This is mind blowing ignorance on the part of Al Gore. Gore in an 11/12/09 interview on NBC’s tonight Show with Conan O’Brien, speaking on geothermal energy, champion of slide show science, can’t even get the temperature of earth’s mantle right, claiming “several million degrees” at “2 kilometers or so down”. Oh, and the “crust of the earth is hot” too.
Temperature of the sun’s corona: 1–2 million kelvin
Temperature of the sun’s photosphere: 6,000 kelvin
Temperature of the Earths mantle, more than “2 kilometers or so down”: between 500 °C to 900 °C (773 to 1173 kelvin)
Watching Gore make a complete scientific idiot of himself on national TV: priceless
Don’t believe me? Watch the video from NBC below:
For a faster presentation, without a pre-viewing commercial, here is the same video on YouTube
Oh…and here is a graph of the vertical temperature profile with drilling depth:
And here is the temperature profile of the Earth’s crust, mantle, and core:
Source: Electropaedia (Mpower UK) page on geothermal energy
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Gore knows nuttink about Will. That’s Will Shakespeare.
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“In the meantime though, they were short of cash for erecting a new building, and found a way around that problem by dismantling the old Theater building and carrying it piece by piece for four days across the frozen Thames river to the new site on Bankside in the Southwark District of London.”
“Shakespeare’s Globe Theatre”
http://www.buzzle.com/editorials/5-22-2004-54511.asp
I think Pat has the key bit of info here…
“pat (14:28:29) :
BTW, geothermal can be incredibly polluting if not done properly. And in many really hot spots, like Hawaii, the pollution was extremely difficult to control. Aerated heavy metals.”
We are talking real pollutants here, not the plant food type.
I have been an architect for some 32 years and I have yet to install a geothermal system… but then I have not worked in Iceland or Alaska yet.
I have found that passive solar heating/cooling and day lighting to be the best strategies for reduction of building energy use, by about 50%. Keeping in mind the built sector uses about 48% of all US energy… and we can effect this change at 1-2% increase in first costs…
BTW, I do not believe it usually makes sense to use photovoltaics yet… but we will get there eventually.(except under ideal conditions)
Al Gore is very savvy in regards to exploiting a fraud to his own gain, but I would not risk pulling him from a raging current as he is quite willing to bring down the country for his gain.
2km down is still the crust. His claims are ludicrous. The Earth’s core is 5700 K. Millions? He must have been the scientific consultant for that stinker movie, “The Core” with Hillary Skank.
Geothermal in Boise, Idaho began in 1892. The first geothermal district heating system in the US was built in Boise, Idaho. Today, Boise’s capital and city buildings are heated with a geothermal district heating system.
http://www.examiner.com/x-6562-Boise-Downtown-Examiner~y2009m3d30-Geothermal-energy-has-long-history-in-Boise-will-expand-to-BSU
http://www.cityofboise.org/Departments/Public_Works/Services/Geothermal/index.aspx
… They wouldn’t be drilling those holes with evil diesel motors would they;-)
according to Geodynamics, Australia’s leading geothermal company, the Cooper Basin in South Australia has the hottest rocks of it’s type in the world – 287C @ur momisugly 5000m (5 km)
http://www.geodynamics.com.au/IRM/Company/ShowPage.aspx?CPID=2066&EID=72846019&PageName=Managing Director\’s Presentation to AGEC 11 November 2009
I don’t think most people took the time to ask if he was accurate or not. But any teachers, professors, or scientists, etc., who were watching could easily pick up on his sloppy presentation.
But one thing Al Gore is known for—predictions of the planet heating up and cities like New York and Miami bring underwater; as winters get longer and summers get milder (if the current trend continues) people will continue to ask “Where is Al Gore’s global warming?” You don’t have to be a professor or a scientist to detect the inaccuracies of Al Gore’s predictions.
Time and nature are enemies for Al Gore. Books, interviews on pop tv, and lectures with colorful pictures and scientific looking graphs won’t save him. And he has no one but himself to blame.
The sbs was at it again yesterday on dateline giving the opinions of the non-scientist STERN. my hope many of you will keep the pressure on these radical lying tv stations by emailing them and demanding equal coverage of lord monckton the only person to have taken is science to court aganst these scammers and destroyed them with real science. it actualy says by law they are not to be biased, email the hell out of them i say. Good work guys keep the pressure on these loons.
That’s true, he said the core was millions of degrees. But still it would make the crust 10’s of thousands of degrees. So we can still have fun.
Zeke the Sneak (17:03:13) :
I like the water that turns to steam at millions of degrees.
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……. and Biden’s Arctic ice that evaporates.
It’s a Vice-President thing !!!
So, instead of releasing evil CO2 into the atmosphere, he wants to release stored heat into the atmosphere in order to stop warming?
Btw, you don’t have to be a degreed psychiatrist to see that Gore is making it up as he goes along. He’s betrayed by his own body language.
” Roger Sowell (17:37:01) :
yonason, and other skeptics on geothermal:
Geothermal has produced, and very reliably, 12 to 13,000 GWhrs per year in California for at least the past decade, representing approximately 4 percent of all power sold in the state.
source: http://energyalmanac.ca.gov/electricity/electricity_generation.html ”
This is a clear site, wish we had one as open in Australia.
The contribution of each generating sector since 1997 are interesting….
Hydro down
Nuclear down
Coal up
Gas almost doubled
Geo flat
Biomass flat
Wind up
Solar up
but what makes up ‘the other’?
Or there would beno crust at that temp. I need a widget.
You would think that at some point he would just get embarassed and stop doing stuff like this. On the other hand, he has a new book to sell, so he has no choice. I’m betting on “Going Rogue” to outsell “Our Choice” Any takers? (any odds, any wager).
Let me know thrill takers.
Gore is the worst type of pseudo-intellectual and blow hard. He knows buzz words and confidently spews them out to promote his agendas. Why do you think he won’t debate? He knows that anyone who will challenge him on facts will show him as a total fool.
And the Aussie government forges ahead with its ETS legislation:
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/national/6480785/senate-delays-debate-on-ets/
Keith Minto (18:51:09) : but what makes up ‘the other’?
I am guessing something that was absorbed into another category because of changed statistical reporting. Perhaps something like energy from bagasse burning being absorbed into biomass… that kind of thing. We just had a change in the industrial classifications in Australia and NZ (the ANZIC system) and it causes no end of statistical headaches. It is needed, because technologies come and go, as do the associated industries and hence the need to update industry classifications.
“I’m betting on “Going Rogue” to outsell “Our Choice” Any takers?”
Heh, Going Rogue is now in its second printing and hasn’t even been officially released yet.
Last time I looked Gore’s book was in the 70’s on Amazon’s list.
I once read an email from a physicist that went into the physics of Santa Claus visiting everyhome to deliver presents in one night. The conclusion was that if there was a Santa Claus, there isn’t one anymore because he would have been killed in his first attempt.
It would appear that if there was global warming, we don’t have to worry about it any more, because, according to Al Gore, we’re all dead, fried by the two million degrees at the Earth’s core.
So, this is what Purgatory is all about, watching videos of Al Gore.
So now we know the science is settled:
Gore is a compleat idiot.
” BarryW (19:19:03) :
Gore is the worst type of pseudo-intellectual and blow hard. He knows buzz words and confidently spews them out to promote his agendas. Why do you think he won’t debate? He knows that anyone who will challenge him on facts will show him as a total fool.”
True, but he has such a commanding strong speaking voice it sorta grabs your attention. I have an interest in Audio and making every voice sound as good as possible, as good voice quality could sell icebergs in Antarctica (or even AGW).
A high, squeaky male voice goes nowhere,ever heard Helium raise the pitch on the human voice?, it just cannot be taken seriously any more.
Now if we could just alter the audio feed……..
George E. Smith (17:19:06) :
Don’t knock ejection seats for helicopters!
There have been numerous proposals, from sideways ejecting seats with rocket packs to gain height, to jettisoning of rotors prior to ejection.
DaveE.
hunter (14:37:32) :
The sweet irony of this tiny glimpse of the real Gore, when ocntrasted with the propaganda piece by Newsweak, is delightful. The cover story on Al Gore in Newsweak this week is, I kid you not: ” The Thinking Man’s Thinking Man”
Here are all four letters nesweek published in its 11/7 issue on the gore article:
‘The Thinking Man’s Thinking Man’
Until each nation makes responsibility for the earth a priority, we will continue to devastate it—and ourselves.
Theresa Hirschman Jericho, N.Y.
As a six-continent bicycle traveler for the past 35 years, I admire Al Gore addressing climate change. However, he fails to highlight the basic factor accelerating it: human overpopulation. Either we address it, or Mother Nature will do it for us.
Frosty Wooldridge Golden, Colo.
Propaganda by global-warming skeptics and deniers reminds me of 1944, when as an Army officer I saw living skeletons in striped pajamas. Horror stories about Nazi concentration camps suddenly rang true. I wondered how intelligent people could commit such atrocities. History records the effectiveness of Joseph Goebbels’s propaganda. I hope Al Gore and others can prevail over today’s anti–science propaganda.
Lee Bidgood Jr. Gainesville, Fla.
I was surprised to see Al Gore’s essay (“The Plan That Saved the Planet”) on the historic choices we face regarding energy and climate change followed by Karl Rove’s “Scrap Cap-and-Trade” piece attacking the leading legislative proposal to reduce carbon emissions. Rove’s essay repeats debunked claims about cap-and-trade systems and fails to offer an alternative method for significantly reducing carbon emissions to the levels scientists say are necessary. Rove’s opinion piece was an unworthy counterpoint to Gore’s serious call to action.
Aaron Huertas Press Secretary, Union of Concerned Scientists Washington, D.C.
If you had exactly one question to ask Gore in a psuedo-private gathering of law students and professors what would you ask?
It’s NBC so are you sure that’s not John Lovitz playing his pathalogical liar character from Saturday Night Live?
Yaaaah, the ceeenter of the Earth, a MILLION degrees, yaaaah that’s it!
35,000 years of electricity there, yaaaah, just a mile down, and the drillbits won’t melt, yaaaah, that’s the ticket!
Is anyone the least bit surprised by this and the applause? Gore is a politician and people tend to follow herd mentality in groups. Of course, the audience would have been selected for this event.
Another issue that can affect geothermal energy sources is that the source can change/move to such an extent that the plant would be come unviable. This has happened in Iceland and New Zealand before as I recall. There is a plant just north of Taupo, NZ, and Rotarua is another geothermal plateau where, I understand, people used to tap the source to heat swimming pools etc until the local authorities banned that action. Hot Water Beach is quite an amazing place too where you can feel geothermal heating flowing right at the surface, although you can’t stand in the flow of hot water without cold sea water too as it’s too hot on its own.