From the New York Daily News:
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The data doesn’t support him.
The temperature rise seems to have slowed in the past few years, here is NYC’s Central Park data:
Source: http://www.erh.noaa.gov/okx/climate/records/monthannualtemp.html
UPDATE: WeatherBell meteorologist Joe D’Aleo sends along this graph, showing population with temperature plotted together. This makes a strong case for UHI and waste heat effects.
Will the Sea level go up a foot by 2020? Doubtful.
| The Battery , NY | Station ID: 8518750 |
| Latitude: 40° 42.0′ N | Mean Range: 4.53 ft. |
| Longitude: 74° 0.8′ W | Diurnal Range: 5.06 ft. |
| Established: May 24 1920 | |
| NOAA Chart #: 12335 | |
| Time Meridian: 75 W |
Mean Sea Level Difference:
for 8518750 The Battery, NY
1983-2001 1960-1978 Difference:
5.86 ft.-5.65 ft. = 0.21 ft.
Source: http://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/station_info.shtml?stn=8518750+The+Battery+,+NY
Source: http://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sltrends/sltrends_station.shtml?stnid=8518750
Based on current NOAA data, it will take over 100 years to gain a foot of sea level rise.
At 2.77mm per year, we can only hope to see 8 x 2.77mm = 22.16mm or 0.072 foot (0.872 inches) rise by 2020. That’s not even close to Mayor Bloomberg’s claims. Note I’m being generous and using 8 years since 2013 isn’t even half over yet.
And, it really is easy to get freaked out if you don’t pay attention to anything but hype:
Freaking out about NYC sea level rise is easy to do when you don’t pay attention to history
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People in the deep south must be dropping off like flies………..
Would not trust the temp data at all. More like flat considering urban and adjustments
Did I really read “Gotham”?
Can you really trust the data on mean sea level rise at NYC, Seems like NYC is sinking some from all the weight of structures, vehicles and people , Maybe that is why Bloomberg pushed so hard for smaller soft drinks sizes.
History of Glaciers on land masses when they melt away, the land rises. The reverse is happening with NTC now from the man made weight acting like a glacier pushing down on NYC?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-glacial_rebound
Seems Legit.
Let me guess — based on this alarming new report, Bloomberg wants to introduce a citywide “carbon tax” to help mitigate the effects of climate change?
You gotta love the political BS : not a panel of scientists , but a panel of “expert” scientists,
who apparently met behind closed doors and provided unchallenged predictions based on who knows what. Also love the “will kick in” nonsense. Exactly what is going to trigger those “kick
in” conditions, I wonder?
Just exactly who constituted this “expert panel of scientists”? Some likely candidates: Lewandowsky, Gleich, Gergis, Hansen.
“The bad weather patterns should kick in as early as 2020, according to the findings released on Monday.”
that is “wonderfull” news and of course … their catch22 …
if they would have said “by 2220”, they might have been right … but who would have cared ? … for our attention, they are ever obliged to say “in a not too distant future” … which will, unfortunately for them, very shortly wreck their forecasting reputation …
🙂
My impression – and it is just that – is that I am hearing the insistent “climate change is real” on an increasing frequency. It seems that the devotees are being reduced to this obdurate simple-minded mantra in the face of a loss of conviction in the general tone of commentary and response. To be reduced to this after dominating and dictating the “conversation” for so long is a social disaster, even as it reveals the actual intellectual content and capacity of these vegetables.
Hey, Bloomberg is a media mogul. Say no more. Conflict of interest? Nah. /sarc
The objective of Bloombergs’ task force was to show the coming (CO2-driven) climate catastrophes, and by golly, they were able to do just that. Amazing what those GCMs can accomplish. Except showing what climate actually does, of course.
Well said, jc.
Mann probably picked the panel of “experts”. After all – all the other non-expert scientists are just hacks or shills or (gasp) non-experts.
Latitude says:
June 11, 2013 at 8:35 am
People in the deep south must be dropping off like flies………..
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You think there’s a little Big Apple chauvinism in that crack about the “sweltering Deep south?”
People in New Yawk think that if you travel south of the Raritan River you are suddenly in Deliverance territory and start hearing banjo music. We don’t all live in the swamp and occasionally wear a shirt under our overalls.
As Joe Bastardi is warning that the next few years are analogue for the late 1950’s and to expect more landfalling storms along the East Coast, this is just Bloomberg in blame avoidance mode. The unsafe building in flood plains, poor building codes, lack of sea defenses (all the Mayor’s job) are not to blame it is ‘climate change’. Look I have this paper from ‘expert’ climate ‘scientists’.
Allen Watt, I feel you hit the nail right on the head.
California is starting a Scam Carbon Tax soon so this could be easy way for NY to get in the game. Start with Doom And Gloom Propaganda BS then impose the Scam Carbon Tax..
http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/06/04/congress-hates-carbon-pricing-the-rest-of-the-world-doesnt/
How much do you want to bet that that 108-degree sign was heated?
I’m frankly amazed that a ‘panel of scientists’ would make a prediction about the avg temperature and the level of sea rise about a specific year (2020 1 ft sea level rise & avg temperature of 57F) with that degree of certitude. Who were these ‘scientists’? It boggles the mind that anyone with even a passing knowledge of sea level would claim that sea level will rise in any one locality by 12″ in 6.5 years.
As a former resident of southern Connecticut I can tell you that it is hotter there during heat waves in August than it is on the southwest coast of Florid, and that was many years ago. In addition, the wind would blow from the south over New Jersey and New York City picking up all the air pollution from there and dumping it in Connecticut creating an awful haze over New Haven. With only the dirty water of Long Island Sound to swim in, well, just some of the reasons I left. Perhaps the Mayor should concentrate on doing his job and leave the erroneous sea level rise predictions to the appropriate fear mongers like Gavin and Mike.
Current temperature system for Central Park is an ASOS unit next to this castle. I would be curious to see what rating Anthony would give this setup.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Belvedere_Castle,_Central_Park.jpg#filelinks
They need to raise taxes some more to reduce the population. Why do New Yorkers retire in the south? Global Warming Volunteers. How many southerners move North when they retire? With age comes wisdom for most of us.
Did you guys see the New York Times article saying that climate change is “dominated by natural variability”? Wonder if Bloomberg saw it today.
This Bloomberg fellow is a gullible fool, isn’t he?
“should kick in as early as 2020”
The motto of banker city: IBGYBG