Something is rotten in Norway – 500,000 sq-km of sea ice disappears overnight

I had planned to do a post yesterday evening about how sea ice area and extent had returned to very near normal levels. But I was tired, so I saved off the graphs from the NANSEN arctic sea ice site.

This morning I was shocked to discover that overnight, huge amounts of sea ice simply disappeared. Fortunately I had saved the images and a copy of the webpage last night. Here is the before and after in a blink comparator:

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NANSEN sea ice extent comparison to 1979-2000 average, Dec 10 to Dec 11 2008

There is no mention on the NANSEN website as to this change. So either it is an automation error or an undocumented adjustment. Either way, since this is for public consumption, NANSEN owes the public an explanation.

And there is more, see additional blink comparator graphs I’ve added below:

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NANSEN sea ice extent, Dec 10 to Dec 11 2008
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NANSEN sea ice area comparison, Dec 10 to Dec 11 2008
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NANSEN sea ice extent comparison to 1979-2000 average, Dec 10 to Dec 11 2008

After examining the above, it appears the issue only manifests itself when comparisons to the 1979-2000 monthly average are made. The adjustment starting point appears to start around September 10th – at the summer minimum for both area and extent.

This could be a data processing error, though if so, it is so blatantly obvious to anyone who follows the NANSEN presentation that it immediately stands out. Many people commenting  on this blog and others also saw the change without the benefit of my handy-dandy blinkj comparator above.

That fact that it occurs on a weekend could be viewed as suspicious due to fewer eyes on the website , or an indication that they have sloppy quality control there at NANSEN and this was published via automation with no human inspection prior to the update.

Steven Goddard writes via email:

Also interesting is that they extended the date of the ice minimum by about a week.  I have found no mention or explanation of the changes on their web site.  Nansen uses a different baseline from NSIDC, including the entire period from 1979-2007, whereas the NSIDC baseline only goes through 2000.  Yet their graphs are now nearly identical, as shown in the overlay below.
NSIDC “extent” is shown in thin turquoise, and Nansen “area” is shown in red.  (I unfortunately can’t do an apples for apples extent comparison, because I don’t have a snapshot of the Nansen December 10 “extent” graph.)  I wonder what could have motivated such a change?  Over the last couple of years there have been several times that ice measurements have changed at various web sites, but the changes always seem to be downwards.  I can’t remember a single time when ice area or extent was revised upwards.

The explanation (if one is offered) will be interesting to say the least.

UPDATE:

I received this email from Stein Sandven at Nansen in response to my query:

Dear Anthony,

The ice area calculation has been too high since about  22 October, causing too steep slope of the 2008 curve. We corrected for this yesterday and recalculated the ice area for 2008.  The slope of the 2008 curve should now be correct and can be compared with 2007 and the previous mean monthly ice area.

Best regards
Stein

For my opinion though it seems to be an incomplete answer, generating even more questions.

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Mike C
December 13, 2008 9:14 am

Godzilla was out drinking again… and you know how he likes frozen drinks

Cathy
December 13, 2008 9:21 am

Whoa.
Good job, Anthony!

TerryBixler
December 13, 2008 9:21 am

I think we can all understand changes in data, but no reason why is hard to understand.

Robert Wood
December 13, 2008 9:23 am

[snip]

December 13, 2008 9:25 am

Now it’s winter, Global Warming is clearly lurking out of sight somewhere, like a hidden predator. Occasionally it emerges to seize and devour some unsuspecting sea ice, before hibernating until spring.
Or, on the other hand, maybe you noticed something that you were not meant to notice…

Bruce Cobb
December 13, 2008 9:25 am

[snip- Note to everyone: there will be no comparisons to Hansen – Nansen on this thread. – Anthony]

J. Peden
December 13, 2008 9:39 am

NANSEN owes the public an explanation.
I’m getting pretty fed up with this kind of “standard” for operation. They don’t seem to understand that not only is it shoddy, it’s outright suspicious until proven otherwise. Thanks again, Anthony.

Pamela Gray
December 13, 2008 9:39 am

Thinks always do that in the morning after Friday night.

Pamela Gray
December 13, 2008 9:41 am

things, I meant things. Good think I didjkn’t typeis thies laslit nighyt!

Patrick Henry
December 13, 2008 9:45 am

In 2007, when Antarctic ice area was about to break the record maximum, Cryosphere Today made a similar downward shift. We now know that CO2 affects graphing software, as well as ice.

Bob B
December 13, 2008 9:47 am

JAXA has just under 12milsqkM for Dec 12:
http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/en/home/seaice_extent.htm

K
December 13, 2008 9:51 am

I check the NANSEN in the evening. So I hadn’t seen this yet. But it is true, the graph just changed.
So they are mistaken now, or they have been mistaken for a couple of months. Probably it is a temporary error.
Notice the 2008 line doesn’t change shape. Instead it pivots at about September 11.

Pamela Gray
December 13, 2008 9:53 am

What does your Sea Ice chart to the right here look like compared to the two versions of the red line above? Which date does it match better with?

Retired Engineer
December 13, 2008 9:54 am

Maybe their drinks were getting warm, and they needed…
Perhaps the Polar Bears were too cold?
Ice Pirates aren’t actually science fiction?
Due to harsh economic conditions, the ice was downsized?
CO2 affects the people running the graphing software?
The ice forgot to apply for a bailout?
They got an ominous phone call late at night?

Steven Goddard
December 13, 2008 9:54 am

I made a video of the change, which shows that the delta increases with time since September 11. This is interesting because it indicates that it is not simple offset of data relative to the baseline, but a systematic change in the measurement with increasing distance away from the pole, where the more recent ice is forming.

December 13, 2008 9:57 am

My favorite part is how it disappeared retroactively back in September.

philincalifornia
December 13, 2008 10:00 am

Since deliberate financial damage equals damages, I’m sure that these people will have the opportunity to explain, in depositions and discovery, how and why they did this, at some point in the future.

Don Curtis
December 13, 2008 10:00 am

Shapewise the graph is the same except for an “adjustment” in mid-September. Before that, the graph is static. After that the graph line has the same shape. By that I mean you could overlay it on the earlier graph and it would fit. The sea ice extent, of course, shows lower because of the downward shift in September. Curious.

jorgekafkazar
December 13, 2008 10:01 am

Interesting. I’d archived that graph also, intending to forward it to a pro-AGW friend of mine. Good thing I waited.
Data disappearing overnight with no explanation, not even a whiff of burning paper left behind. Sehr interessant!

Jack Simmons
December 13, 2008 10:01 am

I had also noticed there was a delay in posting the data.
There had been a couple of days where the latest data was based on the tenth.
Then there was the drop on the new chart.
Let’s see what’s happened.

December 13, 2008 10:14 am

The new numbers do match up well with IARC-JAXA Information System (IJIS) numbers, but it still doesn’t tell us why they changed all of a sudden. Here’s the link to IJIS graphic

December 13, 2008 10:15 am

Not sure if I did the coding correctly above or not, so here is the link you can just cut and paste if you’re curious:
http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/seaice/extent/AMSRE_Sea_Ice_Extent.png

Phil
December 13, 2008 10:21 am

If you compare it with this, it looks as though the earlier version is the better fit in terms of absolute numbers.
http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/daily_images/N_timeseries.png

John W.
December 13, 2008 10:22 am

Let’s see how long it takes them to realize they have to change another page:
http://arctic-roos.org/forecasting-services/topaz/topaz-model-forecast
Save it before they do.

evanjones
Editor
December 13, 2008 10:28 am

That is quite an adjustment! And it sure goes back far. Are other agencies doing the same thing?
Maybe it went to the same place the MWP went? Or was it just a hot time in the old town last night?

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