And yet…it was claimed to be a “success”. Note to organizers: the media is laughing at you.
Snowstorm squelches climate change protest
By Judy Fahys, The Salt Lake Tribune Updated: 12/30/2009 06:36:58 PM MST
A downtown [Salt Lake City] protest of the climate change talks in Copenhagen became a victim of Wednesday’s snowstorm.
“Not many people showed up because of the blizzard conditions,” said organizer Clea Major, an international studies student at the University of Utah.
It didn’t take long for the six friends to pack up a bullhorn and posters they’d planned to use for their “scream-in,” an outlet for their frustration about the failure of the Copenhagen climate talks earlier this month to curb the pollution blamed for climate change.
Still, they chatted with a few passers-by during the commuter-hour protest near the Gateway, and explained that, blizzard aside, climate change is expected to bring chaos to the global climate, said Major.
She called Wednesday evening’s effort a success and possibly the first in a series. As for the snow, it’s not entirely new; a protest she attended last year in Washington, D.C., suffered a similar fate.
“There is always the irony element,” Major said.
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Here’s the original announcement from KCPW in Salt Lake:
Protesters Scream for Climate Change
12.30.2009 by Elizabeth Ziegler
(KCPW News) Climate change activists will stage a “scream-in” today at the Gateway Mall in downtown Salt Lake City to vent their frustrations about the Copenhagen Accord adopted by global leaders two weeks ago. University of Utah student Cléa Major says the demonstration is intended to call attention to the fact that the accord doesn’t require countries to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.
“Basically we want your average shopper to go home tonight after work and say, ‘Man, you know, I was returning my Christmas gift and there were these people screaming on the sidewalk, you know, what’s that all about?’” Major says. “We wanted to make an impression on people and we wanted to maybe put it in a location where it wasn’t necessarily expected to get people out of the post-Christmas haze to just sort of listen.”
Major sees the Copenhagen Accord as a failure, akin to the cap and trade legislation, The American Clean Energy and Security Act, that activists had hoped would set the tone in Copenhagen. The bill has stalled in the Senate after garnering a narrow margin of support in the House of Representatives this summer. All three of Utah’s Congressmen voted against it.
Major says the scream-in will be cathartic for those participating, who see the Copenhagen Accord as a missed opportunity to reverse climate change.
“We just all felt so helpless, we felt betrayed by this,” Major says. “We felt helpless and we felt furious because it was like we had just been looking to this to be the big thing that could turn it around or at least be a major jumping off point. And it just kind of stalled and failed and now there’s kind of this feeling of we don’t really know where to go next.”
The scream-in takes place at 5:30 p.m. on the northwest corner of 400 West and 200 South at the Gateway Mall.
So whats the suggestion then? That they should wait until summer and scream from Death Valley?
Read this from Mad Lean in the UK Telegraph and you will really want to scream
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/geoffreylean/100020991/copenhagen-action-follows-the-fiasco/
Talk about living in a dream world
Have to post this somewhere before I scream,look what has been turned loose………..
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/6912667/Carousel-frauds-plague-European-carbon-trading-markets.html
Allan M (03:48:27) says:
2000 years ago Chinese intellectuals had a discussion of the role of government (by some definition) in the economy. It was enlightening to discover that fact.
Credentialism is rampant these days but it cannot overcome the fact that 50% of people are below average and that ability and intelligence are highly heritable.
The end is nigh – the of AGW/CC alarmism, that is. Even they must know it, in their heart of hearts. Yet, I suppose the committed ones will soldier on, maybe even rally the troops one last time.
We’re witnessing the end of an error.
Bruce Cobb (10:46:44) : The end is nigh – the of AGW/CC alarmism, that is. Even they must know it, in their heart of hearts. Yet, I suppose the committed ones will soldier on, maybe even rally the troops one last time. We’re witnessing the end of an error.
Dont be so confident. AGW alarmism never was about truth. The battle will be long and hard.
No political leader is on our side. Nor are the political bosses of the scientific committees. Climategatekeeping is alive and well.
“To capture the public imagination … we have to offer up some scary scenarios, make simplified dramatic statements and little mention of any doubts one might have. …Each of us has to decide the right balance between being effective, and being honest.” STEPHEN SCHNEIDER, Stanford Professor of Climatology, lead author of many IPCC reports,Discover Magazine interview, Oct.89
“Unless we announce disasters no one will listen.” SIR JOHN HOUGHTON, first co-chair of the IPCC and lead editor of its first three reports (1990, 1995, 2001), in his 1994 book “Global Warming, The Complete Briefing”
“Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsiblity to bring that about?” MAURICE STRONG, founder of the UN Environment Programme, WEST magazine interview, May.90
“It doesn’t matter what is true, it only matters what people believe is true. … You are what the media define you to be. [Greenpeace] became a myth, and a myth-generating machine.” PAUL WATSON, co-founder of Greenpeace, on the “secret of Greenpeace’s success”, Forbes magazine interview, 11.Nov.91
agree with Bruce Cobb, however Richard got some points too.
Does major realise what the treaty in Copenhagen would have meant? Higher learning does not mean higher intelligence. These people obviously do not believe in research. It is a real sad statement for the condition this world is in, so many are uninformed and unable to use common sense. Makes me feel like screaming “WAKE UP!”….please.
Why is the concept of climate change so hard to grasp when by it’s nature it’s in layman’s terms? The climate systems are changing, I could tell that with only 26 years of observation, the summers are longer, the winters more intense once they arrive, rampant water shortages and desertification is beginning. In short folks, you calling people naive that are (for whatever reason) able to grasp that the world’s climate patterns are rapidly changing. The last serious (and quick) world change was the dark ages after a massive volcanic eruption interupted farming because of darking the sky and changing water fall. We were plagued with shortages, famine, civil unrest, and culture fell into generalized madness. And a time previous to that we can quantify a climate change that changed the face of living things on the planet….oh yeah the dinosaurs were eliminated from the ecosystem. While we wouldn’t have been able to survive if they’d have remained, you’d be stupid not to realize the dominant species, who don’t physically acclimate well, currently on the planet…is us.
KCrann,
Thank you for your comment. In your 26 years of experience I do believe you have it figured out, including how the dinosaurs fit into the ecosystem.
Humans are very fortunate that a nearby supernova or an asteroid took out our scaly competitors, or we would be fighting tooth and nail to keep our kids from being eaten on their way to school. As someone who had to walk barefoot through the snow to school, uphill both ways, I can not imagine having to fend off hungry dinosaurs too.
Your knowledge of the Dark Ages is also comprehensive. As you say, during the Dark Ages the culture fell into generalized madness. We are fortunate that today human nature has changed so radically that we no longer have to fear the ignorance and superstition endemic to that unenlightened time, when governments blamed witches for all manner of ills, and every common weather event, from droughts to hurricanes, was pointed out to all right thinking people as evil omens.
Inhabitants of the Dark Ages did not possess your grasp of the big picture, which is that the climate actually changes. We are more enlightened now, properly placing the blame for climate change on the evil carbon emitters of the West. If not for those selfish reprobates, we know that the climate would always be Goldilocks perfect, never too hot and never too cold.
I know it’s presumptuous of me to ask, but before the next volcanic eruption brings about a new Dark Age, can I have your autograph? Yes, your analysis is that impressive. I would like to have a souvenir of the modern young mind diligently at work; a well educated mind, uncorrupted by the incessant blast of media finger-pointing that blames the Bad People, particularly those in the U.S., for the world’s ills: America evil, China good. I am a simple acolyte, a grasshopper, learning at the feet of the 26 year old Master.
If for any reason I can’t have your autograph, may I print out your analysis for reference from time to time? If I should waver in my quest for carbon justice, I will have your wisdom to steady my hand on the tiller. Thank you for all you do in promoting science on this “Best Science” site.
Sincerely, your admirer, Smokey
(…who is well past his bedtime)
“KCrann (01:45:18) :
[…]The climate systems are changing, I could tell that with only 26 years of observation, the summers are longer, the winters more intense once they arrive, rampant water shortages and desertification is beginning.”
I go along with the intense winters. That the summers are longer now has escaped me but the last few appeared, well, wet. Very much like some summers in the 70ies. KCrann, you didn’t mention anywhere in your post the terms “man-made” or “anthropogenic”. So i guess you do understand that there is natural variability at work here. Climate Change is natural. We need to adapt. Are we on common ground there?
Wow… 26 years of observation… too bad your entire life has been lived in the warm phase of the PDO… your generation should learn alot in the next ten years or so… if it’s not too late. Mike