OK, so my art is a bit tongue in cheek. But it does fit the disaster theme of the topic.
This op-ed piece in the Herald Sun is interesting, because it touches on many of the points covered here on WUWT. This is the first time I’ve seen all these collected in one article in a major newspaper. Andrew Bolt routinely uses material from WUWT, and this is the first time I’ve been able to reciprocate. There are some truly unique points raised by Bolt that are indigenous to Australia that we haven’t discussed here, but they are valid for discussion nonetheless. In cases where we have covered a point on WUWT, I’ve made a footnote link [in brackets] – Anthony
From Andrew Bolt, The Herald Sun
Global Warming Alarmists Out in the Cold
April 29, 2009 12:00am
IT’S snowing in April. Ice is spreading in Antarctica. The Great Barrier Reef is as healthy as ever.
And that’s just the news of the past week. Truly, it never rains but it pours – and all over our global warming alarmists.
Time’s up for this absurd scaremongering. The fears are being contradicted by the facts, and more so by the week.
Doubt it? Then here’s a test.
Name just three clear signs the planet is warming as the alarmists claim it should. Just three. Chances are your “proofs” are in fact on my list of 10 Top Myths about global warming.And if your “proofs” indeed turn out to be false, don’t get angry with me.
Just ask yourself: Why do you still believe that man is heating the planet to hell? What evidence do you have?
So let’s see if facts matter more to you than faith, and observations more than predictions.
MYTH 1
THE WORLD IS WARMING
Wrong. It is true the world did warm between 1975 and 1998, but even Professor David Karoly, one of our leading alarmists, admitted this week “temperatures have dropped” since – “both in surface temperatures and in atmospheric temperatures measured from satellites”. In fact, the fall in temperatures from just 2002 has already wiped out a quarter of the warming our planet experienced last century. (Check data from Britain’s Hadley Centre, NASA’s Aqua satellite and the US National Climatic Data Centre.)
Some experts, such as Karoly, claim this proves nothing and the world will soon start warming again. Others, such as Professor Ian Plimer of Adelaide University, point out that so many years of cooling already contradict the theory that man’s rapidly increasing gases must drive up temperatures ever faster.
But that’s all theory. The question I’ve asked is: What signs can you actually see of the man-made warming that the alarmists predicted?
[ Ian Plimer, Temperature trends]
MYTH 2
THE POLAR CAPS ARE MELTING
Wrong. The British Antarctic Survey, working with NASA, last week confirmed ice around Antarctica has grown 100,000 sq km each decade for the past 30 years.
Long-term monitoring by the US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration reports the same: southern hemisphere ice has been expanding for decades.
As for the Arctic, wrong again.
The Arctic ice cap shrank badly two summers ago after years of steady decline, but has since largely recovered. Satellite data from NASA’s Marshall Space Flight Centre this week shows the Arctic hasn’t had this much April ice for at least seven years.
Norway’s Nansen Environmental and Remote Sensing Centre says the ice is now within the standard deviation range for 1979 to 2007.
[Antarctic Ice Growth, Arctic Ice Recovery ]
MYTH 3
WE’VE NEVER HAD SUCH A BAD DROUGHT
Wrong. A study released this month by the University of NSW Climate Change Research Centre confirms not only that we’ve had worse droughts, but this Big Dry is not caused by “global warming”, whether man-made or not.
As the university’s press release says: “The causes of southeastern Australia’s longest, most severe and damaging droughts have been discovered, with the surprise finding that they originate far away in the Indian Ocean.
“A team of Australian scientists has detailed for the first time how a phenomenon known as the Indian Ocean Dipole – a variable and irregular cycle of warming and cooling of ocean water – dictates whether moisture-bearing winds are carried across the southern half of Australia.”
MYTH 4
OUR CITIES HAVE NEVER BEEN HOTTER
Wrong. The alleged “record” temperature Melbourne set in January – 46.4 degrees – was in fact topped by the 47.2 degrees the city recorded in 1851. (See the Argus newspaper of February 8, 1851.)
And here’s another curious thing: Despite all this warming we’re alleged to have caused, Victoria’s highest temperature on record remains the 50.7 degrees that hit Mildura 103 years ago.
South Australia’s hottest day is still the 50.7 degrees Oodnadatta suffered 37 years ago. NSW’s high is still the 50 degrees recorded 70 years ago.
What’s more, not one of the world’s seven continents has set a record high temperature since 1974. Europe’s high remains the 50 degrees measured in Spain 128 years ago, before the invention of the first true car.
MYTH 5
THE SEAS ARE GETTING HOTTER
Wrong. If anything, the seas are getting colder. For five years, a network of 3175 automated bathythermographs has been deployed in the oceans by the Argo program, a collaboration between 50 agencies from 26 countries.
Warming believer Josh Willis, of NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory, reluctantly concluded: “There has been a very slight cooling . . .”
MYTH 6
THE SEAS ARE RISING
Wrong. For almost three years, the seas have stopped rising, according to the Jason-1 satellite mission monitored by the University of Colorado.
That said, the seas have risen steadily and slowly for the past 10,000 years through natural warming, and will almost certainly resume soon.
But there is little sign of any accelerated rises, even off Tuvalu or the Maldives, islands often said to be most threatened with drowning.
Professor Nils-Axel Moerner, one of the world’s most famous experts on sea levels, has studied the Maldives in particular and concluded there has been no net rise there for 1250 years.
Venice is still above water.
[Sea Level in the Maldives, Sea Level satellite data]
MYTH 7
CYCLONES ARE GETTING WORSE
Wrong. Ryan Maue of Florida State University recently measured the frequency, intensity and duration of all hurricanes and cyclones to compile an Accumulated Cyclone Energy Index.
His findings? The energy index is at its lowest level for more than 30 years.
The World Meteorological Organisation, in its latest statement on cyclones, said it was impossible to say if they were affected by man’s gases: “Though there is evidence both for and against the existence of a detectable anthropogenic signal in the tropical cyclone climate record to date, no firm conclusion can be made on this point.”
[Ryan Maue and Hurricane energy, Hurricane landfall trends]
MYTH 8
THE GREAT BARRIER REEF IS DYING
Wrong. Yes, in 1999, Professor Ove Hoegh-Gulberg, our leading reef alarmist and administrator of more than $30 million in warming grants, did claim the reef was threatened by warming, and much had turned white.
But he then had to admit it had made a “surprising” recovery.
Yes, in 2006 he again warned high temperatures meant “between 30 and 40 per cent of coral on Queensland’s Great Barrier Reef could die within a month”.
But he later admitted this bleaching had “minimal impact”. Yes, in 2007 he again warned that temperature changes of the kind caused by global warming were bleaching the reef.
But this month fellow Queensland University researchers admitted in a study that reef coral had once more made a “spectacular recovery”, with “abundant corals re-established in a single year”. The reef is blooming.
MYTH 9
OUR SNOW SEASONS ARE SHORTER
Wrong. Poor snow falls in 2003 set off a rash of headlines predicting warming doom. The CSIRO typically fed the hysteria by claiming global warming would strip resorts of up to a quarter of their snow by 2018.
Yet the past two years have been bumper seasons for Victoria’s snow resorts, and this year could be just as good, with snow already falling in NSW and Victoria this past week.
[New low temp record at Australian ski resort this year]
MYTH 10
TSUNAMIS AND OTHER DISASTERS ARE GETTING WORSE
Are you insane? Tsunamis are in fact caused by earthquakes. Yet there was World Vision boss Tim Costello last week, claiming that Asia was a “region, thanks to climate change, that has far more cyclones, tsunamis, droughts”.
Wrong, wrong and wrong, Tim. But what do facts matter now to a warming evangelist when the cause is so just?
And so any disaster is now blamed on man-made warming the way they once were on Satan. See for yourself on www.numberwatch.co.uk/warmlist.htm the full list, including kidney stones, volcanic eruptions, lousy wine, insomnia, bad tempers, Vampire moths and bubonic plagues. Nothing is too far-fetched to be seized upon by carpetbaggers and wild preachers as signs of a warming we can’t actually see.
Not for nothing are polar bears the perfect symbol of this faith – bears said to be threatened by warming, when their numbers have in fact increased.
Bottom line: fewer people now die from extreme weather events, whether cyclones, floods or blinding heatwaves.
Read that in a study by Indur Goklany, who represented the US at the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change: “There is no signal in the mortality data to indicate increases in the overall frequencies or severities of extreme weather events, despite large increases in the population at risk.”
[Going down – death rates due to extreme weather events]
So stop this crazy panic.
First step: check again your list of the signs you thought you saw of global warming. How many are true? What do you think, and why do you think it?
Yes, the world may resume warming in one year or 100. But it hasn’t been warming as the alarmists said it must if man were to blame, and certainly not as the media breathlessly keeps claiming.
Best we all just settle down, then, and wait for the proof — the real proof. After all, panicking over invisible things is so undignified, don’t you think?
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DJ (16:21:12) :
“Snow in April is nothing new in OZ”
Not sure where you get your information from. It hasn’t snowed in during April Australia for over a decade according to HeraldSun.com.au. They also reported that the last two ski seasons were bumper seasons as they also were across the ditch here in NZ. The ski field weather gurus in Aussie are predicting another bumper season this year.
One of our local NZ ski fields got 45 cm of snow dumped on it during the last 48 hours with another freezing weather system predicted to blow through next week. This aging person (and keen skier) cannot remember the last time we had significant snow this time of the year. Incidentally DJ last year was also a bumper ski season here.
http://www.nzski.com/cameras.jsp?site=mthutt
When was the last time snow fell simultaneously (or nearly so) in Australia, and California? (from NOAA and National Weather Service, May 1, 2009):
“A WARM AND WET LATE SEASON PACIFIC LOW WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE
ACROSS NORTHERN CALIFORNIA THROUGH TONIGHT…BRINGING PERIODS OF
MODERATE TO HEAVY SNOWFALL TO THE HIGHEST ELEVATIONS OF THE
NORTHERN SIERRA NEVADA…WESTERN PLUMAS COUNTY…AND LASSEN PARK.
SNOW LEVELS ARE STILL RUNNING BETWEEN 7000 AND 8000 FEET THIS
AFTERNOON…BUT WILL LOWER THIS EVENING AND TONIGHT TO BETWEEN
6000 AND 7000 FEET. SNOW ACCUMULATIONS TONIGHT WILL BE UP TO 4
INCHES AT THE LOWER ELEVATIONS AND NEAR A FOOT AT ELEVATIONS ABOVE 7000 FEET.” (that is 25 to 30 cm above 2100 meters)
apologies for the all-caps format, but that is how the NWS writes. No intent to “shout.”
Good on ya, cobber! (cue Waltzing Matilda, coincidentally also the official song of the US 1st Marine Division)
[whenever I meet an Englishman, I always tell them I’ve had five English bosses, if you count Australians. The Pommeys get bulging neck veins from this routine, which is of course the goal, but unfortunately it also has the side-effect of pissing-off the Australians. To make amends, I usually cite the Battle of Gallipoli, in which the British fought to the last Ozzie (or, if you like, Kiwi or Canuck, take your pick)]
This reminds me of the old Nevil Shute book (and movie with Ava Gardner!) ON THE BEACH, in which the Ozzies are the last folks alive after a global nuclear holocaust.
In this case, we’ve apparently had a global genocide of common sense, with the last remaining bits taking up residence in Australia. I guess that’s why it’s God’s Country.
James Allison (17:40:19)
James, the Herald Sun is not quite correct. In 2004 or 2005 I went to the Snowies over the ANZAC weekend, (late April). They had blizzards on top of the alps on the 25th April. On the 26th I walked from the top of Thredbo to the summit of Koszuisko in snow all the way. Have a great photo of myself standing at the Cairn on Kosi in a Blizzard on April 26th. So it does snow in April, BUT, the snow we saw last week in AUS is extremely unusual if not unprecendented it terms of the depth AND the low elevation that it fell to. Up to 500 metres lower for snow settling last week than my experience of 5 years or so ago.
Obviously, the reason for the the cooling going on now is because we changed our incendenscant light bulbs to florescent! Amazing the effect such a small change can make to the climate and its sparing effect on the ice of the polar regions!
Do you have global warming? Symptoms may include:
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And artificial insemination.
“DJ (16:21:12) :
A nice demonstration of the sceptic echo chamber bouncing inaccurate tid-bits around the globe. “
Whose fault is that? It’s the fault of the AGW’ers who keep crying wolf.
If they had a lick of sense about them, they’d be off on a more sensible bandwagon, namely conserving energy. Making corporate & industrial more energy efficient, just like the consumers did in the 70’s.
No, instead, they preach manfire and drowning.
If you want to save the planet, get a plan that doesn’t insult everyone’s intelligence as a global Ponzi scheme that everyone knows will only fill pockets already leaking cash.
Stop yelling fire on a crowded planet.
???? “Snow in April is nothing new in OZ” ?????
This will be the first year on record in Oz that some ski fields will open on May 1. The current snow depths may not last long but are extraordinary for this time of year!
Check our the snowcams here…
http://ski.com.au/snowcams/australia/nsw/thredbo/thredbo6.html
DJ:
We’ve missed you! Where have you been? The entertainment factor at WUWT has been trending down with your absence.
Others don’t seem to agree with your Answer #1. Only 9 more to go.
DJ on this totally wrong about our snow seasons in Victoria.
The last 2 years have been excellent snow seasons in Victoria. He knows that, and is making the story up to suit his agenda.
Here`s one for you DJ:
http://globalfreeze.wordpress.com/2009/05/01/mount-buller-has-the-earliest-start-to-the-snow-season-ever/
I strive not to become a cynical old coot but faced with evidence climate is behaving as it has naturally for eons whilst people react like they’ve lost all concept of weather, climate or history batters me into a rude corner.
I wonder how much AWG support is spawned by those trying to salvage investment made in failing alternate energy?
We need to respond to inevitable climate change, not react. There is a huge difference.
Thanks everyone…this site kicks ass!
DJ (16:21:12) :
You misunderstand the term “echo chamber,” DJ. The echo chamber is RealClimate and other alarmist blogs that delete/censor uncomfortable posts that disprove what they believe.
WUWT is not like that. You get to post here, don’t you? Therefore, WUWT does not fit the definition of “echo chamber.” QED.
Now, may I post something that will torture the true believers? Thank you: click.
I like to pull the wings off flies, too.
“The snow season last year was not a bumper one nor was 2007. They were both very poor seasons overall – very short, very little overall snowfall and marked by very warm and dry conditions in spring (hyped by industry and “sceptics” –
I’m an Aussie and I started skiing in 1966. The worst season I can remember was actually 1972 and not 2003. Last year was definitely a bumper year in the Snowy’s with very cold late winter temperatures. I was cross country skiing at only 1300m ASL here in NSW during August and doing it on a 1.5m (5 ft) cover of fast dry powder which is definitely not normal. August was 3 degrees C below average.
if global warming is here and last year’s snow season is the stereotypical AGW season then I’m breaking out the ski wax now and booking my 10 day holiday.
hareynolds (18:04:59) :
My nomination for quote of the week.
“I’m an Aussie and I started skiing in 1966. The worst season I can remember was actually 1972 and not 2003. ”
Correction to that. The worst year was 1973 and not 1972.
But it was 36 years ago so I can be forgiven for the memory error.
Smokey says:
That doesn’t actually prove anything. I have seen plenty of comments from the “skeptic” point of view over at RealClimate.
As for the “echo chamber” effect, I don’t think it is strictly necessary to have no postings from the other point-of-view in order to become an echo chamber, although I suppose this depends on your definition. I think it was fairly clear from DJ’s post at least roughly what he meant by his use of the term.
Roger Sowell (17:26)
Nice summary and rebuttals.
Since these are the EPA’s own findings, would this be an effective outline for a letter as part of the EPA’s call for comments?
thanks
David LM (18:38:26)
Thanks for the eye-witness account. What the AGW fear camp is doing is spreading falsehoods about places halfway around the world. It works as long at the folks who know better halfway around the world keep quiet.
I just love the picture of the USS Skate.
Just like I admired it 50 something years ago.
George Monbiot of the Guardian is a embarrassment to a newspaper I used to respect and read daily many decades ago. Like many other AGWers, he is absolutely blinkered to the point where he even continues to believe in the Mann hockey stick and the pronouncements of the IPCC. So strong is his faith in AGW that I sincerely doubt he would change his mind even if the rest of the world thought otherwise. Such is the AGW religion.
Robert Bateman (18:17:16) :
STOP! You are making too much sense! Back into your echo chamber!!!!! No more thinking in public!
Good ol’ Bolt. Just keeps plugging away at the Catastrophists and Carbophobes. They hate facts and criticism…. specially when they have declared the debate over 😉
O/T, but I really love my kids, and I can understand how people like DJ want to save the world, but what they keep forgetting is stuff like this:
http://www.worldonfire.ca/
All on $100,000. How much would that video have cost with cap and trade prices in place? I am, of course, referring to the generators, ambulances, and such.
hareynolds said “…we’ve apparently had a global genocide of common sense…”
Brilliant! I second the nomination for quote of the week.
Myth #N: Coral Reefs Dying
Coral reefs etc are growing well.
See: Craig Idso – Carbon Dioxide, Global Warming, and Coral Reefs: Prospects for the Future (PowerPoint) (Listen to Audio) (Play Video) (Download Video) 2009 International Climate Conference on Climate Change
Myth #N+1 Oceans are become acidic
This conveniently ignores the almost infinite buffering capacity of ocean salts.
See: Tom Segalstad – Carbon Isotope Mass Balance Modeling of Atmospheric vs. Oceanic CO2 (PowerPoint) (Listen to Audio) (Play Video) (Download Video)
e.g., “Carbon dioxide has a lifetime of about 5 years in the atmosphere.”
“The upper 200m has enough Ca to bind ALL remaining fossil fuel CO2 as calcium carbonate.”
Instead of trusting the easily found numbers, someone did a literature review of how much methane is oxidized (consumed) as it passes through dirt which covers landfills. The researcher found 22-55% was oxidized (15 sites studied over a year had 11-89%); the mean was around 35%. Of 42 determinations, 4 measured oxidization under 11%.
http://jeq.scijournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/38/2/654
The IPCC has numbers. 0-10%. The USEPA recommends using 10% due to uncertainty. Maybe 10% is a little low.
Literature review, not new research. Isn’t that what the IPCC claims it does?