The Catlin team has been on the ice for 10 days, and has traveled a total of 17 miles so far as the crow flies. At that rate, they will reach the North Pole in September, except that the ice gets too dangerous by early May and they will have to evacuate. Their current position is 85 47 N 78 22 W, after starting at 85 32 N 77 44 W on March 15. Their web site uses a cool Google earth plugin to map their tortuous route – seen below.
http://www.catlinarcticsurvey.com/GoogleEarth.aspx
The Google Earth map below shows how far they have traveled in reference to the North Pole. Note that their starting point and current position are almost right on top of each other at that scale.
The team have been making lots of noise about how unusual the ice conditions are in the Arctic, based on the tiny fraction of the Arctic they have navigated.
“The conditions we’re experiencing are unlike anything I’ve seen in any of the nineteen expeditions I’ve previously been on,” says Martin Hartley. “There are great swathes of only recently refrozen open water peppered with small snow-covered islands of ice in the distance. I wonder if this is a sign of things to come for Arctic travel?”
The map below shows just how insignificant their coverage has been. Their starting and end points appear to be right on top of each other at Arctic scale.
The Arctic Ocean covers 5,427,000 square miles. Catlin 2010 has seen maybe ten square miles of it, meaning they have sampled less than 0.0002% of the ice. They also choose to travel on refrozen leads because they are flatter and smoother, so their sampling is not random. No serious scientist would attempt to draw any conclusions about the quality of the ice based on a cherry picked sample representing less than 0.0002% of the Arctic, but this is no ordinary scientific expedition.
Same story, different year. From 2009 : Can the Catlin Arctic Survey Team Cover 683 km in the Next 21 Days?
Catlin Team Averaging 1.7 Miles Per Day – Only 295 Miles Left to Go!
The Catlin team has been on the ice for 10 days, and has traveled a total of 17 miles so far as the crow flies. At that rate, they will reach the North Pole in September, except that the ice gets too dangerous by early May and they will have to evacuate. Their current position is 85 47 N 78 22 W, after starting at 85 32 N 77 44 W on March 15. Their web site uses a cool Google earth plugin to map their tortuous route – seen below.
http://www.catlinarcticsurvey.com/GoogleEarth.aspx
The Google Earth map below shows how far they have traveled in reference to the North Pole. Note that their starting point and current position are almost right on top of each other at that scale.
The team have been making lots of noise about how unusual the ice conditions are in the Arctic, based on the tiny fraction of the Arctic they have navigated.
“The conditions we’re experiencing are unlike anything I’ve seen in any of the nineteen expeditions I’ve previously been on,” says Martin Hartley. “There are great swathes of only recently refrozen open water peppered with small snow-covered islands of ice in the distance. I wonder if this is a sign of things to come for Arctic travel?”
The map below shows just how insignificant their coverage has been. Their starting and end points appear to be right on top of each other at Arctic scale.
The Arctic Ocean covers 5,427,000 square miles. Catlin 2010 has seen maybe ten square miles of it, meaning they have sampled less than 0.00002% of the ice. They also choose to travel on refrozen leads because they are flatter and smoother, so their sampling is not random. No serious scientist would attempt to draw any conclusions about the quality of the ice based on a cherry picked sample representing less than 0.00002% of the Arctic, but this is no ordinary scientific expedition.
Same story, different year. From 2009 : Can the Catlin Arctic Survey Team Cover 683 km in the Next 21 Days?
Follow the money!
From Stephen Catlin – chief executive of the Catlin Group
25 March, 2010
http://www.royalgazette.com/rg/Article/article.jsp?articleId=7da3ca730030009§ionId=65
Find something!!! Last year Catlin found thinner, first year ice while Polar 5 found the ice to be thicker than expected.
Seek and ye shal find. Follow the money.
http://www.catlinarcticsurvey.com/faq.aspx
What about the fuel oil drums used by the resupply plane(s)? Will they be picked up later – again?
What does “disposed of accordingly” entail?
Al Gore’s Holy Hologram (12:57:00) :
Monty Python did a better expedition to Kilimanjaro
Almost as funny as this band of intrepid celebs, including the aptly named Lupe Fiasco, who ventured to the top of Kilimanjaro to highlight something or other. Note the way they are all garbed, which, since the climb occurred in January during the middle of the SH summer, should have alerted these dopes to a major flaw in the scare stories about AGW causing the Kilimanjaro glacier to disappear. But that’s probably asking too much.
Actually, I envy the Catlin team. I’ve always wanted to do some expedition participation in the Arctic and other places.
Well planned and properly funded I think it surely is a great adventure.
Why do it? Because it is there. Great tradition in expeditions . . . and fun.
I (we) may mock their reasons and baloney and publicity antics, but for me it would fun to be on a similar expedition. Green with jealousy [not green environmentally or with green US$ Big Oil money]. : )
John
oops, forgot the link
http://www.summitonthesummit.com/#/basecamp/.
Tell a couple of rednecks that Polar bears taste like chicken, put them on a pair of four-wheelers towing beer-sleds and they would have been to the pole and back by now (complaining bitterly that Polar bears do NOT taste like chicken).
Or you could have told a group of republicans that there are big tax cuts for the rich at the north pole and they’d be there by now. They’d be back by now if they were told there is no trickle down to it.
Of course you could also say to a group of democrats that there’s loads of insurance company money… hmmm, wait there is.
These are typical paid professional enviro-hobbyists who tinker around and deliver absolutely nothing meaningful or useful.
Oregon is chuck full of them at nearly every government and academia institution.
They take their useless busy “work” product, call them studies and report concocted analysis and conclusions which serves only to legitimize their work and demonstrate to funding sources a need for more of it.
Then it’s off to more hobby play time.
How many barrels of fuel and oil will they dump this time?
“Tell a couple of rednecks that Polar bears taste like chicken, put them on a pair of four-wheelers towing beer-sleds and they would have been to the pole and back by now (complaining bitterly that Polar bears do NOT taste like chicken).”
No, they will be complaining bitterly that Polar Bears do NOT taste like rattlesnake.
On another note, I am wondering why they don’t just START at the North Pole, and walk away from it. They could then just map a straight line relative to the position of the North Pole when they start walking, and regardless of what the ice does underneath them, they could take their samples at regular intervals, in relation to the ice sheet itself. As it is, they are chasing a moving object. They simply need to move in relation to some physical zero point.
Henry chance (08:01:20) :
“Tiger Woods was sponsored by Nike and recently did some studies in Anthropology that covered a larger area sample field study. The Woods group also dealt with warming issues and fear of extinction of a species.”
Was this a Woods Hole expedition, by any chance?
Another year… same idiots! … and still ice up there.
“They also choose to travel on refrozen leads because they are flatter and smoother”
I hope they discover open water under a weakened refrozen lead, by falling through — now that would be proof!
By the way, did they ever clean up the garbage they left up there last year?
Controller: Having just glanced at the route taken could any member just deviate two metres to the left and do us all a favour by tilting ‘Spirit’ 35 degrees south.
Or north.
Did I hear east….? I made that 4:2 concensus……
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Ed Murphy (19:50:43) :
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Of course you could also say to a group of democrats that there’s loads of insurance company money… hmmm, wait there is.
Yes, and at around 5% profit margins on health insurance those companies are certainly swimming in it.
Of course, they expect to soon have lots more, as they made certain the health care “reform” specified that everyone must have insurance, including many healthy young people who skip it to save money for minor things like housing and transportation. Thus they will be acquiring an influx of premiums from those who won’t be using anywhere near as much in benefits, if any.
Notice how quiet the big oil companies have been about carbon regulating legislation, not directly running any ads opposing it? Notice how quiet the big insurance companies have been about health care reform legislation, not directly running any ads opposing it?
Notice how the big oil companies stay silent even when they are being demonized by the progressives? Notice how the big insurance companies stay silent even when they are being demonized by the progressives?
But of course it is actually Big Oil that is funding these climate change deniers who seek to stop the legislation and deny there is a problem. But of course it is actually Big Insurance that is funding these health care reform deniers who seek to stop the legislation and deny there is a problem.
The only way to fight Big Oil and save the planet is for you, the little person, to support the progressives in establishing government control of carbon emissions. The only way to fight Big Insurance and save America is for you, the little person, to support the progressives in establishing government control of health care providing.
Don’t listen to the massive disinformation campaign funded by Big Oil! Climate change is a real problem! Don’t listen to the massive disinformation campaign funded by Big Insurance! Health care is a real problem!
Fight the power! Support the progressives in fighting this problem by supporting more government control!
Their route looks more like a moebius trip.
To avoid future embarrassment, next year they should start at the north pole and walk back.
What? They’re not looking for the fortress of solitude?
I must have them mixed up with another serious expedition….
symonsezwlky (15:24:23) :
“Wonder if they will be celebrating Earth Hour? http://wp.me/pduTk-2uH”
I’ll definitely be celebrating Earth Hour – by turning my lights on. Thanks to WWF for giving me an opportunity to show my utter contempt for this anti-science nonsense.
As for the Catlin expedition: like zombies, these green fundamentalist idiots just keep coming back….
Chris
Sorry but the Top Gear impresses me more.
Onw word, sorry two words … Cognitive dissonance!!!
Yet the entire Arctic can be, and has been, surveyed accurately at low risk by aircraft. This has been done by ‘Polar 5’ a German research aircraft which reported ice ‘twice as thick as expected’. see:
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/10662
But the unscientific Catlin team are successfully flooding the internet with tags of their own that it is difficult to find actual scientific research, results.
@Larry Cullen Sheldon (20:06:27):
No, what do you think. Look at their route. They are searching the barrels they left last year.
“The conditions we’re experiencing are unlike anything I’ve seen in any of the nineteen expeditions I’ve previously been on,” says Martin Hartley. “There are great swathes of only recently refrozen open water peppered with small snow-covered islands of ice in the distance. I wonder if this is a sign of things to come for Arctic travel?”
Only if future Arctic travellers also walk in circles, continuously looking at the same terrain from different observation points.
Lemme guess — the point man is using a mag compass…
John Whitman (19:25:45) :
You should read through the logs from their 2009 trip. It was complete misery for everyone. Frostbite, hypothermia, insomnia, wet sleeping bags, cabin fever, disorientation, failure, bone chilling cold. Why do you think Pen Hadow stayed home this year?
Hopefully they wont leave so much trash behind this time. I notice that there are even fewer ways to verify their position beyond them telling us. I could stick a marker in the ice about where they supposedly started and it just might drift to the pole. Hmmmmmm…