A New Blacklist

From Roger Pielke Jr.’s Blog

A New Black List

Little did I know it, but I am intimately associated with the world’s most accomplished “climate skeptic.” But he is not actually a skeptic, because he believes that humans have a profound influence on the climate system and policy action is warranted. More on that in a second.

A new paper is out today in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (which I’ll call APHS10 after the author’s initials) that segregates climate scientists into the “convinced” and the “unconvinced” — two relatively ambiguous categories — and then seeks to compare the credentials of the two groups. The paper is based on the tireless efforts of a climate blogger, self-described as “not an academic,” who has been frustrated by those who don’t share his views on climate change:

I’ve also grown all too familiar with the tiny minority of ‘climate skeptics’ or ‘deniers’ who try to minimize the problem, absolve humans of any major impact, or suggest there is no need to take any action. I’ve gotten pretty fed up with the undue weight given to the skeptics in the media and online.

What qualifies one to be on the APHS10 list of skeptics, which I’ll just call the “black list”? Well, you get there for being perceived to have certain views on climate science or politics. You get on the black list if you have,

signed any of the open letters or declarations expressing skepticism of the IPCC’s findings, of climate science generally, of the “consensus” on human-induced warming, and/or arguing against any need for immediate cuts to greenhouse gas emissions.

In fact, it turns out that you don’t even have to sign an open letter or argue against immediate cuts for emissions. You can simply appear unwillingly on Senator James Inhofe’s list. A co-author of APHS10 warns on his website (but not in the paper) of the perils of relying on the Senator’s list:

I caution readers to take this with a grain of salt: a number of experts have been included despite their strong support for GHG reductions. However, the list does record a significant number of people who are outspoken critics of Kyoto or of efforts to cut GHG emissions generally.

So you can find yourself on the black list as a “climate skeptic” or “denier” simply because you express strong support for greenhouse gas reductions, but have been critical of the Kyoto approach. On the other hand, a scientist like James Hansen, who has expressed considerable disagreement with aspects of the IPCC consensus, finds himself on the list of people who are said to agree with the IPCC consensus. In fact, it appears that simply being a contributor to the IPCC qualifies one to be on the list of those who are defined to be in agreement with the IPCC consensus and/or demand immediate action on emissions reductions and support Kyoto (unless of course one doesn’t qualify, in which case you are placed on the other list — it is complicated, trust me).

So what does this new paper measure exactly? Hell if I know. But it is clear that in the climate debate there are good guys and there are bad guys, and to tell them apart, it is important to have a list. A black list.

Back to the world’s most accomplished “climate skeptic.” That would be my father who not only tops the black list but also would be near the top of the list of acceptable scientists based on his credentials, had he been placed there. What sort of views does my father hold that would qualify him to lead the “climate skeptics” list?

I was copied on his reply to a reporter today and can quote from that. He provides this rather ambiguous statement:

I am not a “climate skeptic”.

Note to Dad, there is no better evidence of your denier credentials than denying that you are a denier. Trust me — been there, done that. Far from being a skeptic, my father has long argued that the IPCC has underestimated the human influence on the climate system, which includes but is not limited to carbon dioxide, a view that is pretty mainstream these days, thanks in part to his work. Does he “try to minimize the problem, absolve humans of any major impact, or suggest there is no need to take any action”? Well, no.

What my father does do is ask questions, challenge preconceptions, advance hypotheses and test them with data and analysis, followed by publication of his work in the world’s leading climate journals for a period of decades without much regard for whether his work supports or challenges a consensus — in short, he does exactly the sort of thing that makes you one of the most published and most cited scientists of your generation. But in the bizarre world of climate science deviation from or challenge to orthodox views on science or politics is enough to get you on a list as the top bad guy.

APHS10, co-authored by a leading climate scientist (Steve Schneider) and appearing in the premier journal of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS) may very well mark a new low point in the pathological politicization of climate science. But hey, at least now we have a list. A black list.

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Murray
June 22, 2010 12:36 pm

I would consider it an honor to appear on such a black list. It might constitute evidence of a will and an ability to think independently and critically. Murray

TomRude
June 22, 2010 12:44 pm

Jim Prall, green totalitarism little helper, has a blog:
http://birdbrainscan.blogspot.com/
From his website: “NOTE: on my website below I have many more names than just those that were used in the paper, including those who have not signed any statement either way, and names that I have added since the paper was written. First reactions at The Guardian, CanWest News Service via Vancouver Sun, Science Magazine, Union of Concerned Scientists DeSmogBlog Climate Progress …
Yes, he has many more names… Be afraid, be very, very afraid: repent, convert or else?
The best line is : “including those who have not signed any statement either way”
And U of Toronto is paying this little green Beria…

TomRude
June 22, 2010 12:47 pm

Prall’s Disclaimer: “Views expressed on this site are my own and do not represent the position of my employer.”
YET the website is http://www.eecg.utoronto.ca/~prall/climate/index.html

James McClellan
June 22, 2010 12:48 pm

That’s one of the finest pieces of science writing I’ve ever seen. I’m going to use it in tutorials! Thank-you, Dr Pielke!

June 22, 2010 12:50 pm

These folks had better be careful, because the worm might turn.
Italy has just indicted scientists for failing to predict an earthquake. What if an anti-Obama is elected and decides to go after climate scientists who failed to predict global cooling? They should keep in mind that the internet never forgets.

Eddie
June 22, 2010 12:55 pm

Why give a no-name AGW believer any air time just because they haphazardly put together a ‘black-list’?

June 22, 2010 12:57 pm

Just how the counting goes in our country, the Czech Republic. On this page by one author of the libelous paper (Prall)
http://www.eecg.utoronto.ca/~prall/climate/skeptic_authors_table.html
you will find four Czech flags. Your humble correspondent is listed as the 23rd most cited climate scientist on this planet. 😉
If you look at the flags, the Czech team has two deniers – myself with citation counts {344,228,170,150} [total 892] and the trained climate scientist Petr Chýlek with {160,131,106,103} [total 500] – and two alarmists – Jiří Blumel with {2,0,0,0} [total 2] citations and Josef Zbořil with {1,0,0,0} [total 1] citation. Guess who is better! Well, the Czech skeptics (892+500=1392) are more achieved by nearly three orders of magnitude than the Czech alarmists (2+1=3). 🙂
For more comments of mine, see
http://motls.blogspot.com/2010/06/black-list-study-heretics-are.html

Dave Andrews
June 22, 2010 1:00 pm

Let’s not forget that Stephen Schneider contributed two chapters to ‘Global Warming:The Greenpeace Report’ published by the Oxford University Press in 1990.
With his other well known quote about massaging the message, one cannot say he is not a ‘campaigning’ scientist who might just have a certain amount of bias.

wsbriggs
June 22, 2010 1:06 pm

Eddie says:
June 22, 2010 at 12:55 pm
“Why give a no-name AGW believer any air time just because they haphazardly put together a ‘black-list’?”
I believe that the question was answered quite well in the “Mikado”. Any time one of the believers designates their self “Lord High Executioner”, we should all be very, very aware. They want control and subservience, they will accept nothing less, and they will direct, violence toward those who fight the control, or refuse to be subservient. He’s just flagged the extremists into action.

Enneagram
June 22, 2010 1:07 pm

Really they have made a poor, lazy or biased research of non-believers….they are by the hundred thousands.

Joe Spencer
June 22, 2010 1:07 pm

What is it they say, about people who need to make lists ?

Ray
June 22, 2010 1:07 pm

Is Al Gore on the list? Does he count as a “climate scientist” or a “climate moron”?

June 22, 2010 1:10 pm

This will make it a lot easier for the Big Oil Companies to keep track of the people to whom they’re sending all those cheques.

JaSu
June 22, 2010 1:10 pm

On the blacklist, it has most, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th # of cites per Google Scholar. Al Gore is a senior adviser to Google.

Enneagram
June 22, 2010 1:14 pm

There is an spanish language saying: “He who goes to bed with kids wakes up peed”
These bedwetters are getting worrisome.

Bill
June 22, 2010 1:21 pm

Some people politicize everything. They have tried to politicize literature classes, religion classes, history classes, etc. Now it is the turn of science to be politicized. It is because they see everything through a political prism and can see no reality outside their narrow minds. They are so focused that they think all questions can be settled by political methods, when those methods obviously don’t apply.

June 22, 2010 1:22 pm

The simple fact that such lists are being created demonstrates that the “listers” are insecure in their positions to begin with. Soon there will be lists of “listers” and other such foolishness.

John from CA
June 22, 2010 1:24 pm

Thanks,
Your link to the U. S. Senate Minority Report: “More Than 700 International Scientists Dissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims [2008-2009]” is great.
One has to seriously question if any Scientist (other then the authors) currently support the IPCC conclusions. Odd that they claim a “majority” of consensus when there clearly isn’t one.
If they continue with the blacklist nonsense, they are likely to find themselves in early retirement.
Regards,
John from CA

Athelstan
June 22, 2010 1:28 pm

Hmm, he’s no expert, probably was put up to it by someone behind the scenes.
http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2010/06/22/lawrence-solomon-google-scholar-at-the-academy/

Jim Cripwell
June 22, 2010 1:41 pm

Richard Courtney over on Yahoo’s Climate Skeptics has suggested that we develop some sort of icon that can identify us as deniers and contrarians. I think this would be a terrific idea. But my design skills are abysmal.

Andrew30
June 22, 2010 1:54 pm

Enneagram says: June 22, 2010 at 1:07 pm
“Really they have made a poor, lazy or biased research of non-believers”
I think you have that wrong.
They have not made a poor, lazy or biased research; they have made a Computer Model of a first approximation of a typical non-believer.
Then they fed in the international telephone listings and adjusted the Model until the output list matched the pre-determined outcome. Don’t you understand anything about climate scientology?
Research is so old school, too much work, all that messy data. Who needs it?
Computer Models is where it’s at, clear you mind, loose the pencil, get with the times!

Ray
June 22, 2010 1:57 pm

In the mean time, the daily mean temperature and climate north of the 80th northern parallel will barely make it above zero Celsius this year.

June 22, 2010 1:59 pm

I looked in vain for my name on this list, but I was overwhelmed by the data. Who knew that there were over 500 “deniers”? Aren’t there supposed to be many fewer?
I did notice the entry in line 233, however. I know a Peter Oliver who is in fact a kiwi (as alleged here), and I know of another who is a British mathematician. The Peter Oliver I know could not possibly be the one intended here, and the mathematician (who gets about 90% of the citations on Google) looks wrong too. Then I scrolled to the right, to check the usually hidden columns. Specialty = geology doesn’t fit either, and “retired research scientist” must refer to someone else altogether.
The Wikipedia links don’t appear to be helpful. They are present whether the alleged denier is in Wikipedia or not. There are in fact two Wikipedia links, the first of which appears to link to a disambiguation page. For Peter Oliver, the most plausible Wiki links are to a footballer and a rock star wannabe. Do you think that’s who they meant?
All in all, I think I prefer real science to statistics and tables.

bob
June 22, 2010 2:00 pm

First they make lists. Then, they make rules. Then, they gag their competition. Then they …

June 22, 2010 2:00 pm

Why does anyone take Schneider seriously after he admitted that he believes it is OK to fool people:
Stephen Schneider of the National Center for Atmospheric Research described the scientists’ dilemma this way: “On the one hand, as scientists, we are ethically bound to the scientific method, in effect promising to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but-which means that we must include all the doubts, the caveats, the ifs, ands, and buts. On the other hand, we are not just scientists but; human beings as well. And like most people we’d like to see the world a better place, which in this context translates into our working to reduce the risk of potentially disastrous climatic change. To do that we need to get some broadbased support, to capture the public’s imagination. That, of course, entails getting loads of media coverage. So we have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements, and make little mention of any doubts we might have. DISCOVER OCTOBER 1989, Page 47, Bold Added
I have a few more of these justifications for lying to the public at: http://www.sustainableoregon.com/oktolie.html
Thanks
JK

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