Spring voting chooses Blue States/Red States

Guest post by Steven Goddard

Weather is not climate, but 49 out of 50 states agree – spring is getting off to a cold start.

NCEP temperature forecast - click image for source

How will these blue states vote on “cap and trade?”  Someone needs to take responsibility for this runaway global warming, which is purported by a top scientist from the University of Colorado to be killing off the ski industry .

Tuesday, December 16, 2008

DENVER – A study of two Rocky Mountain ski resorts says climate change will mean shorter seasons and less snow

Winter 2007-2008 was the snowiest ski season on record in Colorado.

Eight Colorado ski resorts see record snow

Silverton Mountain, which stopped running lifts Sunday, reported the greatest record-breaking snowfall, with 550 inches. Steamboat came in second, with 489 inches.

January, 2008 was the snowiest month on record in the Northern Hemisphere, with nine out of the last eleven January’s above normal.

http://climate.rutgers.edu/snowcover/png/monthlyanom/nhland01.png

Source: http://climate.rutgers.edu/snowcover/png/monthlyanom/nhland01.png

So how is the current ski season looking? Wolf Creek ski area in southwestern Colorado has received a paltry 10 metres of snow so far this winter.

Summit Base Depth : 110 inches

Last 24 Hours : 1 inch

Last 48 Hours : 2 inches

Last 72 Hours : 2 inches

Midway Base Depth : 105 inches

Last 7 Days : 20 inches

Latest Storm : 2 inches

Year to Date : 398 inches

with lots more snow on the way.

Accuweather snow forecast for this weekend

But remember – weather is not climate. and computer models should always supersede observation.

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John F. Hultquist
April 3, 2009 1:29 pm

It is still snowing on the Cascade Mtns. Link to The Summit at Snoqualmie and other resorts is here:
http://www.onthesnow.com/washington/the-summit-at-snoqualmie/skireport.html
Snow in the past 24 hrs. 48 hrs. 72 hrs.
12 in. 22 in. 33 in. Cumulative depth = 113 in.
I prefer horses to skis – not much riding weather so far this year.

philw1776
April 3, 2009 1:30 pm

Despite another big snowfall year and cold spring here in NH the voters have elected a complete slate of AGW alarmists to congress the senate and the governor’s office. Cognitive dissonance abounds.

Austin
April 3, 2009 1:31 pm

The water system in much of California was put into place by farmers and paid for by farmers.
The current population is > 50% urban and increasingly so.
However, the per capita level of investment in water has fallen off dramatically and most of the money now is spent maintaining the system built by and for farmers.
The fiscal and engineering structure of the current system is unsustainable by any measure.
In fact, most of the public institutions in California are suffering from the same issues – education, transportation, housing, tax base, business, you name it, are now all unsustainable because debt is being used to finance consumption/maintenance rather than adding new capacity or increasing efficiencies.

Bill Illis
April 3, 2009 1:39 pm

A near miss – the Gore effect nearly gets Vegas in April.
Snow hit parts of southern Nevada this aft (and not far from Las Vegas according to the radar).
http://www.accuweather.com/radar-state.asp?partner=accuweather&traveler=0&zipChg=1&zipcode=89101&metric=0&site=NV_&anim=1
Yup, Gore was in town today.
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2009/apr/03/gore-technology-key-economic-turnaround/

April 3, 2009 2:00 pm

Thinking….when “fatty goree” refers to global warming, is he not unconsciously trying to let us know he is suffering of burning hemorrhoids?

April 3, 2009 2:03 pm

“University of Colorado-Boulder geography professor Mark Williams said Monday that the resorts should be in fairly good shape the next 25 years.”
Really, quoting CU professors on anything serious is the moral equivalent of beating up on women and small children.
We can’t even get rid of Ward Churchill, after 6 or 7 faculty committees found him guilty of plagiarism and deliberate falsification of history (not to mention his phony claim to be an Indian).
As elsewhere, the ski resorts are in great shape and a major storm is moving in now (Friday pm), with blizzard conditions fcst for Denver.

Mr Green Genes
April 3, 2009 2:18 pm

One wonders which country Flanagan views as his. It’s clearly not the US, as most people on here (I guess) are posting from there right now and it seems a little on the chilly side from what they are saying.
It’s clearly not the UK either (at least not England) as that’s where I am. Here the temperature has been around 13 -16 C for the last few days, little rain, quite high pressure (no wind so no “alternative energy” from that source) and some morning mist and fog coming in from the North Sea, even where I am which is 70 miles west of London. Also, before driving to the station, I’ve been having to scrape global warming off my windscreen this year too, which is quite unusual for early April.
If it were 10C above normal here, that would imply that the normal for this time of year was approaching freezing point. Hmmm…
Funny old world, isn’t it?

Squidly
April 3, 2009 2:23 pm

Al Gore:
“Without sustained action, he warned, temperatures could rise 11 degrees in the next 100 years with catastrophic results as ice and snow melt at unprecedented rates, raising the level of the ocean while creating droughts devastating to agriculture and promoting the spread of tropical diseases out of the tropics.”

Now its 11 degrees!? WUWT???
Gets better everyday… When does it finally get to a point where people just say “look, your out of your cotton pickin’ mind!” ??

pkatt
April 3, 2009 2:26 pm

Bill Illis (13:39:05) : A near miss – the Gore effect nearly gets Vegas in April.
AH HA!!! I knew it! Tell him he missed:P

hereticfringe
April 3, 2009 2:26 pm

Anthony,
Speaking of temperatures, Dr. Spencer posted the March update:
http://www.drroyspencer.com/latest-global-temperatures/

Randall
April 3, 2009 2:29 pm

It’s funny that skiing is not vilified by environmentalists. You drive up to the mountain, park, and go up and down all day then drive home. A lot of fossil fuels are burned to enable this.
On the other hand its fun. I went skiing at Eldora just up the road from CU Boulder today. The snow was great with 3-4″ of fresh powder and more on the way. If tonight’s and tomorrow’s storm is as expected, I might enjoy more than a foot of new snow on Sunday.

April 3, 2009 2:49 pm

Speaking of anecdotes, my informants tell me that business receipts are down 30% this winter at Aspen. It has nothing to do with the snow, and everything to do with the ECONOMY.
Someday soon, people will again vote their pocketbooks. I feel sure of that. When it happens, AGW will be consigned to the dustbin of history.

Aron
April 3, 2009 3:02 pm

Hot In Here is the theme song for Al Gore : The Movie
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/8472/n1231244237393770194272.jpg
“(I said)
It’s gettin’ hot in here (so hot)
So take off all your clothes
I am gettin’ so hot
(uh uh uh uh)
I wanna take my clothes off
Oh it’s gettin’ hot in here (so hot)
So take off all your clothes
I am gettin’ so hot
(uh uh uh uh)
I wanna take my clothes off
Yeah yeah come on”

John F. Hultquist
April 3, 2009 3:50 pm

O/T Anthony
WSJ April 3, p. A17 Opinion piece by F. James Sensenbrenner (R., Wisc)
“Technology is the Answer to Climate Change” . . .
. . . as opposed to transfering our wealth to China, India, etc. as they are demanding if the world (UN) demands they cut CO2
It will be easier to say “let’s forget the whole thing!”

Adam from Kansas
April 3, 2009 3:59 pm

I looked at the temps in that link, expected it to come down somewhat because of a falloff in SST’s a few months earlier.
I want to see this month’s SST reading compared to last month’s and see if we can expect temps to go back up or keep going down a few months from now.
Meanwhile BOM.gov’s SOI index has risen very slightly again, too early since it hit 0 to make out where it will go though.

April 3, 2009 4:07 pm

But remember – weather is not climate. and computer models should always supersede observation.
Us Strunk & White grammer nazis love it when sombody spells “supersede” corectly.
Also, Galva, is finally up on the SurfaceStation gallery.

April 3, 2009 4:09 pm

Galva, is finally up on the SurfaceStation gallery.

April 3, 2009 4:19 pm

Squidly (14:23:23) : “…temperatures could rise 11 degrees in the next 100 years…”
Was that °C or °F?

John F. Hultquist
April 3, 2009 4:22 pm

dkemp (08:27:19) : Larry A. Shaffer (11:49:52) :
. . . the chemistry and/or physics of carbon dioxide
There is much out there to be read – if you can get through it – and what is frequently presented is clumsily presented and frequently not all helpful.
The bottom line, though, seems to be that the smart folks have studied this thoroughly and decided that the CO2 concentration is sufficiently high at 200 ppm or less that it makes little difference that more is added. Thus, the AGW crowd has been promoting and searching for a multiplying factor (various names are used) to the small amount of CO2 being added that it becomes significant. Climate sensitivity seems to be the umbrella under which this search goes on.
You can get an idea of the complexity of this by this:
http://www.wag.caltech.edu/home/jang/genchem/infrared.htm
The CO2 tag is used still because the MSM and most people now know about this. However, the “holy grail” issue is the multiplier.
For an easily readable presentation see Archibald: http://www.davidarchibald.info/papers/The%20Past%20and%20Future%20of%20Climate.pdf
Also, see the part in The Skeptics Handbook , part 4 for a discussion.
joannenova.com.au

Mark T
April 3, 2009 4:26 pm

Randall (14:29:40) :
It’s funny that skiing is not vilified by environmentalists. You drive up to the mountain, park, and go up and down all day then drive home. A lot of fossil fuels are burned to enable this.

Oh my, the resorts go out of their way to make the case they are green. There are at least a few that are claiming 100% green powered, which basically means they pay more for the same electricity than the rest of us. Oh yeah…
Mike D. (14:49:41) :
Speaking of anecdotes, my informants tell me that business receipts are down 30% this winter at Aspen. It has nothing to do with the snow, and everything to do with the ECONOMY.

I did Aspen (Ajax mountain) a few weeks ago. The town was dead. The mountain was empty, though Ajax is apparently not the busiest anyway (it is very steep). On the bright side, we got into Ruth’s Chris for dinner without a problem and only had to pay one cover charge in all the bars we visited. That bar was the only one that had a crowd (they were packed… some hoosier bar with a band, can’t recall the name).
Mark

Steven Hill
April 3, 2009 4:29 pm

It’s a shame that we must deal with this cold due to the lack of sunspots.
There was a little black spot on the sun today
It was the same ole spot as yesterday
Where’s the spot NASA?
Could it be that the sun somehow effects the heating on the earth or does 300ppm of CO2 cause it all?
what a joke

crosspatch
April 3, 2009 4:29 pm

“When you choose to live in the desert you should expect to have dry weather.”
I live in Northern California. Not a lot of desert around here. But even so, looking over geological time, California has experienced droughts that have lasted for hundreds of years and we will again. Many Sierra Nevada lakes were tens of meters lower in level than they are today … and not so long ago, either. The wood is still there, thirty or more feet under water, still where it was growing when it was dry land and had been for the several hundred years those trees were growing there.
But you are right. Santa Cruz county wanted to build a desalination plant but it was not approved because it would “encourage development”. So the people deliberately hamstring the economy, prevent growth, and then complain that there are no jobs for their kids. It is just beyond belief.

bsneath
April 3, 2009 4:37 pm

Maybe so, but we’ve had a heat wave in Siberia…….. oops we used last month’s temps….. oh never mind, just an honest mistake, Certainly you would not think we did this on purpose?

crosspatch
April 3, 2009 4:40 pm

I continue to advocate the transport of excess water (from flooding areas) to dry areas (Southwest states). It seems a shame to watch all that perfectly good river water do flood damage, then run out into the ocean, when 1/3 of the land area of the U.S. could really benefit from having it.

The problem is getting it there. We already use a huge amount of energy in this country to move water around. Water is pumped out of the ground, treated, stored, distributed and the waste treated and effluent disposed of using energy. How do you propose getting water from a flood area in one drainage basin to another without using energy to get the water over the drainage divide?
If we get serious with nuclear power, that might be an option but nuclear power might also allow desalinization on a massive scale and movement of that much water across land might not be needed. Water could be recycled easier if the salts can be removed. That is basically the problem with water treatment effluent; it might be clean enough to drink but it is also loaded with salts. Nuclear plants powering flash desalinization when load is low at night could generate quite a lot of fresh water for people and agriculture.

Ron de Haan
April 3, 2009 4:52 pm

Yes, Obama was right at his speech in Strasbourg today.
We have to act quickly to prevent Global Warming.