From the “weather is not climate department”….whether it is cold or snow, long lived records keep falling, and recently in large numbers.
Today, new “minimum high” records fell in a traditionally warm southwest state.
Flagstaff, and Prescott, Williams, and Winslow Arizona all significantly bested the old records set on this date. Here’s the outlook map from the NWS Flagstaff:
And here is the NWS record event report:
FGZ RECORD EVENT REPORT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE FLAGSTAFF, AZ 713 PM MST WED OCT 28 2009 ...RECORD LOW HIGH TEMPERATURES FOR NORTHERN ARIZONA ON OCT 28 2009... CITY (PERIOD OF RECORD) NEW LOW HIGH PREVIOUS RECORD/YEAR FLAGSTAFF (1898 - 2009) 32 35 IN 1996 FORT VALLEY (1909 - 2009) 31 32 IN 1972 GRAND CANYON NP S RIM (1966 - 2009) 36 37 IN 1989 GREER (1905 - 2009) 27 35 IN 1991 HEBER RS (1950 - 2009) 31 36 IN 1976 PAGE (1958 - 2009) 42 48 IN 1996 PHANTOM RANCH (1966 - 2009) 48 58 IN 2000 PRESCOTT (1898 - 2009) 38 46 IN 1996 WILLIAMS (1897 - 2009) 30 39 IN 1996 WINSLOW (1893 - 2009) 43 47 IN 1991 ...RECORD LOW TEMPERATURES FOR NORTHERN ARIZONA ON OCT 28 2009... CITY (PERIOD OF RECORD) NEW LOW PREVIOUS RECORD/YEAR NAVAJO NM (1939 - 2009) 16 19 IN 1970 PHANTOM RANCH (1966 - 2009) 41 41 (TIED) IN 1970 THESE RECORDS ARE PRELIMINARY PENDING OFFICIAL REPORTS.
h/t to Gene Nemetz, now send in the trolls
Speaking of Seth Borenstein….
I see someone at Grist loves him :
I heart Seth Borenstein
http://www.grist.org/article/i-heart-seth-borenstein/
The same fellow doesn’t like Freeman Dyson :
http://www.grist.org/article/2009-10-28-is-freeman-dyson-really-brave
“DaveE (18:12:19) :
How long can it be before the sheeple start asking questions?
DaveE.”
That’s what I’ve been asking my UK freinds to do, but to no avail. They appear to have fallen for AGW hook, line and sinker. They all appear to trust the athorities on the subject an ddon’t have time to ask, reseach and wonder why. I even pointed out the blatant un-science from Dr K. Briffa and his special tree. Nope, sill no good. You can lead a horse to a water hole, but you can’t make it drink.
Didn’t realize Al Gore was in Arizona.
Sigurdur (19:13:27) :
Would that be anywhere near Fargo, North Dakota? It took me 25 years to get out of that god forsaken place 😉
Although, North Dakota does currently have the nations lowest unemployment rate.
cheers!
Sean (18:03:08) :
I wrote the following to Tom Toles of the Washington Post the following note:
“You could have just as easily done a cartoon that had Jim Hansen sanding in a foot of snow wearing a Holloween in Denver saying “this is consistent with the model predictions”.
ROFL!
Jimmy Haigh (19:12:11) :
DaveE (18:12:19) :
How long can it be before the sheeple start asking questions?
Back2Bat (18:27:48) :
It bleats me.
If it gets really ba-ad, maybe then the sheeple will ask what the flock it’s all about.
With any luck, before they’re fleeced.
SaveE.
FFS.
DaveE!
Gene Nemetz (19:16:36) :
Record cold should not be happening all the while the Senate holds hearing on the Global Warming legislation before it, but it is.
Boxer was in a dark mood there and unmistakably short. Even I did not expect the cold to come so quickly the past few years, but come it has.
Fair to say, Gene, that both the Climate and the Weather are in the Penalty box.
Lessons are not learned, mistakes repeated.
This cold is a stark reminder of how we do not control nature, though some have sought to legislate on it.
We are along for the ride, and there’s no opt out.
royfomr (18:59:25) :
Climate is just peer- reviewed weather. Only warm weather is peer-reviewed!
Also, only certain surface stations are allowed by some ‘peers’. The rest aren’t. EMSmith is pointing out that California mountain stations where is it cooler in summer and very cold in winter aren’t used anymore. The ‘peers’ won’t allow them into their world I guess. But the the California surface stations where it’s warmer are accepted by ‘peer-reviewers’. Must be that ‘West Coast bias’.
DaveE (19:50:06) :
With any luck, before they’re fleeced.
It’s very hard to fleece people that are paying attention. So Americans, and the world, need to start paying attention, especially when it comes time to vote.
How long can it be before the sheeple start asking questions?
You bet your sweet bippie they are asking questions right now.
And how.
This run of record cold was NOT supposed to happen, and neither was the nearly non-existant hurricane season. The gardens in a good portion of this country were not supposed to fail from lack of Summer.
What’s missing here is not the sheepie asking questions.
The missing link is that our Leaders are supposed to be taking notice of the Big Chill Change, and saying : “Hey, wait just a doggone minute”.
You know, like what happened when the Coming Ice Age gave way to decades of sizzling summers and bountiful crops?
Hey you, Gore, yeah you. Get over here.
I thought you told us it was going to get hotter faster than anyone had previously imagined. Well, did you just imagine that, or what?
Gene Nemetz (19:57:43) :
Really ruined a nice run of sheep jokes LOL
DaveE.
The other thing to note is that the medium to long range models are way underestimating this. The NAM has had the best day to day consistency and skill on this weather.
This October will go down as the coldest on record in Texas.
The new record low high that really caught my eye was the one for Phantom Ranch, which is at the BOTTOM of the Grand Canyon:
It beat the record established over 43 years by a full TEN degrees.
I was just there on a raft trip down the Colorado River in September of this year, and (lucky for us) it was in the 80s the day we stopped at Phantom Ranch.
48 degrees for a HIGH temp at Phantom Ranch in OCTOBER:
You almost need to have hiked down or floated by on the river, to appreciate how cold that feels for that place WAY down in the bottom of the Canyon this early in the year. I bet there were a bunch of rafters freezing their butts off; expecting that the weather would still be reasonably pleasant this time of year (remember that the water in the Colorado River coming out of the bottom of Glen Canyon dam is COLD).
and it is all just beginning!!!………
yap… pdo cold amo just cooling off…..
hold on to your parkas you’ll need em!
These cold records would not be surprising if only Gore was planning some sort of book tour.
Oh wait…
rbateman (19:55:10) :
Boxer was in a dark mood there and unmistakably short.
Calling Boxer short is over the top — and a bad pun.
[REPLY – But brief. ~ E]
@Austin
“The other thing to note is that the medium to long range models are way underestimating this. The NAM has had the best day to day consistency and skill on this weather.”
It’s not just the medium to long range models, the forecasters here in PDX have complained a couple of times this month how the *short range* (12hr) progs have been unreliable. A couple of weeks ago all the progs were saying that we were supposed to get 1-2″ of rain with minor flooding but we didn’t get a drop of rain.
It is snowing in Mexico (not only the new one). See this:
http://www.natice.noaa.gov/ims/index.htm
select the United States image.
Once you have done that, go back and select the Rutgers University Global Snow Lab. Click on “Daily” and then click on “Chart Departure”. There is not supposed to be any snow in Mexico. In fact, I don’t think I have seen snow in Mexico on this site before…
The chart departure indicates there is millions of square kilometers of extra snow around the northern hemisphere right now. I have watched this site for a few years now. The amount of extra snow is quite amazing.
Tucson for Oct. 29
High temp…… 59 Record low high. Previous record.. 61 in 1961.
Low temps…. 30 degrees below average for the date.
Well, here in Japan, we’re having a relatively mild Autumn – I’m waiting for the cold weather to really kick in but it seems the Japane Met Agency are syaing at least the next few weeks and months will be warmer than average (sounds familiar). Actually, they’re saying the winter season (Dec-Feb) temperatures will be above normal. And I prefer winter too. Maybe I should move to the US – you sure do seem to be getting a nice cold season already 😉
DaveE (20:15:05) :
Opps, sorry. I’ll try to be on my toes next time.
You’re right, a couple were pretty good.
p.s. you’re the DaveE that used to comment a lot on YouTube with gerjanp?
Jimmy Haigh (19:12:11) :
DaveE (18:12:19) :
How long can it be before the sheeple start asking questions?
Back2Bat (18:27:48) :
It bleats me.
If it gets really ba-ad, maybe then the sheeple will ask what the flock it’s all about.
With any luck, before they’re fleeced.
DaveE.
Ewe lot simply don’t know what motivates the sheeple. How often have they demonstrated any sort of ability to ask questions, especially with the modern need to ram education down their collective throats.
However, with the encroaching winter weather in the USA, a woollen coat will be a decided advantage….
“DaveE (20:15:05) :
Gene Nemetz (19:57:43) :
Really ruined a nice run of sheep jokes LOL
DaveE.”
It’s even funnier with Aussies and Kwiws and sheep joks.
Meanwhile back in the land of denial(no not Egypt) the UK met office is still doggedly trying to sell its ‘forecasts’ of a warm/mild winter.
If anyone wants to see denial in action, if you are interested in seeing the result of wishful thinking in action then a visit to the met office site is worth it.
Meanwhile back at the ranch, the Copenhagen scaremongering festival now has a new scare tactic with which to batter a recalcitrant and unwilling population into compliance.
‘climate change refugees’ is the new cunning plan from AAM HQ, as the contrived evidence for AAM collapses around them the alarmists have upped the ante by conflating and misrepresenting normal third world population shifts as refugees fleeing from AAM/AGW/MMCC. Ably assisted by UN agencies placing rumours of aid relief(free food) at various points in the third world, tell poor people that there is free stuff over the next border/mountain/region and those people will be attracted to the aid like a magnet, all it takes is a rumour and desperate people will congregate and the media vultures will be there waiting to take the heart string tugging pictures so beloved of the likes of oxfam et al.
Tell a big enough lie and tell it often enough and there are people who will believe it, join the lies to a visual feed and it becomes very effective.
So now we are being subjected to reports of coastal populations being forced to evacuate and abandon their homes, obviously for that lie to work then the timescale must be ignored completely, after all the scare wont work if people found out it would take centuries at least for sea levels to cause flooding.
Can you imagine the laughter if the scare was reported like this… ‘danger danger run for your lives the great flood is coming we must all flee to high ground NOW because in a hundred years the sea might drown us all’!
We are all climate refugees now? well, in a century or two maybe!