Michael Mann Responds to Climategate Allegations

This video from the AccuWeather website. Since Dr. Mann is in the same city, it is easy for them to get an interview, which they did.

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Razor
December 2, 2009 7:27 pm

More front than Myers!

Editor
December 2, 2009 7:28 pm

Sean Peake (18:17:26) :
I’m all in favor of uncovering the truth, let the chips fall where they may. I’m also the vindictive sort. I’m all in favor of retribution. The Statist elites Mann is appealing to really don’t care about proletarians. Oh, you’ve got a college degree and a profession? What makes you think you are not a prol in the new economic order?

blown away
December 2, 2009 7:32 pm

You’ve broken my heart in two, Micheal Mann.
It’s over.

DaleC
December 2, 2009 7:37 pm

The 52 vs 62 looks to me conceptually the same as telling lies on a CV. Maybe Jones in a later email not released said “hey mike, ya can’t say 62 – it’s just not true”, but the point for this thread is that Mann showed himself perfectly comfortable with using a deliberate misreading of an extra 10 index points to get his mate Phil into the AGU as a fellow. In effect, this is a claim to publications which never existed. Had the extra publications been explictly cited, and then shown to have never existed, they would both be sacked immediately. For those baffled by the conflicting mathematical and statistical arguments, this point is immediately accessible. Why don’t journalists ask mike (he always uses the non-hierarchic lower case of himself) what is going on here. I would be very interested in his defence.

December 2, 2009 7:48 pm

Robert Soros,
In response to Michael Mann’s highly dubious assertion that he made all his data available, let me quote Rep. Joe Barton to 0bama:
“You lie!”
Mann is a liar. [I’ve followed Climate Audit re: the Mann et al shenanigans].
But of course, I could be wrong. So let’s prove it one way or another. Have Steve McIntyre and Ross McKitrick publicly provide a detailed list of all the raw data, all adjusted data, all methodologies, and anything else they may need from Michael Mann, et al, for the purpose of falsification of the CO2=AGW hypothesis. Michael Mann must provide all of the requested information within 72 hours [very easy; a few dozen mouse clicks, a DVD burner, and a copy machine are all that are necessary to comply].
Watch Michael Mann squirm like a cornered liar on the witness stand.
Prove me wrong — if you can, Michael Mann.

December 2, 2009 7:56 pm

RE John 17:12,
Priceless!

Janice
December 2, 2009 8:00 pm

“Maybe it will come out in comic book format.”
I would suggest Sergio Aragones do the art work.

Wat
December 2, 2009 8:03 pm

“It’s a distraction, and I think policy makers in Washington are smart enough to understand that.”
The same tactic he used in his email grooming that useful idiot Revkin: “Fortunately, the prestige press doesn’t fall for this sort of stuff, right?”
I’m looking forward to him telling us the state of his ring when he gets out of prison.

December 2, 2009 8:10 pm


Smokey (19:48:09) :
let me quote Rep. Joe Barton to 0bama:
“You lie!”

Make that “Joe Wilson” and you get the cee-gar.
.
.

Claude Harvey
December 2, 2009 8:11 pm

The man failed the “possum test”. When they smiles like possums when they answerin’ tough questions, they guilty as sin!
CH

December 2, 2009 8:13 pm

The U.S. mainstream media: click
Their response to the leaked emails: click2
More seriously: click

December 2, 2009 8:17 pm

_Jim (20:10:16),
You are right, thanks for the correction.

December 2, 2009 8:25 pm

“I think policy makers will see that (it’s a distraction).”
VITAL POLICY MAKER INFORMATION
Copenhagen Temperature 1881-2007
http://i46.tinypic.com/25zt4di.jpg

December 2, 2009 8:50 pm

Speaking of ‘policy-makers’. . .

Obama science officials defend warming research
Dec 2 03:18 PM US/EasternWASHINGTON (AP) –
Top White House science officials defended the validity of global warming research against repeated Republican attacks Wednesday that cited leaked e-mails from some climate researchers.
The e-mails from a British university’s climate center were obtained by computer hackers and released last month. Climate change skeptics contend the messages reveal that researchers manipulated and suppressed data and stifled dissent.
At a Capitol Hill hearing, the president’s science adviser and the chief of the agency in charge of climate research said the e-mails did nothing to undermine scientific consensus on climate change. Some Republicans said they showed a “culture of corruption” among scientists.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9CBCN6G0&show_article=1

/Mr Lynn

joshua corning
December 2, 2009 8:51 pm

Michael Mann, Dec 2004
No researchers in this field have ever, to our knowledge, “grafted the thermometer record onto” any reconstruction.
Phil Jones, Nov 1999
I’ve just completed Mike’s Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards)

hmmmm….

December 2, 2009 8:51 pm

More corruption:
“A former top climate scientist who had become of one the scientific world’s most cited authorities on the human effect on Earth’s atmosphere was sentenced to probation Tuesday….”
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/local/Former-NASA-climate-scientist-pleads-guilty-to-contract-fraud-8613137-78268862.html

April E. Coggins
December 2, 2009 8:53 pm

I laughed out loud when I viewed the video. It was a pathetic attempt by a previously protected member of “the Team”. Now, he is simply an unsympathetic scientist twisting in the wind.

December 2, 2009 8:54 pm

Today’s excellent Wall Street Journal article: click
Check out the comments. People are getting fed up with climate fraud.

theduke
December 2, 2009 8:56 pm

From a report that I read today:
\\Rep. F. James Sensenbrenner Jr. (R-Wis.), one of the authors of the letter to the EPA, said in a news release Wednesday that the e-mails “read more like scientific fascism than the scientific process. . . . It’s time to take back the notion that the ‘science is settled.’ “//
What was exposed in the CRUgate emails was a form scientific fascism in which resentments and disagreements become the focus and obsession of the scientists in question, all in the pursuit of power and influence. It’s one thing to disagree with those with whom you disagree, it’s another to attempt to destroy their professional lives and to celebrate their deaths. The argument that “we are in possession of the absolute truth and no one else therefore needs to have an opposing opinion,” is fascist to the core.
Fascism is alive and well in American and European culture. What is not widely understood is that it is a leftist authoritarian brand of fascism and just as virulent as the so-called “right-wing” versions of the 1920s and 30s.

Julian in Wales
December 2, 2009 9:12 pm

I have always been impressed by the Roman Catholic point of view (Dantes Divine Comedy) that the strength of goodness is that it tends to harmony and the weakness of evil is that it tends towards disharmony. Today’s events seem to illustrate this point.
The Michael Mann video clip seems to me to be part of a longer interview given for R4 where he seriously dumps on Phil Jones and Phil Jones, when given the right to reply by R4 did not take them up on the offer. These two are already at each other’s throats.
A new strand of disharmony is started by Hansen who seems to have gone of a jag of his own with his interview with the Guardian where he advocate ruining the Copenhagen conference because it is all too tame. These people are no longer singing from one song sheet which must be very good news for anyone who wishes to see the IPCC’s reputation for being a reputable organisation collapse in on itself.

Andy
December 2, 2009 9:17 pm

I noticed the CBC in Canada did a fairly prominent story this evening within the first 15 minutes of their ‘The National’ daily marquee news broadcast on climategate……surpirisingly they didn’t really try to discount it & acknowledged
the severity of it’s implications & CRU Jones stepping down etc. I figured the CBC would be the last place to cave in what with their leftist/ecoist agenda.

December 2, 2009 9:21 pm

Has the leaker been found ?

cmacrider
December 2, 2009 9:35 pm

Attention Canadians: If you have your doubts about AGW go to “Common Cents from Cameron MacKay” and sign the Petition asking for a Royal Commission to get to the truth of these AGW claims. Your involvement could only save us from Billions of Dollars in taxation in the future.

December 2, 2009 9:36 pm

When Nature put a “hot Antarctica” on the cover to highlight Steig’s paper despite recent cooling of Antarctic, I thought that Nature might be more of an advocacy journal vs an objective scientific journal. But there new editorial “Climatologists under pressure” linked at RC clearly show that their hubris and advocacy.
They want to portray the Jones and Mann as harassed victims, instead of the brazen manipulators that they have revealed themselves to be. Did CRU dump the raw data o protect them selves from harassment? Is avoid harassment an Orwellian way of saying avoiding attempts to replicate the reserach?
They believe they have accounted for all sources of natural climate variation, Nature stated “Denialists often maintain that these changes are just a symptom of natural climate variability. But when climate modellers test this assertion by running their simulations with greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide held fixed, the results bear little resemblance to the observed warming. ” Yet it is precisely Jones, Mann et al’s manipulations that have tried to limit publications about natural variations and hide the historic natural variation by manipulating temperature reconstructions. The “higher I look the crookeder it looks!”
There needs to be a demand for those modelers to show how and why they have weighted the various forms of natural variation, or they will continue to hide behind this.

Doug
December 2, 2009 9:38 pm

The condensending “I think policy makers are smart enough to recognise that” is very telling of Prof. Mann’s inner workings. There is no honest character in this man. His body language and verbal undertones of self importance and ego are red flags. We cannot trust Mr. Mann with the millions of dollars of public research money, or with judgment regarding future political policies that so profoundly impact our society. Prof Mann: step asside so we can move forward with honest folks at the helm.