Guest Post by Thomas Fuller
Depending on when this gets posted, the post Anthony put up titled “O…M…G – Video explodes skeptical kids in bloodbath” may have sunk quite a bit down the pile of posts–Anthony and his squad are prolific posters.
But it can’t get any lower than the content shown in 10 10’s video. A relatively innocuous campaign to persuade people to lower their own emissions by 10 percent has pretty much exploded (literally) any hope that the debate can rise above the Wes Craven level. What’s next? The Last House on the Left… Isn’t Insulated?
The idea that blowing up skeptics is the proper response isn’t at all new–and skeptics have known this for ten years, if the drivel I get in my inbox is any indication at all. The very phrase ‘denier’ comes from a concerted campaign to show skeptics (and lukewarmers like myself, although we often get the double whammy title delayer and denier) as equivalent to those who denied the Holocaust occurred.
There has been a concerted campaign to paint everyone who does not agree with Al Gore and James Hansen as monstrous, ranging from allegories with the railroad trains filled with coal heading to some concentration camp to the late Stephen Schneider’s pathetic paper attempting to assert primacy and purity by miscounting academic publications.
But this is hate speech, pure and simple. It legitimizes almost any action against or characterization of those who do not agree with the most hysterical version of Catastrophic and Cataclysmic Climate Change–shoot ’em all and let God sort ’em out.
Using ten-year-old kids as both props and victims is a particularly nice touch.
When DDB created an ad for the WWF showing planes crashing into the World Trade Center as an advertisement asking for support for green activism, it was grotesque, tasteless and an insult to all who suffered losses on September 11th, 2001. It would have been impossible to imagine a cruder, less sensitive call to green action.
Until now.
For any of those on the activist side who wonder why skeptics (and lukewarmers) don’t trust the communications put forward by their team, they might wonder just how much any sign of reason might be contaminated by the stench from garbage like this.
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The thing about satire, is that it is most skillfully used as a weapon by the weak to strike at the oppression of the powerful; A Modest Proposal for example. When the powerful are attempting to use satire as a weapon against the weak, it just comes across as threatening propaganda.
perhaps it would be more funny if they had something along the lines:
2 guys being asked to prove they had reduced emissions by 10%. Guy 1 says he installed a new boiler reduced emissions. Guy 2 did nothing. Guy 2 gets blown up. somebody points out c02 generated by manufacturing boiler more than the 10% saved. Guy 1 gets blown up too – guy 2 gets medal – for all the good it would do him.
The 10:10 website: Sorry, we’ve taken this video down for now. More info coming very soon.
That went well.
It takes a lot more time and money to put together a film than a blog comment or a web page. Yet even so the 10:10 people were unable to foresee that their efforts would, er, explode in their faces.
The 10:10 video marks a turning point in the global warming debate — not when the AGW advocates started to lose, but when they started to melt down in public.
And then everybody will celebrate Halloween…
Tom Fuller is right: it is hate speech directed at young kids. It is poor taste and the violence is a reflection of the deep frustration the AGW crowd is feeling. They have been excited to think they’ll save the world and it turns out they’ve been cheated. Just as they were last century when they had to realize that their communist ideal was another totalitarism.
If that’s what they need to get their message accross, then this is deperate time. I agree with Wiglaf, it was too tame and it’s time they think at saving the solar system from the sun’s programmed giant red stage too…
Meanwhile we shoudl start a new movement: “Seismic Equality: for an equitable distribution of Earthquakes”. You know what I mean…
a man with a gun took hostages at the Discovery channel over enviromental issues … to claim that skeptics are paranoid because of a video depicting violence against skeptics is financed, made and published is simply ironic … I’m sure we would hear these same claims of paranoia if someone made a video showing Al Gore being blown up …
Natural warming deniers how about trying this … when someone on your side does something stupid, say “that’s stupid” instead of defending it … defending the indefensible makes you look less and less knowledgeable and more and more paranoid yourself …
The video can still be found here:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2010/sep/30/10-10-no-pressure-film
Anyone who finds this tripe the least bit entertaining, funny, edgy, or the like should report to their nearest mental health facility.
Here’s the deal with this pathetic attempt at humor.
It fails miserably for the same reason that all such humor fails: Fanatics are humorless prigs. So, when they try their hand at it, this is the result. Stupidity and brutality.
Their humor fails, that is, except to those who share their fanaticism. Mr. Gould is exhibit number one.
Chuck September 30, 2010 at 4:32 pm
Two thumbs up mate.
The little movie is undoubtedly hateful and destructive. It is an ugly thing to have produced, and all who took part in it have a great deal to be ashamed of. It does provide some insight into the damage that CO2-alarmism has done to the moral fibre of such people.
They have gone too far, and I suspect their grasp of the scientific arguments is such that they really have no personal idea of why they have gone there. They have merely done something which they think will please their intellectual/political leaders and further their cause – a cause which they have been assured is based on ‘settled science’.
Here is the blog of the producer of the video together with a few posts about how exciting it all is and how difficult it is to get child actors:
http://seatofthepants.wordpress.com/about/
The blog also has details of other commercial interests in the 10:10 organisation
David Gould says:
September 30, 2010 at 7:16 pm
Anthony Watts,
Unfortunately, my influence extends precisely nowhere. I could write a letter to the federal minister for agriculture that *might* have *slightly* more chance of being read by someone in a position to do something, but that would be about it. And it appears to be a state matter, rather than a federal one. A further complication is that the federal government is Labor and the state government Liberal.
Perhaps the best advice I could offer is for the family to contact Bob Katter, Tony Windsor and Rob Oakeshott, the three country independents. Tony Crook, a National Party member from WA but one who wishes to be considered as an Independent, might also be well worth a shot. These people have power in the new hung parliament.
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Welcome to WUWT David and thanks for the information.
If you missed Senator BERNARDI (South Australia) comments before Parliament, here’s a link; Excellent speech and remarkable Statesmanship.
http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/timblair/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/farm_aid/desc/#commentsmore
Its also posted on the JoNova site.
10:10 wants to hear from you!
hello@1010uk.org
David Gould [snip] Its pretty obvious from his statements and points of view.
The video is another death nail in the coffin of humanity. Everyone needs to wake up to the agenda of the totalitarian dictatorship that is the EU. The European Union of Death.
Douglas Dc says: October 1, 2010 at 7:45 am
Thanks. Should have said “many” not “most”.
Lucy Skywalker,
I wish to respond to this:
“David Gould, your lack of appreciation of our distress at this video, already feels like you have dehumanized us… only a little bit but still real. Please.”
I can understand why people might not find it funny: humour is not the same for everybody.
I can understand why people might find it gross: not everyone likes blood and gore.
I can understand why people might react against it, in that it is an ad for a campaign which many here oppose.
What I cannot understand in the reaction here is the notion that this video is evidence that – for example – AGW activists are planning on killing sceptics, or that this video somehow equates to the Holocaust, or that me finding this video funny somehow means that I want to implement the killing of children as social policy or would have found Dachau or 9-11 hilarious. And what I am even more surprised at and do not understand is that almost nobody on here raised a murmour about those comments.
I respect people, whatever their views or ideas or behaviours. And I think everyone should respect people. But views, ideas or behaviours deserve no automatic respect: they stand or fall on their merits.
So, if you are distressed by this video, please tell me why. If it is because it has made you afraid that I am going to kill you – although I have said that that is not my intention (as if I should have to say that!) some people here have stated that they do not believe me … – then I do not have respect for that viewpoint, as it is ridiculous. (Although I will still feel sorry for your distress).
So: tell me why this video distresses you.
John Whitman,
I notice that you did not respond to my question, but anyway.
Part of the context that I am talking about has been amply demonstrated on this thread: the over-the-top paranoia regarding the supposed warmist agenda to pack you all off to death camps or go around hunting you. Seriously: people here think that I personally want to kill them because I found this video funny. (At least, I assume that they were being serious: perhaps that is intended as humour).
The other part of the context is the extreme statements made by some on my side of the fence. The video is satirising those by taking them to extremes.
As such, it is difficult to think up a directly analogous context to fit, say, homosexuals into this picture. But I am sure someone cleverer than I could do so.
David Gould,
And you don’t see that this video is sending a message that those with differing views will not be respected? Spoof or satire it may be, but substitute any of the long-fought intolerances and you might get one of the points of concern here. What a thing to teach our children – that they should conform and not think for themselves when someone else decrees that what the greater good is. Summarised here
Totally insane in the membrane.
A comment from one of the copies…
Copied verbatim so the spelling errors aren’t mine.
David Gould.
Propaganda is fiction.
1) Identify an enemy – check
2) Dehumanise & marginalise your enemy – check
3) inure your followers to the unacceptable – check
Need I go on?
It didn’t work out too well the last times! Have you been asleep for the last 80 odd years or did you just decide that history was the past & not worth bothering about?
DaveE.
I am curious about David Gould, he seems to have no concept of evil. Is this because he is an atheist? If so, my answer is, I am not religious enough to be an atheist!
DaveE.
Dave A. Evans,
Propaganda is lies. There is a difference between fiction and lying. A propaganda piece intends to convince its viewers that the lies that it is telling are true; a fictional piece tells a story in order to try to teach us some truth.
David Gould says:
“…So: tell me why this video distresses you.”
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So, David, while we’re waiting for Lucy to get back to you on that one, can you tell us why you find it funny?
Did you break out in guffaws of laughter?
Did you giggle like a prurient school-boy?
Did a wry smile steal across your face?
Maybe, you meant “funny, peculiar”.
Like several other commenters, I find it funny that the ten-tenners found it funny on Thursday, but not so funny on Friday.
MarbellaBoy says:
September 30, 2010 at 4:39 pm
“The Last house on the left” – is not insulated
Ha ha ha, how about………
“The Hostel” – That’s what you get for taking a plane to Slovakia
“The Texas chainsaw massacre” – Better use for a chainsaw than cutting down trees
“The Shining” – You kept the heating on in that huge hotel for just three people?!!!
“Halloween” – Yea, I’ve got a trick in store for you alright
“Jaws” – If the shark don’t get you, the acid water will
The last house on the left is actually the first house on the right, when you leave, and the insulation is far better than you might imagine, sweet cheeks!
Chainsaws were meant for wood. Only a misanthropist would use them on humans.
Just because you can’t see ghosts, it doesn’t mean they don’t exist.
The only trick on Halloween you’re gonna get is the one you’ve set for yourself.
When was the last time the Earth’s oceans were acidic, even when the CO2 levels in the atmosphere were far higher than now?
Whether humour or otherwise, the video was produced for one purpose only, to castigate anyone who takes an opposing view to the fanatical AGW brigade – the people who find it increasingly hard to argue their case after so much evidence upon which they based their claims has been proven to be false or at best grossly exaggerated. It is very sad that they cannot argue on the scientific level without resorting to personal and slanderous attacks on those that oppose their viewpoint. I was once told in the services that ‘ he who becomes angry or resorts to personal abuse on a point of disagreement always looses the argument.’ The video is the perfect example of such a wise statement.
Of course, this shouldn’t really have surprised me or any of us who found this apparent comedy video funny. It was indeed aimed at children an others who could be considere drelatively young, probably because they haven’t been around lonng enough to have seen it all before when it was good old fashioned Marxist Socialism. However, I seem to recall that one Albert Gore had been saying to young people that they “should not listen to grown ups”, for some time! Is that spookey or what? This is just the beginning, they won’t stop there!