Al Gore can’t tell time – thinks most recent Climategate email is more than 10 years old

Al Gore apparently has no command of the most basic details of anything related to Earth and climate. His last idiotic gaff in the media was that the temperature of the Earth 2 kilometers or so down was millions of degrees!  Apparently,  Slate editors who look equally like dufuses for printing this dreck didn’t notice his latest one either. Maybe all those trips around the world in the private jet have damaged his ability to tell the time and date? Too many trip across the International Dateline perhaps?

Here’s an interview question put to him from Slate:

Q: How damaging to your argument was the disclosure of e-mails from the Climate Research Unit at East Anglia University?

A: To paraphrase Shakespeare, it’s sound and fury signifying nothing. I haven’t read all the e-mails, but the most recent one is more than 10 years old. These private exchanges between these scientists do not in any way cause any question about the scientific consensus. But the noise machine built by the climate deniers often seizes on what they can blow out of proportion, so they’ve thought this is a bigger deal than it is.

But wait there’s more…

Q: There is a sense in these e-mails, though, that data was hidden and hoarded, which is the opposite of the case you make [in your book] about having an open and fair debate.

A: I think it’s been taken wildly out of context. The discussion you’re referring to was about two papers that two of these scientists felt shouldn’t be accepted as part of the IPCC report. Both of them, in fact, were included, referenced, and discussed. So an e-mail exchange more than 10 years ago including somebody’s opinion that a particular study isn’t any good is one thing, but the fact that the study ended up being included and discussed anyway is a more powerful comment on what the result of the scientific process really is.

These people are examining what they can or should do to deal with the P.R. dimensions of this, but where the scientific consensus is concerned, it’s completely unchanged. What we’re seeing is a set of changes worldwide that just make this discussion over 10-year-old e-mails kind of silly.

Earth to Al, Earth to Al, come in Al.

Despite the fact that some of the 10 year old emails discussed important issues like the 2001 IPCC report and what made it into it…the most recent emails in Climategate were from November 2009. Last month,  this year, earth time.

For example, here’s one from November 12th from Phil Jones:

click image to see source email

And there are dozens to hundreds more within the last month, the last year, and the last 10 years.

Search for yourself here: http://eastangliaemails.com

Jeeez!! Gore. What a vacuous nimrod, and people pay to listen to him.

h/t to WUWT reader debreuil”


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218 Responses to Al Gore can’t tell time – thinks most recent Climategate email is more than 10 years old

  1. Lesley says:

    Has anyone asked him how he feels about Professor Jaap
    Sinninghe Damste findings that “the melting and freezing of moisture on top of Kilimanjaro appears to
    be part of “a natural process of dry and wet periods.” The present
    melting is not the result of “environmental damage caused by man.”

    I would love to guage his reaction.

  2. Dr Slop says:

    He also doesn’t know the difference between “paraphrase” and “quote”.

  3. Daryl M says:

    It’s shocking to see what a pathological liar Al Gore is.

  4. Bill says:

    At a certain point ignorance and malice will intersect.

  5. Craig Doriot says:

    email is kind of tricky. What would you expect from the father of the internet?

  6. Espen says:

    He needs to fire the secretary that reads the news for him.

  7. Mailman says:

    Problem is, when the hell are we going to get to that point? I see on the BBC this morning a news clippet about the UN sending a letter of support to UEA FFS!

    These guys are all so corrupt it’s not funny.

    Mailman

  8. John J. says:

    Well, his global warming data is ten years old and ten years ago he was running for president and life was good; maybe he’s in denial about the 2000 election?

    Al Gore – the man that time forgot…or vice versa.

  9. Daphne says:

    What Al really said, unedited:

    “I haven’t read all the e-mails, but [I read one or two of them. And] the most recent one [I read] is more than 10 years old.”

    I don’t think he got any farther than the “hide the decline” email.

    Aren’t you glad this guy was never president?

  10. Mark says:

    Come on guys, man bear pig is real, he`s super cereal here :)

  11. Kaboom says:

    President Gore (well, almost, it was stolen by hanging chads and butterfly ballots) will be remembered as the prophet of our new austerity.

    All of you who maintain the temerity to undermine the Prophet Gore’s proclamations take heed: Nowhere is a safe-haven, and all of your e-mails are easily retrieved for future reference. As we have indeed seen recently, courtesy of hackers paid by the Russian secret service.

    Denialism requires re-education. Work will make you free!

    These appalling attacks upon Prophet Gore must cease, forthwith.

  12. debreuil says:

    Oh wait, I’ve just done a little math. He says the last email is 10 years old, but it is from Nov. 12. That is about 25 and a bit days ago. So he is out by a factor of:

    (365 * 10) / 25 = 146

    Later he says the northern ice cap has been the same size for 3 million years. Well it happens many of us were under a couple of miles of northern ice cap ice about 20,000 years ago. So there he is out by a factor of

    3,000,000 / 20,000 = 150

    So it seems that Al Gore isn’t lying or even wrong, he’s just quite slow. In fact his internal clock must be running about 150 times slower than normal.

    Hmm, that may explain why his many predictions are so far off as well.

  13. Richard deSous says:

    Gore typifies the rich kid who never broke a sweat in class and always had his daddy cover his axx. His ignorance is now his greatest embarrassment.

  14. Hasse@Norway says:

    WHAT!!! 10 years ago Al Gore had barely invented the internet!!

  15. Leon Brozyna says:

    Al Gore —

    failed divinity student
    failed politician
    failed science promoter

    To commemerate his failures I’ve bought a brand-new shovel [I got a cheapy last year and it didn't bear up well - this new model is more robust] and named it “Al Gore”. I expect this newest version will bear up well here in Buffalo, shoveling all this global warming of his.

  16. Ecotretas says:

    Looks like he is being abandoned. And he has to catch up all by himself. Nothing can match this distributed group that WUWT is!
    And he was vice president 12 years ago???
    It makes me wonder!
    Ecotretas

  17. PhilW says:

    If you a complaint against the BBC take a look here…

    http://www.tpuc.org/stoppayingtvlicencefees

  18. Onion says:

    Daryl M (22:59:52) :
    “It’s shocking to see what a pathological liar Al Gore is.”

    Really?!

    This is the guy who invented the internet remember

  19. Will says:

    A Christmas theme song. What Al Gore will give us for Christmas.

  20. Frank Tortuga says:

    Once again, you guys are making a mountain out of a molehill.

    “10 years ago” was the value added adjusted date of the emails. Apparently the mail server was using tree ring data to time stamp the emails. This is all a result of the divergence problem, which has already been well publicized in the past. Nice try though.

  21. Kath says:

    With apologies to the all-seeing, all-knowing, internet inventin’ Goracle.. but whenever I see his name, an image of a Bull runs through my mind.

  22. John of Cloverdale, West Australia says:

    Al fails again, like, divinity, law and science. But keeps his title as the century’s biggest con-man, loved by the media, school teachers and kindergarten students for trying to save those drowning polar bears.

  23. E.M.Smith says:

    This is the classic problem of a person surrounded by flappers and sycophants who has no personal touch with reality. Like when Bush Senior first saw a price scanner and it was in the news that he was a bit clueless about everyday life. When someone else buys all your food for you, you lose touch with ‘food store reality” and when someone else buys your thoughts for you …

    So yeah, Mr. Talking Head had a flapper load the daily talking points memo from the PR team (who likely didn’t read anything themselves either, having gotten a warped version from their executive assistants who got it from their aids…) and it got a bit garbled in the upload…

    But hey, at least he doesn’t have to depend on a teleprompter… or maybe he is reaching That Age where he does need one…

    It doesn’t really matter anyway, tomorrow is another day and a new talking points briefing and another paid luncheon and it’s all about seeing and being seen and only underlings and gophers deal with real facts anyway and he’ll be in a nice suit and talking to the next media Talking Head exchanging the days bee-bread for Royal Jelly…

    I could never live like that.

  24. photon without a Higgs says:

    When you’re a poet who can keep track of time?

    Actual Al Gore poems:
    .
    One thin September soon
    A floating continent disappears
    In midnight sun

    Vapors rise as
    Fever settles on an acid sea
    .
    Snow glides from the mountain
    Ice fathers floods for a season
    A hard rain comes quickly

    Then dirt is parched
    Kindling is placed in the forest
    For the lightning’s celebration
    .
    The shepherd cries
    The hour of choosing has arrived
    Here are your tools
    .

    http://www.vanityfair.com/online/politics/2009/12/al-gore-the-poet-laureate-of-climate-change.html

    “The result is a surprisingly accomplished, nuanced piece of writing. The images Gore conjures in his (untitled) poem turn a neat trick: they are visually specific and emotionally arresting even as they are scientifically accurate.”

    Nah, it’s just gumpy.

    ——————————————–

    (Al Gore is my shepherd….)

  25. DJ Meredith says:

    Just tonight on CBS we heard Katie Couric stating that this last decade was the warmest on record. It doesn’t matter that the record is false if 51% of the voters believe it.

    Until we can get the public to recognize Gore for what he is, he’ll continue to get his picture on the cover of Time Magazine, instead of Mad Magazine, where it belongs.

  26. David Harrington says:

    I used to wonder when my American friends would take me aside and speak to me confidentially saying “You guys know that Al Gore is an idiot don’t you?”. Like someone taking you aside as you are about to part with your hard earned money for some “snake oil” cure all remedy.

    Well now I really do get it. He seems to have a spring loaded mechanism that rams his foot into his mouth whenever he speaks.

  27. Nigel S says:

    Nimrod was a mighty hunter before the Lord. I don’t think you should liken MBP to him.

  28. Phillip Bratby says:

    Al Gore also said “The entire North Polar ice cap is disappearing before our very eyes. It’s been the size of the continental United States for the last 3 million years”. Such a deep knowledge he has of what it was like before the Holocene!

  29. Charles. U. Farley says:

    The fact that he wont discuss anything with anyone without all questions being pre checked shows one thing- You aint no Man Al.

  30. tallbloke says:

    This probably explains why Al thinks the temperature is still rising. His internet connection has a 10 year latency.

  31. Methow Ken says:

    To people flying around up in the stratosphere (both literally and figuratively) divorced from any semblence of association with objective science, what’s a couple million degrees one way or the other. . .

    And consider this: What level and weight of hard scientific evidence do y’all think would be required; before Gore and the AGW ”true believers” would be willing to stand up and admit they were wrong ?? . .
    That’s right:

    Just like the Inquisition convicted Galileo of heresy for saying that the earth went around the sun instead of the other way around, EVEN THOUGH other astronomers independently confirmed Galileo’s hard observational facts:
    Vast hoardes of starry-eyed AGW lemmings are probably beyond reach.
    One can only hope there are still enough people in the ”sensible center” to carry the day in the end. Otherwise it’s turn out the lights; the party’s over; and it’s back to the dark ages. . . .

  32. Michael says:

    Al Gore thinks we were born yesterday. Putz

  33. asmilwho says:

    I just posted to the Slate website regarding Mr Gore’s factual innaccuracies, I suggest others do the same.

    These issues need to be raised not only here or on other sceptic websites but also in the MSM websites as well – otherwise Joe and Jo-anne Public don’t get to hear about it.

  34. durox says:

    Here we go: “Al Gore answers your climate change questions

    http://amfix.blogs.cnn.com/2009/12/08/al-gore-answers-your-climate-change-questions/

    visit the page, and send in your questions! He’s there in the morning of Wednesday (Dec 9th)

  35. Jason says:

    Ha ha,

    quick pay no attention what we need now is a story about how global warming gave tiger wood’s second cousin an ear ache and tummy upset before we have to report any real news!!

  36. Bill Tuttle says:

    Bill (23:03:38) :
    At a certain point ignorance and malice will intersect.

    That’s the space-time discontinuity which enables Gore to intrude into our universe from his own.

  37. Michael says:

    Can you imagine all the reporters, journalists and writers who work for CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS and the BBC who are forbidden to write a story about Climategete at the threat of being fired by their bosses? I can imagine many of them just itching to write about about a climategate story if their bosses would just only let them. Must stink to work for those companies.

  38. Barry Foster says:

    Al Gore ‘quoted’ from Macbeth, not paraphrased it! The man’s an idiot.

  39. Hoi Polloi says:

    Gore is not dumb, he’s just a lying cheat, worried that his empire of the carbon knights is crumbling down.

  40. PC says:

    It’s time Gore was sued and made to prove his assertions on climate change in a court of law.

    Perhaps a class action on behalf of all the kids who have nightmares about global warning?

    I hate to think this man will get away with his ill-gotten gains.

  41. harpo says:

    Al Gore knows that his followers are sheep. If he says that the latest email is more than 10 years old they will believe him. None of them will check because they are believers not sceptics (skeptics) whatever….

    Down in Oz, Australian of the year, Tim Flannery, Climate Alarmist No.1 did this calculation in an article in a leading Alarmist newspaper (The Melbourne Age). Flannery claims to be a scientist. Of what, I don’t know.

    Paraphrasing…..
    Average global temperature in 1900 was 15C. Now it’s 20C. That’s a 25% increase in temperature!

    Check…. (unless it has been modified by the Age… which has been know to happen when they get caught out… in that case I kept a PDF as evidence)

    http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/politics/climate-sceptics-and-the-liberals-negotiating-in-bad-faith-20091203-k8pr.html

    An economist, Terry McCrannt pointed out that its actually (based on Flannery’s figures) a 33% increase. He went on to say that if Flannery can’t undertake that basic calculation why should we believe anything he says.

    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/business/terry-mccranns-column/climate-hysteria-just-warming-up/story-e6frfig6-1225808076539

    Now for the interesting bit. McCrannt received dozens of emails pointing out another dishonest part of Flannery’s calculation. Why didn’t he use the Kelvin scale? (I know this because I wrote to McCrannt and he replied to me)

    In that case the numbers are (roughly) 288K in 1900 and 293K now. That leads to 5/288 = 1.7%

    I noticed two things (apart from Flannery’s rubbery figures)

    1. His supporters immediately rallied to his defence and went on to rail against these evil, extermist deniers. How could they question the Australian of the year regardless of the fact that he can’t do a basic calculation.

    2. Nobody cared about the fundemental issue about the Kelvin scale.

    But…. here is the kicker in my mind (as well as a whole lot of other people)

    According to the Warmers, variability in Solar output is only 0.1%

    Temperature increase over the past 100 years is around 0.5K (shoot me if I’m wrong… It’s a rough estimate)

    -> 0.5K/288K = 0.18%

    Clearly orders of magnitude greater than the Solar variation!… Oh…hang on!?!

    I understand that this is a super rough model but perhaps this could be explored by somebody who has a better understanding of thermodynamics than I do. (Maybe it already has been).

    P.S. if I’ve messed up a calculation I will never claim to be Australian of the year and I would welcome anybody setting me straight.

  42. arthur clapham says:

    I believe whitewash supplies have now fallen to critical levels, has Al invested some of his ill gotten gains in whitewash futures!!!.

  43. Brian Johnson uk says:

    Non resident question……
    8 or so years ago when the Chadgate election drama was unfolding, if Bush had lost, would Al Gore have become President of the United States?

    Wow! So close!

    Be thankful for small mercies!

    Far away in the Surrey Hills……..

  44. Joanie says:

    Al Gore, the man of infinite talent, obviously lives in the future… it’s 2019 for him. Which tells us several things:
    1. The Mayan Armageddon of 2012 is not going to happen. We’re good on that one. Won’t we all breathe a sigh of relief!

    2. Unfortunately, while the Mayans forecast didn’t come true, apparently the center of the earth in 2019 has attained several million degrees… so it’s getting a bit toasty around those geothermal generation plants. Oh, and the bottom of the Grand Canyon is kinda molten… but it’s pretty at night with the lava and all.

    3. Al is running his house on that free energy that the oil companies bought the patents to, and hid. Which means that in the next ten years we can generate electricity in our basements, apparently out of wishful thinking and maybe cat poop. So we should stop criticizing him for his extra large carbon footprint… he isn’t really making one, but he just can’t tell us because the technology is in our future. And if he told us how to do it, the Large Hadron Collider would implode and …. ummm….

    Never mind, he’s just not very bright.

  45. Thomas J. Arnold. says:

    It is and has been clear to me and to most of the readers of this blog that the mind of Mr. Al Gore has turned to mush.
    I think he has now taken leave of his senses, reality is now a distant concept to Mr. Al Gore, like many of the Copenhagen delegates.
    Latest off the press, from the Met Office, 2009 warmest year since time (er no for 160yrs) began!!! – whatever – anything for a headline and the bunfight in Denmark goes on………….
    But what about El nino?
    We’ve been here before I guess, anyhow must be correct because their mates at the CRU says so.

  46. Plato Says says:

    And something to make you laugh – the excellent MATT cartoon from the Telegraph

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/matt/?cartoon=6737442&cc=6695729

  47. Jack Simmons says:

    There are a lot of things he hasn’t read.

  48. Donald (Australia) says:

    How much longer can this guy roam around spruiking his nonsense before he gets locked up?

    There must be some very nervous GIM investors following his meanderings and drivel at the moment. I read that the Church of England had recently placed 150 million GBP into GIM’s safe-keeping. What are they expecting? Whose idea was that?

  49. Glenn says:

    This stuff actually scares me, because Joe Public still thinks Al is the Oracle. If Al says the most recent e-mail is ten years old and it’s irrelevant because the research that was potentially going to be excluded was included, Joe Public swallows this more easily than if any other stiff said it. It’s disgusting, but true. It simply makes the effort required to refute his rubbish that much more strenuous, and I’m sure he knows this … which just demonstrates what a partisan wanker he is.

  50. inversesquare says:

    The sad thing about all this is that eventually, people will wake up and realize that they haven’t been duped this bad in a LOOOOOOOOOONG time.

    When they do, Science, the media and Politics will drift below car salesman in terms of trust and credibility.

    Now, the media and politics….yeah whatever…..democracy needs to get back to an honest place and most people I feel sure will have that constant inkling of doubt and skepticism to varying degrees.

    Science, now that really makes me sad. I grew up with people like Magnis Pike telling me the reason why it’s easier to pull a grass roller than push it (I didn’t realize till 5th form that I’d learned all about vectors by watching ‘don’t ask me’ from the age of 5)

    That is what science is supposed to be…. people who care about truth ….. that’s what science is supposed to be!!

    To see it go down in flames for political reasons, now that is what these people will need to go on trial for when this is all over.

    The heart of science is truth and the human spirit

    I’m glad there are places like this on the net

    Thankyou

  51. Rev. Dr. E. Buzz Miller says:

    Oh, I think Al knows they are recent, he mention 10 years a bunch of times.

    Al is a pretty good propagandist, repeat repeat repeat, at least when he’s with quislings that help him out.

  52. David Alan says:

    Al Gore is a buffoon.

    The more I read about him, the less I think he’s intelligent and the more I think he’s a puppet. All anyone need do is pull the little string in his back and watch him recite from his vague and somewhat cloudy mind. Which of course concerns me. If he’s not in control of his faculties, who is?

    Also, I think it is just pure coincidence that he was able to separate himself from Copenhagen. Or is it that rats are the first to know when a ship is sinking. We will never know.

    I had even held this small belief, that Al Gore was some kind of mastermind behind the creation of Global Warming. I am having to rethink that logic.
    There is no way he is smart enough to pull off a 20-plus year crusade to hide the decline and manufacture data to support AGW. He’s just too stupid.

    I guess I’ll have to look for the real villain behind the man bear pig we have all come to despise.

  53. Vincent says:

    “The result is a surprisingly accomplished, nuanced piece of writing. The images Gore conjures in his (untitled) poem turn a neat trick: they are visually specific and emotionally arresting”

    The poem reads like it has been written by a computer – a series of words chosen randomly then parsed for rhyme and rythm. I assume the critic knew who the poet was before making his comments.

    There was once a case where someone trained a monkey to paint. The result was a kind of abstract art in the extreme, which elicited exuberant praise from the art critics. Using their highly trained artiistic knowledge they were able to tell the audience how skillfully the artist used light, colour and form to bring a deeper understanding to the subject matter in hand.

    I am not trying to compare Al Gore with a monkey however. Just sayin’.

  54. durox says:

    here’s my question for mr al gore:
    CDIAC reports that the CO2 emissions have increased in the last years. The Global temperatures according to CRU have decreased in the last years. Please explain it … I made a graph, and you can see the data/numbers in there: http://durox.wordpress.com/2009/12/09/al-gore-answers-your-climate-change-questions-cnn-am/

  55. Sid says:

    The Real issue here is not what Al Gore remembers or what those emails contain ( i think they have been quoted way out of context). we have to analyze whether climate change is real and even more than that whether renewable energy and efficient use of energy is the way forward. i personally think that it is the way forward. i also think that if oil was still continuing its upward climb like last year most people would have been taking renewable energy far more seriously. A nice view of the same can be read here http://www.green-global.net/blog.aspx

  56. Plato Says says:

    I came across an interesting piece in the Irish Times and the author [who's been around the block for a long time] said it was well known what a venal, nasty clique the CRU are:

    He takes a terrible kicking in the comments [things seem to have really changed - any MSM trying to keep the AGW idea alive is drowned in criticism].

    “Insiders have long known that some CRU staff were venal, secretive, and sloppy environmentalists.” said the author – pretty strong stuff.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2009/1207/1224260240126.html

  57. harpo says:

    Vincent…

    This actually happened in Australia

    http://www.ernmalley.com/

    Humans are much better monkeys than monkeys are.

  58. Dave UK says:

    A simple mistake for a man who has his ‘Mind on the money and the money on his mind’.

  59. Patrick Davis says:

    “David Alan (03:02:05) :

    Al Gore is a buffoon.”

    That is true however, he has the ear of the stupid and our “leaders” (The terms stupid and “leaders” are interchangeable IMO), unfortunately.

  60. DaveE says:

    David Alan (03:02:05) :

    Therein lies Als brilliance!

    Seeing the wheels falling off the wagon, he’s now portraying himself as some kind of moron who could never have thought this up for himself.

    Classic misdirection, you’re now looking for another mastermind ;-)

    DaveE.

  61. If your reputation and livelihood depends on the facts of climate change do you not think you should actually know the facts. He routinely utters complete gibberish and falsehoods and is rarely taken to task on them and when he is regardless of the outcome claims he won.

    Al Gore is The Court Fool who fancied himself a King.

  62. Neil Craig says:

    Letter to Time – might as well put it here since I very much doubt if Time possess enough integrity yo publish:

    “You recently reported Al Gore saying that the climategate emails didn’t matter because “the most recent one is more than 10 years old”. I realise that numerical accuracy is not a strong point with true believers but I feel entitled to ask you to accept that among the emails leaked is one from Professor Jones saying that they would not answer an email question from me because I was a “prat” (its ok I hold a considerably lower opinion of him). My email was dated 3rd October this year & he decided not to reply on the 5th. Even in Goreland that is not 10 years ago. “

  63. Rev. Dr. E. Buzz Miller says:

    When you teach students thre is no truth, only rebellion and change and justice, then what are facts are inconveniences and, like, hard and stuff.

    Everyone wants to feel good about themselves.

  64. Back2Bat says:

    Al, poor Al,
    his bet on the future;
    looks like it’s turned sour.
    Did he not learn
    (in Divinity School)
    the future is His,
    not his, to rule?

  65. Sean Peake says:

    I will resist. Saying something about Gore and his comments is like kicking puppies. It’s too easy and morally wrong to tease someone so obviously challenged

  66. dfbaskwill says:

    $1200 a plate to meet the originator of the internet, the scourge of the cigarette industry and the savior of Gaia! What a bargain. In fact, the internet did fine without him, his family became rich from tobacco, and he’s a billionaire selling indulgences in artificial carbon credits. How backward can the world be? All from a man with an IQ rivaling several of my dogs and cats (added together).

  67. Ursus maritimus says:

    Gore poetry posters:
    Kate at smalldeadanimals.com has caught the poetic, and she is running a Gore poetry contest.
    Humbly, I submit my haiku for your withering literary analysis:

    Early autumn snows
    Gore cyclones counter-rotate
    Mercury falling

    :)

  68. Neo says:

    You completely missed Al’s point .. you see Al Gore lives in the future .. sometime around 2019.

  69. Dave says:

    Do burning pants contribute to global warming?

  70. bradley13 says:

    The point is: lots of people will believe Gore. If he says the mails are old and irrelevant, they will not look farther. Why did the interviewer not call him on this? Is the interviewer that unprepared? Or was this a rigged stage?

  71. hunter says:

    He invented the internet, and the Earth is millions of degrees inside.
    And the Earth has a fever.
    And the science settled: Gore should change his name to Goreon.

  72. Neo says:

    Hey, with Al Gore living 10 years into the future, even if Global Warming is ever proven true, we have another 10 years before the window closes.

  73. ShrNfr says:

    @harpo Intelligence is one of the things that is Rankin last with the Gore crowd. For 2 points why is 0 degrees F at the temperature assigned to it?

  74. cba says:


    Brian Johnson uk (02:04:56) :

    Non resident question……
    8 or so years ago when the Chadgate election drama was unfolding, if Bush had lost, would Al Gore have become President of the United States?

    Wow! So close!

    Be thankful for small mercies!

    Far away in the Surrey Hills……..

    hate to bust your bubble there but your respite was only temporary. Yes algore would have become president if he’d won and I doubt we could even imagine the negative consequences from that. The bad news is we won’t have to imagine anymore.

  75. Ian L. McQueen says:

    It looks like Al lives in a parallel universe. Or perhaps in his private bubble that keeps him out of contact wiht the real world. Would it be improper to call him “Bubble Boy” Gore?

    Incidentally, speaking of parallel universes, the Tuesday CBC radio program “As It Happens” included an interview with Michael Mann from 2008 in which he gives a verbal description of the hockey stick and tells how the graph describes the temperature history of the last 1000 years. I heard a repeat broadcast just as I was turning in for the night, but will be sending a caustic note very soon.

    IanM

  76. AJStrata says:

    More and more evidence is popping up that the raw temp record aligns with IPCC climate model predictions with AGW turned off.

    http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/11812

    Is it any wonder the only data record which conforms with the IPCC models when AGW is included are by those very scientists whose careers and credibility rest on AGW being proven? And those records are easily shown to diverge from reality (the raw temps).

  77. Kevin Kilty says:

    Gore has proven his qualifications as an administrator at my college.

  78. Nigel S says:

    Plato Says (02:18:08)

    Excellent cartoon as usual from Matt. This blatant propaganda is not so funny.

    http://blogs.reuters.com/photo/2009/12/08/exclusive-photos-polar-bear-turns-cannibal/

    Possible alternative ending for the grotesque COP15 introductory propaganda video;

    Toy polar bear falls into hole.
    Real polar bear sniffs and rejects it but then scents tasty quarry…

  79. Midwest Mark says:

    Mailman (23:16:23) wrote:

    “Problem is, when the hell are we going to get to that point? I see on the BBC this morning a news clippet about the UN sending a letter of support to UEA FFS!”

    And in today’s newspaper there is an article titled “UN Data Back Record Warmth.” The final paragraph of the article reads: “The past few decades are the warmest period in at least 400 years and probably 1,000 years, based on evidence from tree rings, retreating glaciers and other scientific methods to track climate before record-keeping, according to a 2006 report by the U.S. National Academy of Sciences.”

    The AGW crowd is fighting tooth and nail to drive back the forces of truth. And they must be fervently hoping and praying that no one is paying attention to the details.

    It’s enough to make your blood boil.

  80. rocwu says:

    Everyone wants to feel good about themselves.

  81. North of 43 south of 44 says:

    Kath (23:57:59) :

    With apologies to the all-seeing, all-knowing, internet inventin’ Goracle.. but whenever I see his name, an image of a Bull runs through my mind.

    ________________________________________________________________________

    What comes out of a bull maybe, but please don’t insult Bulls after all they have feelings.

  82. Pete of Perth says:

    If you were allowed to take one poetry book before being marooned on an island would you choose Al’s or a Vogon’s?

  83. Dave in Canada says:

    Does media print this on purpose just to make sure we know how ill-informed he is?

    “I haven’t read all the e-mails, but the most recent one is more than 10 years old”….Obviously this was “10 years in the future” Al Gore speaking.

  84. Norm814 says:

    This is an example of getting a big lie out first.
    People always believe the first thing they hear, then
    it is difficult to change their minds.

  85. PaulH says:

    Al Gore: Denier. ;->

  86. Ed Zuiderwijk says:

    He knows things without having read them.

    I find that funny. Our “minister for climate change” Mr Milliband is on record for saying that, although he did not understand the science, he knew that AGW/CC was real and very, very bad.

    As a curiosity: his twin brother connected to the Home Office, commented on the expulsion of Dutch politician that this was because this guy had made a very, very bad movie, which he (Milliband) had not seen himself, of course.

    It runs in families, clearly.

  87. dbv says:

    There’s a petition going to get Stephen Harper to form a commission to examine validity of Global Warming.

    http://www.gopetition.com/online/32485.html

    I signed. This is for Canadians only. Not sure whether this is on-topic.

  88. Henry chance says:

    Algore is a lawyer by education. If none of us would use him for a simple will or traffic ticket, why would they use him to read a thermometer?

  89. jryan says:

    I see Gore has UEA-CRU doing smoothing on his Climategate timeline.

  90. valiantdefender says:

    “I don’t know – not having been there and not seeing all the [made up] facts – what role [science] played in that, but I think it’s fair to say, number one, any of us [Global Warming Experts] would be pretty angry; number two that the [Global Warming Skeptics] acted stupidly in [trying to use actual data] when there was already proof that [I am a complete idiot]“

  91. Ken Hall says:

    O/T, but I look at the graph of Arctic ice extent every few days (linked from the home page) and have noticed that the Arctic ice appears to be melting as we approach the depths of winter. WUWT?

    Is there a malfunction in the measuring equipment or what?

  92. Ian L. McQueen says:

    David Alan (03:02:05) wrote: “I guess I’ll have to look for the real villain behind the man bear pig we have all come to despise.”

    May I nominate Canada’s contribution to this mess, Maurice Strong?

    IanM

  93. Mark says:

    Wasn’t it Gore who had the wrong hurricane rotation on his new book? If it was, I noticed in the Slate link that it’s been fixed.

  94. John says:

    He is trying to use a standard tactic from the playbook that was used so effectively when he was Vice President. Call a new scandal “old news” and pretend that all of the questions raised by the scandal have already been discussed, resolved, and put behind everyone. Nothing to see here. Move along. It’s all been “settled” long ago.

  95. John Galt says:

    Sid (03:16:00) :

    The Real issue here is not what Al Gore remembers or what those emails contain ( i think they have been quoted way out of context). we have to analyze whether climate change is real and even more than that whether renewable energy and efficient use of energy is the way forward. i personally think that it is the way forward. i also think that if oil was still continuing its upward climb like last year most people would have been taking renewable energy far more seriously.

    Climate change is as real as the sunrise. Climate change started as soon as the earth had a climate. Sorry, that’s not the right question — it’s a dumb question.

    The future requires more energy. Renewable energy will be part of that mix. The time to implement renewable energy is when it become economically viable and not before. As those technologies mature they will naturally be put to wider use.

    There is no need to mandate the use of more renewables and certainly no need to force out existing, practical energy sources in favor of expensive and still experimental energy sources just because you believe they are better.

  96. Pamela Gray says:

    Somebody truly needs to get on the stick and manufacture Al Gore Warming Shovels and Global Warming Blowers. This is a business opportunity that should not be missed. I think some Al Gore Warming hats and gloves would be good for Oregon too since we are having windchill factors in the minus 30 range. Minus 30 folks! That’s frostbite in 15 minutes or less!

  97. Gary says:

    Didn’t George Castanza say, “It’s not a lie if you believe it’s true.” Gore truly lives in a self-important Seinfeld world.

  98. Pamela Gray says:

    By the way, these low records for Central Oregon exceed the bottom limit of their climate zone in some areas. That means that rooted landscape plants could experience root damage or death from the hard freeze. If this continues for more years, climate zone designations could change.

  99. Mr Lynn says:

    On a cheerier note, the Washington Post has run an excellent op-ed by Sarah Palin, calling for “sound science” and for Obambi to boycott Copenhagen (no chance of that, of course):

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/08/AR2009120803402.html?referrer=emailarticle

    /Mr Lynn

  100. Roger Knights says:

    Here are a few interesting quotes from the book, The Stupidest Things Ever Said by Politicians:

    On Illegal Fund-Raisers at Buddhist Temples, Al Gore on:

    Explanation number 1: It wasn’t a fund-raiser, it was a “community outreach event.”

    Explanation number 2: It wasn’t a fund-raiser, it was just “finance-related.”

    Explanation number 3: It wasn’t a fund-raiser, it was a “donor-maintenance meeting.”

    There’s also this amusing tidbit:

    On Historical Knowledge, Vice-Presidential:

    “Who are these guys?”

    Al Gore, referring to the busts of Jefferson, Washington, Franklin, and Lafayette on a televised tour of Monticello. (p. 109)

    And this:

    “A zebra cannot change its spots.” (p. 54)

    And this:

    On Senator’s Sons, Typical Days of:

    “[My father] taught me how to clean out hog waste with a shovel and a hose. He taught me how to clear land with an ax. He taught me how to plow a steep hillside with a team of mules. He taught me how to take up hay all day long in the hot sun and then, after a dinner break, go help the neighbors take up hay before the rain came and spoiled it on the ground.”

    Vice President Al Gore on the virtues of farm life, not mentioning that, as a rich senator’s son, all this was presumably learned on summer vacation from Harvard. A real farmer’s son, Republican National chairman Jim Nicholson, replied, “Mr. Vice President, with all due respect, you’re shoveling a lot more of it right now than you ever did back then.” (p. 141)

    And this:

    On Timing is Everything:

    “[Due to pollution, cars pose] a mortal threat to the security of every nation.”

    Senator Al Gore in his 1992 book, Earth in the Balance.

    “Here in Motor City we recognize that cars have done more than fuel our commerce. Cars have freed the American spirit and given us the chance to chase our dreams.”

    Vice President Al Gore — while gearing up for his 2000 presidential run — in a 1999 speech to the Economic club of Detroit. (p. 253)

  101. Bonnie says:

    http://www.copenhagenclimatechallenge.org/

    Open Letter to Secretary-General of United Nations
    His Excellency Ban Ki Moon
    Secretary-General, United Nations
    New York, NY
    United States of America

    8 December 2009

    Dear Secretary-General,

    Climate change science is in a period of ‘negative discovery’ – the more we learn about this exceptionally complex and rapidly evolving field the more we realize how little we know. Truly, the science is NOT settled.

    Therefore, there is no sound reason to impose expensive and restrictive public policy decisions on the peoples of the Earth without first providing convincing evidence that human activities are causing dangerous climate change beyond that resulting from natural causes. Before any precipitate action is taken, we must have solid observational data demonstrating that recent changes in climate differ substantially from changes observed in the past and are well in excess of normal variations caused by solar cycles, ocean currents, changes in the Earth’s orbital parameters and other natural phenomena.

    We the undersigned, being qualified in climate-related scientific disciplines, challenge the UNFCCC and supporters of the United Nations Climate Change Conference to produce convincing OBSERVATIONAL EVIDENCE for their claims of dangerous human-caused global warming and other changes in climate. Projections of possible future scenarios from unproven computer models of climate are not acceptable substitutes for real world data obtained through unbiased and rigorous scientific investigation.

    Specifically, we challenge supporters of the hypothesis of dangerous human-caused climate change to demonstrate that:

    1.Variations in global climate in the last hundred years are significantly outside the natural range experienced in previous centuries;

    2.Humanity’s emissions of carbon dioxide and other ‘greenhouse gases’ (GHG) are having a dangerous impact on global climate;
    3.Computer-based models can meaningfully replicate the impact of all of the natural factors that may significantly influence climate;
    4.Sea levels are rising dangerously at a rate that has accelerated with increasing human GHG emissions, thereby threatening small islands and coastal communities;
    5.The incidence of malaria is increasing due to recent climate changes;
    6.Human society and natural ecosystems cannot adapt to foreseeable climate change as they have done in the past;
    7.Worldwide glacier retreat, and sea ice melting in Polar Regions , is unusual and related to increases in human GHG emissions;
    8.Polar bears and other Arctic and Antarctic wildlife are unable to adapt to anticipated local climate change effects, independent of the causes of those changes;
    9.Hurricanes, other tropical cyclones and associated extreme weather events are increasing in severity and frequency;
    10.Data recorded by ground-based stations are a reliable indicator of surface temperature trends.

    It is not the responsibility of ‘climate realist’ scientists to prove that dangerous human-caused climate change is not happening. Rather, it is those who propose that it is, and promote the allocation of massive investments to solve the supposed ‘problem’, who have the obligation to convincingly demonstrate that recent climate change is not of mostly natural origin and, if we do nothing, catastrophic change will ensue. To date, this they have utterly failed to do so.

    Signed by:

  102. TJA says:

    Sid,
    At what cost? The main reason the price of oil climbed as it did is because people with your politics are keeping American oil in the ground, and trying to do the same thing with Canadian oil. How did the Great Leap Forward” work out for the Chinese? Do you remember? Probably not, but villages attempted to melt down their hand farming implements to make modern plows. Result, mass starvation.

    And Sid, I ask this sincerely. How many times does the Left have to make the same mistake before you learn from it? Don’t you guys even have a song about it?

  103. Mark Bowlin says:

    Ursus maritimus (04:58:51). I liked your haiku. Here’s mine.

    The Goreacle lies
    But we knew that already
    As polar bears thrive

    Daryl M (22:59:52) :
    It’s shocking to see what a pathological liar Al Gore is.

    I’m afraid it’s not shocking any more…..still despicable, but the shock factor of his lies has now faded into banality.

  104. Mark Bowlin says:

    Alarming logic:

    Al Gore lying is no news.
    No news is good news.
    Therefore, Al Gore lying is good news.

  105. Rick Bradford says:

    ..sung to the sound of “San Francisco” by Scott McKenzie

    If you’re going to Copenhagen
    Be sure to wear some dollars in your hair
    If you’re going to Copenhagen
    You’re gonna meet some crooked people there

    For those who come to Copenhagen
    Wintertime will be a fraud-in there
    In the streets of Copenhagen
    crooked people with dollars in their hair

    All across the nation such a strange vibration
    People in motion
    There’s a whole generation, with a false explanation
    Misrepresentation, misrepresentation

    For those who come to Copenhagen
    Be sure to wear some dollars in your hair
    If you come to Copenhagen
    Wintertime will be a fraud-in there

    If you come to Copenhagen
    Wintertime will be a fraud-in there

  106. Bill McClure says:

    David Alan (03:02:05) :

    Al Gore is a buffoon.

    The real point is Al is a Buffoon because he chose to champion AGW in the first place.
    The whole AGW is such a house of cards. I am amazed it has managed to stay alive this long

  107. JonesII says:

    Daryl M (22:59:52) :

    It’s shocking to see what a pathological liar Al Gore is

    He is not pathological in any way. He is after his wallet. This is a too big business to lose it.
    We, who do not participate in this global swindle and who do not share their unconsciousness, should say, instead, how a bad guy he is. Obviously he is the kind of guy who can do anything, but anything!, to get one more buck.

  108. Sonicfrog says:

    I will resist. Saying something about Gore and his comments is like kicking puppies. It’s too easy and morally wrong to tease someone so obviously challenged

    Yep. Me too. Sometimes, You just have to let the easy ones go…..

  109. JonesII says:

    He invented the internet! WUWT wouldn’t even exist…
    He has a brilliant mind!
    PS.Hey Al, send me some bucks..

  110. Jeroen says:

    in de dutch newspaper he told us that he never readed the emails. he say’s the emails are irrelevant and that he did not read them.

  111. jtom says:

    Having Gore in their midst lowers both the IQ and respectability of politicians – and that ain’t easy to do.

  112. Mescalero says:

    Gore may be wrong about the dates and the temperature of the Earth’s interior, but what about the two papers he mentions that were included in the IPCC report. Does anyone know which papers are being talked about?

  113. Steven Hill says:

    Cap and Trade, United Health Care, Government Motors, One big bank….it’s all coming and will not be stopped. Satin deals in lies, not sure what everyone expects.

  114. Kate says:

    I’m a Minnesotan. I present to you a little Christmas present.

  115. photon without a Higgs says:

    he has trouble counting votes too

  116. Plato Says says:

    AJStrata (05:20:05) : I’ve twittered your piece but WordPress won’t allow me to leave a comment [weird] so apols for doing so here.

  117. lola says:

    Al Gore not only didn’t look carefully at the emails, his staff is incompetent, too. The most recent email is dated November 12, 2009. Apparently he didn’t bother to scroll down to the bottom of the page, but looked at the email on top, and assumed it was the most recent. This says a LOT about his general research method.

  118. JonesII says:

    Midwest Mark (05:41:58) :

    The AGW crowd is fighting…
    There is not such a “crowd”. If we discard the ones that are paid by their “services” and naive populace believers, we are left with just a few bankers behind, and perhaps with just one.

  119. Ursus maritimus says:

    -Mark Bowlin (06:53:30) :

    -Ursus maritimus (04:58:51). I liked your haiku. Here’s mine.

    -The Goreacle lies
    -But we knew that already
    -As polar bears thrive

    Well done!

  120. tallbloke says:

    Barry Foster (01:15:39) :

    Al Gore ‘quoted’ from MacbethThe Scottish Play, not paraphrased it! The man’s an idiot.

    Just thought I’d help you out there.

  121. Deadman says:

    I posit here that one can suppose that Gore’s poem was once less modernist. Using paleography mixed with a little dendrochronology, with a fudge factor of the number I first thought of, we can take this,

    Then dirt is parched
    Kindling is placed in the forest
    For the lightning’s celebration

    The shepherd cries
    The hour of choosing has arrived
    Here are your tools

    and turn it into:

    An old passion seeks heroes and friends who are young,

    though the bell of the city bike needs a good clean.

    On the hill is a ladder with a broken rung.

    The shepherd cries, “Hey, voters are deluded fools!

    The hour of choosing a global hoax has arrived!
    
I give you man-made warming; here, then, are your tools!”

  122. Claude Harvey says:

    I think these attacks on “The Goracle” are unfair and mean-spirited. The man can’t help himself. He has a “condition”. Show a little empathy for Pete’s sake! Imagine yourself unable to tell the truth, no matter how hard you tried, and every time you opened your mouth utter gibberish spewed out. Imagine the humiliation of getting up before a crowd and finding your mouth saying, “The Arctic Ice Cap will be completely melted in five years!” (four and counting now).

    CH

  123. Polar bears and BBQ sauce says:

    photon without a Higgs (00:02:02) :

    I hope those “tools” Al provides in the end of his poem include a shovel

    ….a really big one

    ….and an ice pick.

  124. Deadman says:

    Oops, I supplied the wrong original. These verses,

    Then dirt is parched
    Kindling is placed in the forest
    For the lightning’s celebration

    Unknown creatures
    Take their leave, unmourned
    Horsemen ready their stirrups

    become:

    Then dirty Al is parched from a sad lack of beer.

    Still, let’s party! Kindling is placed in the forest
    for the lightning god’s celebration. Over here,

    unknown creatures, like Bear-pig, with his human face,
    take their leave, unmourned, and I hope your heart is stirred
    as Horse-men must ready their stirrups for a race.

  125. Håkan B says:

    Phillip Bratby (00:20:32) :

    “Al Gore also said “The entire North Polar ice cap is disappearing before our very eyes. It’s been the size of the continental United States for the last 3 million years”. Such a deep knowledge he has of what it was like before the Holocene!”

    And besides the United States hasn’t existed that long!

  126. M says:

    At least he didn’t become president… : )

  127. AdderW says:

    JonesII (07:25:00) :
    He invented the internet! WUWT wouldn’t even exist…
    He has a brilliant mind!
    PS.Hey Al, send me some bucks..☺

    Actually, he said…

    “During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet.”.

    don’t misquote, but yes, he’s still an idiot

  128. max says:

    Gore is mere Piffle.

  129. Doug says:

    How much money has Gore made from the AGW scam?

  130. DJ Meredith says:

    The Last Temptation of Al Gore??? So, AGW IS a religion!!

    But I’m still clutching my copy of Time warning me of the impending ice age….

  131. Deadman says:

    You know, this trick of giving new interpretations to the word trick, and fudging data to mean anything you want, like making a decline into an incline works well across all the arts and sciences. Mr Gore, as always, sets the trends! For example,

    I think it’s been taken wildly out of context. The discussion you’re referring to was about two papers that two of these scientists felt shouldn’t be accepted as part of the IPCC report. Both of them, in fact, were included, referenced, and discussed.

    That really means:

    I say and you must therefore believe me that these papers mean naught in the long run of things. The e-mail exchange which we shall not discuss was catfish strawberry shortcake with two delicious daiquiris bobcat hypotenuse, IPCC, I see a PC, CC Rider! I thought I saw a harpischord but, egad, it was a coloured buffalo. Hide this my lad, and you may have an autographed photo.

    See how easy it is!

  132. Smokey says:

    Remember this Onion classic? : click

  133. ewb says:

    And now the Goracle tells us that climate change, the bad kind, natch, is just like gravity: “Gore replied that the scientific community has worked on this issue for 20 years. ‘It’s a principle in physics. It’s like gravity. It exists.'”

    http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2009/12/09/2146639.aspx

    Oy.

  134. Robinson says:

    Can someone explain the ManBearPig reference? I see it often but have no idea what it means!

  135. Tony Maclaren says:

    An Inconvenient Psalm

    AL-GORE is my shepherd;

    I shall not think.

    He maketh me lie down with “green” ideologues,

    He leadeth me beside the still-freezing waters.

    He selleth my soul.

    He leadeth me down the path of self-righteousness for his own sake.

    Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of reason,

    I will fear no logic, for thou art with me;

    Thy family oil fortune and thy 10,000 square foot mansion, they comfort me.

    Thou preparest a movie in the presence of contradictory evidence,

    Thou anointest mine head with nonsense; my fear runneth over.

    Surely blind faith and hysteria shall follow me all the days of my life,

    and I will reverently chant the mantras of AL-GORE forever.

  136. Sean says:

    Lordy, the hole that them thar Greenies is in just keeps gittin’ bigger.

    Someone best take away they’s own shovels, or the whole dern thing is gonna collapse on top of ‘em!

  137. Polar bears and BBQ sauce says:

    Sid (03:16:00) :

    This was a fair comment. One problem with the way forward that you speak of is extremely high prices of fossil fuels. This is because the so called “renewables” are very expensive, and this necessitates artificially high prices on existing fuels to make these new fuels competitive. Fossil fuels are a finite resource. Yet, we have already located 1000 Gigatons of coal around the world, most of it in the USA. We have estimates of oil shale as high as 5 Trillion equivalent gallons of oil. Vast reserves of Natural Gas have been discovered in Alaska. Instead of chasing an expensive fantasy, we could simply continue to locate reserves, and while using them, plan for a future of nuclear energy, Biofuels, etc. There is no rationale for cutting our own throats to evade use of natural resources. The earth is not a religious shrine, the polar bears are ok (had one for lunch) and C02 (at a concentration of 4 molecules in every 10 THOUSAND) is a vital beneficial component of our atmosphere.

  138. Reed Coray says:

    Look out Senator Boxer, your heir apparent has been identified.

  139. Plato Says says:

    If you missed this earlier – some very amusing ditties about AGW and Algore – loved the haiku myself :-)

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100019364/climategate-the-inaugural-al-gore-prize-poetry-competition/#comments

  140. Karl Maki says:

    One of the best parts of the interview comes at the end. When it is suggested that one is being hypocritical if one is against war in the Middle East but still drives an SUV, Gore includes in his reply:

    I drive a hybrid and we’ve changed our light bulbs and windows and installed solar panels and geothermal ground source heat pumps and most everything else.

    The interviewer, naturally, completely fails to call him out on the extreme irony of this statement. I’m sure Gore owns a hybrid (after all, is son was caught driving one at aver 100 MPH), but his documented energy use is many, many multiples that of the average American, and thousands of times that which he is advocating we be forced to live with.

    I’m sure Gore drives his Hybrid to all his book signings, and when he travels between his different homes, and going to Copenhagen he probably hopped a ride aboard a cargo freighter headed to Europe so as to avoid air travel. And gosh, his 10,000 square feet of mansion for two is sure efficient.

    Maybe not.

  141. AdderW says:

    Robinson (08:28:41) :
    Can someone explain the ManBearPig reference? I see it often but have no idea what it means!

    SouthPark ManBearPig on YouTube

  142. Bruce Cobb says:

    If Al Gore met Truth on the street, and Truth said “hello Al”, Al would look the other way and pretend not to know him. Indeed, perhaps Al would now no longer recognize him, since he’s been lying for so long. Truth became inconvenient to Al long ago.

  143. Methow Ken says:

    Above ”Inconvenient Psalm” on Al Gore by Tony Maclaren:
    Priceless. . . .

  144. Karl Maki says:

    My own Shakespeare paraphrase:

    There are more things in heaven and earth, Goreatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

  145. tj says:

    Al is an actor in a well scripted ruse. He is only one of many players (from the left and from the right ).

  146. Ed Scott says:

    WSJ Guide to Climate Change
    A collection of our editorials and op-eds.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704007804574574101605007432.html

  147. lowercasefred says:

    Robinson (08:28:41) :

    Can someone explain the ManBearPig reference? I see it often but have no idea what it means!

    **************

    Reference is to a South Park episode. You can find some of it on YouTube.

    ManBearPig was a non-existent beast that AlGore said threatened the world, like AGW.

  148. George E. Smith says:

    “”” harpo (01:57:31) :

    Al Gore knows that his followers are sheep. If he says that the latest email is more than 10 years old they will believe him. None of them will check because they are believers not sceptics (skeptics) whatever….

    Down in Oz, Australian of the year, Tim Flannery, Climate Alarmist No.1 did this calculation in an article in a leading Alarmist newspaper (The Melbourne Age). Flannery claims to be a scientist. Of what, I don’t know.

    Paraphrasing…..
    Average global temperature in 1900 was 15C. Now it’s 20C. That’s a 25% increase in temperature!

    Check…. (unless it has been modified by the Age… which has been know to happen when they get caught out… in that case I kept a PDF as evidence)

    http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/politics/climate-sceptics-and-the-liberals-negotiating-in-bad-faith-20091203-k8pr.html

    An economist, Terry McCrannt pointed out that its actually (based on Flannery’s figures) a 33% increase. He went on to say that if Flannery can’t undertake that basic calculation why should we believe anything he says. “””

    Well here in the land of the Rod/Stone/Fortnight system, the temperature only increased from 57F up to 68 F so that makes it only a 19.3 % increase.

    No wonder you Oztralians think is so darn hot all the time !

  149. J. Peden says:

    ~”He played on your fears, he betraaaayed this country”

    Gore speaking of Bush, who “stole” the election.

    A truely funny bumper sticker on one car around here – there aren’t many bumper stickers here in redneck country – was “Re elect Gore in 2004″. Unfortuneately, it was accompanied by another: ~”Live long and well, then die off”.

    Oh the caring, the sensitivity, of our betters, “the audacious distortion of reality to reach the higher truths.”

  150. Reed Coray says:

    Vincent (03:03:39) :

    I am not trying to compare Al Gore with a monkey however. Just sayin’.

    I’m glad you didn’t. I’d hate to accuse you of insulting monkeys.

  151. P Walker says:

    Robinson (08:28:41) – It is a reference to an episode on “South Park” , an animated satire show here in the US . In this particular episode , Al Gore shows up in South Park to warn the residents of the dangers of Manbearpig – half man , half bear , half pig . Hope this helps . If you google it , you can probably find on the internet thingy .

  152. Richard M says:

    Kate, thanks for the latest from M4GW. I suspect Gore must be visiting somewhere in the Upper Midwest right now. Temps are dropping like a rock over 20F below normal and those 30MPH sustained winds are dropping wind chills way below 0F (suppose to be -30F tonight). I have a nice new foot of snow drifting all over my yard. Please, please could we get some global warming.

  153. Just The Facts says:

    Al Gore on CNN’s “American Morning” getting some tough questions and being called on the 10 year-old email lie:

    http://us.cnn.com/video/?/video/living/2009/12/09/am.gore.global.warming.cnn

    Watching Gore the first word that came to mind was “smarmy”. Al Gore has positioned himself to become one of the most discredited human beings in history, and he seems to be wrapped up so deeply in his own blather that he doesn’t see it coming. Gore deserves a cell right next to Madoff’s…

  154. Al Gore says:

    2+2=5

    Capital of Tennessee is Memphis

    Windows 95 came out in 2000

    Tony Romo is awesome in December

  155. P Wilson says:

    Phillip Bratby (00:20:32) :

    “Al Gore also said “The entire North Polar ice cap is disappearing before our very eyes.”

    If its 2million C 2km below, then thats hardly surprising…

  156. P Wilson says:

    “Evergreen trees of the American West are dying by the milions”

    That means tree rings stop during warming.

    Time to re-hash the proxies

  157. Vincent says:

    “I suspect Gore must be visiting somewhere in the Upper Midwest right now. Temps are dropping like a rock over 20F below normal and those 30MPH sustained winds are dropping wind chills way below 0F”

    And the Lord looked upon Gore and saw that he had spread great untruths that were a blasphemy upon this earth. And also the Lord saw that this Gore was causing great fear and the hearts of men to tremble with his blasphemies and that he had made the monies to disappear from the pockets of man and into his own account.

    And a great anger came upon the Lord, whereupon he raised his staff and from heaven cried: “Gore I thee curse, and thou shalt suffer the cold and snows as of a mighty chill that shall follow thee unto the ends of this earth.”

    And thus became that which became known as “the Gore effect.”

  158. Jim Greig says:

    If Al Gore learned anything from promoting Climate Change and Global Warming to boost his Carbon Offset business, it was that if you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes truth.

  159. ponderosaTX says:

    The Washington Post published a revealing expose’ of Al Gore’s lack of scientific expertise in a news article published in March 2000 during his campaign for President. See

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&contentId=A37397-2000Mar18

    I overlapped Al as a student at Harvard College during 1967-1969 (but never met him). During the 2000 Presidential campaign, I remember being underwhelmed by his academic record. His SAT aptitude scores were mediocre by Harvard standards, his achievement test scores in the sciences were abysmal, and his grades at Harvard were terrible. He did not take a single serious science or mathematics course as an undergraduate.

  160. DRE says:

    The last reliable email is ten years old. Since that time the emails contain a non-temperature correlated response and can therefore simply be ignored!

  161. Roger Knights says:

    “Evergreen trees of the American West are dying by the millions”

    Supposedly this is due to greater warmth that has allowed a destructive beetle to extend its range. However, I read a rebuttal to this somewhere that put the blame elsewhere. (I think the author may even have partly blamed it on an unintended side effect of some environmental measure.)

  162. Marie says:

    Ok the concesus is that Al Gore is an idiot – he’s a rich one though – so who’s laughing now?!

  163. Spenc Canada says:

    Folks I have to say that I am getting tired of our trying to take down Al gore with smear, name calling and suggestion. What we need on this person are the facts. We need calls to investigate him and we need to uncover what ever we can along this line. Most of what I read here incriminates us, as far as warmers are concerned. Stick to the facts. That is what we are fighting for after all.

  164. Kate says:

    We’ve got to stop preaching to the choir and get on over to http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/08/AR2009120803402.html

    The warmers are out in force, calling Palin a Bimbo for speaking up, and excoriating the WashPo for running an Op they don’t like.

  165. Trev says:

    You have to remember that Gore had to homogenise the date before he disclosed it.
    Using one of those pesky AlGoreythems.

  166. Bill VanArsdale says:

    Al Gore’s “An Inconvenient Truth” (2006) is the “Reefer Madness” (1936) of my generation. While a half hour longer, the production budgets are similar in constant dollars. Perhaps Paramount Classics will do a “colorized” version like the one 20th Century Fox released for “Reefer Madness” in 2004. I expect such a parody to appear well before 2074.

  167. Ryan C says:

    OT but had to share my funny idea:

    Since the EPA declared greenhouse gases to be poisonous… the last few days anytime someone is close to me I have been saying “WOH stop exhaling on me, that is poisonous you know?”.. Or when someone is drinking water or having a shower I let them know that they are poisoning their bodies. Spread the word. It is simply amazing how many people don’t know that we exhale c02 and that water vapour is a GHG. I was shocked.

  168. Hawaii Don says:

    I guess what kills me is that by using the data at the NCDC it shows what skeptics have been saying all along. Go to the link below and put in 1895 (the farthest dates that temp history is available) to 2009 and you will see a 0.12 degrees C rise in temperatures for the U.S. Plug in 1980-2009 and you will see a rise of 0.44 degrees C. But plug in 1997-2009 and you will see a 0.29 degree C drop. There is a warning at the top of the page indicating that this data hasn’t been “quality controlled”. I guess that means they haven’t applied any of Mike Mann’s “tricks” to “hide the decline”?

    http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/cag3/na.html

  169. David Deming says:

    I have a Ph.D in geophysics. I studied at the University of Utah with David Chapman. Chapman in turn studied under Henry Pollack, another thermal geophysicist, at the University of Michigan. Ironically, Pollack is now one of Gore’s advisors.

    I have published dozens of papers in the peer-reviewed scientific literature on thermal geophysics.

    As pointed out here, Gore’s statement is ridiculously, hopelessly, wrong. The temperature of rocks in geothermal fields is typically in the hundreds of deg C. The near-surface melting temperature of rock is in the neighborhood of 1000 C.

    Gore is wrong by at least a factor of a thousand, or one-hundred-thousand percent.

    This man, a politician and lawyer, is now advising the world on the science of climate and the technical field of energy?

    God help us. This guy obviously does not have a clue.

    And how can someone be so remarkably stupid as to believe we have
    drill bits that can withstand “millions of degrees” of temperature?

    Oh my God. The nakedness of the Emperor is fully revealed at last.

    –DD

  170. Hangtime55 says:

    Good ‘Ol Al , he’s still great for a laugh !

    How can Al Gore , ( Mr. Enviromentalist ) continue to support the Man Made Global Warming Hoax when he knows that the ClimateGate X-Files has him and the Pro-Anthropological Global Warming community up against the wall .

    Gore’s obvious Cop-Out was displayed to the World community when he cancelled his apperarence at The United Nations’ Climate Change Conference in Copenhagen last week DUE to ” Unforeseen Changes in his Schedule ?

    What ? How could this be ? If Santa Claus appears every Christmas , and the Easter Bunny appears every Easter , and Cupid appears every Valentines Day , and the Great Pumpkin appears every Halloween , then surely Al Gore must appear at every United Nations Climate Change Conferences !

    Al Gore’s diligent commitment to the Pro-Anthropological Global Warming campaign has made him the poster child for this issue for the last 10 years . Gore’s Acadamy and Grammy winning Awards for his material concerning Global Warming , including a Pulitzer Prize , National Book Awards in the US , an association with an Academy and Grammy Award-winning movie and documentry and Top Billing to numerous conferences, seminars and symposiums . Gore is Admired by men , Adored by women and Cherished by chiildren . AL GORE . . . is . . . Superman !

    So how could Al Gore miss Copenhagen on December 7 , 2009 ? Well , like the Article title above , it seems that Al Gore either can’t comprehend a sense of time in his scheduling or he knows it’s not good sense to appear at this time . In these times in the United States where the Consitutional Rights of the people are jeopardized , it seems that Al Gores interests has been diverted away from Copenhagen and focused on his Fifth Admendment right.

    The ClimateGate files have come into the spotlight , and with their concrete disclosure of Manipulation, Deception, Suppression of Evidence and FOIA violations exposed in the data and documents inclosed , Mr. Gore has chosen, and chosen wisely to step out of this particular spotlight .

    Al Gore , Mr. Enviromentalist , the Superman of the Green Movement has met his demise in the name of ClimateGate . This well deserved disaster and tragedy of his enduring illusion that Global Warming is the product of Humanity has not only been demolished , but has also demoted his credibility and association with those who continue to enslave humanity.

    If Al Gore was Superman , then ClimateGate is certainly his Kryptonite and while heads are rolling and careers of the criminally motivated scientists are placed in question , rest assure that Al Gore , or Superman will stay as far away from ClimateGate as he can .

  171. David Alan says:

    This just in.

    http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe/12/09/gore.climate.summit.copenhagen/

    “Gore attempts to difuse ‘Danish Text’ dispute.”

    In a interview by Becky Anderson, to be shown on CNNs Connect the World at 4 EST today 12-9-9, This is what Gore had to say:

    “He said climate change was the most complex challenge ever to confront human civilization and climate change skeptics — who have prospered in the wake of email leaks from a UK climate research center — were living in an “era of unreality.”

  172. yonason says:

    I THINK WE’VE LOCATED THE SOURCE OF THE PROBLEM

    “…the most recent emails in Climategate were from November 2009. Last month, this year, earth time.

    Well, there it is. For someone from another planet, or an alternate dimension, Gore’s mistakes are entirely excusable. And “Jet lag” is nothing when compared to <a href="http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/760/devogoremn9.jpg"time travel anomalies.

  173. yonason says:

    Gore’s mistakes are entirely excusable. And “Jet lag” is nothing when compared to time travel anomalies.

    sorry.

  174. harpo says:

    ShrNfr said:
    harpo Intelligence is one of the things that is Rankin last with the Gore crowd. For 2 points why is 0 degrees F at the temperature assigned to it?

    OK, I’ll bite….

    I’m a Celsius kinda guy, but I think 0 Degrees F is the freezing point of ethyl-alcohol (ethanol) which is what was used in the original thermometers ???. 100F is body temperature. (I promise I didn’t look that up).

    But I am thinking of changing my thermometer to the Rod/Stone/Fortnight model as poposed by George Smith. So now I suppose we’ve got (33 – 19)/33 = 42% cooler… Problem solved. Thankyou George.

    Can I have my PhD in Climatology now please! (I’ll cite both of you in my new peer reviewed study).

  175. harpo (01:57:31) :

    Al Gore knows that his followers are sheep. If he says that the latest email is more than 10 years old they will believe him. None of them will check because they are believers not sceptics (skeptics) whatever….

    They sure do believe that, saw it with my own eyes today on a Dutch blog where a warmista pointed out the those mails where not to be taken serious since they where over 10 years old.

    Checking the facts?

  176. KLA says:

    Well come on guys.

    Y’all sound as if you don’t believe in AGW, where:

    AGW = (A)l (G)ore’s (W)ords

  177. yonason says:

    BIG AL SETS THE RECORD STRAIGHT

    “Global warming, a new religion? That’s just silly. Who ever heard of such nonsense?”Al Gore

  178. Brenda says:

    There are a lot of smart people on this site, but as someone else has already pointed out you are preaching to the choir. Meanwhile at the CNN site and others the warmists are dismissing the emails and endlessly repeating the talking points of the alarmists which consist mainly of “oil companies, oil companies, oil companies, oil companies . . .”
    You guys obviously know the facts, so go make mince meat out of ‘em, would ya? Please.

  179. Roger Knights says:

    “Oh my God. The nakedness of the Emperor is fully revealed at last.”

    –DD”

    Man, that is one ugly emperor.

  180. CO2 Realist says:

    bradley13 (05:06:15) :”Is the interviewer that unprepared? Or was this a rigged stage?”

    Both.

  181. tokyoboy says:

    Could anyone tell me which the oldest mail was?

  182. Harold Blue Tooth says:

    hunter (05:06:39) :

    He invented the internet, and the Earth is millions of degrees inside.
    And the Earth has a fever

    Ahhh, that’s right.

    He can’t count votes. He can’t read dates. He can’t read temperature estimates.

    But he can sell klunker science, to some.

  183. emelks says:

    Ol’ Al may have flunked Divinity school but he made an A++ on the “Jim Jones–Creating and Maintaining a Death Cult” seminar.

  184. Jason says:

    Al Gore is a pig with his snout in the money trough, just the same as Lord Stern is on the UK. Liers and thieves.

  185. inversesquare says:

    I went over to the CNN blog last night to ask Al a question about long wave solar radiation data from ERBE and it got moderated out…..just asked again and this time it’s in….but I guess the interview is long over by now….
    I live in NZ so have not seen the interview….does anyone have news on how it went?

  186. Norman says:

    Leon Brozyna (23:39:38) :

    Al Gore —

    failed divinity student
    failed politician
    failed science promoter

    But a brilliant conman who has sold his goods to millions and has made himself quite wealthy in the process! It seems he does not care about the Truth and it seems people are too stupid to see what a liar he really is.

  187. Imran says:

    Its just so evry sad to see this kind of thing. The complete and utter inability of anyone in the media to take him to task for what he says. At some point somone has to just state that he can’t keep making things up. And that is what he is doing – just making things up ….. all the time.

    Becky Anderson from CNN could have compeltely railroaded the entire AGW movement by just stating “But Al – that isn’t true – is it ? Here are the e-mails and they are not 10 years old – they are very recent.” Then what is he going to say ? CNN are so useless.

  188. inversesquare says:

    OMG!!

    I’ve just been reading through the CNN ‘AM Fix’ page and side bar news items…

    It reads like an infomercial paid for by Al!

    WOW!!

    I live in NZ and our media has pretty much said NOTHING about this stuff (the odd token piece here or there, but a search of our biggest Paper brings up 0 matches)

    But you guys, you’ve got propaganda that in our country would need a ‘this advert was paid for by XYZ ministries and does not necessarily reflect the views of this station’ clause attached to it!

    WOW!!

  189. rbateman says:

    Gore has been picking up the people who weren’t paying attention.
    Not any more. Under the microscope, they weigh your every word.
    SIlly arguments from a rubber theory won’t do, and Climate Change won’t stretch any tighter to cover the leaks in your boat.
    CarbonHagen broken down and negotiations suspended.
    Carbon Colonialism rejected, GOP headed over to counter the forged science of AGW. Many nations are aghast at the spectre of a smoke&mirror plan.

  190. Graeme From Melbourne says:

    A Clever Buffoon.

  191. usathegreat says:

    The man-made global warming fraud is on the largest scale ever attempted in history. Who better to pick-pocket than the entire American population. Well done Al. I hope Al Gore ends up in prison for the role he has played in this massive lie called man-made global warming. The amount of money stolen from US citizens in the form of baseless global warming taxes will never be repaid to its rightful owners. Prison is where Al Gore belongs. Along with any other person in power that uses global warming as an excuse to levy taxes and fees on the American people.

  192. Jerry says:

    Folks,

    This was not a case of Al Gore being stupid. He was being very cagey.

    He’s trying to create an aura of doubt and irrelevance around the emails. He knows damn well that the MSM will advertise and repeat everything he says, and won’t bother to check facts. He’s playing them like a fiddle.

    No doubt he met with his staff and “crafted” this statement, and probably practiced it many times until it came across as believable.

    And his followers, the true believers, and the liberal arts crowd just eat this stuff up. It’s quite enough for them, and they’ll gladly repeat it themselves.

  193. photon without a Higgs says:

    He can’t read dates but he can frighten children so they can’t sleep good.

    You’re a real man Al.

  194. Back2Bat says:

    Don’t envy Al Gore (is that even possible?).

    ” But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.” Revelation 21:8 [emphasis added]

  195. hysteria says:

    manbearpig – half man, half bear, half pig ….obviously from the same maths school as the CRU crowd!!!!

  196. rbateman says:

    hysteria (19:31:18) :

    3 halves make 1.5, but then when did anything Al Gore ever said about Climate Science add up to anything less than a half-baked bias?
    The MSM could have him totally roasted in about 1.5 interviews.
    That might just happen one of these days.
    He certainly makes enough of his own verbal gravy.

  197. savethesharks says:

    inversesquare: “That is what science is supposed to be…. people who care about truth ….. that’s what science is supposed to be!!
    To see it go down in flames for political reasons, now that is what these people will need to go on trial for when this is all over.
    The heart of science is truth and the human spirit.”

    EXTREMELY well put!!!

    Hear hear.

    Chris
    Norfolk, VA, USA

  198. Allen Ford says:

    “Daryl M (22:59:52) :

    It’s shocking to see what a pathological liar Al Gore is.”

    Like when he blatantly lied on TV, that the British High Court found in his favour, in the case brought against AIT for being mandantorily shown to school kids without any qualification.

  199. Steve says:

    Great Post!

    We are covering Climategate in depth at Common Cents…

    http://www.commoncts.blogspot.com

    ps. Link Exchange??

  200. Denis Ables says:

    There was a video on one of these sites, a report by dad & son, on using GSFC data to exhibit rural and urban temperatures over the period 1900-2006.

    I can’t find it, can anyone give me the website.

    (my email: denis@ablesfamily.com) tks

  201. CalGrad says:

    I don’t think for a minute Gore said that because he thinks it’s correct, he said it because he knows that people will take him at his word, not check for themselves, and discount the whole Climategate issue as a…well, as a non-issue.

    And he’s right.

  202. Allen Ford says:

    Denis Ables (10:26:14) :

    There was a video on one of these sites, a report by dad & son, on using GSFC data to exhibit rural and urban temperatures over the period 1900-2006.

    I can’t find it, can anyone give me the website.

    Hi Denis,

    Was this the site of which you speak?

  203. Wayne Richards says:

    Kath (23:57:59) :

    With apologies to the all-seeing, all-knowing, internet inventin’ Goracle.. but whenever I see his name, an image of a Bull runs through my mind.

    The image I see is a bum steer.

  204. drewsi says:

    That email displayed for November 12, 2009 had what damaging information in it? Gore was referring to the apparently damming email that was 10 years old — and the data made it into the IPCC anyway. The fact that every credible science-based organization on the planet substantially agrees with Gore in regards to man-made climate change leads me to think that I should agree with him also.

  205. Mark says:

    @ drewsi (00:47:58) :

    [snip] The fact that every credible science-based organization [/snip]

    Credible is in cru?
    Credible as in gores movie?
    Credible as in nasa refusing to release their data?

    There is zero credibility in the warmist`s theory, none at all.

  206. H.R. says:

    @drewsi (00:47:58) :

    “[...] The fact that every credible science-based organization on the planet substantially agrees with Gore in regards to man-made climate change leads me to think that I should agree with him also.”

    The fact that every scientific organization (at one time) believed that the earth was the center of the solar system (and the universe for that matter) would have led you to agree with them? It turns out it’s a good thing someone looked into that, eh?

    At some point, someone has to do a little scientific fact checking. Consensus isn’t science.

  207. Brian Ralls says:

    drewsi – “The fact that every credible science-based organization on the planet substantially agrees with Gore in regards to man-made climate change”

    First of all, anyone who believes that there is NO credible scientists who disagree on man made global warming is ignorant on the subject, How about Prof. Mojib Latif of Germany’s Leibniz Institute?

    Latif is one of the leading climate modellers in the world. He is the recipient of several international climate-study prizes and a lead author for the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). He has contributed significantly to the IPCC’s last two five-year reports that have stated unequivocally that man-made greenhouse emissions are causing the planet to warm dangerously.

    Yet recently in Geneva, at the UN’s World Climate Conference–an annual gathering of the so-called “scientific consensus” on man-made climate change –Latif conceded the Earth has not warmed for nearly a decade and that we are likely entering “one or even two decades during which temperatures cool.” and nobody predicts a reduction in Carbon in the next few decades and we darn well know that there was none in the last decade.

    Go read http://joannenova.com.au/globalwarming/the_skeptics_handbook_2-3_mq.pdf

    2nd, all those sopposedly sophisticated computer models that predicted continued and never ending temp increases (which included the last 8 years) were wrong, temps have not gone up over the last 8 years and you want us all to belive these non credible computer models produced by scientists who have been proven to enter whatever data it takes to get the results out of them that they want? I think not.

  208. tangerine says:

    and I thought that Al Gore was the one to trust when it came to this kinda thing. maybe it was good that Bush got into being president, so that the circle of economic downfall and uprise could happen…

    Respect for Al Gore = 0.

  209. toyotawhizguy says:

    In addition to “Can’t tell time”, the Reverend Al Gore can’t read a thermometer. Recently he claimed on TV that the earth is a miilion degrees at its core. (lol, spoken like a true science flunky, if that were true the earth would be a sun! The generally accepted earth core temperature is thought to be no more than 7,000 deg K) From this, one can surmise that he is feeling rather warm under the soles of his shoes, and will be beating a hasty retreat from his AGW position and begin promoting ….. drumroll ….. Geothermal Energy.

  210. Reed Coray says:

    I’m not so sure Al Gore isn’t THE AUTHORITY on the temperature of the Earth’s core. The WUWT post “Gore cancels on Copenhagen lecture – leaves ticketholders in a lurch”, 3 December 2009 has a picture of Mr. Gore that with a little imagination clearly indicates Al knows whereof his forked tounge speaks. Wherever you plan to spend eternity, it’s a good idea to know what the temperature will be like.

  211. Spurwing Plover says:

    Al Gore has lied so much he is use to it

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