Bill Nye the Science Propaganda Guy just can’t seem to keep his foot out of his mouth. We’ve chronicled many of his blunders here, including his involvement in Al Gore’s “High School Science” experiment where the experiment was so flawed, that they had to fake the results in video post-production to make it believable. If Bill Nye was really about science, he would have caught the fact that the experiment could never work, and refused to participate. Instead, he did, and the video still exists today with Bill Nye’s voice attached to it. So much for credibility.
In 2014, Bill Nye said this while calling people who disagree with him names:
And in the case of the California drought, a recent study suggests that there is 95 percent confident that human-caused climate change tripled the chance of the development of a persistent high pressure system in the Northern Pacific Ocean, which is the cause of the California drought because it deflects precipitation away from the region.
Bill wants it both ways. Just a couple of days ago, he said this:
An article in The Daily Caller outlines his hypocrisy.
Thanks to (((The Dividist))) on Twitter, we have this handy comparison:
UPDATE: About 20 minutes after this post was published, Nye Tweeted this:
Update2: his linkage of CA drought and AGW go all the way back to 2012: (h/t Hifast)
Bill Nye ‘The Science Guy’ Links Drought with Global Warming
https://www.yahoo.com/news/video/bill-nye-science-guy-links-163016623.html
He’s wearing a clip-on bow tie, you can tell from the fake knot. You should never, never, never make eye contact with someone with a clip-on bow tie, and that includes eye contact with the image of someone with a clip on bow tie. There is just something fundamentally wrong with anyone who wears a clip-on tie of any type, and particularly a person who wears a clip on bow tie, (unless you’re under 12 years old, or it’s Halloween).
Mark, there is a simple explanation for your correctly stated assertion that “you” ( a normal person) should never^3 make eye contact with someone wearing a clip-on bow tie. Subconsciously you have nailed the fact that clowns wear clip-on bow ties and you should never^3 get close enough to a clown or a clown image to look it in the eye. I think this was clearly demonstrated in one of those Japanese horror documentaries.
Marginalization of clowns must stop !
Without clowns, we would have less entertainment. I hereby declare today National Clown Appreciation Day.
he’s a chronic clownsplainer who likes to use the scientist toilet room.
… which brings up the very sensitive question of how we should legislate bathroom usage according to which kind of clown one identifies with (USA – NC joke, … yeah, I live here). GLBQ now becomes GLBQ-CLOWN, and let’s put some exclamation points after that just to be dramatic, to show that we are yelling it. !!! (just yell the “clown” part; the rest is at normal speech volume)
Shop teachers wear clip-on bow ties. They work with lathes and drill presses, and they don’t want to get wrapped around the axle.
In Bill’s case, apparently it can still happen.
Jeff Norman says:
one of those Japanese horror documentaries.
Invasion of the mushroom people:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matango
Clowns have rights too.
Clown Lives Matter!
If the bow tie could spin like the blades of a wind turbine and generate energy, then couldn’t all that hot air from Nye be harnessed to produce renewable energy? Just a thought.
Certainly Clowns have rights, but clip-on bow ties are micro-agressive and forced eye contact is probably a violation of the ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) because some on the autistic spectrum have issues with eye-contact
Or it spins. like Bill!
‘He’s wearing a clip-on bow tie’ I think he may be wearing a toupee as well.
Why do people wear rags around their necks, bow tie or otherwise? I have heard the story about them being worn to keep the stink in when Europe was going through its non-bathing stage. I think we are beyond that (at least in North America) but in terms of sheer ridiculousness what could be sillier than a colourful rag of cloth knotted around ones neck??? It makes the codpiece look downright utilitarian. If we need to have a symbol of acquiescence to corporate power structure then let us bring back the cod piece. Imagine Bill Nye in a giant Bruegellian codpiece. It makes my head hurt.
Story that I heard had one of the queens of England request them. Early button up shirts used just any old thing they could find as “buttons”, and the queen thought these things to be unsightly and ordered her courtiers to cover them up.
I have no idea if it’s true, it’s just something I heard years ago.
“…and a clutch of lace at his throat.”
That described an earlier highwayman who came riding, riding…
A flight engineer friend of mine told me that the reason airline crews wear neckties is that if you find that your tie is rising vertically in front of your face then you know you’re flying upside down.
Croatian mercenaries in service to the French wore traditional knotted neckerchiefs. Louis XIV took notice and began wearing a lace version. Cravats became all the rage
International Necktie Day is Oct 18th.
No self respecting adult male should wear a clip on bow tie.
Mary, I would have thought that the screaming from the passenger compartment would have been a give away.
No. People still stink. We are not beyond the non-bathing stage, and we probably never will be.
Everybody is entitled to their opinion, and my opinion is what could be sillier than your opinion on ties.
Answer: Mimes.
Mimes are sillier.
And clowns hate Mimes.
Mortal enemies.
You have that dreadful dandy Beau Brummell to “thank”. Western men used to get to wear all kinds of cool stuff, lace and satins and colors. In many species, the male gets to be quite the (sorry) peacock. But Brummell made plain dark suits and simple cravats (read: neckties) fashionable, and (Western) male fashion all but froze in the early 19th century.
It depresses me no end to see Japanese or Jawanese or African men bow down to a long-dead Regency fop, and I wish men of my own culture would rise up and free themselves of boring, boring suits-and-ties. Get fun, guys!
Same reason swords changed from Claymores to foils, a nick of the jugular is enough.
I think clip on ties are indicative of confusion about behind and in front of, right-left, up-down concepts, especially in mirrors, among other things.
The quote blaming the Calif drought on climate change is attributed to someone named Ben Schneider, not Bill Ney (see the link). So the premise of this story is wrong (fake news?). It would not surprise me to hear that Ney had blamed the drought on climate change but I think this article offers no evidence of that. Nevertheless, it is painful to watch Bill Ney (in the video at the link) talk about climate-change denial. His statements are both anti-science and anti-freedom.
Thomas Mee …
First, it’s Bill Nye, not Bill Ney.
Second, Bill Nye tweeted it. It doesn’t matter if the quote originated elsewhere, by tweeting it he has explicitly endorsed the premise. So, take your silly ‘fake news’ accusation someplace else where it might be appropriate.
Teapartygeezer. Oops … Nye not Ney. A Ney is a type of Turkish flute.
For the record, Nye tweeted that the floods in California were caused by global warming and Anthony linked to an article that he, Anthony, said showed Nye saying that the the earlier droughts were caused by global warming. But that is not what the article said. It had a video of Nye talking some drivel and some text commentary attributed to Ben Schneider; where Schneider (not Nye) said global warming caused the drought.
However, Hifast set the recorded straight, January 12, 2017 at 8:38 am:
“In 2012 [Nye] blamed drought on global warming:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/video/bill-nye-science-guy-links-163016623.html
So all is good. The error in this article is corrected with a proper attribution and Bill Nye is properly put in his place.
Thomas Mee ….
Bill Nye has been making similar pronouncements … for years … connecting global warming with various significant weather events. And frequently remarked upon on this blog. He’s been the subject of several WUWT posts over the years … providing readers with much needed, and appreciated, hilarity. His shenanigans aren’t new to readers here … we’re all very familiar with this anti-science, and anti-freedom, guy.
What is not so hilarious is that he is propagating his crap science to children. Children!
Teapartygeezer; I agree. It’s shameful that politics has been used to trump science but science will win in the end … I hope!
Hi I am a local reader of this blog. But I am a climate change believer. I come with an open mind though. I am just curious what evidence do you have against human caused climate change? And since every scientific academy in the world believes in global warming. What evidence do you hold so close to believe they are all wrong? I am just wondering. I am curious. Thanks again!
Hi Cliffhanger. First, you’re asking the question backwards. The correct question is “What evidence is there for human caused climate change?” Everyone knows that the Earth’s climate is always changing. Fifteen thousand years ago, Chicago would have been under a kilometer of ice. Now it’s all gone. From 1918 to 1940, the Earth’s temperature rose as much as it did between 1980 and 1998, yet no one proposes that humans created enough extra CO2 in 1918 to cause such warming. So if that warming was completely natural, why should we assume that the later warming was caused by a CO2 increase.
If you decide to hand around and learn what we’re all about, I only ask one thing: don’t call the gas “carbon,” call it by it’s proper name, “carbon dioxide,” or just use the chemical notation CO2.
Thanks, and welcome aboard.
Maps from a new 2,000-year drought atlas show rainfall conditions over the whole continent, and much of the Mediterranean. A chart for 1741 shows severe drought (brown areas) running from Ireland into central Europe and beyond. A chart for the year 1315 shows the opposite problem — too much rain (dark green areas), which made farming almost impossible.
Credit: Cook et al., Science Advances, 2015
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/11/151106144515.htm
Now if either a drought or flood is evidence of climate change due to human emissions, which were bugger all squared in 1741, then you know someone is talking out of the proverbial.
Cliffhanger, as you may know, you can find all kinds of things on the internet, some amazing things indeed, some amazingly educational things, and some not so much. You can find many, perhaps millions, of pages where some writer, journalist or even purported scientist says “overwhelming evidence for man-made global warming/climate change” or some such unsupported assertion.
This is going to come as a bit of a surprise to you but you can spend some time on this yourself. Nowhere on the internet can you find any empirical scientific evidence that CO2 going from pre-industrial levels of ~280 ppm to current levels of ~404 ppm has had any verifiable effect on any climate parameter that is outside of the bounds of zero to immeasurable, when using accepted scientific methodologies that include error bars and the null hypothesis.
Since it is within those bounds, it is impossible that it can be dangerous, although, from recorded history, there is no doubt that natural climate change can be.
You are at the the right site, because if I am wrong, I will stand corrected (by admitting I was wrong) and you will know the current state of man-made global warming/climate change which, if I am wrong, will be quite underwhelming to you anyway, or at least it should be.
Put in more simple terms, there is no evidence for it. If it ever rises from the background of natural variation, you will find it on here first, because the scientists and engineers who comment here are not liars, activists, journalists, politicians etc. They will tell you the truth.
…. and just to be clear, when I say the internet, this is inclusive of all scientific literature, peer-reviewed or otherwise.
… and might I also add, we are not all scientific morons in Oakland, CA. Bill is our village idiot.
Once again, Cliff starts off with a lie.
Everybody believes in climate change.
It’s catastrophic man caused change that has been disproven.
Regardless, it demands that we provide evidence that the current warming is not being caused by man.
Wrong, the burden of proof is on those proposing a new theory. There is no requirement that others disprove it.
The evidence that you demand has been given to you dozens of times.
First off, there’s the fact that the models have been proven wrong.
Second, there’s the 20 year pause (soon to resume after the El Nino blip runs it’s course)
Thirdly there are the many failed predictions
Fourthly there is all the recent science pointing to a climate sensitivity under 1.0C.
Finally there are the many misdeeds of those who want the rest of us to keep funding their lifestyles.
“Fifteen thousand years ago, Chicago would have been under a kilometer of ice. Now it’s all gone. ”
Chicago’s gone????
Did they finally run out of people to kill?
No, they just figured dead people were more reliable voters.
welcome cliffhanger, I think bob tisdale’s excellent work on the el nino driven warming of the oceans is a good starter, a lot of articles here as well
Actually a good academic would say “there is a possibility of AGW but it’s quantity is not proven”
this does correspond to what our RMI in belgium says: yes climate is changing but parameters such as solar irradiance is changing as well and so does wind speeds and cloud cover, in their dutch conclusion they even said point blank that a lot of the CAGW IPCC meme of more drought, more floods, more heatwaves are not conclusive. Nothing in their data points to that.
All they found was a rising temperature, but paired with it a rising solar irradiance that follows exactly the rise,
then there is the sattelite record that does actually contradict the AGW theory by showing nearly no warming in the upper troposphere, while the theory says it would warm faster then the surface.
Plenty of data that contradicts the AGW theory imvho
Then we didn’t even start with the paleoclimatologic finds, such as the Holocene highstand (sea level), the sudden drops and rises of global temperature in the younger dryas that just dwarfs what we see now, the rises of civilization and life with the warm episodes and the collapses during the cold ones….
then to sum it up the 1800’s were the coldest years in greenland in 10.000years, only the 8.2 Kyr event did got colder.
So yes the earth warms but i see this as a natural phenomenon, which can be explained by a simple cycle: the Bond event cycle. Study this cycle, compare the non adjusted data with the length of this bond cycle and see for yourself: you will come to the same conclusin: “we’re halfway in the cycle and if we go to an MWP optimum, we’re nicely on shedule: we’re halfway the rise The MWP was 2-2.5°C warmer then the pre industrial (or LIA) average, and now we’re at +1 with the El nino spike.
When you know that a Bond event is a sudden dip and stay of 300-400 years, followed by a slow rise that also spans over 200-300 years towards a new optimum…. Make the math, we’re 150 years in that warming cycle of the Bond event, That’s halfway, and then we didn’t speakabout the much warmer holocene optimum with open water coasts in greenland where now there is still 5 meter of ice.
those findings never get into the news, but are well documented here, with decent links to the studies and papers.
And this is just the tip of the iceberg.
I used to wear a clip-on bow tie when I worked as a water. But I think that sort of job is the only acceptable excuse. Anyone wearing a bow-tie for fashion purposes should learn how to tie one.
Whats a water ?
Is he letting us know that he’s all wet?
Unless they are under six years of age (re clip-on bow ties).
In 2012 he blamed drought on global warming:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/video/bill-nye-science-guy-links-163016623.html
hmm? sucking and blowing?
Hifast at 8:38 AM. Good find!
Australia has Tim Flannery who has spent years agonising, and written books about how ‘it is never going to rain again. And, even if it does the dams will never be filled.’.
Bill Nye is a modern snake-oil salesman. He’s leading millions of kids astray with nonsense. What a waste.
Don’t forget the other snake-oil salesman, Mr Brian Cox.
And another – David Rockefeller, before he got into pharmaceuticals.
SteveT
.. and Degrasse-Tyson, who uses Nye exclusively on his show “Star Talk”. I used to look up to Cox and Tyson, but it seems they’ve sold their souls for fame via Gorebull Warbling.
The Farce is strong in him.
But snake oil has a huge following in human beings. Truth is boring.
Exposing fraud (Farce) is not sexy. Nye will always have a paying audience. Works for him and other charlatans.
Future exposes of climate fraud might have sex appeal.
ristvan: I am breathless. That’s hilarious!
Science Fraud Guy
Unfortunately, Bill Nye is coming to Netflix with a new show, “Bill Nye saves the World”. Hard to believe how large the snake oil market is. Thankfully, it is not on cable, phew.
http://www.nme.com/news/tv/bill-nye-new-netlifx-show-1932616
That show was planned before November’s election of Trump, and in anticipation of a Pres Clinton continuing the climate hustle.
I predict a short run for that series. Netflix lives and dies by what ppl stream. Few will stream that babble as the climate lies of the Obama Admin come to light after Jan 20th.
Never underestimate morbid fascination.
Truly. Look at the views that ear wax removal and cyst drainings get on YouTube. They’re astonishing.
The number of views that Netflix gets from its documentary-science-info-psuedo genre of programs is insignificant to the business, no one subscribes to Netflix with the thought “their science programming is just so over the top.” Actually the fact that it’s on Netflix is an indication that it couldn’t get airplay on an ad-supported or linearly programmed network that actually has to pay attention to the preference(s) of their audience.
On the upside, much of Nye’s preachy stuff is sufficiently putrid that maybe it will get a few more people to go “wtf” this guy is a real dweeb
Most Netflix ‘documentaries’ should be treated like op-eds. Highly agenda driven and partisan.
That’s true of pretty much all “documentaries” these days. Especially one aired on any of the major networks.
If this is a ‘once in a decade’ storm, why is there so much flooding of developed areas?
Oh, that’s right, they built in flood plains. /sad
But that’s the flat part.
Don’t you remember most Environmentalist’s don’t believe things happen cycles. To them things only go in one direction.
Bill gets his information from the same pollsters that projected a strong possibility of a Clinton “landslide victory” during the election.
The basic problem Nye faces is the same one that many in the (very soon-to-be, former) Obama Administration face. That is: Finding gainful employment.
Not surprisingly after the Trump win and coming installation of Republican-approved appointtees throughout the agencies, they are having a hard time even getting job interviews in the private sector with their resumes padded with years of Democrat-Progressive accomplishments. And DC NGO’s are already fully staffed with the real prospect of coming layoffs there as the political wind shifts to a certain deep fall of the inflow of donations and grants.
Obama Staffers Can’t Find Work In Trump’s DC, There Are No Jobs.
http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/01/10/obama-staffers-cant-find-work-in-trumps-dc-there-are-no-jobs/
http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/GettyImages-621959056-1280×720.jpg
Most of those staffers, just like Bill Nye don’t have the luxury of an Algore or an Obama of falling back on a rich govt pension and banked millions from their many years of government service as a senator/VP/Prez (think about that for a moment).
Nye has embraced and peddled the Climate Hustle lie so much, there really is no retreat for him. Rather just the opposite. Only doubling down now on the Alarmist Climate prophesies and climate psycho-babble will he retain any hope of making a buck from the still millions of duped Climate church congregants.
http://cdn0.dailydot.com/cache/1e/40/1e4004327d28a22c55a9b53361b34ba9.jpg
Oh dear, that looks like a loosened real bow tie.
Or maybe someone took a pair of scissors to an ordinary tie.
But obviously in the pay of Big Tobacco. (I stopped smoking in 1977.)
I’m a little surprised by this, unless it’s the high level staffer who are more likely to toe the same political line as the congresscritter or Senator they serve. My cousin was a senatorial staffer for years, and most of them just role with the tide, faithfully serving whoever is occupying the office.
Amazon is opening three new warehouses in my area. They are advertising for workers. Up to $15/hr. plus full benefits. Some of those folks should sign up.
The admiration’s staffers and the liberals missed their opportunity to pass the “Americans with No-Abilities Act”. They would then be a protected social class.
Joel, don’t say they were not warned. From last March from a K-Street Insider
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“Trump is a Washington outsider.” Since Trump has no experience as a politician, not a single D.C. lobbying firm has any ties to Donald Trump.
“More than $4 billion in lobbying business could be lost overnight should Donald Trump become president,” says Burkman. “Decades of relationship-building in politics could be lost. And make no mistake every lobbyist in the town is worried.”
Lobbyists routinely use money to gain access and buy influence. They leverage their connections for wealthy clients who want access. But The Donald has said he won’t accept their money.
“Since Trump has no plans to accept contributions in the general election, lobbyists may be robbed of their biggest weapon–money–in a presidential election year,” adds Burkman. “Literally 30-thousand jobs could be lost if Trump is sworn in. Washington as we know it, and how business is conducted, will change instantly.”
Burkman says he and his fellow lobbyist delegation will try to convince Trump to accept donations in the general election.
http://www.prnewschannel.com/2016/03/17/d-c-lobbyists-prepare-for-trump-presidency-fear-it-will-mean-the-end-of-life-as-we-know-it/
In Oz, other leftist outlets usually soak up the excess dregs of failed leftist governments. Universities, the media, NGOs, there are thousands of organisations, mainly sucking on the taxpayers teat, who will welcome them and keep the warm.
This is true about Nye. He position is that temperatures will increase by 11.5 deg. F and sea levels will increase by 4 feet.
This is evidence that he is nothing but a performer/actor playing a role and not a real scientist.
He is very good at playing a scientist, sounds convincing and knows enough about science to play the role of an expert in this field. However, when you actually scrutinize his work/statements, you see that he clealy lacks some fundamental understanding that real scientists have.
His not understanding the ideal gas law in the inflate gate incident was a good display of him being just an actor scientist. The media consider him a knowledgeable scientist, that used his trading to go into television.
He does know a lot about some basic science but his skill is in acting and communications….not science and especially not atmospheric science.
He really is a good actor.
inflate gate incident
“Deflategate”
http://physicsbuzz.physicscentral.com/2015/01/bill-nye-drops-ball-on-deflategate.html
Bill Nye just glomed on to an existing organization and they make it out like he’s the second coming to raise money – The Planetary Society has Bill as its CEO. EVERYONE in that organization is a climate science expert.
I asked their chief fundraiser what it would cost for me get Bill in a room to talk AGW and climate change. I’d raise all the money -we’d get people in the room in accordance with the proportion of main-made climate change supporters and deniers as exists in the general population, ensure they all were willing to listen to a different point of view – and then at the end – Bill could take the money to his charity if he won the argument, I’d be able to pick my own charities if I won, and we’d bet that by 2018 California’s reservoirs would be full. An easy one for him – cause he KNOW climate science and KNOWS he is right.
I tried to do this LAST SUMMER. totally shut down – they refused to do it because? He’s too good. They did not want to make me look me. Hell I’m not even a science college grad. He should kick my ass all the way to Kyoto.
They’re afraid. That’s why they turned me down –
The alarmists are claiming that the oceans have warmed up by about 0.002C.
Do they really want us to believe that 2 thousandth of a degree of warming is enough to double or triple the amount of rainfall CA gets?
Or that you can really measure ocean temperatures to that level of accuracy?
Paul
Of course they cannot. The accuracy of the ARGO floats is 0.02 degrees C with a reading precision of 0.01. The potential drift is at least 0.06 over 5 years. Not saying they drifted, but no one can tell if they did or not. They are equipped with a ‘matched pair’ as they are called in industry. Two Pt100 RTD’s that give identical readings at the same temperature. That is state of the art, and it is nowhere near 0.002.
It would also be pointless to have that kind of precision, since the sampling occurs in sparse and randomly changing locations anyway. Like measuring your body weight to milligram precision when having lunch or disposing of it changes it by one pound.
And these are animations of what they are measuring:
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/enso_update/gsstanim.shtml
(current) and/or
long duration
… or that it even matters whether you can or not.
I just got a 0.002 cent raise in my pay check. Simply huge ! In a hundred years, I would earn an extra 0.2 cents. In five hundred years, I would earn an extra 1 cent. I’m into the big money now.
But there’s a zillion joules of energy stored by warming all that water by that tiny fraction of a degree and it’s gonna getcha.
Is a zillion bigger or smaller than giganourmous?
I’ve tried to determine how anybody pushing against CO2 could possibly claim to “save the world”.
Our world runs on carbon in its many forms–food, transportation, housing, etc. etc.
Nye has become the nemesis of civilization with such silly claptrap.
Pshh! All you folks are just plain old deNyers…
clever.
Yes, indeed…
Is there an insecticide for Nye bugs?
It looks like the unemployment queues will be lengthening as Trump makes a clean sweep of Climate Alarmism’s Augean stable. I hope Tricky Mickey Mann is practicing for his next employer by looking in the mirror and asking, “Do you want fires with that?”
“Do you want fires with that?”
Wait-person to the Devil?
Maybe he should write for the Gruaniad.
i know a hockey stick producing factory that’s looking for a new designer…. Perhaps Mann should apply for a job there? 🙂
Myrmidons wanted.
Words fail me.
I just wish this madness ends before I’m gone. So that I don’t need a P.S. on my gravestone.
It irks me how Nye and his ilk conflate scientific confidence intervals (p-value correlations) with their opinion-poll “confidence” in their unsupported suppositions. It’s actually dishonest to make these “95%” claims and use the word “confidence” because it leads many people to falsely assume that a provable correlation exists and is being described, when in reality it’s just Bill Nye’s opinion and what 95% of his crony friends THINK is happening. That would be a “confidence game”…another name for a scam.
The end is Nye!
And he’ll be the guy! (On November 5th).
Don’t be a Nyesayer, Markopanama.
The (rear) end of science is Nye.
Seems to have a bit of a problem with the ideal Gas Law too.
https://www.aps.org/publications/apsnews/201503/fumbles.cfm
But to be fair, he was probably just echoing what his buddy Neal said, who after all, has a PhD.
It’s not Neal deGrasse Tyson; it’s Neil deGas Tyson.
deGreasy?
Bill Nye The Boeing Guy was having problems with gas experiments on screen as far back as 1990. Most of his appearances on the local sketch comedy show “Almost Live” in Seattle were actually pretty good, for an engineer. This one, not so much.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9QwCVBENHM
Wasn’t there a wet period in the 19th century where so much rain fell, that the valleys themselves turned into lakes? I remember reading somewhere that people were rowing boats in Sacramento to get around.
1862. In Southern CA, it was called the Agua Mansa Flood.
http://la.curbed.com/2016/5/26/11724202/agua-mansa-california-ghost-town
Estimate for the Agua Mansa Flood was about ten times the “hundred year” flow for the Santa Ana River. That would be off the scale, except that there is no upper limit to the flow-frequency relationship.
Interestingly, “Carbon” was a lot lower back then.
Obviously, extreme weather of any kind is caused by excessive anthropogenic carbon dioxide emissions. Not.
California Megaflood: Lessons from a Forgotten Catastrophe
Yes, late 1861 and early 1862, about the time that Stanford was Innaugurated as governor. Put the state into bankruptc, as it killed off an est 200,000 cattle, and triggered the economy to convert to agriculture.
At the height of the semi biblical rain storm of 1996/97 lakes were forming in the upper half of the Sacramento Valley. The dam above Oroville California on the Feather River was in danger of over topping, and that is one of the world’s largest earthen dams. If it had given way, then the valley and Sacramento would have been swept clean while the SF/Bay Area would have experienced widespread flooding around the entire bay.
I would love to say, “stupid is as stupid does”, or my favorite, “I can fix a lot of things, but I cannot fix stupid”, but the potential harsh reality is that individuals like Nye are in all actuality very intelligent!
Hey, they are successfully sucking at the $1.5 trillion teat! And doing a fantastic job of spinning this nonsense to the benefit of their bank accounts! What the heck are we doing wrong?!?!!?!?
(integrity comes to mind ……)
For a guy who claims to be a “science guy” Nye’s highest degree is a BS in Mechanical Engineering, and his actual job is as a TV personality for children and a cult leader for adults. As much as I admire engineers of all stripes, I’m pretty sure there’s a substantive difference between science and engineering. And I’ve no need of cultists at all.
Nye is an embarrassment to Mechanical Engineers who actually did engineering.
Engineering is application of science for the benefit of humanity.
“I’m pretty sure there’s a substantive difference between science and engineering”
No, engineering is a branch of science concerned with designing, building and using engines, machines and structures. It is generally an applied science but engineers do perform research and development in scientific fields. It might be differentiated from the purely theoretical sciences to some extent (for example “climate science”) in that engineering always has some form of physical and practical application.
Climate science has a practical application — it produces grant money. … can’t get more practical than that.
Robert notice I said “physical and practical”. And don’t tell me you can buy cars, booze and hookers with grant money, making climate science “physical”. I’m in a lousy mood.
🙂
Well. We already knew that climate change causes each and every weather plague, from drought to floods, from heatwave to blizzard, tornadoes, storm etc.
It even caused Syria war, you know. And Obama staffers unemployment, I guess.
Here’s the best guess at a complete list (with attributions):
http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/warmlist.htm
And Obama staffers unemployment, I guess.”
That’s political climate change …
“Wasn’t there a wet period in the 19th century where so much rain fell, that the valleys themselves turned into lakes? I remember reading somewhere that people were rowing boats in Sacramento to get around.”
Yes, I think that was the “great flood” in the 1860’s.
Sacramento Jan 1862.
And then in December 1964, it started raining pretty much non-stop for a couple of weeks. Midway through the Christmas school break, the Hell Hole Dam on the Rubicon river failed, sending a wall of water, rocks, mud, and trees down into the Middle-Fork of the American River. http://www.auburnjournal.com/article/12/22/14/hell-hole-dam-collapse-50-years-ago-today-continues-teach
Oh, come on now. You have a dam named Hell Hole above the Rubicon River canyon What could go wrong with that; that the names don’t already imply.
The Great CA flood of 1861-1862:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Flood_of_1862:
“…..The Great Flood of 1862 was the largest flood in the recorded history of Oregon, Nevada, and California, occurring from December 1861 to January 1862. It was preceded by weeks of continuous rains and snows in the very high elevations that began in Oregon in November 1861 and continued into January 1862. This was followed by a record amount of rain from January 9–12, and contributed to a flood that extended from the Columbia River southward in western Oregon, and through California to San Diego, and extended as far inland as Idaho in the Washington Territory, Nevada and Utah in the Utah Territory, and Arizona in the western New Mexico Territory……”
http://www.forensicgenealogy.info/images/floodpic_sacramento.JPG
http://blogs.elca.org/hungerrumblings/files/2010/07/1861-flood-image.jpg
So the great rain/flood event in 1861-62 had to be natural, but somehow the same thing happening today is caused or worsened by humanity’s CO2 emissions. Umm…..yea. Uh huh. And I imagine Nye owns a bridge in Brooklyn he’s willing to sell me too.
No. If you into the event, you will see that CO2 was somehow, surreptitiously, secretly involved from start to finish. Never underestimate the evil power of the capitalists and their planet killing gas. The Jews and the illuminati may have had a hand in it as well.
Rain is caused by climate change. Drought is caused by climate change. Fun weather and boring weather are both caused by climate change. Climate change, and everything else I dislike, like bugs, loud noises and iron-poor blood, are caused by fossil fuels. Never mind changes that preceded fossil fuels, or things I dislike that have nothing to do with fuel.
If I select a new scapegoat, that’s okay because I’M A SCIENTIST, and scientists can never be dissed. We’re more worthy of reverence than medieval holy men.
A scientist is now defined as someone who agrees with the consensus. Which also means that anyone who disagrees with the consensus is not a scientist. Now throw in the fact that only a scientist has the authority to challenge the consensus and you have the definition of group think.
Well said MarkW re re climate alarmist definition of a scientist. Have just copied the statement and will use it.
To my mind at least this perfectly illustrates the flaws with Nye’s stance on climate and climate science itself. Specifically there is no null hypothesis so every event fits. To Nye it’s not a logical inconsistency to contend long term widespread drought and catastrophic flooding have the same cause and both are logical outcomes resultant from climate change. It can be both hot and dry and cold and wet, or cold and dry and hot and wet. Each event is independent and each event is a result of anthropogenic climate change. Everything fits under the grand unifying theory of the universe that is climate change. No event is excluded.
But that’s the problem: if you can’t falsify your hypothesis in any way it never really was much of a hypothesis in the first place. And that’s not science.
“But that’s the problem: if you can’t falsify your hypothesis in any way it never really was much of a hypothesis in the first place. And that’s not science.”
Amen.
Buggs: Wait a minute! That’s beginning to sound like Schrodinger’s Cat! Isn’t he both dead and alive? Isn’t that good science? Kind of quantum stuff, I think. It is both raining and dry, both hot and cold, both windy and still. All these things are simultaneously true until you collapse the wave function (I think that’s the term those sciency physicists use).
Scrodinger’s cat is only both dead and alive until someone observes it.
So this analogy does apply to global warming, since nobody’s seen it either.
Schrodinger’s cat would be 82 years old. I’m betting dead.
Bill Nye can always find good work skimming the student activity fees at your local university. The quality bar is not so high for entertainment there and especially leading up to campaign season.