on Romm :
http://masterresource.org/category/romm-versus-0bradley-enron/

JRR Canada

Who is Joe Romm?

Pamela Gray

I have issues with all the networks. Every reporter these days is just a talking head spewing his or her spin on the news. No one just reports the news. I prefer the dry old, “he said this, she said that” style of boring background sitting at a table reporting. News men and women these days seem to consider themselves to be the expert on everything they report. Even the balanced reporters have to add their two cents worth. Just report the fricken news. STOP EDITORIALIZING!

Capn Jack Walker

Oops some one needs a good old pull on some of Granpas, sipping cough mixture, arthtritis and gout remedy. It’s even been known to fuel the Model T at times.
Aaargh.

Capn Jack Walker

Did you know that Al Baby was shining for a while, his stuff was called Silent Spring, him and Mammy Sue, got the recipe from a book.
People are now so scared of it they won’t even use it fer paint stripping.

Capn Jack Walker

Yer I know, Back in yer box Jack.

Tim

Will anyone be closely following Sammon’s future career path and good health? I hope they will be.

Doug Janeway

Romm is a warmerholic. He can’t put it down. He’s deliriously intoxicated with bias and hypocrisy.

juanslayton

Pamela Gray:
I prefer the dry old, “he said this, she said that” style of boring background sitting at a table reporting.
Pamela, I’m with you on this. Up to here with chit-chat news.

dragineez

polistra says:
December 15, 2010 at 6:02 pm
Don’t hold your breath on NPR being either fair or balanced – on anything – any time soon. I’m sure the phrasing you heard was just an aberration. I just got through hearing a report on how wonderful the health care rationing is working out in Britain. They just can’t understand why those horrible right wing rethugicans could possibly refer to such a humane redistribution of scarce health care money as a “death panel”.
The “formula” they quoted sounded an awful lot to me like the one Michael Crichton pointed out that was supposed to calculate the number of planets in the universe with intelligent life. It sounds wise on the surface but as soon as you try to actually apply it, becomes abhorrent.
NPR is an unabashed AGW alarmist cheerleader and I see no sign of that abating.

D. King

“Kudos to Media Matters for unearthing this story from the anti-earth folks at Fox News.”
Yes, kudos to Media Matters, George Soros, and all the U.S. haters.
Dis biga bombshell comrades. Soon our
plan to take over will be complete. Climate
science is linchpin to world domination.
Leader out!
What a frickin joke. LMAO

RockyRoad

Romm’s claim that “climate science” is settled is absolutely true—“climate science” is a misnomer for “wealth redistribution” that IS settled if you ask those zealots who are pushing to enforce global governance. Now, SCIENCE, on the other hand, ISN’T settled because of the nature of the beast. (These people really should hyphenate their term (climate-science) or maybe even just make a single word out of it (climatescience) so everybody understands it is an insidious political ploy masquerading behind a science banner—similar to the word “hamburger” that really has no ham in it whatsoever. Maybe they could just shorten it to “climsci” so it rolls off the tongue easier and avoids direct reference to “science” altogether, thereby minimizing the confusion.) I’ll give it a try:
To emphasize their self-righteous position as patron monarchs of climsci, I often see double emphasis used, as in this statement by Romm:

Note: No, I’m not thrilled with reprinting part of an illegally stolen e-mail…

Applying the term “illegally” to a Climategate email should be sufficient; adding “stolen” suspends a clear understanding—are we dealing with a double negative here, or are they just trying to drive home the point by tedious (and unnecessary) adjective repetition? (Since I’m not a legal scholar, perhaps there is actually such a thing as a “legally stolen” e-mail. Any suggestions from you experts in jurisprudence?)
Clearly, such obfuscation of standard English is common by those who support climsci.

JPeden

Hahaha, Fox sure knows how to attract a wider audience: leak an email stating Fox’s intent to be objective, have some of its competitors go ballistic in a public P.R. campaign, and voila! Hasn’t it been proven over and over that demonizing Fox only seems to increase its ratings? So are the CAGW Master Sargents really just trying to hold onto their crazier[?] base and reinforce its condition-response attack dog training through continued practice?

Andy Whorewhole: (SP?) —
“There is NO such thing as ‘bad publicity’..”
For FOX and other public media, this is very true.
GO FOX!
Max

Vinny

So when Al Gore goes on CBS television with Dave Letterman and says that 6 ft under the surface of the earth it’s one million degress, how do honest thinking people listen to him. He didn’t get a “D” in science for nothing.
I guess the hardest job on the planet are grave diggers, they must have special suits to stand those temperatures.

Glenn

I wonder how Gore knows that the email was “leaked”?

AntonyIndia

Indeed: was it leaked or hacked? For the CRU file dump it looks a clear case of the former, although the Norfolk police keeps mum. For this Fox mail it is not clear now.

Tucci78

At 7:17 PM on 15 December, Pamela Gray had written:

I have issues with all the networks. Every reporter these days is just a talking head spewing his or her spin on the news. No one just reports the news. I prefer the dry old, “he said this, she said that” style of boring background sitting at a table reporting. News men and women these days seem to consider themselves to be the expert on everything they report. Even the balanced reporters have to add their two cents worth. Just report the fricken news. STOP EDITORIALIZING!

It is impossible to avoid subjective bias in the reporting of any factual matter. With this understood, it should be continuously acknowledged that anybody who claims to be presenting “just the facts” without explicitly stating his prejudices is simply lying to you.
Heck, just look at all of these “nonpartisan” or “bipartisan” Web sites – like Snopes.com and the Annenberg Foundation’s FactCheck.org – which make great protestations of dispassionate objectivity but which are in fact overwhelmingly “Liberal” (i.e, progressive-socialist-fascist-leftie) in their not-so-subtle Ministry of Truth functions.
I am content if an information source states its political philosophy explicitly, and strives to keep consistency with that expressed stance. Thus I tend to rely more upon openly libertarian sites – the Cato Institute, the Ludwig von Mises Institute, Lew Rockwell’s stuff, and so forth – because I know pretty much precisely where these people are coming from and I can with reasonable reliability adjust for their predispositions.
When I’m looking at “social conservative” sources – particularly the religious whackjobs who claim (Allah spare us!) all sorts of divine inspiration and at base predicate everything on an appeal to the ineffable – the grain of salt with which their stuff must be taken exceeds the canonical 65 milligrams by four or five orders of magnitude. Conservatives are almost as bad as “Liberals.”
Not quite, by any means. But almost.

Al Gored

Vinny says:
December 15, 2010 at 9:20 pm
“So when Al Gore goes on CBS television with Dave Letterman and says that 6 ft under the surface of the earth it’s one million degress, how do honest thinking people listen to him. He didn’t get a “D” in science for nothing.”
Well, you’d be rather amazed to follow co2insanity’s advice (below) and go see all the people who actually do believe every word he says. If the Huffpo posters on that story represent ‘average’ Americans, the country is doomed. I must, must, believe that they are not.
co2insanity says:
December 15, 2010 at 4:57 pm
“If you want some fun go read the comments at Huffpo. Take extra blood-pressure meds before you start reading.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/al-gore/post_1436_b_797323.html