An idea I can get behind – regulate [as in capture waste gas and recycle] methane first

UPDATE: Some readers took exception to my title, and I can see why now. I regret my choice of wording for the title. “Regulate its escape into the atmosphere” is where I was going. “Regulate” from my perspective in engineering things and making things work is different than what others might think. I wasn’t implying legislation. Recycling and recovery systems is what was in my mind.  Gas regulator valves and all that. This passage from the story below was my focus: “Since we already know how to capture methane from animals, landfills, and sewage treatment plants at fairly low cost, targeting methane makes sense,”.

I’ve amended the title [in brackets] -Anthony

According to the 2007 IPCC AR4 Methane has a “global warming potential” of 25 times that of CO2 over 100 years. Here’s a CH4 budget pie chart. Note that there are several sources where we can manage methane without affecting energy creation. Starting on Methane, rather than CO2, is an idea that I could get behind because it can be recycled and used for many things.

http://oceanlink.island.net/ONews/ONews7/images/methane%20sources%20-%20EPA.gif

A new paper from Drew Shindell from NASA JPL prompted Roger Pielke Jr. to write:

For years my father has been arguing that:

. . . attempts to “control” the climate system, and to prevent a “dangerous intervention” into the climate system by humans that focuses just on CO2 and a few other greenhouse gases will necessarily be significantly incomplete, unless all of the other first order climate forcings are considered.

His views are now being robustly vindicated as a quiet revolution is occurring in climate science. Here is how PhysOrg reports on a study out today in Science by NASA’s Drew Shindell and others:

According to Shindell, the new findings underscore the importance of devising multi-pronged strategies to address climate change rather than focusing exclusively on carbon dioxide. “Our calculations suggest that all the non-carbon dioxide greenhouse gases together have a net impact that rivals the warming caused by carbon dioxide.”

In particular, the study reinforces the idea that proposals to reduce methane may be an easier place for policy makers to start climate change agreements. “Since we already know how to capture methane from animals, landfills, and sewage treatment plants at fairly low cost, targeting methane makes sense,” said Michael MacCracken, chief scientist for the Climate Institute in Washington, D.C.

This research also provides regulators insight into how certain pollution mitigation strategies might simultaneously affect climate and air quality. Reductions of carbon monoxide, for example, would have positive effects for both climate and the public’s health, while reducing nitrogen oxide could have a positive impact on health but a negative impact on the climate.

“The bottom line is that the chemistry of the atmosphere can get hideously complicated,” said Schmidt. “Sorting out what affects climate and what affects air quality isn’t simple, but we’re making progress.”

Of note, Shindell et al. cautiously suggest that the entire framework of international climate policy may be based on an overly-simplistic view of the human effect on climate, by focusing on carbon dioxide equivalencies in radiative forcing (i.e.,g “global warming potential” or GWP), from their Science paper out today (emphasis added):

There are many limitations to the GWP concept (25). It includes only physical properties, and its definition is equivalent to an unrealistic economic scenario of no discounting through the selected time horizon followed by discounting to zero value thereafter. The 100-year time horizon conventionally chosen strongly reduces the influence of species that are short-lived relative to CO2. Additionally, GWPs assume that integrated global mean RF is a useful indicator of climate change. Although this is generally reasonable at the global scale, GWP does not take into account the rate of change, and it neglects that the surface temperature response to regionally distributed forcings depends on the location of the RF (26) and that precipitation and circulation responses may be even more sensitive to RF location (27). Along with their dependence on emission timing and location, this makes GWPs particularly ill-suited to very short-lived species such as NOx, SO2, or ammonia, although they are more reasonable for longer-lived CO. Inclusion of short-lived species in agreements alongside long-lived greenhouse gases is thus problematic (28, 29).

Read his complete commentary here

Here’s the press release from NASA/JPL with comments from Drew Shindel also.

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Surface Methane - Credit NASA Goddard

This map shows the distribution of methane at the surface. New research shows that methane has an elevated warming effect due to its interactions with other substances in the atmosphere.  For decades, climate scientists have worked to identify and measure key substances — notably greenhouse gases and aerosol particles — that affect Earth’s climate. And they’ve been aided by ever more sophisticated computer models that make estimating the relative impact of each type of pollutant more reliable.

Yet the complexity of nature — and the models used to quantify it — continues to serve up surprises. The most recent? Certain gases that cause warming are so closely linked with the production of aerosols that the emissions of one type of pollutant can indirectly affect the quantity of the other. And for two key gases that cause warming, these so-called “gas-aerosol interactions” can amplify their impact.

“We’ve known for years that methane and carbon monoxide have a warming effect,” said Drew Shindell, a climate scientist at the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) in New York and lead author of a study published this week in Science. “But our new findings suggest these gases have a significantly more powerful warming impact than previously thought.”

Mixing a Chemical Soup

When vehicles, factories, landfills, and livestock emit methane and carbon monoxide into the atmosphere, they are doing more than just increasing their atmospheric concentrations. The release of these gases also have indirect effects on a variety of other atmospheric constituents, including reducing the production of particles called aerosols that can influence both the climate and the air quality. These two gases, as well as others, are part of a complicated cascade of chemical reactions that features competition with aerosols for highly reactive molecules that cleanse the air of pollutants.

chart showing gas-aerosol interactions for methane and carbon monoxide

“Emissions-based” estimates highlight the indirect effects that emissions of certain gases can have on the climate via aerosols, methane, ozone, and other substances in the atmosphere. Credit: NASA/GISS › Larger image

Aerosols can have either a warming or cooling effect, depending on their composition, but the two aerosol types that Shindell modeled — sulfates and nitrates — scatter incoming light and affect clouds in ways that cool Earth. They are also related to the formation of acid rain and can cause respiratory distress and other health problems for those who breathe them.

Human activity is a major source of sulfate aerosols, but smokestacks don’t emit sulfate particles directly. Rather, coal power production and other industrial processes release sulfur dioxide — the same gas that billows from volcanoes — that later reacts with atmospheric molecules called hydroxyl radicals to produce sulfates as a byproduct. Hydroxyl is so reactive scientists consider it an atmospheric “detergent” or “scrubber” because it cleanses the atmosphere of many types of pollution.

In the chemical soup of the lower atmosphere, however, sulfur dioxide isn’t the only substance interacting with hydroxyl. Similar reactions influence the creation of nitrate aerosols. And hydroxyls drive long chains of reactions involving other common gases, including ozone.

Methane and carbon monoxide use up hydroxyl that would otherwise produce sulfate, thereby reducing the concentration of sulfate aerosols. It’s a seemingly minor change, but it makes a difference to the climate. “More methane means less hydroxyl, less sulfate, and more warming,” Shindell explained.

graphic showing methane's interaction with hydroxyl Many atmospheric pollutants compete for access to hydroxyl radicals (OH), highly reactive molecules that “scrub” the atmosphere of pollutants. This diagram illustrates hydroxyl converting methane (CH4) into carbon dioxide (CO2) and sulfur dioxide (SO2) into sulfate aerosols. Credit: NASA/GISS › Larger image

His team’s modeling experiment, one of the first to rigorously quantify the impact of gas-aerosol interactions on both climate and air quality, showed that increases in global methane emissions have caused a 26 percent decrease in hydroxyl and an 11 percent decrease in the number concentration of sulfate particles. Reducing sulfate unmasks methane’s warming by 20 to 40 percent over current estimates, but also helps reduce negative health effects from sulfate aerosols.

In comparison, the model calculated that global carbon monoxide emissions have caused a 13 percent reduction in hydroxyl and 9 percent reduction in sulfate aerosols.

Nitrogen oxides — pollutants produced largely by power plants, trucks, and cars — led to overall cooling when their effects on aerosol particles are included, said Nadine Unger, another coauthor on the paper and a climate scientist at GISS. That’s noteworthy because nitrogen oxides have primarily been associated with ozone formation and warming in the past.

A New Approach

To determine the climate impact of particular greenhouse gases, scientists have traditionally relied on surface stations and satellites to measure the concentration of each gas in the air. Then, they have extrapolated such measurements to arrive at a global estimate.

The drawback to that “abundance-based approach,” explained Gavin Schmidt, another GISS climate scientist and coauthor of the study, is that it doesn’t account for the constant interactions that occur between various atmospheric constituents. Nor is it easy to parse out whether pollutants have human or natural origins.

pie chart of methane sourcesNatural sources of methane include wetlands, termites, decomposing organic materials in ocean and fresh water, and a type of ice called methane hydrate. Man-made methane sources include livestock, rice paddies, biomass burning, landfills, coal mining, and gas production. Credit: U.S Dept. of Energy Technology Laboratory

› Larger image “You get a much more accurate picture of how human emissions are impacting the climate — and how policy makers might effectively counteract climate change — if you look at what’s emitted at the surface rather than what ends up in the atmosphere,” said Shindell, who used this “emissions-based” approach as the groundwork for this modeling project.

However, the abundance-based approach serves as the foundation of key international climate treaties, such as the Kyoto Protocol or the carbon dioxide cap-and-trade plans being discussed among policymakers. Such treaties underestimate the contributions of methane and carbon monoxide to global warming, Shindell said.

Unpacking the Implications

According to Shindell, the new findings underscore the importance of devising multi-pronged strategies to address climate change rather than focusing exclusively on carbon dioxide. “Our calculations suggest that all the non-carbon dioxide greenhouse gases together have a net impact that rivals the warming caused by carbon dioxide.”

In particular, the study reinforces the idea that proposals to reduce methane may be an easier place for policy makers to start climate change agreements. “Since we already know how to capture methane from animals, landfills, and sewage treatment plants at fairly low cost, targeting methane makes sense,” said Michael MacCracken, chief scientist for the Climate Institute in Washington, D.C.

This research also provides regulators insight into how certain pollution mitigation strategies might simultaneously affect climate and air quality. Reductions of carbon monoxide, for example, would have positive effects for both climate and the public’s health, while reducing nitrogen oxide could have a positive impact on health but a negative impact on the climate.

“The bottom line is that the chemistry of the atmosphere can get hideously complicated,” said Schmidt. “Sorting out what affects climate and what affects air quality isn’t simple, but we’re making progress.”

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Bill Illis
November 1, 2009 6:22 am

Some have asked about Methane’s contribution to warming. It is the second biggest greenhouse gas but it should only make a small contribution to the +3.0C by 2100 that is predicted.
Even the IPCC recognized that Methane would peak at some point and probably decline given its short residence time in the atmosphere. It looks like that peak will happen much sooner now (today for instance) and Methane might contribute 0.2C to 0.4C to the 3.0C by 2100 (according to the way the climate models calculate the numbers).

Editor
November 1, 2009 9:20 am

Theres a LOT of things that can be done to reduce CO2 emissions. Fully 10% of all human CO2 emissions come from underground coal fires, most of which are in China and have been spreading for centuries (number 2 is India). Surely putting out these fires would be a lot cheaper than taxing the hell out of all economic activity involving fossil fuels. The US should respond to Copenhagen by demanding an end to underground coal fires globally. It not only adds CO2 to the atmosphere without benefit for humankind, it consumes precious resources that may be needed by future generations.

Back2Bat
November 1, 2009 9:45 am

“It not only adds CO2 to the atmosphere without benefit for humankind, it consumes precious resources that may be needed by future generations.” Mike Lorrey
CO2 is plant food, last I heard. It may well be that coal fires are benefiting humanity by feeding the plants. It is a shame, though, that the energy isn’t being tapped.

November 1, 2009 11:05 am

Long time ago in 1988 I suggested it made more sense to control methane than carbon dioxide. See http://goklany.org/library/preparing-for-CC-1988.pdf (pages 277-78 and table on p. 280). The rationale offered then is still pretty good today (although I don’t think that CH4 is increasing at the rate as it was then):

“The importance of reducing CH4 cannot be overemphasized. See Table 3. Pound-per-pound it has a greater potential for greenhouse warming than carbon-dioxide (CO2). One estimate indicates that it has already contributed about 27% of the total greenhouse warming since pre-industrial times (compared to 59% for carbon dioxide) (Dickinson and Cicerone, 1986). It’s atmospheric concentration is now growing at a faster rate than CO2’s (1.1% per year vs. 0.4% per year) (Wuebbles and Edmonds, 1988). Also CO2 can be beneficial to agriculture and vegetation because it can increase both the photosynthesis rate and drought resistance in many plants (see e.g., Warrick et al., 1986), whereas CH4 has little or no redeeming value associated with it.”

Roger Clague
November 1, 2009 11:06 am

Neither CO2 nor methane cause a planet amosphere to warm. The planet atmospere effect is due to pressure. Venus is hotter than Earth because the pressure at the surface is 90x the presure on Earth. It is not because the atmosphere happens to be mainly CO2.
Even talking about methane as a potential greenhouse gas helps to validate the false claims made for the effects of CO2.

Aligner
November 1, 2009 11:21 am

Martin Brumby (02:15:55)

This methane paper seems to be an attempt to line up the next panic and the next avalanche of research grants for when their CO2 fox gets shot.

Pretty much, except I don’t think they see their fox being shot and it runs deeper than that. This is just reinforcement. Watch for articles in the Guardian next week aimed at useful idiots plus the response. That will tell us more about this latest dynamic. Agriculture will also latch on to this, methane capture from slurry pits and silos, biomass projects, etc. and just like your industry will focus on the subsidy/grant/carbon trading angles too initially. Neither has any cash. Whichever way you look at this mugs’ game it seems to be an amorphous yet inconsistent mix of eco-nuts and ego-nuts oozing everywhere like paint stripper. Ultimately the only thing that’ll contain it is the difference between money and wealth and that has a way to run yet. The UK is bankrupt. Public debt is still increasing at an alarming rate. The euro-fascist project is revving up to max rpm but the engine’s badly in need of a de-coke and not firing the same on all cylinders. There’s an election just around the corner. Things could run off in several directions: Some of them very ugly; others rosy for primary industries. The key is timing so stay sharp and play along for now like this guy. Enjoy!

yonason
November 1, 2009 11:51 am

CRISIS GRAB BAG
Don’t think CO2 or CH4 are the culprits? OK, then, here’s another gas to get behind…
http://theresilientearth.com/?q=content/laughing-gas-knocks-out-co2
Laughing gas isn’t your cup of tea? How about the Oxygen crisis?
http://factsnotfantasy.blogspot.com/2008/08/inventing-next-phony-environmental.html
As long as there are Greenies, there will be crises.

yonason
November 1, 2009 12:02 pm

In case anyone missed my point, we need laws to reduce and drastically limit the level of Greenies.

Back2Bat
November 1, 2009 12:32 pm

“In case anyone missed my point, we need laws to reduce and drastically limit the level of Greenies.” yonason
If and when the government backed counterfeiting cartel is eliminated either by allowing lawful competition and/or by direct abolishment, a lot of silliness will be defunded.
But the true cause of the problem is that this pseudo-capitalism of ours is driving people insane. The central bankers and their supporters are at fault; the Greenies are just a natural reaction to old fashioned dishonest thievery via government privilege.

Back2Bat
November 1, 2009 12:34 pm

Pardon the redundancy, all thievery is dishonest!

Ron de Haan
November 1, 2009 1:07 pm

Laughing Gas Knocks Out CO2
“In the face of ever mounting evidence that CO2 is incapable of causing the level of global devastation prophesied by climate change catastrophists a new villain is being sought. The leading candidate is nitrous oxide (N2O), better known as laughing gas”.
http://theresilientearth.com/?q=content/laughing-gas-knocks-out-co2

yonason
November 1, 2009 1:16 pm

Back2Bat (12:32:46) :
Yes. Minimally (and sanely) regulated Free Marked Capitalism is essential to a decent society, which is why the Greenies and their minions in government do all they can to thwart it.
That’s why they hype all these crises, like [CH4], which according to the NOAA graph I linked above is now stable. The lack of any problem can be seen better by looking at the long term trend for the last century through today….
http://zipcodezoo.com/Trends/Trends%20in%20Atmospheric%20Methane_2.gif
The rapid rise that began in about 1910 and ended about 1990 is over. Perhaps we have achieved a steady state? I don’t know, but it’s clear to me that there is no crisis; not even the hint of one.

Back2Bat
November 1, 2009 2:01 pm

“…which is why the Greenies and their minions in government do all they can to thwart it.” yonason
Not that it matters much, but I wonder if old and/or big money is behind this? It must be frustrating to be rich and see all the peasants prospering. A true meritocracy might really frighten them. It is said that most of the brilliant economists are hired by the Federal Reserve.

yonason
November 1, 2009 3:25 pm

Back2Bat (14:01:13) :
A little too much room for speculation there. I just don’t know enough about what goes on in the minds of the very rich, not that I would turn down the opportunity to, if it ever presented itself.

Back2Bat
November 1, 2009 4:14 pm

“… not that I would turn down the opportunity to, if it ever presented itself.” yonason
Not me, I am comfortable enough. The number of people who avoided selling out on the way to wealth and/or power is remarkably small. Ron Paul is one of the few I know of.

November 1, 2009 4:55 pm

Phlogiston (17:38:38) :
OK cattle in Argentina (farting visible from space!), but why Iraq?

Could it be plain methane= Natural gas being released.

November 1, 2009 5:07 pm

Phlogiston (17:38:38) : That is not Iraq, farther north, it seems Georgia. BTW, are texan cows taking pills against farting?

Paul Vaughan
November 1, 2009 5:10 pm

Re: Roger Carr (02:40:54)
Clarification: I don’t want the price of cheese & yogurt to go up.

Britannic no-see-um
November 1, 2009 5:24 pm

This must be placed in context of the huge volumes of methane involved in totally non-anthropogenic natural gas seepage from sedimentary basins wordwide, largely offshore on the continental margins.A very useful discussion can be found as paper no 2 (Biosphere-geosphere interactions: fluid flow and gas seepage at continental margins), with total methane flux estimates, in
http://ec.europa.eu/research/environment/pdf/deepseefrontier.pdf

November 1, 2009 5:43 pm

There is practically no helium in the Earth’s atmosphere, is there? In fact, helium was completely unknown until it was discovered on the Sun. [Thus the name.]
Just to keep the extremely tiny amount of methane in the atmosphere in perspective:
Methane = 0.00017%
Helium = 0.0005%
Thus, there is about 3.4 times as much [almost non-existent] helium in the atmosphere as methane.

Phlogiston
November 2, 2009 2:30 am

Adolfo Giurfa
Yes the Argentinian methane could be natural. But if it were cattle – it raises an interesting international political issue. There is a plume of methane from Argentina extending over the South Atlantic. It looks like it goes over the British South Georgia Islands, it misses the Falklands but it the wind changed they could potentially also be in line for this methane plume.
Does this qualify as an act of chemical warfare against United Kingdom territory? This blog thread could conceivably then provoke renewed hostilities between Britain and Argentina. Of course, recent history involving Tony Blair and George Bush shows that, if the UK decided to go to war over this issue, it would help if they could allege the creation of WMD (weapons of mass destruction). Could Argentinian cattle qualify as such? Well if not exactly Weapons of Mass Destruction, then possible Weapons of Gastric Ruption?
p.s. you’re probably right about it being Georgia not Iraq. (You should see what they eat in Georgia!)

Phlogiston
November 2, 2009 2:45 am

Adolfo Giurfa
Yes the methane from Argentina could be natural. But if it was from cattle, this could raise an interesting international political issue. Note there is a plume of methane from Argentina extending over the south Atlantic. It reaches the British Islands of St Georgia and could potentially (with a change of wind) also go over the Falkland Islands.
Would this qualify as an act of chemical warfare against United Kingdom territory? In view of recent history involving Tony Blair and George Bush, if the UK chose to go to war over this issue it would help if they could accuse Argentina of stockpiling weapons of mass destruction.
Would Argentinian cattle qualify as such? Well if not weapons of mass destruction (WMD) then maybe weapons of gastric ruption (WGR)?

November 2, 2009 3:13 am

Hilarious that people took exception with the word “regulate”. Perhaps it shows what the real driving force is behind all the naysaying?
(http://ourchangingclimate.wordpress.com/2008/07/31/anything-but-co2/)

Jason
November 2, 2009 5:27 am

If you can correlate the methane output of tobacco against the temperature rise in any of the AGW temperature hockey stick graphs based on global cigarette sales per year you could defuse the whole AGW political debate.
Governments will not go after big tobacco as a possible source of man made global warming, by using their own science methods to point out a relationship would IMHO ultimately defuse the political thrust of their AGW argument. Tobacco accounts for 5.2 billion kilograms of methane per annum.
I’m not a statistician and cant easily get the info necessary to plot the appropriate chart but I’d be willing to bet there would be a massive upward sales trend especially in third world counties over the last ten years.

Don Bunker
November 2, 2009 4:58 pm

149 post and not a single one mentions the “problem” that only recently (2006) have scientist discovered that live plants (as in rain forest) create significant amount of Methane gas. http://www.mpg.de/english/illustrationsDocumentation/documentation/pressReleases/2006/pressRelease20060110/index.html Surely it is impossible and thus quite undesirable to generate fixes for a problem so poorly understood. If it is economical to generate useful power by capturing methane, of course, do it. How can the scientific community still not be blushing????