From the “weather is not climate” department, we have this unusual event in the south of France, in the French Rivera, from Yahoo news:
People are seen on the beach covered by snow in Nice, southeastern France, Saturday, Dec. 19, 2009. Temperature is 3 degrees celcius (37,2 Farenheit).
The above report is only short term, 8 years according tot he website, I’m writing this entry froma Starbucks while traveling so perhaps our readers can find a longer term snow record for Nice, France.
Snow on the French Riviera????
I am an American Expat living in Antibes (Nice) France. I live 5 blocks from the beach, and 3 blocks from Port Vabaun, the 2nd largest yacht port in the world. I thought living here, I would escape the ice and snow of my native Cincinnati, Ohio. Boy was I wrong!!!
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What makes this more astonishing is the snow stands immediately next to the sea. A sea that has historically an average December temp of 8C or 46F. Hmmmm.
Oregon coast is living up to its reputation… its mid 50’s to 60 degrees… beautiful foggy but warm day. However this is a change from the cold of last week, when we were coldest in 40 years or so.
Here is a source for some Nice snow data.
http://www.tutiempo.net/en/Climate/Nice/12-1973/76900.htm
Looks like Dec 2, 1973 had some snowfall.
Wow ! just wow !
Here we have the team’s “Winston Smith”, where the MWP was erased from all further editions of News Speak.
Lawrence Solomon: Wikipedia’s climate doctor
http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpcomment/archive/2009/12/19/lawrence-solomon-wikipedia-s-climate-doctor.aspx
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But the Medieval Warm Period was not so great for some humans in our own time — the same small band that believes the planet has now entered an unprecedented and dangerous warm period. As we now know from the Climategate Emails, this band saw the Medieval Warm Period as an enormous obstacle in their mission of spreading the word about global warming. If temperatures were warmer 1,000 years ago than today, the Climategate Emails explain in detail, their message that we now live in the warmest of all possible times would be undermined. As put by one band member, a Briton named Folland at the Hadley Centre, a Medieval Warm Period “dilutes the message rather significantly.”
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H/T Andrew Bolt
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/climategate_how_the_cabal_controlled_wikipedia/
Jim Owen (14:36:21) :
‘– and then had to shovel my way back into the house.’
Been there, done that. Back in the70s, I lived in Leadville, Co. One year It snowed at least once per month.
France gets 80% of its electricity from nuclear. Cold weather is what the French deserve for not producing their share of CO2.
You know, there was a time that I believed that the planet had warmed up in the 20th century but only as a result of natural causes. Now, I am slowly coming to the conclusion that there was no real global warming at all, anthropogenic or otherwise. It seems now that that it was all a pile of BS.
You got a link to that please?
Never mind, move along…. 🙂
Are you sure it’s not a fake? It’s from the AP. I don’t trust anything from the AP any more.
I voted for an idiot that last time. And I thought I had done my homework! I will not be jumping on anyone’s band wagon next time till I have tripled my homework. The media can paint anyone any color you want to read about. And that is the key. That you want to read about. More hits, more color geared just for you. Buyer beware. Next time, I wouldn’t even vote for Jesus if the media got involved.
Not unusual to find pics on the walls of bars and restaurants in S. France and further south depicting snow (it is unusual). A lot date from the same period and if you are one of those “sceptics”, especially a “cyclical sceptic” you will have no trouble guessing which period.
And Oregon hinterlands are living up to theirs. Never got above 33 degrees at my ranch. Roads are impassable for anyone contemplating quaffing a few at the tavern. So, I am stuck at the ranch drinking the last of the sherry. And it’s Saturday night for gawdsake!
In the “weather is not climate” department, I posted a new article on my blog:
“Is climate more than weather? Is weather just noise?”
http://scienceofdoom.com/2009/12/19/is-climate-more-than-weather-is-weather-just-noise/
Although one cold spell in one place isn’t significant, there have been a lot of comments from the more IPCC inclined community that a year or two of global cooling doesn’t mean anything. “It’s just noise”. But Keith Trenberth (top IPCC scientist) thinks differently. If it’s cooler, it’s really cooler. Where did the heat go? We should be able to explain it. I.e., it isn’t “noise”.
Take a look.
Shameless blog post over.
Pamela Gray (16:31:59) :
I voted for an idiot that last time. And I thought I had done my homework!
But did you read this?
http://www.theonion.com/content/news/black_guy_asks_nation_for_change
Oh it’s nicer
much nicer
In Nice.
Jack in Oregon-used to live in Port Orford and Coos Bay, some of the best weather for driving my convertible Mustang was in January and February.
Though in ’88/’89 and ’92 there were some cold days but not this early.
My wife misses her Rose Garden and Roses in December. But in NE Oregon
zone 5a/b we have little black spot…
This Siberian/Canadian cold has me more than a bit worried..
By the way, I wonder what the folks on the beach are thinking? I think the guy in the surf is taking a leak. The woman looking down and not wanting to touch it is asking, “What the hell is that?” The two dancers are probably smokin so they don’t even know it’s cold, and the crouched person is examining the white stuff up close and personal, “I tried putting it up my nose but it’s too damned cold! Hey, I could put some of this in my wine and actually drink it cold!”
Just keep in mind the proper mantra…
If it’s snow, it’s weather.
If it’s hot, it’s global warming.
Pamela Gray (16:31:59) :
1st, I’m U.K. so maybe shouldn’t comment.
I was originally impressed with Obama, then later, the more I learned, the more I was telling people, “They’ll never vote him in, he HATES America!” You weren’t the only one fooled. I know you’re intelligent but sometimes that works against you.
DaveE.
Ditto.
First, the US measurements are completely unreliable (see Anthony Watts’s Surface Stations Project, http://www.surfacestations.org/ ).
And the indefatigable EM Smith has show how the world’s thermometers have ‘marched’ southward—those that did not sit still while heat-producing airports grew up around them: http://chiefio.wordpress.com/
Then the Russians reveal that CRU cherry-picked their warmest measurements:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/12/16/russian-iea-claims-cru-tampered-with-climate-data-cherrypicked-warmest-stations/#more-14241
Now a paper from 1980 throws all the New Zealand data out:
http://www.investigatemagazine.com/australia/latestissue.pdf
Up to now, even the skeptics have generally admitted the warmist claims that there was some modest overall warming during the 20th century, but it is looking more and more likely that there was in fact—
None.
That’s right, not only is the hypthesis that human-produced CO2 causes measurable planetary warming not verifiable, but there has been no warming to measure.
And the measurements that show it are fraudulent.
Need more proof? Read AJ Strata’s little dissertation (referenced above), which demonstrates nicely the statistical hocus-pocus the alarmists have used to fool the public (and most of the scientific community, which is revealed as surprisingly gullible): http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/11932
It’s time for some gutsy public figures to stand up and denounce the whole ‘global-warming’ scam. So far the only one who has (in the USA), apart from mavericks like Senator Inhofe, is Sarah Palin.
/Mr Lynn
No topless girls there today…..
u.k.(us) (15:27:21) :
There is a lot of white sand in the Med. overnight snow would settle there better there than on the darker areas in the photo.
DaveE.
Brrrr!
OverCôte d’Azur
My wife and I have been to Nice at Christmas. On Christmas Day we saw Santa Claus on waterskis – well the guy’s gotta relax after a hard night’s work!
It can get cold in Southern France in winter due to a strong cold airflow that begins in Siberia called the “Mistral”
But snow is definitely unusual. Not “unprecendented”, though.