This video from the AccuWeather website. Since Dr. Mann is in the same city, it is easy for them to get an interview, which they did.
Michael Mann Responds to Climategate Allegations
- Sunday, May 31, 2026
This video from the AccuWeather website. Since Dr. Mann is in the same city, it is easy for them to get an interview, which they did.
To me it indicates elitism. That we small little peasants aren’t capable of understand his enormous brain or the concepts he attempts to convey.
Sashka / New York / December 2nd, 2009 3:58 pm
From dot earth
“What the “consensus” scientists (aka climate oligarchy) need to understand is that they are NOT dealing in (noisy) data, (inadequate) models and (uncertain) projections. They are actually dealing in trust. Unfortunately they have just lost most of whatever little currency they used to have.
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“The only way for them to get the trust back is to clean up the house. This means firing joneses and manns, opening the data, revealing the data analysis methods to the last point, acknowledging the uncertainties in full etc. Holster the guns, uncircle the wagons, put the cards on the table and exercise humility. After a few years the dust will settle and science will continue to work its course: slowly, carefully and honestly.”
This is the important point about the CRUtape Letters: they reveal that the Climate Research Oligarchy is incestuous, unprincipled, and untrustworthy. That’s the point to harp on. That’s why this story has legs and will prove to be a deal-breaker.
Don’t stress on the measurement fudging. They can talk their way out of that, and it’s minor. Pielke Sr. in that dot earth thread made the same point about the relative unimportance of the technical fudging.
Re jones being taken away by police. If you read the articles again they all state he was questioned around the emails being stolen, not around their contents.
Let’s not get our hopes up.
Mailman
“The article wraps up with this sentence, “The degree of skepticism [on climate change] among real scientists is very small.”
They’re sheep who can only tell which way the wind is blowing. They’ll come around.
In Australia we have a simple test. “Would you buy a used car from this man (Mann)?
The simple answer is “not on your life”
Michael Mann reminds me of a film from 2 decades back that says it all. The only snag is he needs to be a young female to fit the title but then that is nothing compared to inverting data to generate another hockey stick falsehood.
The film? Imdb has it.
“Sorority Babes in the Slimeball Bowl-O-Rama” (1988)
What a title! : )
Is it possible that Bostonian Sumner Redstone and his CBS Network are finally starting to see the climate through MIT’s Dr. Lindzen’s eyes?? CBS, after avoiding the story for ten days has published a skeptical-minded article online:
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/12/02/taking_liberties/entry5860171.shtml
“… it looks like climate change skeptics have finally found their voice. And scientists and politicians endorsing dramatic limits on economic growth to limit carbon dioxide have been reminded where the burden of proof properly lies. ”
It is not that skeptics are ‘desperate to discredit global warming’ – they are properly disturbed by the strong arm tactics the climate cabal used to get their way.
Out of context my backside. Even if you ignore the emails the comments in the programming code are totally damning.
Look at the video without sound (we know what he’s gonna say, right?). The body language is revealing…
So they wangled Phil “Cheers” Jones into the AGU. Here are some core values from their web site:-
http://www.agu.org/about/
Our Values
AGU’s mission, goals, guiding principles, programs, policies and procedures are built on a foundation of widely shared values. We value:
•The scientific method.
•The generation and dissemination of scientific knowledge.
•Excellence and integrity in everything we do.
•Free exchange of ideas and information.
•A diversity of backgrounds, scientific ideas, and approaches.
•The worth and dignity of individuals.
•The volunteerism of members and the dedication of staff.
•Responsible stewardship of AGU resources.
•Accountability to the public.
•Unselfish cooperation in research.
Maybe Phil should consider his options!
Re: Mailman (23:48:43) :
Re jones being taken away by police. If you read the articles again they all state he was questioned around the emails being stolen, not around their contents.
For those unfamiliar with the way British Bobbies work, the significant part of the report was not that they were questioning him about theft from the University, but the fact that they took him to the Police Station, to question him.
This means that they questioned him probably under caution and ON TAPE. This is much more significant that turning up to his office and asking which box is the server that got nicked? Bear in mind that some folk have made formal complaints to the police.
We await developments
Of course Mann knows about emails being delete. In the leaked emails Jones informed the others that he had deleted most of his emails 2 months ago and urged the others to do the same.
Mann is openly lying!
DaleC (18:03:10)
On the “H=62 is better than H=52” issue.
I think that illustrates Mann’s (lack of) character perfectly. Mann has no scruples whatsoever in using the value that will be more advantageous to him – right after being directly told that it does not represent the truth. He casually says that 62 is better than 52 – never mind that 52=truth (the figure for Phil Jones’s publications) and 62=false (including publications by another man of the same name). Factual truth is of no importance to Mann. Yet, he does not lie outright as in inventing a figure out of thin air – he keeps what he might call (paraphrasing him) “plausible deniabilty” by using the 62 result which allows him to claim that he did not notice that there was another Phil Jones in the publications listed.
There, in that e-mail, one can see the origins of the hockey stick. That man has no business having anything to do with science. He lacks any committment to factual truth.
I am the all powerful Oz! Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!
What a brutal questioning by the media. Tough, hard-hitting questions….Bah!
Looks to me like Mann eats too many pies. That can’t be good for the climate. Is he a vegetarian?
Isn’t Accuweather based in Central PA? As in, near Penn State? As in, part of The Team? Just askin’….
“Larry Geiger (16:59:15) :
Dendrochronology is not a mature science yet. Certainly not for studying the temperature record.”
As I posted on another thread, please don’t confuse dendrochronology (tree-ring timescales, used by archaeologists for decades) with dendroclimatology, the voodoo used by the AGW crowd. It’s like confusing astronomy with astrology.
Is that it? That’s all?
It is worse than we thought…
Wow, I never realized sh*t could talk.
If anyone out there is interested in true science, you must read the following report:
http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/images/stories/papers/originals/Monckton-Caught%20Green-Handed%20Climategate%20Scandal.pdf
Doug in Seattle & blastzilla :
‘Doesnt seem to play in Australia’
Here’s the YouTube link if you’re still interested:
What Mann doesn’t say:
“I did not delete any emails following Phil Jones request.”
“I did not email Gene and ask him to do the same or send Phil Gene’s address”
“I have not manipulated data.”
He simply says “there is no evidence” and he “could not “justify” a request from Prof Jones”.
I expected an unambiguous denial about both the deletions and the data manipulation.
I hadn’t noticed before but it is mentioned on the video image of mann that the conference starts on Dec. 7 – already a day that will ” live in infamy…” as the Pearl Harbor 1941 attack.
How suitable!