The Beeville Science Fair Hoax – but look at the story the data tells

@Rutter
“…interesting trend.”
See the recent post from Dr. Spencer.
No wonder Algore thought it was millions of degrees below the surface of the earth. If every time the temperature goes up it’s anthropogenic and down it’s natural variation, it’ll soon be millions of degrees on the surface, too!

TomRude says: June 8, 2010 at 4:41 pm “This re-inventing the past data is a common issue in Europe . . .”
Didn’t the CRU destroy all original data, leaving only the processed data available for reference?

kim says:
June 8, 2010 at 6:30 pm
sky @ur momisugly 6:06
“I agree, but read Judy’s entry now at the tail end of the lost glacier data thread. She says no original data has been lost and that two separate efforts are underway to recreate HadCru. So, we needn’t wait a century for better data.”
Sigh,
Kim, if the original data is preserved, then there isn’t much to do. Have Judith send it to me and I’ll post it here and at Climate Audit. Well, it doesn’t have to be me, there are more people here and there (at Climate Audit) that are more than capable of putting the data into a coherent format. The last thing we need is someone “recreating” data to fit their views. Just Google Ms. Judith to see her views. Perhaps she’s changed her point of view, we all do from time to time, but I’ll remain skeptical until I see raw data.

Alan Cheetham says:
June 8, 2010 at 6:20 pm
NOAA GHCN database:
Beeville Chase/NAAS and Beevilee 5NE unadjusted
Beeville 5NE Unadjusted and Adjusted
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Thank you!
Maybe them there rural cowboys in the Texas farm and ranch country back before 1950 had to be “uncorrected” by Hansen’s GISS for NOT having an Urban Heat Island?

speaking of hoaxes, this is all from the philippines’ media today:
Climate change ‘a moral issue’ – ex-US vice president Al Gore
He even quoted from the Bible, saying, “Love thy neighbor.” Gore, who was once congressman of Tennessee in America’s so-called Bible Belt, quoted from the Good Book several times, even though he noted that he was not proselytizing.
“If we are doing harm to someone who’s [present] here, then we would stop,” Gore said. “If we do mortal harm on others [who’s] not here, that’s a moral issue as well.”
He said that people today would have to answer to future generations, especially given overwhelming evidence that business as usual has contributed to rising carbon dioxide emissions that were now at alarming levels. The Nobel Prize winner added that other pieces of evidence on global warming include more severe storms, drought in others because of increased evaporation caused by warmer temperatures, melting polar ice caps and other glaciers also resulting in raising levels, and potentially cataclysmic events…
Gore said that it was not yet too late to reverse the harmful effects of climate change, citing the opinion of scientists whom he trusts.
If God has given the people the technology to destroy the Earth, “surely we can do something,” he explained…
The polar ice caps—a disturbing large part has already melted—can come back, Gore added. But if people continue not doing enough, climate change will eventually be irreversible, he explained…..
http://www.manilatimes.net/index.php/component/content/article/42-rokstories/19120-climate-change-a-moral-issue–ex-us-vice-president-al-gore
Gore draws crowds to climate change lecture
He said that aside from the natural cycle of melting ice caps, statistics show that climate change does not move in a linear direction.
Gore cited as proof the sudden spikes in temperatures in the last few years. He even warned that the Philippines is not spared from the disasters made worse by climate change. Gore said storms “Ondoy” and “Pepeng” are some of the examples…
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/06/09/10/gore-draws-crowds-climate-change-lecture
Climate crusader gets warm welcome
Though basically weaving the same urgent cautionary tale and messages of hope, about a third of Gore’s almost two-hour presentation presented material not found in the 2006 documentary.
These included images and references as fresh as May this year, like that on the Gulf of Mexico oil spill and massive, unprecedented floodings in urban America and Asia….
“Here in the Philippines you had a series of storms,” Gore said, adding that he purposely did not include more images since they may be too painful to bear for his local audience…
For the next two hours, Gore held the SMX viewers in rapt attention with images and charts hammering down apocalyptic warnings: ancient glaciers receding if not totally vanishing in a matter of decades, lakes and rivers drying up, stronger storms, droughts in areas where there used to be none, and flooding in towns where residents were too complacent to think about getting a “flood insurance.”
The melting polar ice caps, if not slowed down, will raise sea levels to the point where “the map of the world will have to be redrawn,” he said.
On a subtler but still ominous scale, global warming and resulting “shifts in the seasons” have led to the resurgence of diseases that were once declared under control, and the emergence of new viruses, as in the case of SARS (Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome).
“I was told by an agricultural expert in the Philippines that it has become more difficult here to predict when to plant,” Gore added…
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/nation/view/20100609-274647/Climate-crusader-gets-warm-welcome

netdr says: …….. June 8, 2010 at 6:05 pm ……
Re the Albany, Texas temp data I mentioned above, search for the “raw GHCN data + USHCN corrections” does not yield the graph I used to see two years ago, which exhibited a very monotonous 1-degC cooling trend from 1892 to 2007. The current graph is a tilted hockey stick, being in no way similar to the good old one. Does this mean that the graph I was familiar with two years ago was “raw GHCN data” before “USHCN corrections”, and is no more searcheable ??

Stepping aside frm the “is it a hoax or not?” question, is the DATA in the attached graphic correct?
That is, is the only warming noted in Beeville’s unadjusted data from station moves and and instrument changes?

James Sexton says:
To do your own area go to:”
I would if I could netdr. When I click on Florida on the map, I get stations in Mexico.
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Exactly where you click on the map matters.
I clicked on Jacksonville [approximately] and got OCALA and JacksonvilleNAS etc.
Play around with it a little it is easy to use.
Actually to be honest I got the idea from a kid’s science fair project and liked it.
How is that for full disclosure ?
To do your own area go to:
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/station_data/
Select adjusted or unadjusted
Click on your location on the map. [It is a little delicate so be as precise as you can]
Please share what you find with us.
Oh yes I borrowed the information on small cities UHI from Dr Spencer. It makes sense when you think about it.

pat says:
June 8, 2010 at 7:37 pm
“speaking of hoaxes, this is all from the philippines’ media today:
Climate change ‘a moral issue’ – ex-US vice president Al Gore
He even quoted from the Bible, saying, “Love thy neighbor.”
He said that people today would have to answer to future generations, especially given overwhelming evidence …”
If he’d actually read the Bible, then he’d know future generations isn’t to whom we answer.

REPLY: Cut him some slack, he’s not a US citizen, he’s writing in a second language. -A
I am learning Spanish, and I can tell you the difference in grammar style is pretty marked, just as a side note. English must be a pain to learn as a second language.

Regarding references to NASA/GISS and GHCN temperature records in general, according to their web documentation, even the “raw” data has been somewhat adjusted. It’s been a while since I thoroughly read the documents, so I don’t remember exactly what the adjustments are, but the “raw” data is minimally adjusted.
The only truly raw web data is the USHCN raw available at:
ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/ushcn/v2/monthly/
Read the readme.txt for an explanation of what the files contain, and the file formats.
I’ve written some routines to graph data from these files, and find the truly raw data a good starting point for sanity checks of US temperatures. I haven’t found any equivalent files available for GHCN data.

REPLY: Cut him some slack, he’s not a US citizen, he’s writing in a second language. -A
I could tell by his name, Ecotretas, which isn’t commonly encountered in English, unlike the names Billy, Bob, or Billy Bob.