MOSCOW, April 23 (UPI) — A Russian scientist says the Arctic may be getting colder, not warmer, which would hamper the international race to discover new mineral fields.
An Arctic cold snap that began in 1998 could last for years, freezing the northern marine passage and making it impassable without icebreaking ships, said Oleg Pokrovsky of the Voeikov Main Geophysical Observatory.
“I think the development of the shelf will face large problems,” Pokrovsky said Thursday at a seminar on research in the Polar regions.
Scientists who believe the climate is warming may have been misled by data from U.S. meteorological stations located in urban areas, where dense microclimates creates higher temperatures, RIA Novosti quoted Pokrovsky as saying. “Politicians who placed their bets on global warming may lose the pot,” Pokrovsky said.
h/t to CTM
where have all the trolls gone???
I’m curious about the Arctic cold snap that began in 1998. Is the Arctic really in a cold snap? Is it a cold snap relative to the 1998 “peak?” Is the Russian Arctic in a cold snap that began in 1998?
Those pesky details. Anybody know of an article that expands upon this?
I like how Steven Goddard has even distanced himself from the nonsence this post is spreading.
Holger Dansk (13:45:11) :
where have all the trolls gone???
They may be stuck in that now 22 day old, 9 year record high Arctic ice cover.
Thank you.
pgosselin (13:10:44) :
here it is in german;
http://de.rian.ru/science/20100423/126040500.html
Anthony
Please check your source. It may be badly interpreted. Your story says.
An Arctic cold snap that began in 1998 could last for years, freezing the northern marine passage and making it impassable
The link given by pgosselin says Google interpreted:-
Since about 1998 the climate cool off. “There will, of course, no ice, but temperatures will fall to the level of the cold decade from 1950 to 1960,”
Who would have thought that the red arctic on the GISS plots were due to an ‘M’ ?
hoho!
The revenge of the ‘M’eteorologists over the Climate Alarmists.
20-30 years is about the length of a cooling phase in an oceanic multidecal oscillation. And when has the northern marine passage been open outside of the crest of a warming phase?
Pretty safe predictions, I’d say.
OT, but I do not seem to be able to open the Tips and Notes part of the website. Internet Explorer crashes each time I click on it. Any ideas?
REPLY: More memory, Firefox
Holger Dansk (13:45:11) : “where have all the trolls gone???”
Evaporated with the sunspots.
Pascvaks (13:15:34) :…For the peruvian currency Sol (Sun) it’s S/2.82 per US$..where you can choose from 32°C to minus 25°C, also where you can drive a car from sea level to 5050 meters high in a 120 kms.(75 miles) ride.
Hey John Galt, why not just give your motor design away, that will solve all the carbon emision problems.
Thanks, wasn’t memory?? Firefox works fine.
Urban Heat Insulation is not End-of-World.
End-of-World is when Urban run out of fuel in middle of Ice Age.
John Galt (13:48:30) : About the 55-60 years temperatures cycle (from UN FAO Org.)
ftp://ftp.fao.org/docrep/fao/005/y2787e/y2787e08.pdf
Another Russian paper:
http://www.giurfa.com/abdusamatov2.pdf
Oleg Pokrovsky on Ice extent:
http://www.arcus.org/search/seaiceoutlook/2009_outlook/july_report/downloads/pdf/panarctic/6_Pokrovsky_JulyReport_JuneData.pdf
Of course, Mr. Gore and his friends at IPCC will claim that this is a plot funded by Big Oil/the Russian Mafia/Mrs. Putin’s hairdresser (choose any one/any two/all three) to discredit Mr. Gore’s politica……er…..scientific truth.
sarc. off (I hope).
MartinGAtkins (14:08:07) :
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Anthony
Please check your source. It may be badly interpreted. Your story says.
An Arctic cold snap that began in 1998 could last for years, freezing the northern marine passage and making it impassable
The link given by pgosselin says Google interpreted:-
Since about 1998 the climate cool off. “There will, of course, no ice, but temperatures will fall to the level of the cold decade from 1950 to 1960,”
Actually it’s google’s translator that’s wrong…it interpreted Eiszeit
(Ice Age) as ice….
„Es wird natürlich keine Eiszeit geben, doch die Temperaturen werden auf den Stand des kalten Jahrzehnts von 1950 bis 1960 fallen“, sagte Pokrowski, …
roughly, “Naturally there won’t be an Ice Age, but (nevertheless) the temperatures will fall to the levels of the cold decade(s) from 1950 to 1960″…
REPLY: The source is UPI shown in the article. United Press.
http://www.upi.com/Science_News/2010/04/23/Scientist-says-Arctic-getting-colder/UPI-94431272034113/
-A
The alternative translation would suggest someone has their wires crossed. Only a nut or a mistranslation would claim the arctic has been in a ten year cold snap.
John Galt (13:42:22) :
With better economic times, will concern for climate change rebound? Will people see Cap And Trade as more affordable and therefore less objectionable when jobs recover? Or has skepticism really taken hold?
I’m an optimist. Real scientists, encouraged by our friend Anthony, will actually begin to understand enough climate science that the AGW theory will be shown to be wrong. At the same time, enough intelligent folks will recognize that we cannot spend our way to prosperity, and our government will stop throwing money away. This might take a few years, so be patient.
While you’re waiting, send Anthony a few bucks to help him with this effort, and please also send money to the candidates that you support.
Could happen.
But it seems that we don’t have to learn how to scream that “the debate is over” in Russian.
8 inches of snow in Denver today. Must be some sneaky kids had a school prayer answered. They go home early today!!!
Like Romm said, permanent heat and droughts in the southwest.
mjk (13:52:54) :
I don’t disagree with this quote from the article.
“Politicians who placed their bets on global warming may lose the pot,” Pokrovsky said.
Didn’t Siberia have record cold this year? That said the Russians may do things differently, but the know what they are doing….
They are still spacers while we examine our navel…
NZ Willy (14:16:21) :
Holger Dansk (13:45:11) : “where have all the trolls gone???”
Evaporated with the sunspots.
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I suppose all those who believe that AGWT is likely correct are considered trolls on this site?
Anyway, this very small news item, posted at all the AGW skeptic sites on the seems to have no data, research, or long terms study to back it up. Be that as it may, I’m willing to look at this “scientist’s” data and research if there is any…but there probably isn’t any at all, though I’m sure it will show up on Rush Limbaugh’s program as “evidence there is no melting” going on in the arctic.