"You wouldn't accept that at a grade 9 science fair…" – CBC finds a moment of clarity on Climategate

I knew once CBC gave him the go ahead, Rex Murphy would come through. He, along with Stephen McIntyre, need to get the Order of Canada.

This is great. It seems that our National Radio & TV corporation (in Canada) is taking the line for real science. I can’t wait to see what Harper will do this weekend at the summit… this surely gives him good reasons for not signing anything… one could almost suspect that the position of CBC/RC is coming from him… but let’s give credence to the journalists (some seem to want to redeem themselves).

John Galt,
First, I am not a ‘scientist’. I am a generalist, with interests in lots of areas and I see most everything as following orderly laws; not chaos. I do not reject keeping our home as clean as we reasonably can. That is an individual responsibility. When mandated upon the entire populations of the earth, as a political control mechanism, I reject that 100%.
Where is the proof that CO2 is a “green house gas”. ‘Scientists’ have been screaming that for so many years, it is like telling us the earth is flat. Eventually evidence showed that to be false. Look how FAR we’ve come.
AGW “science” screams about 0.8*C rise in 157 years, after we’ve spewed, what Giga-tons of CO2 into the atmosphere? Just exactly how stable does “science” believe the surface temperature of the earth SHOULD remain – as ‘you’ tell us that life has ‘evolved’ over billions (wish I could type in Carl Sagan speak) of years. Was the MWP caused by a fractional degree of rise? Are Ice Ages caused by fractions degree drop? If so, I think you have uncovered absolute proof of the existence of the Intelligent Designer; we live on a razor’s edge, in perfect balance between two tipping points; freezing or frying – and have done so for ‘billions’ of years, long before science, or Gore.
Maybe science looks at the earth as a machine, but as a simplified version of reality. The complexity is beyond a fortunate balancing act, but is of dynamic servo systems, responding in ways ‘you’ have ignored.
President Obama is quite probably the most corrupt US president in HIStory. He is purposely pushing the USA into a total collapse of the US economy – hard to reason anything but. I tried borrowing money to get out of debt, but that doesn’t work; will he listen to me? He and his band of worshipers of Saul Alinsky, MAO, whoever hated Liberty… The elitist, university educated lawyer.politicians have been taught this BS in the universities, which spew the liberal/progressive agenda. Obama looks down on the very Constitution, which he swore oathes to defend, as a document which is flawed at it’s very core. He entered office (as senator and as president), commencing with the swearing of an oath of office – as a liar!
The US government just now, told us that unemployment rose by only 11,000 last month; but if you wait for the rest of the ‘data’, it turns to be more lies and manipulations of data. The old saying “Figures don’t lie, but liars do figure.” remains true and poinient.
Obama’s trillion dollar “stimulus” works so well, the percentage of ‘black’ American males, who are unemployed, exceeds the percentage of ‘black’ American children murdered in the womb. (57:50) And they are his voting base… expendable tools – worshipers of no consequence.
The power greedy animals, who prowl the globe, spewing thousands of tons of CO2 in every trip, holding parties, huddling in secret and stealing the lives and properties of the peons, are not to be trusted.
If Obama says “we must”, I say NO! If he says this, or that is exceptional, I say it is mundane. If he says “the sky is falling!”, I say he is creating another disaster opportunity, with which they can ratchet away more of our unalienable rights.
There seem to be no political “leaders”. Anything that looks like a progressive cannot be trusted to lead a family of ducks across the White House lawn – AND Obama looks like a progressive.
Those who align themselves with evil and it’s agendas, cannot be trusted. The kind of agenda the progressives are pushing, is not saving the planet, but dominating it. Their “utopia” is well enough described at http://www.georgiaguidestones.com
Scientists, who allow themselves to become tools of a political agenda, are no longer scientists, but tools. Expendable tools.

According to the G&T paper, cited on another thread, if you put a teakettle on a burner, it will cool, not warm, the burner. And, by analogy, if you put an atmosphere on a planet, it will cool, not warm, the surface.
The moon has no atmosphere, and it has a daytime mean surface temperature of
107°C (with a max of 123°C ).
QED?
I.e., the atmosphere, and in particular, the “greenhouse gasses” in the atmosphere, are NOT heating the surface, which would be a lot hotter in their absence. They merely slow the loss of the heat. But it is still lost.
From the very first I suspected something was amiss with AGW, simply because it gets cold at night.

I’m not sure the impact of this editorial is fully appreciated by non-Canadians. The CBC is a left leaning media organization and for them to air this is significant by itself. The National is probably one of the most watched news programs on Canadian television and airs coast to coast. Rex Murphy’s piece on the National is quite popular and he certainly is not considered a right wing hack.

Good for Rex Murphy.
I hope they now make a documentary about people like McIntyre, Lindzen and the countless other HONEST people & scientists who were courageous enough to speak up about this for so long – risking their careers and being ostracized by family and friends.
I have seen it happen personally – so I know what a huge price these people paid when they spoke out. Imagine being Richard Lindzen at MIT where Susan Hockfield (MIT President) has been running around making Chicken Little presentations and speeches for years!!
Please RESIGN SUSAN HOCKFIELD – your academic intellectual integrity is in tatters ….you have NO business representing the illustrious academic Massachusetts Institute of Technology – you have been shown to be a fraud!
Here is an example of Susan’s typical statements in a whole multitude (dozens) of speeches, where she talks about the Climate Change Boogey Monster and the next sentence is “we need more R&D Energy related funding” – pretty obvious what is going on here:
We are likely only decades away, at best, from the point of no return on greenhouse gas concentrations.

The first bell has finally rung.
I, my family, my country (USA) and the world are indebted to you, Mr. Murphy.
Simply masterful.

The Canadian Globe and Mail is unrepentent as their headline on their coverage of Copenhagen shows:
“Ahead of Copenhagen
Your first stop for climate change information
Read features from Globe correspondents, watch video from the Munk Debates and visit often for breaking news on global warming”
REALLY? Globe and Mail web editors took two weeks to release anything remotely talking about Climategate…
Their environment reporter Martin Mittelstead story about birds has a blatant lie in it (Robins have names in Eskimo contrary to what he writes…)
the Globe NEVER brings attention to any scientific article that is not an alarmist PR job from AP Borenstein or some other Canadian Press activists.
the Globe never offered any detail reporting on the CONTENT of CRUgate emails and documents and the consequences,
And now the Globe want us to believe we’ll get balanced information about Global Warming from THEM?
Perfect match with Mann and Team no?

Man ….Rex is so cool
“Most men only care for science so far as they get a living by it, but they will worship error when it affords them a subsistence.”
Goethe (early 1800’s)

The old statistics example:
What is the correlation between church attendence and beer consumption?
Sample Data:
Church attendence increased over the time period
Beer consumption increased over the same time period
Do church goers tend to drink more beer?
Do beer drinkers tend to go to church?
The missing data: change in population.
As population increases, there are more people to attend church AND there are more people to drink beer. (still don’t know if the same people do both.)

For those outside the UK, the confrontation between Prof. Watson and Mr. Morano can be viewed at http://www.the-daily-politics.com/2009/12/climategate-newsnight-4th-dec-2009.html.