Gore / Nazis – two words I thought I’d never see together, and never wanted to. Yet here it is in a story in the Times Online. Surprisingly, Hollywood has been exploiting this linkage for years. I suppose the appearance of a proof of Godwins Law was inevitable, given how long the global warming discussion and Gore have gone on.
Does anyone else besides me get the impression that Al Gore is really reaching now? At the end of this post, Mr. Gore listed only two possible future questions, I’m sure our readers can fill in some of the missing ones. – Anthony
Addendum: I wonder, did Gore get paid for this speaking engagement “sponsored by The Times” and if so, is The Times responsible for creating this “news” where there would be none otherwise? – Anthony
UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE:
The Times : before and after – click for larger images – thanks to Kate for the 3rd one
Apparently reacting to criticism, The Times has changed the title of the article to remove the word Nazi, and the title takes an entirely different meaning. See the before and after screencaps above. (thanks to Bishop Hill) There is no mention of why. But they forgot to change the base HTML which still has the original title.
At right is The Times story headline now and the HTML source of the page showing the original title intact. Click thumbnails.
Here below is my original link to the story, unchanged:
Al Gore likens fight against climate change to battle with Nazis
So, Al addresses a group of fellow travelers consisting of government employees (“climate scientists”) and third world politicians whose interest is in conning big money out of the west in the name of global warming, and we are supposed to….what?
First Obama and now Gore insult Winston Churchill, the man who saved civilization. (And I’m a Yank).
I do not like the analogy. Most will agree the Nazi’s were evil. (perhaps not the worst ever, but very high on the list) I would like to think Gore & Co. are just misguided. (some may say ignorant or stupid) The Skeptics are not trying to impose their will on the world, just working to prevent the Warmers from doing so.
In the eternal struggle between Good and Evil, I realized Good threw in the towel a long time ago. The real struggle is now between Evil and Stupid.
While Evil has better organization, Stupid has a preponderance of numbers.
If they join forces, we are doomed. {and a few snips as well}
“He said sceptics who refused to believe dramatic cuts in carbon emissions could be delivered should consider the example of the young scientists in the NASA team which put a man on the moon on 1969”
Where did Werhner Von Braun, Ernst Stuhlinger, Konrad Dannenberg and the other boys come from?
The spirit of Winston Churchill would tell Gore to get stuffed. He was nothing if not pragmatic; something that Gore could never be in a gazillion years.
Now that’s what I call pounding the table. When you have nothing left, take your hyperbolic rhetoric from the ridiculous to the ludicrous (and perhaps, even insulting).
And all of this hyperbole surfaces in the face of global temperature anomalies pegged at the 20th Century benchmark and polar ice within one SD of historical norms. How can it be that such statements can be made in the absence of empirical proof?
Such absurdities lend me to become increasingly suspect that the Cloward-Piven Strategy of manufactured crises is at play here. Perhaps the argument needs to shift from discussing the climate data per se to revelations of the disingenuous political strategies at work that intend to radically change the fundamental socio-economic structure of the country.
Gearing up for Copenhagen – http://tcktcktck.org/
He must realize the enforcement of any CO2 reduction programme, will have to involve a “green police force” that checks to make sure we are not emitting GHGs without paying the piper. It will start with the energy companies, and from there expand into every activity that people associate with modern living.
I don’t know how any rational human being could think that is comparable to fighting the nazis. It is much more like inviting the nazis to run our lives, and do so in a way that “benefits the collective, while crushing a few non-conformers”.
He compares this to “fighting nazis, and landing a man on the moon”, but forgot to compare it to “The War on Poverty” or “The War on Drugs”. I wonder why???
As an aside, there’s no indication that Churchill was ever an environmentalist. Hitler, however, was and just look what HE did. Just thought I’d mention that little factoid.
John B (09:23:25) :
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” one might be tempted to compare Gore to Hitler”
How about comparing him to Stalin?
Both flunked divinity school, both globally influential politicians and both where great fans of Lysenkoism.
Is the climate warming or cooling?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/climatechange/2009/07/is_the_climate_warming_or_cool.html#comments
Sorry – cannot type… …am laughing (and crying) too hard.
Am surprised Gore did not invoke the “Dark Side of the Force”.
My neighbour and my friend! My poor dear America! What will become of you?
What? Al is misinformed the War with the Nazi’s isn’t over as this proves: http://pathstoknowledge.wordpress.com/2009/06/03/nazis-in-space-attacking-earth-from-the-moon-how-cool-is-that/ ;–).
I guess he’s running out of actual arguments and people who will listen to his Doom and Gloom Soothsaying ( http://pathstoknowledge.wordpress.com/2009/02/23/living-in-the-shadow-of-soothsayers/ ).
Gore’s crying wolf is getting old.
Seems to that the warmenist’s “we-must-do-something-just-in-case” logic is a parallel of Pascal’s Wager, with “climate change” taking the place of God:
The existence of God can’t be proved/disproved.
Human causes for climate change can’t be proved/disproved.
Reasonable men should act as though God exists, there is nothing to lose.
Reasonable men should act as though humans are to blame, there is… waitaminute.
Well, at least the first part is applicable.
If you see a downward slope in temperature-trends its weather.
If you see record breaking snowfall its weather.
if you see nothing happening its Global Warming.
From a rather famous German joke during the later stages of the War.
If you see a green plane, its British.
If you see a silver plane, its an American.
If you see nothing, its our mighty Luftwaffe.
fredlightfoot (09:10:46) :
My sentiments exactly!
Dear Ron de Haan, indeed, it is just a coincidence that I wrote the polar bear story and added the logo. It is not just a swastika – it is a swastika superimposed on the Greenpeace logo, and they seem to be rotating in the same direction which is surely a coincidence, too. 😉
I am just reading Anthony’s article for the first time.
Actually, Gore is probably right for once: I bet future generations will indeed be asking, “What were you thinking?” Only they’ll be asking it of Gore, Hansen, Obama, Pelosi, Waxman, Mann, Monbiot, Greenpeace, the IPCC…
The only similarities I see between the Nazis and Global Warming are in the rhetoric and propaganda used by Hitler and Gore to mislead the masses and in the crimes against humanity that both the Nazis and Albert Arnold Gore Jr. are responsible for. Al Gore should be held responsible for the impact of every dollar that should have been spent on development aid for food, clean water, vitamins, medical services, farming instruction, disaster relief, etc. and was instead funneled into his phony fight against global warming. Furthermore, if Earth continues to cool and significant crop failures occur, Al Gore should be held responsible for every starving person, because he has led the world to waste immense resources preparing for global warming, while Earth has entered a period of cooling.
Al Gore has positioned himself to become one of the most disgraced figures in human history and hopefully he will live out his life in a prison cell.
So, if emitting CO2 is the equivalent of gassing the Jews, doesn’t that make Gore a Nazi too?
Time out Algore. We are an organic economy. We metabolize and consume water, O2 and Carbon. From what i can tell, we have never had inorganic life cycles. Maybe algore misunderstand biology. If Algore shed some blubber, it would not feel so hot. Putting on the pounds is what bears do for winter. His subconscious mind tells him it is going to get cold and stock up on the carbs or freeze.
oakgeo says:
‘Its like a left-wing version of McCarthyism.’
This is a great analogy since the ‘science’ of McCarthyism was settled when the Russians opened the KGB files in the 1990’s. McCarthy was largely proven correct. Many of his targets really were foreign agents funded by the KGB . Even with ‘settled science’ on his posthumous side, McCarthy is still a liberal chew toy.
Will ‘science’ be any more relevant in this liberal grab for power and wealth?
A strong part of the Nazi ideology and Teutonic religion they were building had a radical environmental streak running through it.
http://www.spunk.org/texts/places/germany/sp001630/peter.html
And there is a Nazi Green party in existence using the nazi.org domain
http://www.nazi.org/nazi/policy/environmentalism/
Gore’s comments are totally irresponsible.
Some unbalanced “true believer” is going to take these comments as justification to destroy property or harm individuals.
Mark my word. It will happen and it will be “glamorized” by the Main Street Media.