Obama wants the Electric Reliability Corporation to stop assessing electric reliability

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Guest post by Alec Rawls

NERC (the North American Electric Reliability Corporation) must have thought it was taking a step up when a 2005 law made the non-profit group an official advisor to Congress, but that law also brought them under the oversight of FERC (the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission) which just spent months of rummaging through every desk looking for rule violations they could use to embroil NERC in legal difficulties.

It seems that the President’s drive to shut down the coal-fired half of the grid could pose some risk to grid reliability—who’d a thunk it?—so Obama is trying to shoot the messenger. When no violations were found, FERC decided to “audit” NERC’s mission itself, resulting in a finding that this business of “periodic reliability assessments” is all a bit much and “should be revisited.”

From the editors of The Wall Street Journal:

This highly respected nonprofit has monitored the power system since the 1960s and establishes best practices to keep the lights on. … NERC’s position is that the EPA goal of mothballing many or most coal-fired power plants could endanger the security of the electric-power grid, with possible blackouts and much higher energy costs. In a follow-up report last year it found that “Environmental regulations are shown to be the number one risk to reliability over the next one to five years.”

In violation of FERC rules, Chairman Jon Wellinghoff ordered the NERC investigation on his own authority, and the investigation itself was overtly political:

[T]his probe exceeded normal auditing standards and was a free-floating investigation into NERC’s “economy and efficiency,” whatever that means. It didn’t find any rule-breaking.

Instead, the auditors question NERC’s focus and statutory responsibilities, concluding that it “may have exceeded the functions” Congress intended for a reliability organization. Never mind that NERC has been doing the same job for decades and its integrity hasn’t been questioned. The feds also complain about NERC’s “periodic reliability assessments,” otherwise considered the gold standard. They say this role “should be revisited.”

In other words, the energy G-men think NERC should help protect reliability without studying the actual threats to reliability.

The perils of shutting down the nation’s largest electricity source can’t be news to the Obama people. They just don’t want the public to get the message.

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70 thoughts on “Obama wants the Electric Reliability Corporation to stop assessing electric reliability

  1. Sort of makes one think Obama is taking the first steps towards DE-industrialization of our economy. Is this his great leap forward?

    Thanks
    JK

  2. Classic Obama. If an organization does a good job, well then, put a stop to it. This is what an incompetent dufus does when he’s been promoted to his level of incompetence. Rest assured, Barry’s been promoted waaaay, waaaaay, waaaaaaaay past his level of incompetence. So, of course, he’s gotta insure that any organization is made to perform even more incompetently than he does. Fortunately, that’s not possible.

  3. I expect the White House has backup generators and don’t really care much what happens to the average folks in the street. If the power goes of and the air conditioning fails and a bunch of old folks croak so much the better, This will convince everyone we need to put a tax on everything to solve the problems. Most of all we need to tax poverty. Just like carbon, this will drive poverty out of existence.

  4. Obama is a freind of PM gillard she is doing the same in Australia A $23 per ton carbon tax on coal fired power stations in Australia starting date 1/7/2012 .WE all have to stop this tax before it is too late

  5. Well there is one thing to say about this…it is one of the few times the Obama administration has been completely transparent. If this isn’t transparent political shenanigans, I don’t know what is!

  6. As the Obama proclaimed a few months back in regards to the failed Cap&Trade bill, “it’s a means not an end. There’s more than one way to skin this cat.” The cat is being skinned. Anyone know what the price of whale oil is these days?

  7. Good report, Alec. The EPA is going to undergo some serious structural changes after the next election. Of course, there needs to be serious structural changes in the office of the presidency first. :>)

  8. Werner Brozek says:
    May 22, 2012 at 7:05 pm

    Is this an obomination?
    ——————————————-

    I like it.

  9. Owen in Ga,
    The media is not reporting any of this; eyes wide shut. A large if not majority sector of the public doesn’t have a clue what Obama has done and is planning to do. If he is re-elected, it is game over. He’s already stated Congress is irrelevant and per Cass Sunstein it is a simple matter of bypassing the Congress by using executive decrees and regulatory measures.

    Obama will go down in history as the equivalent of Sherman’s March; the scorched earth policy.

  10. Our POTUS is not stupid. He’s is ideological. He is trying to do everything he promised during the ’08 campaign. Go back and watch his old speeches. He truly believes the US Constitution failed us when it did not include what the government should or must do ‘for’ the people. That all the wealth should be spread around. That life isn’t fair and the government should change that.
    He believes in much of the ‘socialist doctrine.’ He a big government guy.

  11. This is a war between a strong and recovering US and the left’s utopian vision, we can’t let this wrecking crew get away with it. OBUMAISM is out to destroy every vestige of whats good for the US, by destroying any chance of recovery. OBUMAISM is the face of the enemy within!

  12. Don’t you hear about such political shenanigans from the 1870s or earlier, from Mark Twain? Processes that “work” never stop, I guess.

    What power and profit want, will be had. The justifications come later. If then.

  13. Obama talks the talk but when it comes to action he is clueless.

    His epitaph could look a lot like John Wilmot’s assessment of Charles II:
    ” Here lies our sovereign lord the King,
    Whose word no man relies on.
    He never said a foolish thing,
    Nor ever did a wise one.”

  14. Ted says:
    May 22, 2012 at 7:58 pm
    “This is a war between a strong and recovering US and the left’s utopian vision, we can’t let this wrecking crew get away with it. ”

    You’re not recovering. You’re inflating the US bond bubble, for the time being.

  15. Robin Kool,
    You beat me to it. Our electric bill here in Michigan has risen dramatically the past year.

  16. Tom J. above implies that Obama is an incompetent dufus. Wrong! Obama’s actions are deliberate and well calculated. He resents Americans’ first-world standard of living and the democratic capitalist system that has make us the envy of the world. He INTENDS to downgrade and humiliate our free society. He is a racist and a Marxist, and is deliberately pursuing polices of bankruptcy and chaos in the streets. A breakdown of our energy grid is a part of that agenda! The corrupt national press that hides these things from the public is more dangerous than Obama himself. Perhaps the time is upon us when the Tree of Liberty must be refreshed!

  17. Last week PJM Interconnection, the company that operates the electric grid for 13 states (Delaware, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Maryland, Michigan, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Virginia, West Virginia and the District of Columbia) held its 2015 capacity auction. These are the first real, market prices that take Obama’s most recent anti-coal regulations into account, and they prove that he is keeping his 2008 campaign promise to make electricity prices “necessarily skyrocket.”
    The market-clearing price for new 2015 capacity – almost all natural gas – was $136 per megawatt. That’s eight times higher than the price for 2012, which was just $16 per megawatt. In the mid-Atlantic area covering New Jersey, Delaware, Pennsylvania, and DC the new price is $167 per megawatt. For the northern Ohio territory served by FirstEnergy, the price is a shocking $357 per megawatt.
    Why the massive price increases? Andy Ott from PJM stated the obvious: “Capacity prices were higher than last year’s because of retirements of existing coal-fired generation resulting largely from environmental regulations which go into effect in 2015.” Northern Ohio is suffering from more forced coal-plant retirements than the rest of the region, hence the even higher price.
    These are not computer models or projections or estimates. These are the actual prices that electric distributors have agreed to pay for new capacity. The costs will be passed on to consumers at the retail level.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/05/22/obamas-war-on-coal-hits-your-electric-bill/print#ixzz1vf2g9Pca

  18. Tim Minchin says:
    May 22, 2012 at 8:12 pm

    Is Obama all there mentally? He comes across as a bit dim-witted.
    ===================================
    Right, but his handlers know he’ll do what they say…… even if they have to feed it to him through a teleprompter.

    I’d like to take a moment to reflect on a bunch of pinheads who frequent here. Every time someone mentions politics they like to jump and harp that this is about science and that politics shouldn’t be brought up. Well, we see how vacant that was. Thanks to all of them who contributed such a weak and garbled message to the public that we have to endure this nonsense. Dolts.

  19. “2016″ – The Must See Movie Coming This Summer

    The fact that this is coming from Hollywood insiders says a lot.

    The speaker here is Dinesh D’Souza, a college president in New York and an author of many New York Times best sellers.

    The movie is from Gerald R. Molen, producer of Academy Award winning Schindler’s List, Jurassic Park, Brave Heart…..

    It explains in plain language who Barack Obama really is, what he stands for, and the dangers of him being re-elected for another four years.

    Watch the preview of this movie:

    After you see the preview, listen to what Dinesh has to say about Obama.

  20. Left wing, blah, blah; socialism blah blah. . Obama’s crew is both in the pocket of cap and trade wall street AND Nat gas and nuke industries. Industries use the government to gain competitive advantage against each other, they just have to sell it like something else. Nothing new. Less coal energy available, nat gas and nuke juice comes more in demand, increased profits. That’s business. Follow the Money. Who profits by the actions?

  21. Well, in the ‘Bama’s view, the only position greater than he has would be ruling the entire world. The closest thing is UN Secretary General. Well it would be, if the US wasn’t so dominant. So rack up the debt, wreck the energy infrastructure, get Americans to accept they ain’t that great after all, no better than anyone else in the world actually, and what they get in life is what the government provides so demand the government gives you everything possible (that other people will pay for). Government alone is the source of all blessings, don’t you know.

    Heck, the EU is looking strong too. So convince them to “take the lead” in trashing their energy infrastructure, to bail out that which should be allowed to go bankrupt, reject austerity measures that can save wealth and rebuild economies in favor of shoveling out made-up money for “stimulus” spending.

    And just in case the US and EU should start getting uppity and forget their proper place, let enemy nations grow stronger and encourage some more to arise, work on permanently destabilizing the Middle East for oil price uncertainty, and develop a strong competitor on all fronts (political, economic, and militarily) by not complaining about China, let them do whatever they want with their own peasants (who aren’t necessarily people with rights) and around the world, even give them a direct lending line to the US Treasury, a “privilege” no other central bank has, so it doesn’t have to be revealed just how far the US is in debt to the Chinese government (and how much further it’s getting).

    Yup, that should get him some support from those who otherwise wouldn’t want the former head of the “hated aggressor” from ruling the UN and the world. Good job, Barry.

  22. Scary stuff. Somehow you let a green-left globalist into the Whitehouse. We did the same with our Lodge. Can we both learn from the mistake? I hope so.

  23. It is indeed scary. Too many people are asleep on this issue. However, I am inclined to think they’ll wake up in 2015 when they open their utility bills.

    Those with their eyes open can look at the futures market to see what’s expected to happen in 2015.

    “This year, the auction procured 164,561 megawatts of capacity at $136 per megawatt for 2015-2016 in the area that includes Chicago — a megawatt can power 800 to 1,000 homes. That compares to $16 per megawatt consumers will be paying as of June 1 this year…”

    http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-05-18/business/chi-electric-rates-going-up-in-2015-20120518_1_electric-rates-electric-grid-capacity-payments

    The poor sods who can’t afford to heat their homes will be crying out for some more global warming.

  24. WOW, this is a big one, but the news medai looks the other way!!!!

    Now it appears to be, “Hide the UN-Reliability!!!”

  25. James Sexton says:
    May 22, 2012 at 8:55 pm
    “I’d like to take a moment to reflect on a bunch of pinheads who frequent here. Every time someone mentions politics they like to jump and harp that this is about science and that politics shouldn’t be brought up. Well, we see how vacant that was. Thanks to all of them who contributed such a weak and garbled message to the public that we have to endure this nonsense. Dolts.”

    James,
    Amen. We have lots of folks preaching tolerance. Unfortunately, what you tolerate is what you get more of! Slipshod science, used to drive political agendas in the name of cleaning up the environment, was tolerated in the 70s and 80s. Look where we are now?!

    An unvetted presidential candidate, espousing socialist dogma, rode a carefully cultured guilt reflex in the electorate to the White House. We were tolerant, to the very brink of breathtaking national stupidity and bankruptcy. Look where we are now?!

    The November elections are a scant 6 months from now. Prepare to change this country for the better! Prepare like the very existence of our country depends on it.
    MtK

  26. I would say that nothing shocks me anymore- almost nothing.
    This does not shock me.
    This is the type of thing that one has come to expect.

    How much further can this sort of action escalate before it is a “problem”?

  27. if there isn’t a crisis then there is no need for change.
    if allowed to continue I predict a call for nationalization of the energy sector because “free market has failed” “fat cats are taking to much” “profiteering” “the average man can no longer afford” “greedy corporations” pretty much insert any quote said about health care and insurance companies. History will repeat.

  28. I heard it said once that an American president with no war to fight was the most dangerous thing that could happen to the United States.

    I’m starting to get it.

  29. Follow the Money says:
    May 22, 2012 at 9:28 pm
    “…”
    ___________________
    Parts of part of us may want to agree with you.
    Unthinkable realities require bold thought and action to insure paridigm shift.
    Back up your words.
    Examples of the failure of persons to accept the reality of their situation are legion.
    Tell us…
    s’il vous plait.

  30. Ted says: May 22, 2012 at 7:58 pm

    “…This is a war between a strong and recovering US…”

    Guess again.

  31. The Holy Inquisition is alive and well in the USA just as it is here in Australia.
    When we pronounce “truth”, you have not the right to question our decree.

  32. Obama should write another book: Broken dreams of your children

    My goodness, and I thought only the EUSSR was going down the drain.
    Well, at least you can vote him out. In the EUSSR we can’t. How clever.

  33. re:
    jim says:
    May 22, 2012 at 6:39 pm
    Sort of makes one think Obama is taking the first steps towards DE-industrialization of our economy. Is this his great leap forward?
    and Werner Brozek says:
    May 22, 2012 at 7:05 pm
    Is this an obomination?

    Would this then be the desolation of the obama nation?
    (cf abomination of the desolation)

  34. As an Australian I was always impressed by your rights to bear arms, and your right to march on washington with arms to change the government if it became necessary. Your president usurped that right by giving him total control over all state militias with his fanangling. One more term of this man it will not just be your electricity prices, you will have the worst form of dictatorship.

    The type that is making your life hell supposedly for your own good, for they believe that they are right and only they know the way forward, and everyone must comply. The novel 1984 is their way forward, it is an instruction manual. I can only say to all you Yanks who care, forget PC and stop pussy footing, the freedom of the world depends on you.

  35. Could be a good time to begin investing in Horses and oil lamps chaps. The sort I used to see in American movies in the 50′s.
    The “feds” who are entrusted with the security and safety of the people who pay them seem to be running a different agenda.
    May the force be with you. Same here in the UK

  36. So, fund an agency hoping they become reliant on government money then remove their funding. Seems like an easy way to kill an organization. — John M Reynolds

  37. I’ve been telling a close friend (who said ‘lets give him (obama) a chance’) that blackout are coming his way. He doesn’t see it. But it does look like his Oh! Bummer! moment is coming…

  38. If the US, EU, UK and Oz dick-potatorships (Sorry attempt at comedy in an otherwise depressingly over governed society) keep going this way the only answer for Joe public will be coal heating for their houses in winter.

  39. Hats off to the poster repotting the forward PJM capacity markets. Here’s more:

    Most of the coal plants meriting replacement will be done so with natural gas. New shale gas resource and last year’s soft winter have left the market with prices @$2.00/mcf. Bad news is that it takes about $5 gas to break even on recovery, hence Marcellus exploration has ground to a halt in the new plays. All of which means that the gas price, notorious for its price volatility will soon come roaring back with this new demand and normal weather.

    With public policy (read permitting) favoring only gas and renewables we will find ourselves in an increasingly unstable generation supply condition.

    Seasoned veterans understand the risk.

    Of course, there is always hope (and change).

  40. In reference to those comments regarding the potential outcome of certain political agenda’s, there are ultimately only 2 options for citizens. Personally I prefer the ballot box, but in deference to the ‘precautionary principle’ the wise man will follow the Scout motto: “Be Prepared”.

  41. Mark and two Cats says:
    May 22, 2012 at 9:13 pm

    The president of the United States is an enemy of the United States.”

    Just as the Prime Minister of Australia is an enemy of Australia.

  42. Tom J says on May 22, 2012 at 6:48 pm:

    Classic Obama. If an organization does a good job, well then, put a stop to it. This is what an incompetent dufus does when he’s been promoted to his level of incompetence. Rest assured, Barry’s been promoted waaaay, waaaaay, waaaaaaaay past his level of incompetence. …

    Perhaps one of the finer living examples (an exemplification) of “The Peter Principle”

    “employees tend to rise to their level of incompetence.”

    Our whole ‘merit-based’ federal gov’t employment system exemplifies Peter’s Corollary which states:

    “[i]n time, every post tends to be occupied by an employee who is incompetent to carry out its duties” and adds that “work is accomplished by those employees who have not yet reached their level of incompetence.

    Somewhere on-premises I’ve got an ‘early-issue’ paperback circa ’70′s of The Peter Principle …

    .

  43. Ordinary people have a simple choice: join the lunatics in the asylum … join their madness … or fight against their lunacy.

    People have to stop pretending that this madness will ever stop until they have either taken over every government and non-governmental institution or until the economy is bankrupt from their insanity … or father nature starts cooling down.

  44. This is why Obama needs to be unelected. (one of several reasons)

    To make the American people accept the “smart grid” that can regulate when and how much electricity you can use, there first has to be a shortage of electricity. Since we have enough coal and natural gas to run the grid for a couple of centuries, the shortage will have to be induced. I’m not a conspiracy theorist, but at some point you start to wonder…

  45. I really don’t understand why so many of the world’s leading economic powers are collectively attempting to commit industrial suicide. Have they all forgotten that they are supposed to be putting the interests of their own countries before all others? Which involves looking at all side of a debate before coming up with econonically crippling policies, not just blindly accepting what a bunch of advocates are parroting and backing up with junk science.

    I can’t help but feel there is more to this whole thing, over and above a carbon gravy train, than meets the eye…

  46. The combination of Chicago thugocrats and Obama’s immature reactionary leadership is not a good one.

  47. patvann says on May 22, 2012 at 8:55 pm:

    Last week PJM Interconnection, the company that operates the electric grid for 13 states (Delaware, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Maryland, Michigan, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Virginia, West Virginia and the District of Columbia) …

    patvann, only parts of some of those “13 states” area operated by PJM; breaking it down it is more like PJM has a partial presence in 5 of those states with full to nearly full presence in 8 the reaming ones.

    See map here showing PJM area only: http://pjm.com/about-pjm/how-we-operate/territory-served.aspx

    Aside from PJM, the MISO (Midwest Independent System Operator) operates in those states where PJM has only partial presence.

    See map here showing MISO and PJM areas differentially: http://www.miso-pjm.com/

    A little more complete map showing the interconnections between ‘systems’ like PJM, MISO, SPP up in that part of the country: http://oasis.midwestiso.org/oasis/NODE/MISO

    Historically, PJM once stood for Pennsylvania, Jersey, Maryland, but has since expanded beyond those borders.

    .

  48. BigBadBear says:
    May 23, 2012 at 5:25 am

    I really don’t understand why so many of the world’s leading economic powers are collectively attempting to commit industrial suicide. Have they all forgotten that they are supposed to be putting the interests of their own countries before all others? Which involves looking at all side of a debate before coming up with econonically crippling policies, not just blindly accepting what a bunch of advocates are parroting and backing up with junk science.

    I can’t help but feel there is more to this whole thing, over and above a carbon gravy train, than meets the eye…
    *********************************************************************

    Of course there is. Unfortunately the desired end state is a utopian fantasy that generally falls under the heading of “post-national civilization” (aka Global Governance). Obama and others have not been shy about this goal.

  49. PS: to BigBadBear says:
    May 23, 2012 at 5:25 am

    Read this published in 2008 from the Army War College:

    From the New Middle Ages to a New Dark Age: The Decline of the State and U.S. Strategy

    SUMMARY

    Security and stability in the 21st century have little to do with traditional power politics, military conflict between states, and issues of grand strategy. Instead, they revolve around governance, public safety, inequality, urbanization, violent nonstate actors, and the disruptive consequences of globalization. This monograph seeks to explore the implications of these issues for the future U.S. role in the world, as well as for its military posture and strategy.

    Underlying the change from traditional geopolitics to security as a governance issue is the long-term decline of the state. Despite state resilience, this trend could prove unstoppable. If so, it will be essential to replace dominant state-centric perceptions and assessments (what the author terms ?stateocentrism?) with alternative judgments acknowledging the reduced role and diminished effectiveness of states. This alternative assessment has been articulated most effectively in the notion of the New Middle Ages in which the state is only one of many actors, and the forces of disorder loom large. The concept of the New Middle Ages is discussed in Section II, which suggests that global politics are now characterized by fragmented political authority, overlapping jurisdictions, no-go zones, identity politics, and contested property rights.

    Failure to manage the forces of global disorder, however, could lead to something even more forbidding?a New Dark Age. Accordingly, Section III identifies and elucidates key developments that are not only feeding into the long-term decline of the state but seem likely to create a major crisis of governance that could tip into the chaos of a New Dark Age. Particular attention is given to the inability of states to meet the needs of their citizens, the persistence of alternative loyalties, the rise of transnational actors, urbanization and the emergence of alternatively governed spaces, and porous borders. These factors are likely to interact in ways that could lead to an abrupt, nonlinear shift from the New Middle Ages to the New Dark Age. This will be characterized by the spread of disorder from the zone of weak states and feral cities in the developing world to the countries of the developed world. When one adds the strains coming from global warming and environmental degradation, the diminution of cheaply available natural resources, and the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction, the challenges will be formidable and perhaps overwhelming.

    http://www.strategicstudiesinstitute.army.mil/pubs/display.cfm?PubID=867

  50. So at what point does Obama initiate 5 year plans and collectivization and institutes for Proletariat Science?

  51. jim says: May 22, 2012 at 6:39 pm

    Sort of makes one think Obama is taking the first steps towards DE-industrialization of our economy.

    I believe de-industriliaztion of the US has been going on for decades.

  52. It is notable that the things Americans complain about here often sound familiar to us in the UK. We too have a leader who seems to have a suicidal obsession with ‘green energy’ in the face of a looming energy crisis – to be averted by banning filament light bulbs apparently. The difference is that our PM claims to be a ‘Conservative’. Not long ago the PM was banging on about how legalizing ‘gay marriage’ was a top priority for him, despite the fact that – as the press pointed out – there was no particular public clamour for it and there are perhaps more pressing priorities for an EU leader at the moment. Then I hear Obama say the same thing. What’s going on? Have they been reading the same book? ‘Governance for Dummies’ perhaps?

  53. This report that NERC put out about FERC’s efficiency rules creating reliability problems may be the first remotely useful thing they’ve ever done.

    I’m an electric utility engineer. The causes of reliability problems are not addressed in any way by NERC audits. The primary cause is the regulated private monopoly structure. It incentivizes for-profit utilities to let their system fail. Maintenance is a 100% cost-recoverable expense. Replacing failed equipment is a capital project that you can use to justify rate increases and take a profit against.

    All NERC audits do is check to see if you’re aware that your equipment is failing. They don’t force you to do anything useful with that information.

  54. Sean says:
    May 22, 2012 at 9:04 pm (Edit)
    “2016″ – The Must See Movie Coming This Summer

    ————————————————–

    Sorry man , but I get a broken link when I try the video.

    These guys, and we have all met a lot of them, think that they have a better grip than the professionals . They are able to put across a message that they are competent and better than the incumbents. To these guys, and the very silly people who vote for them, what we do seems easy and simple. That’s our fault but it is still a fact that they will break many things that have worked well for a long time. Things that took wit, will and treasure to build which have served society well and largely seamlessly. Water, sewage, public health, electricity, transport,food. All the things we need for survival and a reasonable standard of living.

    That is the tragedy ,competence and diligence have been devalued by their own success. This ruling talking class convinces weak minds that we can relax more, earn more and borrow more to live the dream. It is done by taxing and charging more at the richer end of society, usually in modest numbers and giving more to the poorer end where the votes are for sale . The money always runs out but the perpetrators are long gone by then.

    You cannot punish success and reward failure no matter how “fair” you think that makes you.

  55. This is some of the promised “fundamental change” and fits with the promise of “energy costs will necessarily sky-rocket.” No one should be surprised by these stories.
    These promises were delivered before the last Presidential election. Still a majority of Americans voted FOR this radical agenda.
    I wish the impending brownouts affect only blue states and DC.

  56. My take on this is, the Obama admin want’s the NERC to stop with the reliability reports until after the elections.

  57. BigBadBear says:
    May 23, 2012 at 5:25 am
    …..
    I can’t help but feel there is more to this whole thing, over and above a carbon gravy train, than meets the eye…
    *********************************************************************

    Why isn’t greed a big enough motive? The people involved in the gravy train stand to make mucho bucks at the expense of everyone else, so the simplest explanation is the best for most people involved.

    However, as Curious George says, some of the people involved are obviously trying to de-industrialize at the same time due to their beliefs. Its important though to keep motives straight. For most people involved, the greed factor is what carries them on to being green. Until people stand up to this corporate hijacking and use their pocket-books to go after “green corporations” filling their snouts at the taxpayer troughs, what is to stop them?

    Warren Buffet, GE, and others come to mind first. But there are many others and the gravy train goes a long way. These people are just greedy. Nothing less, nothing more. If you start boycotting and otherwise cause harm to their business where you can, you will make a difference and the companies will either change and become competitive again, or they will die out like most people involved in ponzi schemes when the money runs out.

    Its all about the dollars and cents for the companies, so make them pay where you can and educate yourself on where to hurt these companies. Tell everyone the truth and more then anything list the bad things about these companies. If you follow the money trail it leads straight to Government hand-outs and the cronies themselves.

    That, and yea voting Mr. “death to coal” out of office. Being president is where you stop being a brain-dead activist and start thinking about the consequences of your actions. And taking responsibility for ones actions.

  58. Sean says (May 22, 2012 at 9:04 pm): ‘“2016″ – The Must See Movie Coming This Summer’

    Thanks, Sean, I wasn’t aware of the film. Link didn’t work, but I found it here:

    I don’t know if Obama is a rabid “anti-colonialist” or not, but I must say his actions are certainly consistent with such a world view.

    Tom J says (May 22, 2012 at 6:48 pm): “Rest assured, Barry’s been promoted waaaay, waaaaay, waaaaaaaay past his level of incompetence.”

    I submit that the problem is actually in the US electorate. Any country that would vote “Carter 2.0″ into office is currently living way above its level of incompetence. If we keep voting like we have been, our living standards will decline–deservedly–to the third world level we seem to prize so highly.

  59. It might have something to do with this:

    Obama’s war on coal hits your electric bill

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/05/22/obamas-war-on-coal-hits-your-electric-bill/print#ixzz1vixjk6Jl

    Last week the U.S. Energy Information Administration reported a shocking drop in power sector coal consumption in the first quarter of 2012. Coal-fired power plants are now generating just 36 percent of U.S. electricity, versus 44.6 percent just one year ago.

    As long as natural gas stays cheaper we are ok but we all may be sitting in the dark if too many coal plants drop off at once this summer IF there are no natural gas fired replacements off setting the furloughs of coal plants still in the pipeline. btw- any GDP activity due to this regulatory driven change over on power plant replacement is essentially a faux economics version of the Broken Windows Fallacy. Retiring perfectly good electrical generating plants is NOT investing in the future but mal-investment of limited capital which diverts from more productive investments and as a consequence DECREASES job creation.

    I foresee major productivity increases in the electric utility generation sector… Natural gas driven combustion turbines require LESS people to operate them than a coal fired steam driven turbine plant, so this is a (union) jobs killer.

    One can only hope there are enough orders from foreign coal buyers to off set this massive drop in coal consumption because a lot of (union) miners are going to lose their jobs otherwise. What is the UMW saying about this? Somehow I don’t see an endorsement from them for Obama.

  60. There’s more to the implications than just this. After the August 2003 NE North American grid collapse, the US and Canada agreed to a series of measures to ensure grid stability on both sides of the border, in particular those provinces and states that surround the Great Lakes. It should be remembered that this event was caused by the overload and collapse of a number of First Energy transmission lines in Ohio.

    For the US, NERC was integral to providing data to both countries on US performance with respect to grid stability.

    So, among many other implicaitons, Obama is also violation of an international agreement. But then after all the shabby treatment from this administration, i.e, Keystone, Canadians really don’t expect anything better.

  61. What y’all have forgotten is they just want us to have to get used to using power when its available. When it’s not, why that just saves wear and tear on the environment.

  62. My fear is that enough damage has already been done, or delayed consequences are already baked into the cake, that even if a competent opponent wins the next election he will be inheriting a booby trapped economy.

    The resulting consequences will be blamed on the replacement not the morons that instituted the process of kicking the props out from under the economy and the current administration, their friends and the media will blame the failure on the replacement administration. Given their skill at propaganda they likely could convince enough useful idiots to vote the same agenda back into place in 4 years and in the process destroy the credibility of those who understand the problem and are trying to fix it for a generation.

    The key to preventing that outcome is to break the monopoly of silence in the mainstream media and get the true state of affairs and who is to blame out in public view so it cannot be hidden in political spin to a generally unsophisticated and poorly educated electorate who have been conditioned to view media spin uncritically. Not only vote with your wallet regarding all the folks skimming the hand outs but we need to slap the media up side the head some how to get them back to proper investigative reporting. Where, who is the 21′st century’s Edward R. Murrow who will insist on good journalism?

    Larry

  63. Obama is just carrying out the spirit of Agenda 21 from the Rio Conference which was headed by Maurice Strong. “We may get to the point where the only way of saving the world will be for industrial civilization to collapse…isn’t it our job to bring that about” Maurice Strong. Obama is a believer.

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