Michael Mann Responds to Climategate Allegations

This video from the AccuWeather website. Since Dr. Mann is in the same city, it is easy for them to get an interview, which they did.

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Alvin
December 2, 2009 6:06 pm

Neal (16:53:01) :
I love the last comment: “It’s a distraction, and I think policy makers in Washington are smart enough to understand that.”

He just showed himself. He is a Progressive Socialist just like the President and just like the Euopeans pushing this agenda. He showed his arrogance.

DT
December 2, 2009 6:10 pm

All I could think when I saw his face was…
Hide the Decline! Hide the Decline!

Michael
December 2, 2009 6:15 pm

Snow forecast for Dallas Texas Friday. There is no global cooling, pay no attention to the snowman in Texas.

December 2, 2009 6:17 pm

I know it’s tempting to criticize Mann for this interview (it’s like kicking puppies—it is way too easy)‚ But let’s not adopt the warmers’ deflection mechanism. We need to go after his work, not his words. The mission is to uncover the truth, not to seek retribution. If we get distracted by the latter we play into the warmers’ hands and got-cha MSM journalism. Just a thought.

Robert of Canada
December 2, 2009 6:18 pm

“Taken out of context” Ha hah aha hah a effin hhaha!!
That is the lamest excuse available to a person in deep doo-doo.
Also, the crimatologists are all throwing each other under the bus. Just check Judy Curry today (sorry, lost link). She threw railroad engineer Pachuri under the … er .. train.
In French, there is a phrase : “sauve qui peut generale” which basically translates as “everyone for themselves” (hey, I am Canadian)

DocMartyn
December 2, 2009 6:21 pm

“Michael (18:15:08) :
Snow forecast for Dallas Texas Friday.”
and here in Houston. We had one day of snow last year, for some people it was the first time in their lives that it had happened; now two years running.

December 2, 2009 6:27 pm

DT (18:10:50) :
All I could think when I saw his face was…
Hide the Decline! Hide the Decline!

In my mind’s eye I saw the official folks gathering for the Copenhagen summit and imagined a small chorus outside singing the Hide The Decline song with a helper dressed in a polar bear outfit holding up the lyrics on white cards. It probably wouldn’t be covered by the MSM, but it’d make for a great WUWT photo op!

Robert of Canada
December 2, 2009 6:27 pm

Patrick Davis (18:05:12) :
OT, not sure if this has been posted before there are so many to read…but…
Scientists resigns from the Australian CSIRO.
http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/clive-spash-resigns-from-csiro-after-climate-report-censorship/story-e6frfku0-1225806539742

Big news. Incredibly, althought this guy bought the BIG LIE, he was run out of town because he didn’t buy the “LIE”. He was opposed to ETS and for a direct Carbon Tax.
Please. mate, tell me why a scientist is advocating policy?

P Walker
December 2, 2009 6:28 pm

While the wheels may be falling off the the global warming aspect of AGW , the A still remains . The emphasis will slowly , subtley change to oceanic acidification , as has been pointed out in other threads recently .

Doug in Seattle
December 2, 2009 6:30 pm

blastzilla (17:13:33) :
Doesnt seem to play in Australia :’(

Doesn’t play in Seattle either. Looks like all the WUWT traffic was sucking the life out of their server and they severed the link to the video.

VG
December 2, 2009 6:31 pm

Im being sarcastic here… WUWT move on.. Global warming is over you are no longer required. LOL

December 2, 2009 6:32 pm

A top NASA scientist says he would rather see no agreement at the Copenhagen climate conference because the whole approach to climate change is so deeply flawed that it would be better to start from scratch.
James Hansen told The Guardian newspaper that he believed any agreement that might emerge from the upcoming conference would be deeply flawed.
http://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/global-warming-godfather-goes-cold-on-copenhagen-20091203-k7ds.html

REPLY:
Covered. Inability to scroll? – A

Scientist
December 2, 2009 6:32 pm

This is somehow off-topic, but is this how you do science in climatology?
I may be way off, so please correct me if needed.
Post-normal science:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-normal_science
“James J. Kay described Post-normal science as a process that recognizes the potential
for gaps in knowledge and understanding that cannot be resolved other than through revolutionary
science, thereby arguing that (in between revolutions) one should not necessarily
attempt to resolve or dismiss contradictory perspectives of the world
(whether they are based on science or not), but instead incorporate multiple viewpoints
into the same problem-solving process.”
Let us do some workout for post-normal mathematics:
Assume that 1=2 and everything else is as in elementary school,
1=2
1=1+1
0=1
Damn it! It’s not that intresting.
No problems post-normal science in physical sciences will help us:
A moon is the cheese! Let us assume that a gravition constant stay constant,
even when the moon is the cheese. Is this correct??? Hard to say, but let us
assume that it is…
Let us assume that we have a branch of “science” with a idiotic dogma, which is based on nothing…
Let us assume that all the experimental results are corrupted.
Let us assume that a theory of everything is already here…
A miracle just happened :
Wellcome to the Brave New World!

VG
December 2, 2009 6:32 pm

DaleC H index is just an author’s citation index. I would not read anything untowards into that. Anyway their citation index will probably = 0 in the near future LOL

rbateman
December 2, 2009 6:33 pm

He’ll bury himself.

Alvin
December 2, 2009 6:45 pm

Boxer will do her best and Chair and majority party to prevent the investigation from occurring. Markey said some similar thing, even more partisan. The narrative from them is that Warming is occurring, they will not be denied, and there is nothing you can do to stop it.
Not the words of a group of “caring” representatives, is it?

chainpin
December 2, 2009 6:49 pm

VG, the point is that the 62 number includes people other than the original Phil Jones, thus it does not represent a valid citation index.
At least that is how I read it.

SOYLENT GREEN
December 2, 2009 6:53 pm

“I think policy makers will see that (it’s a distraction).”
Pretty blatant about the directions he’s giving them, especially with his smug “you can’t touch me” smile.
As Voldemort said, “I can touch you NOW.”

Bill Illis
December 2, 2009 7:00 pm

Michael Mann has a lot of talent and one of those talents is the ability to push a straight-faced distortion of the facts, the answers to an interviewer’s questions, the math, etc.
Plain clothes police officers took Jones away? Neither explanation makes much sense to me. The media is really jumping on-board now. ClimateGate is getting “series”.

Tom in Texas
December 2, 2009 7:00 pm

The weather service predicts San Antonio and Bexar County has a 60 to 70 percent chance of receiving a half-inch to an inch of snowfall on Friday. The record for earliest measurable snowfall was set Dec. 14, 1898, when 2.7 inches fell.

Robert of Canada
December 2, 2009 7:02 pm

For those who know the Ignobel Prizes, here is a chance to ridicule these jack-asses. Nomintae Jim Hansen, or Al Gore, or Michael Mann, or Phil Jones, with a prize. I personally nominated the whole HadCRU. This is where to send your nomination. Or you can go to the Ignobel Prize web site (google it).
marca@chem2.harvard.edu

Michael Larkin
December 2, 2009 7:07 pm

BBC radio 4 “The world tonight” has an interview with Micheal Mann and some other relevant info. Listen from around 0:18.30 to 0:34.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b00p1mvf

hunter
December 2, 2009 7:15 pm

That was it? That is all he said?
‘Move along, proles, nothing here to see.’
He wishes, desperately, it were so.

Editor
December 2, 2009 7:18 pm

Dave Wendt (16:45:04) :
Jeez, Dave, I’m so disappointed you chose not to give us the LONG rant… ;})

James Chamberlain
December 2, 2009 7:20 pm

I have big concerns that P Walker is correct. If AGW theory fails, there is still a way to go after the “A”. Many “discoveries” over the past year, and especially, recent days indicate this. Acidification of oceans, ocean uptake of CO2. It reminds me a bit of the “Global Warming” to “Climate Change” shift. This time it will be the “carbon emergency” or something.