By EDITH M. LEDERER (AP)
Excerpts below.
UNITED NATIONS — Just weeks before an international conference on climate change, the United Nations signaled it was scaling back expectations of reaching agreement on a new treaty to slow global warming.
Janos Pasztor, director of the secretary-general’s Climate Change Support Team, said Monday “it’s hard to say how far the conference will be able to go” because the U.S. Congress has not agreed on a climate bill, and industrialized nations have not agreed on targets to reduce their carbon dioxide emissions or funding to help developing countries limit their discharges.
Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon has made a new climate treaty his top priority, hosting a Sept. 22 summit on climate change to spur political support and traveling extensively to build political momentum for a global agreement to replace the 1997 Kyoto Protocol which only requires 37 industrialized nations to cut emissions.
Pasztor told a news conference “there is tremendous activity by governments in capitals and internationally to shape the outcome” of the climate change conference in Copenhagen, Denmark, in early December, which “is a good development” because political leadership is essential to make a deal.
But he indicated that Copenhagen most likely won’t produce a treaty, but instead will push governments as far as they can go on the content of an agreement.
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Pretty simple,really: the governments of the two countries that represent approx 2.5 billion out of some 6 billion on this planet [ref: China and India] have told the world to go and suck eggs. End of story. The rest is bum fluff.
Gene Nemetz (20:25:55) : “I get the impression that Obama is changing his song on Copenhagen and other things because he is starting to campaign for 2012.”
The song may change, but the dance will still be the kazatsky. Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. Push the pedal to the metal. Make a copy of the Ban Ki-moon editorial. Send it to everyone you know, everyone in your email list. Tell them that global warming is a ploy to install the “world governance structure” as BK-m announced in the New York Times, and that the Democrats and the media are behind it almost 100%.
Perhaps some of the delay in this process….is due to some of the unsettling words from the opposition….such as from Dr. Abdussamatov in Russia:
Over the past decade, global temperature on the Earth has not increased; global warming has ceased, and already there are signs of the future deep temperature drop (Fig. 7, 11).
Meantime the concentration of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere over these years has grown by more than 4%, and in 2006 many meteorologists predicted that 2007 would be the hottest of the last decade. This did not occur, although the global temperature of the Earth would have increased at least 0.1 degree if it depended on the concentration of carbon dioxide. It follows that warming had a natural origin, the contribution of CO2 to it was insignificant, anthropogenic increase in the concentration of carbon dioxide does not serve as an explanation for it, and in the foreseeable future CO2 will not be able to cause catastrophic warming. The so-called greenhouse effect will not avert the onset of the next deep temperature drop, the 19th in the last 7500 years, which without fail follows after natural warming.
The earth is no longer threatened by the catastrophic global warming forecast by some scientists; warming passed its peak in 1998-2005, while the value of the TSI by July – September of last year had already declined by 0.47 W/m2 (Fig. 1).
For several years until the beginning in 2013 of a steady temperature drop, in a phase of instability, temperature will oscillate around the maximum that has been reached, without further substantial rise. Changes in climatic conditions will occur unevenly, depending on latitude. A temperature decrease in the smallest degree would affect the equatorial regions and strongly influence the temperate climate zones. The changes will have very serious consequences, and it is necessary to begin preparations even now, since there is practically no time in reserve. The global temperature of the Earth has begun its decrease without limitations on the volume of greenhouse gas emissions by industrially developed countries; therefore the implementation of the Kyoto protocol aimed to rescue the planet from the greenhouse effect should be put off at least 150 years.
150 years. Them are strong words.
And Russian policy (led by Russian scientists)…is being shaped by this…now.
Yet…in the West….we continue to listen to the lies of the UKMet and the worry that the oceans will boil….
Meanwhile….Mother Nature has the last laugh.
The question is: Will we as a species be prepared?
Well perhaps at least our Russian faction of the same…will be.
Listen to the voice of truth folks, wherever it may be found.
And right now it is coming from Moscow…
Chris
Norfolk, VA, USA
I sure hope you’re right. It’s possible that the Senate could still bring a ‘climate’ bill to the floor, but it will take only a few ‘blue dog’ Democrats to keep it from passing.
But you can bet there’ll be some kind of ‘agreement in principle’ in Copenhagen, and the Alarmists will be back in force in the dark days of winter. I wouldn’t write Crap and Tax’s obituary yet—too many folks see a nice gravy train coming their way. If it fails (or even if it doesn’t) you can be sure the next delight they have in store for us will be a VAT, to pay for the vast expenses of the burgeoning Obamunist state. But my guess is that C&T will keep rearing its ugly head as long as the Democrats control the Congress—unless we can mount a counter-movement to ‘climate change’ alarmism.
What should that be? “Progress and Prosperity, Not Fear of the Future.”
/Mr Lynn
tokyoboy (20:10:10) : “The Arctic sea ice can’t make up its mind how to go ahead?
http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/en/home/seaice_extent.htm”
The Arctic is pumping cold air down over the northern hemisphere in great quantities. Returning warm air is delaying the freeze-up. Any warmth heading poleward now will be rapidly lost to space during the upcoming Arctic night.
Remember that sea ice extent is geometrically bounded by the land around it. The red line should still pass through or near “the knot” at ~November 12th, as it always does.
In the US live literally millions who are currently under oath or in the past have sworn an oath of office which includes the line “I will support and defend the constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic”. This oath is taken by every member of the military, members of the state and federal legislatures, law enforcement officers, judges, and the President. Do not underestimate the intent of most of these people to fulfill that oath.
About a year ago UK Prince Charles said that they had until December of 2009 to institute manditory carbon control over the world or their would come to an end.
I wonder what he ment by that? Does that mean that the dream of the one world government ruled by self elected elietists is over?
For the love of God, just tell the sheeple about the sleepy sun and the solar minimum. When are the TV talking heads tell the people what is going on with the cold weather and the low sun activity, even if it is believed there is no big connection with planetary climate and global cooling because of the low sun activity, the people should be told about the event.
I’m glad we are seeing more stories like this however;
Prominent Russian Scientist: ‘We should fear a deep temperature drop — not catastrophic global warming’
‘Warming had a natural origin…CO2 is ‘not guilty’
http://www.climatedepot.com/a/3515/Prominent-Russian-Scientist-We-should-fear-a-deep-temperature-drop–not-catastrophic-global-warming
“jorgekafkazar (21:03:31) :
…..The red line should still pass through or near “the knot” at ~November 12th, as it always does.”
I will wait and see. Thanks.
Google must be losing the plot too… their carefully placed ad under this story on the main page leads to a company dealing with carbon offsets.
Bulldust (18:05:31) :
I wonder if the Mockton talks have riled the Copenhagen love in somewhat. I see The Australian newspaper has finally picked up on the New World Government concept in a blog (albeit from a very right-wing blogger – Janet Albrechtsen):
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You do Janet a disservice Bull….. Because Australia is so far left, Janet Albrechten’s “very right wing” views are in essence, simply family values, pro Capitalism(the right to own and sell property and to profit from your own endeavour, for those who don’t know what Capitalism is) and a conservative view of maintaining Australian values and democratic freedoms…. Hardly extremism by any measure.
Frederick Michael (20:37:08) :
tokyoboy (20:10:10) :
The Arctic sea ice can’t make up its mind how to go ahead?
http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/en/home/seaice_extent.htm
There’s something funny about that plot. If you download the data, you can directly compare the numbers for 10/27/2007, 10/27/2008 & 10/27/2009 which are, respectively:
7,271,719
8,436,094 and
7,736,563
2009 is closer to 2007 than to 2008 but not by a lot. But the plot makes it look like 2009 is almost tied with 2007 and nowhere near 2008.
WUWT?
http://arctic-roos.org/observations/satellite-data/sea-ice/ice-area-and-extent-in-arctic
Seems to have it right.
Whew. For a while there I thought the lunatics were running the asylum.
Should we rejoice? The measures already in place, no more coal plants or Nuclear power in the west, but any amount in India and China, crippling legislation in every aspect of our production, is enough to destroy our already bankrupt economies and impoverish our citizens.
No what we have to fight for is to destroy the myth that is destroying our economies restore our industries, remove all manner of taxation linked with carbon dioxide and have common sense prevail again.
I love it how China is now the # 1 emitter of CO2, yet it is the US who is still the villain in the piece.
Shurley Knot (18:13:18) :
Drats, one-world government deferred again.
Surely Not deferred only. Disappearing fast on the horizon.
Mr Lynn (20:59:58) :
“I sure hope you’re right. It’s possible that the Senate could still bring a ‘climate’ bill to the floor, but it will take only a few ‘blue dog’ Democrats to keep it from passing.”
The Blue Dogs are a House caucus. In any case, it’s less ideological among Democrats as it is geographical and political. Geographically, Democratic senators from states where most electricity generated is from coal plants (especially places like the Midwest) or are coal-producing (such as West Virginia or Montana) are not going to be overly supportive of massive rate increases due to cap-and-trade. Likewise, Democratic senators from relatively conservative states know their constituents are dead-set against cap-and-trade even if they aren’t relying mostly on coal for power. And of course, we know just about every Republican is against Kerry-Boxer already.
So where does that leave us? Fortunately, far short of the 60 votes needed for this bill to get near becoming law. Of course, there are still hearings to be held (being held actually; first one was Tuesday), amendments and compromises to be offered. But even were a variant of Kerry-Boxer to become law, it would have to be reconciled with the horribly-crafted Waxman-Markey House bill. With health care and other issues looming, I just don’t see action this year as realistic in the Senate, much less the further Senate-House conference taking place and hammering out all the differences, and keeping it modified enough to get the votes in both chambers. You never know, but my prediction would be no floor action at all in the Senate this year.
They will try for a Senate midnight run, or a Saturday Night Special private session.
I think they are playing a game, they have come so far and will not let up easily. We are getting the ongoing propoganda in the old media and there still will be method to their supposed madness.
The Foreign Secretary accused the public yesterday of lacking a sense of urgency in the face of the potentially devastating consequences of climate change. David Miliband said that people had grown apathetic about the issue when they needed to be galvanized into action before the Copenhagen climate change summit in December.
–Hannah Devlin, The Times, 23 October 2009
Make me laugh!
AGW not over till the fat man sings.
Keep up with the attacks and pound in the stake of truth and save humanity from all evil doers. We have yet to bring it.
They are trying to make their critics lower the guard, be content and go away so that we don’t keep pointing out how hysterical their science journalism and press releases are during the build up to Copenhagen.
FatBigot:
“fluffy animals will be defluffed”
ROTFLMAO!
It is noteworthy that as the public vilification of the UK Parliamentary expenses scandal reached 500 decibels and that general knowledge of the full extent of European Parliament Gravy Train activities becomes widely known, that the Europeans in particular are looking for new gravy trains, namely global ones. The Third World is also looking for new gravy trains as greater scrutiny comes on UN and national government programmes.
None of this addresses the main problem.
What do these people actually DO that is worth the money they take?
Climate Change Secretary Ed Miliband was on Channel 4 News last night, here in the UK, talking about Copenhagen.
Viewer: “If a consensus is not reached what will the next step be for the United Kingdom?”
Ed: “We will carry on doing the things we have promised to do. Cut our emissions by 34 per cent by 2020 but there’s no plan B here. And actually not having a plan B is quite important.”
So there we have it. No plan B. No contingencies, no alternative, no backup plan if the real world doesn’t play ball? Really?
Now colour me cynical if you like, but I think there is always a plan B somewhere. However, they won’t want to talk about it, and we won’t get to hear about it. For a while yet, anyway.