More harbinger of the Northern Hemisphere winter to come?
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A bulldozer cleans snow on the Sichuan-Tibet road in Nyingchi, southwest China’s Tibet Autonomous Region Oct. 30, 2008. (Xinhua Photo) |
LHASA, Oct. 30 (Xinhua) — The death toll has risen to seven, and one person remains missing, as a result of the worst snowstorm on record in Tibet, local authorities said Thursday.
The seven people killed either frozen to death or were crushed by collapsing buildings. About 144,400 heads of livestock died in the storm, which also knocked out telecommunications and traffic in parts of Shannan prefecture.
In Lhunze County, 1,348 people stranded by damaged buildings or blocked roads had been rescued, the county government said. Rescue operation for the remaining 289 trapped was still underway.
The worst-hit county had 36 consecutive hours of snowfall from Sunday, with an average snow coverage of 1.5 meters. Four people died and one remained missing in the snowstorm.
The rescued people have been moved to other villages, sleeping in schools or government buildings.
A road linking Lhunze to Cuona County reopened on Thursday after 63 hours of snow clearing efforts of armed policemen and transportation staff.
Cuona had been isolated from the outside for three days due to the road blockage.
The Tibet regional civil affairs department has allocated relief materials such as clothes and tents to the affected areas.
h/t to Dr. Roger Pielke
John, compared to a few weeks ago there was hardly any temperatures below zero in Siberia. This has changed, anomalies has dived some.
But in the northen Siberia forecasts has changed so right now it looks like only a moderate fall.
In southern Siberia and China however, the temperaturefalls by mid november will be up to 10 degrees C in a week. This is much faster than anomali trends, and – unless these tendensies change – we will see “blue” anomalies in this huge area too.
That will leave us with cool south america, afrika, most of asia and then Autstralia around zero, north america and perhaps europe with just a slight warm anonali.
Forecasts change all the time, so lets see. But if they have any value, yes there is a cooling trend for around 15-20 nov.
But lets wait and see. it was not my intend to use so much writings about this, i just told as is true, that forecasts says cooling. Lets see if it holds.
Frank. Lansner (02:47:33) :
“- and wonder why no alarmists mentions the global ice extension right now. Its extremely near zero: -0,2 imo kvm.”
You really are a drama queen aren’t you. So the global ice anomoly is slightly below the mean……wow
evanjones (10:17:38) :
“He was referring to the anomaly. #B^1”
As far as I can tell Siberia has warm and cold anomolies, it covers a very large area. You can always ask Sarah Palin, she can see it from her house apparently!
John, compared to a few weeks ago there was hardly any temperatures below zero in Siberia. This has changed, anomalies has dived some.
But in the northen Siberia forecasts has changed so right now it looks like only a moderate fall.
Do you mean temperatures or anomalies. Temperatures are obviously going to fall because Siberia is heading into winter. But temperatures are still above the seasonal norm. In other words temperature anomalies are high. That as far as I can tell is still the case. Just as Arctic anomalies are still high. In fact most of They might not be as high as last year but, make no mistake, the Arctic temps are still well above the long-term (30 year) mean. Whether they are above what they were in the 1930s is another matter.
But, like it or not, most of the NH is above the long term average.
Again, 30 years isn’t long term by any stretch of the imagination.
Mary Hinge,
you write:
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Frank. Lansner (02:47:33) :
“- and wonder why no alarmists mentions the global ice extension right now. Its extremely near zero: -0,2 imo kvm.”
You really are a drama queen aren’t you. So the global ice anomoly is slightly below the mean……wow
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Honestly ice anormaly around zero is not much of a party for 30 years of “DISARSTEROUS CATASTROPHAL CO2 WARMING” is it?
No exactly, there is no drama, correct.
John, arctic temperatures 2008 have been slightly under normal 1958-08 for many months until august when the thin ice melted (!!). THEN of course temperatures rose as a result of sudden open polar ocean (much warmer than ice) that lost a lot of heat to the arctic atmosphere and Siberia. This is in no way interesting if you want to understand the actual trend of global temperatures as respond for example to the state the sun is in right now, and whats going to happen ahead. The polar heat was a unavoidable happenening due to the unusual thin ice.
Now, John, we dont agree fully whats most like for temperatures in the coming weeks, but let it be, we cant change them anyway 😉
I read the forecasts as mostly cooling, you dont. And?
Frank. Lansner (02:37:25) :
“Then ON TOP OF THAT a La Nina seems to start. ”
Still no indication of a developing La Nina, this is the latest SST anomoly map.
http://www.osdpd.noaa.gov/PSB/EPS/SST/data/anomnight.11.6.2008.gif
If a La Nina does develop it will be a very weak event compared to last years.
Les Francis (04:27:10) :
Josh, comment at 22:18:50,
“That would probably be Carbon Monoxide coming out of the exhaust (not CO2) a far deadlier gas. (Has been known to be used in suicides).”
Actually, Les, Carbon Dioxide is a major component of diesel exhaust. But you are correct, Carbon Monoxide is also a component of diesel exhaust.
– Josh
Frank (Lansner)
I’m not having a go at you in particular. There are a number of contributors on both sides of the AGW debate who simply post incorrect information. You are by no means the worst. Many have been talking about significant imminent cooling and suggesting that the Arctic is undergoing a downturn in temperatures. It’s NOT!
The Arctic is currently much warmer than normal and has been for some time. Look at any of the anomaly plots, satellite data or surface data. They all tell the same story. The Arctic is much warmer than the 30 year mean.
Now you are suggesting that the Arctic may be about to cool. Perhaps it is – but it would need to cool a significant amount just to get back to mid-1990s levels.
Despite the recent La Nina, solar minimum, PDO switch and so on ALL temperature data shows that the world is currently still warmer than the long term average and, to be honest, I don’t see any evidence that this is going to change significantly in the near future.
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