"The Science is Scuttled" – NASA climate page, suckered by IPCC, deletes their own 'moved up' glacier melting date reference

And the purge begins.

Here’s the NASA Climate Change “evidence” page where they list a series of visual earth topics that support AGW as factual. In the sidebar they have heavy reference on IPCC AR4.

click for NASA website

Scrolling down through the page you come across the section that talks about glacier melt. Here is the screencap of that section BEFORE (courtesy of Google Cache) and AFTER as it appears now:

BEFORE- from Google Cache - click to enlarge

Yellow highlight mine. Note not only did they cite the now famous false glacier melting alarm from IPCC AR4, they moved it up five years to 2030!

Feel free to check it yourself with Google cache here. I also saved the entire cached web page as a PDF file here: climate.nasa

Here is the NASA climate page after the recent change:

AFTER - click to enlarge

A big hat tip to WUWT reader “Jaymam” for spotting this. I wonder how many other pages are now going to start seeing IPCC references disappearing?

UPDATE: While the discovery by “Jaymam” was independent, it appears that the UK Register first posted on this on Jan 20th, from a tip from their reader, Charles W., who was the first to notice NASA rewriting history with the glaciers:

Spotted 19th January.  Posted 20th January:
As the article mentions, at the same time, a bunch of celebs were on top of Kilimanjaro crying for the ice.
h/t to Andrew Orlowski of the Register.

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pyromancer76
January 24, 2010 5:54 am

Anthony, look what you (and your associates) have created. I got up early this a.m. to do some work and got sidetracked (willingly) into the post and comments: “The Science is Scuttled”. I am heartened by the increasing number of ideas of citizen protests through laws already on the books, potential law suits, and superb ridicule of the anti-West; anti-development; greedy ACTIVISTS masquerading as scientists or environmental do-gooders. More power to us all.

Mike Bryant
January 24, 2010 6:02 am

The dead corpse of climate “science” is composed of half-truths, money and corruption. As the lightning bolts of truth strike NASA, CRU and the IPCC, the Media, the Government and the “Scientists”, continue screaming, “IT’S ALIVE… IT’S ALIIIIIVE!!!!!!”
It’s high time the pitchforks come out….

January 24, 2010 6:08 am

Still, still even as these manifold reports of IPCC and the climate data base manipulations unfold, still the fundamental causitive factor remains operative and even florishes. It is a view of the world which is profoundly anti-man.
John

Vincent
January 24, 2010 6:10 am

“So now it’s 2030.”
Of course this is based on solid science: AR4 2007 it’s 2035; post AR4 it’s worse than we thought, therefore it must in fact be 2030. Post glaciergate it becomes 2350.
That’s how science works.

Rob
January 24, 2010 6:12 am

Are the modelS accurate, NOT according to proffessor Qin-Bin-Lu.
The ozone hole did it,
Professor Lu, a path-breaking scientist in the field of ozone protection, made his CO2 discovery by accident — he was looking for culprits in the formation of the ozone hole over Antarctica. A chief suspect was CO2: Climate models produced by climatologists showed that CO2 would have devastating effects on the ozone layer, significantly enlarging the ozone hole over Antarctica and dramatically enlarging it over the Arctic. But when Dr. Lu compared the imagined output of the climate models with the actual measurements taken real-time by satellites and weather balloons, the THE MODELS TURNED OUT TO BE SOARING FAILURES.
http://www.financialpost.com/m/story.html?id=2422548&s=Opinion

Henry chance
January 24, 2010 6:15 am

There have been countless claims calling deniers being like the tobacco companies creating deniers. Tobacco is healthy they said. It can’t be bad. Algore was using this attempt to smear a lot. Well Algore
Your family was raising tobacco for years. Because of the money. You fly an excessively large personal jet because it takes you to speak and make big buck$$$

Rob
January 24, 2010 6:22 am

Professor Lu`s study could be undermined by the the climategate scandal,
Dr Lu’s study is now published and the reviews he has received to date have been favourable but he may find himself writing a postscript in three year’s time. Like hundreds of other scientists around the world, Dr. Lu may have unwittingly relied on invalid data for a portion of his study. His real-time satellite and balloon data, which shows CO2 does not cause climate change, is not in dispute. NOT SO for the historical temperature data, on which he based his estimates of how much global cooling we face as Earth’s temperatures return to their historic pre-CFC levels. “My temperature data comes from the UK – the Climate Research Unit at East Anglia University,” he reveals when questioned.
http://energy.probeinternational.org/climate-change/the-ozone-hole-did-it.

January 24, 2010 6:29 am

Note that5 the original GISS page showed them all melting by 2030.
The original “speculative” remark to a journalist may have said 2035, or it may be another report which said 2350 with the digits accidentally transposed. This metamorphosised in the IPCC report to “2035 or even earlier” which in turn GISS took down to the nearest round number of 2030.
This game of Chinese whispers is common across the alarmosphere where everybody quotes everybody else as a prime source & regularly misquotes them – always in the same direction.

POUNCER
January 24, 2010 6:37 am

Within the decade, Al Gore will return to preaching the dangers of salacious and lascivious lyrics on rock ‘n roll and rap “records”…

red432
January 24, 2010 6:39 am

There must be an alternative explanation. Maybe the glaciers have deep pockets of hot ice which are storing up all the heat and will later release it all at once to cause catastrophic flooding of the Indus valley around about 2035. Give me a couple months to adjust my Fortran code and rerun the models…

Uh, Clem
January 24, 2010 6:39 am

OK, so now the bid is 2030. Do we have a bid for 2025? Going once, going…

Neo
January 24, 2010 6:40 am

The scientist behind the bogus claim in a Nobel Prize-winning UN report that Himalayan glaciers will have melted by 2035 last night admitted it was included purely to put political pressure on world leaders.
Dr Murari Lal also said he was well aware the statement, in the 2007 report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), did not rest on peer-reviewed scientific research.

January 24, 2010 6:43 am

I cannot thank you all enough for keeping up the pressure. That is ‘Anthony and the Moderators’ and all the WUWT contributors readers both old and new.
Let’s get this scam canned before it gets out of hand.
Thank you, thank you, thank you!

AdderW
January 24, 2010 6:44 am

Loving this…
Glaciers not melting at said rate
Wrongly linking global warming to an increase in the number and severity of natural disasters such as hurricanes and floods
Global sea level isn’t rising
what’s up next?

starzmom
January 24, 2010 6:47 am

With NASA’s high level of quality control, I am really, really glad I am not an astronaut!!

Harry
January 24, 2010 6:48 am

Jerry,
“Which is polite-speak for “we don’t know whether glacier shrinkage is very different now compared to earlier”
Sure we do, we have observations of the glaciers on Mt Rainier going back to 1857 and actual measurements going back to 1931. Of course they don’t point to anything ‘unprecedented’ currently happening.
http://www.nps.gov/archive/mora/ncrd/glaciers.htm

K. Bray in Upper California, USA
January 24, 2010 6:52 am

{ D. King (02:07:34) :
Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory will be scrambling
to update this and deprogram our kids…Right? }
re: Mt Kilimanjaro.
The reduced snow pack on Mt. Kilimanjaro can be 100% accounted for by drought conditions. Drought is often mentioned on TV showing starving Africans… is the Mountain somehow exempt from the lack of precipitation ?
If there is not adequate precipitation in freezing weather to restore the snow pack, the snow will continue to recede in the warm season.
To assume the “shrinking” is from “warming” is to ignore other fundamental not related causes.
These “scientists” need to get back to doing science, not propaganda.
I hope the kids can recover from the lousy programming.

Jimi Bostock
January 24, 2010 6:53 am

you might all want to know that our good friends at scepticalscience have posted the following:
“Peer reviewed impacts of global warming
If the IPCC’s mistaken prediction of disappearing Himalayan glaciers taught us anything, it’s that we should always source our information from peer reviewed scientific literature rather than media articles.
Consequently, I’ve spent the weekend overhauling the list of positives and negatives of global warming so that all sources were peer reviewed. The list is by no means comprehensive and I welcome any comments mentioning other impacts of global warming found in peer reviewed papers (good or bad). Please include a link to either the abstract or if possible, the full paper.
Note to skeptics – here is an opportunity to pad out the positive column if you can find peer reviewed papers outlining any benefits of global warming.”
http://www.skepticalscience.com/Peer-reviewed-impacts-of-global-warming.html

kwik
January 24, 2010 7:00 am

Im sure they knew about this report too, and decided it would’nt support their ultimate cause ;
V.K.Raina, Ex. Deputy Director General, Geological Survey of India;
http://moef.nic.in/downloads/public-information/MoEF%20Discussion%20Paper%20_him.pdf

red432
January 24, 2010 7:01 am

Charlie A (00:42:31) :

It appears the Quality of Info procedure is rarely used. NASA has failed to comply with their own regulations

In my experience in academia, industry, and government these sorts of regulations are primarily used to harass people who do not have institutional political power. The people with the power can frequently ignore these rules unless there is transparency and independent outside auditing with the ability to punish infractions or “bottom line” market forces at work.
This is the way the judicial system operates in China, for example. On paper it looks great.

ozspeaksup
January 24, 2010 7:01 am

http://www.iceagenow.com if I remember correctly? has info on Growing glaciers Mt ranier and others in USA and worldwide, about time that! got some press! NZ too. I think Ian Plimers book also confirms it.

kwik
January 24, 2010 7:04 am

There is one problem with the Raina report; Couldnt find a date in it….

oakgeo
January 24, 2010 7:07 am

Warmists sometimes dismiss contrary viewpoints by making the ridiculous assertion that skeptics claim there is a global conspiracy amongst 1000s of climate scientists. Both the strawman and the alleged conspiracy are absurd.
However the fact that the Himalayan glacier boondoggle made it through a working group of dozens of scientists, and a review process that included many more, suggests large scale complicity. All of these scientists have enabled the politicization of the IPCC, and their silence up to this point has been deafening.
But then maybe that’s not surprising, given the wall of silence surrounding the supposed science in Gore’s Academy Award and Nobel Prize winning crockumentary “An Inconvenient Truth”. You don’t need conspiracy when silence is this effective.

P Gosselin
January 24, 2010 7:18 am

“WHERE IS THE NASA THAT PUT MEN ON THE MOON?!”
I’d say it’s in the serious part of NASA, and not in the Fraud Division.
Don’t let one rotten part soil your opinion.

DirkH
January 24, 2010 7:27 am

“Mike Bryant (06:02:10) :
The dead corpse of climate “science” is composed of half-truths, money and corruption. As the lightning bolts of truth strike NASA, CRU and the IPCC, the Media, the Government and the “Scientists”, continue screaming, “IT’S ALIVE… IT’S ALIIIIIVE!!!!!!”
It’s high time the pitchforks come out….

Very vivid picture, thank you 🙂
BTW, i as a european tax payer hope that i will get some nicely fabricated numbers from TERI for our 10 Million Euros. I would like the fabrication to look a little more solid this time, though, and a little more alarming wouldn’t harm either. How about boiling oceans in 2020? Yeah, boiling sounds just right… Now go ahead, make my numbers…

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